[libreoffice-users] Re: spadmin fails to run

2012-08-30 Thread rcdawson
On Thursday, August 30, 2012 09:00:40 AM you wrote:

Hi :) 
Do we know if this problem has been solved yet?  Has the OP been in contact? 
Regards from 
Tom :)  

This problem hasn't been solved, but I did find a work-around.  The problem I 
was trying to address with spadmin was to change the default printing language 
from pdf to postscript.  I didn't think reading the man page was going to 
solve my problem, so I didn't persue that possibility.  Instead, I have just 
created templates with the postcript as the default.  That seems to work.
It would be nice to know why spadmin doesn't run, however.

Richard






> 
> From: Felmon Davis <[hidden email]> 
>To: Tom <[hidden email]> 
>Cc: [hidden email] 
>Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2012, 18:03 
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spadmin fails to run 
> 
>On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Tom wrote: 
> 
>> Hi :) 
>> Sorry for the late response! 
>> 
>> An 'obvious' way to get a little bit more information about any unix-based 
>> command is to add the tag "-h" or "--help" after the command.  In this case 
>> it would be something like: 
>> 
>> spadmin -h 
>> 
>> or 
>> 
>> spadmin --help 
>> 
>> It's just a quick-help, "cheat sheet".  There is a lot more info in the 
>> manual which you can access using the "man" command (seems a little sexist 
>> but it's really just short for manual).  So, try 
>> 
>> man spadmin 
> 
>my understanding is that the OP (you have deleted the original post) wasn't 
getting it to run at all. 
> 
>he had a funny sign in front of the command which I thought might be an 
artifact produced by his email. he should be sure to invoke the command as 
> 
>./spadmin 
> 
>assuming he is in the same directory or give the whole path (without the 
leading dot). 
> 
>> Hmmm, i don't have spadmin installed on my machine so i got nothing from 
>> either of those commands. 
> 
>I have it but it seems to belong to openoffice in my case (on this machine) 
>and 
seems to require 'sudo' to invoke it as it's owned by root. 
> 
>> Regards from 
>> Tom :) 
> 
>regards to you too! 
> 
>F. 
> 
>-- Felmon Davis 
> 
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Johann von Goethe 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] help exporting to macromedia flash

2012-08-30 Thread Jerry Geis


On 08/30/2012 05:14 PM, anne-ology wrote:

   Following the steps I outlined should work;
  the other options have been flawed since OO so use the 'send 
to e-mail' then copy attachment, save this to your machine then close 
the e-program.




I tried the 'send-to-email' and evolution is not installed so thats not 
working either.
Additionally I want to batch these processes in the end, I was just 
trying to get something that works.


I also just tried this:
soffice -headless -convert-to swf animation.ppt

While that converts it, I have to click on the screen to get it to advance.
How can I get past that?
I have auto transiltion in 5 seconds set.

Jerry


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

2012-08-30 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

It all seems so difficult..

If you have a write document, run this macro and remove ALL graphic objects

Sub RemoveAllGraphics
  Dim i As Integer
  Dim oGraphic

  If ThisComponent.GraphicObjects.getCount() = 0 Then
Exit Sub
  End If

  For i = ThisComponent.GraphicObjects.getCount() - 1 To 0 Step -1
oGraphic = ThisComponent.GraphicObjects.getByIndex(i)
oGraphic.Dispose()
  Next
End Sub



On 08/30/2012 08:26 AM, timecode wrote:

Hey Tom!

Thanks for that dirty trick! :-) But unfortunately it didn't work. I made a
http://i47.tinypic.com/2ldimig.png screenshot  of the contents of the
zip-file. The images remain even after deleting the "Thumbnails" folder and
a folder named "images"in the Configurations2 directory.

This  http://i49.tinypic.com/6e3ouu.png screenshot  here shows what I'm
trying to get rid of: the pesky arrow images.

Thanks in advance!
timecode

PS: Am I able to answer via mail or do I have to post in the forum?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Norton AntiVirus / poll

2012-08-30 Thread Anthony Easthope
I find that the best anti virus suite to use is probably avast but I
have found COMODO to be superb as well it does the job that I need it to
do and I have no problems with it!

On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, at 09:23 PM, anne-ology wrote:
>I too once used Norton - it was a great system;
> then I switched to AVG - ranked tops;
>when it slid below Avast!, I switched - it's been ranked
> tops for the last few years now and updates daily, or more often.
> 
>Let's see some poll results - who preferred what and why?; and now
> who prefers what and why?
> 
>Curiously wondering,
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:13 AM, Tom Davies 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi :)
> > Norton used to be completely awesome.  Everything they did was totally
> > amazing and extremely useful.  Then they became corporate and serious.
> >
> > Nowadays i use AVG or something else but still when a threat is publicised
> > as being particularly nasty and i suspect one of the machines i deal with
> > might have fallen foul of it i still find Symantec a good place to research
> > into it.
> >
> > One of the first jobs of a threat is to knock-out or dodge all known
> > security so any of the big and famous antivirus' is likely to useless
> > against any decent threat.  Luckily most threats are fairly trivial so even
> > the big and famous antivirus programs can probably deal with it.  If it's
> > non-trivial then there is always the option to nuke your Bios and reinstall
> > your OS.  Still now that AVG is so famous i'm starting to consider other
> > options.
> >
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 2:27
> >
> > On 08/29/2012 08:21 PM, Dan wrote:
> > > Jeff Hahn wrote:
> > >> When I try to upgrade from 3.6.0 to 3.6.1 the Norton AntiVirus program
> > >> keeps deleting the upgrade as an unsafe virus. This is the first release
> > >> that I have had this type of problem with. Jeff
> > >>
> > >
> > >  To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download
> > file?
> > >  Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the
> > upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
> > > Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO
> > update, turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you
> > reconnect to the Internet.
> > >
> > > --Dan
> > >
> >
> > This is not the first time I have heard of Norton stating valid install
> > files were viruses or other nasties.
> >
> > I never had any good luck with Norton's AV, so I use the free version of
> > Comodo product[s] for my Windows machines.  I have hooked even PC repair
> > and selling pro's to using it.
> >
> > As for not having AV running when not online, well that is not what I
> > would tell people.  An anti-virus is needed if you are offline and suddenly
> > there is a trojan or other nasty kicking in and doing a number.  They can
> > be picked up and not cleaned in a few ways other than being online.  I have
> > my Ubuntu system picking up new things from files that I have had on my
> > system for months and suddenly it detects something the AV system does not
> > like.  If I did not have the AV system on 24/7, then those issues might not
> > have been picked up.  The real thing is that the AV systems update their
> > data systems, mostly, after a new "nasty" has been detected.  If your
> > system has that "nasty" on it before that nasty has been added to your AV
> > data system, then you will need to have the other parts of the AV and
> > security system[s] on to detect the traces of it trying to work.  SO do not
> > turn your computer security off.
> >
> > I have had to deal with too many systems from friends and clients where
> > they did not have their security on 24/7 and kept up-to-date.  Had one
> > system that the AV was on but not updated in over 2 years and the guy lost
> > a lot.
> >
> >
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Sun dll shlxthdl and windows explorer.exe crash

2012-08-30 Thread V Stuart Foote
Probably related to the LibreOffice's Windows Explorer extension

Most issues fixed with 3.6.1 build.

Ref these bugzilla reports: 

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52078
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53533

Install a current Java JRE and LO 3.6.1 and should resolve.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: What is the status of Java security vs. LibreOffice?

2012-08-30 Thread NoOp
On 08/30/2012 11:14 AM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I saw this a few days ago, I'd like to know what should I make of
> it?: 
> http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/08/critical-flaw-under-active-attack-prompts-calls-to-disable-java/
>
>  I never install Java when I install LibreOffice, but a few people
> end up installing it.
> 
> I have seen a few threads about it in the fr-discuss list, but
> nothing clear/concise (although I may have missed a post or two).
...

Update to Java 7u7:



and as an FYI, openjdk-6, openjdk-7 *are* vulnerable according to this:




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[libreoffice-users] Sun dll shlxthdl and windows explorer.exe crash

2012-08-30 Thread Heikki Jussila
Hi,

Today something strange happend to me. All of the sudden explorer.exe di
Windows (in VISTA) started to crash in an intervall of approximately 20
seconds.

I finally found out that the reason was a crash of shlxthdl.dll of Sun
Microsystems, which I found from the program directories of LO 3.6

However, the funny or problematic issue was that this crash occured only on
my main user profile and not on the other profile that I had on this
machine, even changing the user to (normal) did not help. I made new clean
profiles.

This issue came after I had updated from 3.5.5 to 3.6 version (3.6.0.104 to
be exact at least according to the SUN dll). The problem continued also
sporadically in new profiles (especially with the one with admin rights). I
finally had to uninstall LO 3.6 (and the leftovers of 3.5) and the problems
have now gone away.

I wonder what could be the reason for this since LO did not start at boot
time so it could not have been that, and was not used at the time. Could it
be that LO needs JAVA for some operations and those run in anycase?

I did have JAVA at the time of first install of LO 3.3 something, but I
uninstalled it and did not have any problems with versions prior to 3.6.

Heikki Jussila

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1

2012-08-30 Thread anne-ology
   so I'm using both 32 & 64 on this machine ???

   ok, I believe you;
now just another question -
could this be the reason for so many bugs? -
   [seems as if this list has been listing quite a few
recently, some I've never even seen  ???]



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Dan  wrote:

 I believe that Tom and I were talking about LibreOffice on Windows. I
> have a 64 bit computer which had VISTA running until I replace that with
> Ubuntu. But LO does not have a 64 bit LO version which I thought was the
> train of thought.
>
> --Dan
>
> anne-ology wrote:
>
>> You've been mis-informed - WIN does have 64.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Dan >
>>   As far as I know, only Windows does not have a 64 bit version.
>> Linux has 64 bit version for both DEB and RPM. The following is the
>> folder containing the installation files for LO 3.6.1.2 The Java I use
>> is also 64 bit that I get from the Ubuntu Repository (OpenJDK Java 6)
>> with all the patches.
>>
>> LibO_3.6.1.2_Linux_x86-64___**install-deb_en-US
>>
>>
>> --Dan
>>
>>
>> Tom Davies wrote:
>>
>> Hi :)
>> LibreOffice doesn't have a 64bit version and allegedly needs java
>> to be 32 bit too.
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Peter Hillier-Brook > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1
>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org > libreoffice.org >
>>
>> Date: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012, 22:05
>>
>> On 29/08/12 18:50, Tom Davies wrote:
>>
>> Hi :) Errr, on the 64bit Ubuntu is the java also 64bit?  If
>> it is
>> then can you try installing a 32 bit version of 1.6_32?  LO
>> can be
>> told which version of java to use so it might work Tools -
>> Options -
>> Java Regards from Tom :)
>>
>>
>> That sounds like Windows solution! :-)
>>
>> Peter HB
>>
>>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] help exporting to macromedia flash

2012-08-30 Thread anne-ology
   Following the steps I outlined should work;
  the other options have been flawed since OO so use the 'send to
e-mail' then copy attachment, save this to your machine then close the
e-program.



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Jerry Geis  wrote:


> On 08/30/2012 04:13 PM, anne-ology wrote:
>
>>Are you referring to Impress?; if so, then when you finish making
>> the document (as I assume you have) click on the file tab (where you go to
>> save your document) then below that option is the option to send to
>> [various options]; click on the option you desire -
>> the only one I've found to work without flaws is to send to
>> e-mail; this will open up an e-mail program with your file attached - just
>> copy that attachment and save it to your machine's folder the close the
>> opened e-mail program.
>>
>>Hoping this helps,
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Jerry Geis > ge...@pagestation.com>**> wrote:
>>
>> I am using libreoffice 3.4.5 on linux x86-64
>>
>> I am wishing to export a simple PPT to macromedia flash.
>> All I ever see is the first slide of the PPT,
>> the PPT plays fine in auto advances and all that.
>>
>> Am i not doing something right? how do I get it to output
>> all slides and not just the first?
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>>  Yes - I am referring to Impress.
>
> That is what  I did, File, Export, select Macromedia Flash, enter my
> filename, do save, it shows a progress bar like it's doing it, I get a
> file,  - but when I play the file it is ONLY one slide. It never moves
> nothing. My slides are auto advancing at 10 seconds, I have tried 2 - 10
> seconds. All the same. Never advances ot the next slide.
>
> Should would like to have this work??? Am I doing something wrong ?
> Thanks,
>
> Jerry
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1

2012-08-30 Thread Dan
 I believe that Tom and I were talking about LibreOffice on Windows. I 
have a 64 bit computer which had VISTA running until I replace that with 
Ubuntu. But LO does not have a 64 bit LO version which I thought was the 
train of thought.


--Dan

anne-ology wrote:

You've been mis-informed - WIN does have 64.



On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Dan mailto:elderdanle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

  As far as I know, only Windows does not have a 64 bit version.
Linux has 64 bit version for both DEB and RPM. The following is the
folder containing the installation files for LO 3.6.1.2 The Java I use
is also 64 bit that I get from the Ubuntu Repository (OpenJDK Java 6)
with all the patches.

LibO_3.6.1.2_Linux_x86-64___install-deb_en-US

--Dan


Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
LibreOffice doesn't have a 64bit version and allegedly needs java
to be 32 bit too.
Regards from
Tom :)




From: Peter Hillier-Brook mailto:p...@hbsys.plus.com>>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Date: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012, 22:05

On 29/08/12 18:50, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :) Errr, on the 64bit Ubuntu is the java also 64bit?  If it is
then can you try installing a 32 bit version of 1.6_32?  LO can be
told which version of java to use so it might work Tools -
Options -
Java Regards from Tom :)


That sounds like Windows solution! :-)

Peter HB




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Re: [libreoffice-users] help exporting to macromedia flash

2012-08-30 Thread Jerry Geis


On 08/30/2012 04:13 PM, anne-ology wrote:
   Are you referring to Impress?; if so, then when you finish 
making the document (as I assume you have) click on the file tab 
(where you go to save your document) then below that option is the 
option to send to [various options]; click on the option you desire -
the only one I've found to work without flaws is to send 
to e-mail; this will open up an e-mail program with your file attached 
- just copy that attachment and save it to your machine's folder the 
close the opened e-mail program.


   Hoping this helps,



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Jerry Geis > wrote:


I am using libreoffice 3.4.5 on linux x86-64

I am wishing to export a simple PPT to macromedia flash.
All I ever see is the first slide of the PPT,
the PPT plays fine in auto advances and all that.

Am i not doing something right? how do I get it to output
all slides and not just the first?

Jerry



Yes - I am refering to Impress.

That is what  I did, File, Export, select Macromedia Flash, enter my 
filename, do save, it shows a progress bar likes it doing it, I get a 
file,  - but when I play the file it is ONLY one slide. It never moves 
nothing. My slides are auto advancing at 10 seconds, I have tried 2 - 10 
seconds. All the same. Never advances ot the next slide.


Should would like to have this work??? Am I doing something wrong ?
Thanks,

Jerry

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[libreoffice-users] 3.6.1 dictionary installs (.deb) fail & bork dpkg/apt-get

2012-08-30 Thread NoOp
Yesterday in the 'Update to 3.6.1' thread I installed 3.6.1 (debian
files) on 32bit and 64bit systems. Both experienced installations errors:


Errors were encountered while processing:
 libreoffice3.6-dict-en_3.6.1.2-2_amd64.deb
 libreoffice3.6-dict-es_3.6.1.2-2_amd64.deb
 libreoffice3.6-dict-fr_3.6.1.2-2_amd64.deb
(and on 32bit deb as well).

To make things worse, when attempting to update an Opera browser today I
found out that the above were completely broken & couldn't be purged in
any normal fashion. Went searching and came across this bug reports:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54202 - open
[Error while installing Dutch Linux Deb (x64) main installer with
command dpkg -i *]
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41290 - closed as dupe of 41237
[dictionaries do not install in daily builds as of 28/9/2011]
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41237 - closed
[Installation of dictionaries failed with
""/singletons/com.sun.star.deployment.ExtensionManager": loading
component library failed""]

I was finally able to clean my systems (see:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54202#c3 ), but still have
not been able to install the dictionaries. I may have found the problem:


$ debdiff libreoffice3.6-dict-en_3.6.0.4-104_i386.deb
libreoffice3.6-dict-en_3.6.1.2-2_i386.deb
[The following lists of changes regard files as different if they have
different names, permissions or owners.]

Files in first .deb but not in second
-
-rwxr-xr-x  root/root   DEBIAN/postinst
-rwxr-xr-x  root/root   DEBIAN/postrm

Control files: lines which differ (wdiff format)

Installed-Size: [-26208-] {+26224+}
Version: [-3.6.0.4-104-] {+3.6.1.2-2+}

Has anyone else experience the same issue with the .deb install?




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1

2012-08-30 Thread anne-ology
   You've been mis-informed - WIN does have 64.



On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Dan  wrote:

 As far as I know, only Windows does not have a 64 bit version. Linux
> has 64 bit version for both DEB and RPM. The following is the folder
> containing the installation files for LO 3.6.1.2 The Java I use is also 64
> bit that I get from the Ubuntu Repository (OpenJDK Java 6) with all the
> patches.
>
> LibO_3.6.1.2_Linux_x86-64_**install-deb_en-US
>
> --Dan
>
>
> Tom Davies wrote:
>
>> Hi :)
>> LibreOffice doesn't have a 64bit version and allegedly needs java to be
>> 32 bit too.
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Peter Hillier-Brook 
>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1
>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>> Date: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012, 22:05
>>
>> On 29/08/12 18:50, Tom Davies wrote:
>>
>>> Hi :) Errr, on the 64bit Ubuntu is the java also 64bit?  If it is
>>> then can you try installing a 32 bit version of 1.6_32?  LO can be
>>> told which version of java to use so it might work Tools - Options -
>>> Java Regards from Tom :)
>>>
>>
>> That sounds like Windows solution! :-)
>>
>> Peter HB
>>
>>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] help exporting to macromedia flash

2012-08-30 Thread anne-ology
   Are you referring to Impress?; if so, then when you finish making
the document (as I assume you have) click on the file tab (where you go to
save your document) then below that option is the option to send to
[various options]; click on the option you desire -
the only one I've found to work without flaws is to send to
e-mail; this will open up an e-mail program with your file attached - just
copy that attachment and save it to your machine's folder the close the
opened e-mail program.

   Hoping this helps,



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Jerry Geis  wrote:

I am using libreoffice 3.4.5 on linux x86-64
>
> I am wishing to export a simple PPT to macromedia flash.
> All I ever see is the first slide of the PPT,
> the PPT plays fine in auto advances and all that.
>
> Am i not doing something right? how do I get it to output
> all slides and not just the first?
>
> Jerry
>

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Update to 3.6.1

2012-08-30 Thread NoOp
On 08/29/2012 01:19 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
> 
> @Dan: I moved /libreoffice3.6/share/extensions to
> /libreoffice3.6/share/extensions_bak and did another install. Same errors:
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  libreoffice3.6-dict-en_3.6.1.2-2_amd64.deb
>  libreoffice3.6-dict-es_3.6.1.2-2_amd64.deb
>  libreoffice3.6-dict-fr_3.6.1.2-2_amd64.deb
> (and on 32bit deb as well).
> 
> I'll test by removing 3.6 completely.

Did that & still encountered the errors. Seems that this is an regression:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54202
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41290
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41237




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Norton AntiVirus / poll

2012-08-30 Thread anne-ology
   I too once used Norton - it was a great system;
then I switched to AVG - ranked tops;
   when it slid below Avast!, I switched - it's been ranked
tops for the last few years now and updates daily, or more often.

   Let's see some poll results - who preferred what and why?; and now
who prefers what and why?

   Curiously wondering,



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:13 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:

Hi :)
> Norton used to be completely awesome.  Everything they did was totally
> amazing and extremely useful.  Then they became corporate and serious.
>
> Nowadays i use AVG or something else but still when a threat is publicised
> as being particularly nasty and i suspect one of the machines i deal with
> might have fallen foul of it i still find Symantec a good place to research
> into it.
>
> One of the first jobs of a threat is to knock-out or dodge all known
> security so any of the big and famous antivirus' is likely to useless
> against any decent threat.  Luckily most threats are fairly trivial so even
> the big and famous antivirus programs can probably deal with it.  If it's
> non-trivial then there is always the option to nuke your Bios and reinstall
> your OS.  Still now that AVG is so famous i'm starting to consider other
> options.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
> From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 2:27
>
> On 08/29/2012 08:21 PM, Dan wrote:
> > Jeff Hahn wrote:
> >> When I try to upgrade from 3.6.0 to 3.6.1 the Norton AntiVirus program
> >> keeps deleting the upgrade as an unsafe virus. This is the first release
> >> that I have had this type of problem with. Jeff
> >>
> >
> >  To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download
> file?
> >  Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the
> upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
> > Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO
> update, turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you
> reconnect to the Internet.
> >
> > --Dan
> >
>
> This is not the first time I have heard of Norton stating valid install
> files were viruses or other nasties.
>
> I never had any good luck with Norton's AV, so I use the free version of
> Comodo product[s] for my Windows machines.  I have hooked even PC repair
> and selling pro's to using it.
>
> As for not having AV running when not online, well that is not what I
> would tell people.  An anti-virus is needed if you are offline and suddenly
> there is a trojan or other nasty kicking in and doing a number.  They can
> be picked up and not cleaned in a few ways other than being online.  I have
> my Ubuntu system picking up new things from files that I have had on my
> system for months and suddenly it detects something the AV system does not
> like.  If I did not have the AV system on 24/7, then those issues might not
> have been picked up.  The real thing is that the AV systems update their
> data systems, mostly, after a new "nasty" has been detected.  If your
> system has that "nasty" on it before that nasty has been added to your AV
> data system, then you will need to have the other parts of the AV and
> security system[s] on to detect the traces of it trying to work.  SO do not
> turn your computer security off.
>
> I have had to deal with too many systems from friends and clients where
> they did not have their security on 24/7 and kept up-to-date.  Had one
> system that the AV was on but not updated in over 2 years and the guy lost
> a lot.
>
>

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[libreoffice-users] help exporting to macromedia flash

2012-08-30 Thread Jerry Geis

I am using libreoffice 3.4.5 on linux x86-64

I am wishing to export a simple PPT to macromedia flash.
All I ever see is the first slide of the PPT,
the PPT plays fine in auto advances and all that.

Am i not doing something right? how do I get it to output
all slides and not just the first?

Jerry

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread anne-ology
   [image: Inline image 1] yes, and I think you've just described the
'Gates' fiasco'  [image: Inline image 2]



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:

Hi :)
> I vaguely remember Norton updated their virus-definitions on Thursdays so
> i would schedule a look-for-updates for Fridays.  Of course MS do their
> updates on Tuesdays (="Patch Tuesday") so Norton/Symantec might have
> changed in the last decade or so.
>
> Of course if either find a particularly nasty problem then they do
> sometimes push patches or whatever out on a different day but it's fairly
> rare.  Of course an ISP might delay updates for a day or 2 so your machine
> might regularly get them a day or few later but i think by being regular MS
> and others have given ISPs a chance of knowing when they might get spikes
> so that those can be planned for easily.
>
> I still don't get why Windows doesn't have a package-manager that just
> updates everything all in one go instead of each different program being
> forced to set-up it's own separate method of keeping things up to date.
> Also i never had/have confidence in any machine having fully updated
> drivers and codecs and everything.  Windows appears to be carefully built
> to be insecure.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> From: Dan 
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 3:14
>
> webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
> > On 08/29/2012 08:21 PM, Dan wrote:
> >> Jeff Hahn wrote:
> >>> When I try to upgrade from 3.6.0 to 3.6.1 the Norton AntiVirus program
> >>> keeps deleting the upgrade as an unsafe virus. This is the first
> release
> >>> that I have had this type of problem with. Jeff
> >>>
> >>
> >>  To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download
> file?
> >>  Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the
> >> upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
> >> Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO
> update,
> >> turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you reconnect
> >> to the Internet.
> >>
> >> --Dan
> >>
> >
> > This is not the first time I have heard of Norton stating valid install
> > files were viruses or other nasties.
> >
> > I never had any good luck with Norton's AV, so I use the free version of
> > Comodo product[s] for my Windows machines.  I have hooked even PC repair
> > and selling pro's to using it.
> >
> > As for not having AV running when not online, well that is not what I
> would
> > tell people.  An anti-virus is needed if you are offline and suddenly
> there
> > is a trojan or other nasty kicking in and doing a number.  They can be
> > picked up and not cleaned in a few ways other than being online.  I have
> my
> > Ubuntu system picking up new things from files that I have had on my
> system
> > for months and suddenly it detects something the AV system does not like.
> > If I did not have the AV system on 24/7, then those issues might not have
> > been picked up.  The real thing is that the AV systems update their data
> > systems, mostly, after a new "nasty" has been detected.  If your system
> has
> > that "nasty" on it before that nasty has been added to your AV data
> system,
> > then you will need to have the other parts of the AV and security
> system[s]
> > on to detect the traces of it trying to work.  SO do not turn your
> computer
> > security off.
> >
> > I have had to deal with too many systems from friends and clients where
> > they did not have their security on 24/7 and kept up-to-date.  Had one
> > system that the AV was on but not updated in over 2 years and the guy
> lost
> > a lot.
>
>  Perhaps I was not as clear as I should have been. I listed 5 steps
> that have been posted on lists like these when installing OOo. Programs
> like Norton will give false positives that prevent installation of a
> program. So, the AV program needs to be off when the installation is being
> done. However, the AV program should NOT be turned off until AFTER the
> computer is physically disconnected from the Internet. The installation
> should be done immediately after turning off the AV. The AV should be
> turned on again right after finishing the installation. At this point,
> verification that the AV is actually working is the next step. If it is
> not, steps have to be taken to get the AV working properly before doing
> anything else. Once this is done, reconnect to the Internet. My point was
> that the computer should not be connected to the Internet until AFTER the
> person knows that the AV is already working.
>  Yes, anyone using an AV should weekly update it, sooner if there is a
> notice of an update because of a patch that is needed.
>
> --Dan
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right margin?

2012-08-30 Thread Dan

Steve Edmonds wrote:



On 31/08/12 1:48 AM, Dan wrote:

Gilles wrote:

Hello

I use H1 for the document's main title, and H2 for sub-sections.

To make H2 sections more obvious, I'd like to have the text underlined and
have the underline go all the way to the right margin instead of just the
text itself.

I vaguely remember being able to do this with Word, but can LibreOffice
Writer do this too?

Thank you.


 The User Guides for LO have what you want already. The answer is to
use styles.
 Open the Styles and Formatting window (use F11 to do this). When it
opens, right click Heading 2 and select Modify. Click the Border tab. You
want to create a bottom border by clicking below the gray square in the
User defined window. Select the thickness (width) for the line and the
color you want to use. If you have a preference as to the type of line
used, select that also. Click OK. This should do it.

--Dan

Can you not also highlight the H2 text, right click, edit paragraph style
and then set the bottom border rather than opening the styles window (less
scary for a new user).
steve


 Yes you can: it is the same dialog that opens. I have been using F11 
to open the Styles and Formatting window since OOo 1.0.3 or before. So, it 
is no longer scary. And yes, I have made quite a few errors in that time. 
But, I just change the settings back. No big deal. I have even learned to 
dock this window on the left side of the OOo, AOO, or LO window.
 They say practice makes perfect. Well, this is not completely true. 
Practicing doing something the right way will result in remarkable progress 
though.
 If you are fairly new to LO, then I would definitely recommend your 
getting the Getting Started Guide. Spend some time in the Writer chapter 
looking for things that would help you. Practice these things in some spare 
time. And if you want more detailed information, get the Writer Guide. Then 
look at specific areas you think you might need. Time then form some more 
practice. You can do similar things with the other chapters of the Getting 
Started Guide when you have time.
 I use the Styles and Formatting window extensively changing paragraph 
and character styles as needed, sometimes several times in one line of text.


--Dan


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Re: [libreoffice-users] What is the status of Java security vs. LibreOffice?

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Even though both openJRE and standard java are both run by Oracle it seems that 
openJRE tends to be a bit safer.  Possibly something to do with running it 
through a community in a more OpenSource way.  

Regards from
Tom :)  






>
> From: Mirosław Zalewski 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 19:39
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] What is the status of Java security vs. 
>LibreOffice?
> 
>On 30/08/2012 at 20:33, Jay Lozier  wrote:
>
>> I do not know if this issue affects the openJRE project.
>
>I have not tested myself, but people say it does not. Users of openJRE are 
>safe from this one.
>-- 
>Best regards
>Mirosław Zalewski
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Re: [libreoffice-users] What is the status of Java security vs. LibreOffice?

2012-08-30 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 30/08/2012 at 20:33, Jay Lozier  wrote:

> I do not know if this issue affects the openJRE project.

I have not tested myself, but people say it does not. Users of openJRE are 
safe from this one.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] What is the status of Java security vs. LibreOffice?

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It's the same old story.  


"All this has happened before and will happen again"  (any Battlestar Galactica 
fans out there?).  


Oracle tell us all that their new version of java is ultra safe and really is 
safe this time and that all their previous versions are horribly flawed and 
likely to cause widespread plagues and death etc to anyone that continues to 
use them.  Then their new "ultra safe" one is found to also have horrible flaws 
in it.  


As it happens it seems very few people actually seem to suffer or at least we 
never hear of it.  Still we keep advising people to update to the most recent 
possible version but to try avoiding it completely if they can.  For us the 
1.6_32 is currently the most usable as the 1.7 has never really worked well 
with LO.  


As time goes on it seems that java is compromised faster and faster.  Each new 
release lasting less and less time until some horror story emerges.   Their 1.7 
branch was supposed to be their best ever taking the whole thing to a new 
plateau of rock solid stability and sfaety but the 1st 4 versions got 
compromised even before release!  


Meanwhile the TDF devs working on LO have removed just about all dependancy on 
java.  There are still a few Wizards and Extensions that need it and, of 
course, the database program (but only if you use the internal embedded 
back-end) and all the Accessibility stuff.

So, the User List stance is to try to get people to try not using Java at all 
but if they do need it to use the one that does work with LO - which i don't 
think has been compromised just yet although that's probably just because it 
hasn't reached the mainstream media yet because it's considered an 'old' 
version even though it was released after the latest in the 1.7 branch.  


Regards from
Tom :)  






>
> From: Fabian Rodriguez 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 19:14
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] What is the status of Java security vs. 
>LibreOffice?
> 
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>I saw this a few days ago, I'd like to know what should I make of it?:
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>
>I never install Java when I install LibreOffice, but a few people end up
>installing it.
>
>I have seen a few threads about it in the fr-discuss list, but nothing
>clear/concise (although I may have missed a post or two).
>
>Thanks for any information.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Fabian Rodriguez
>http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca
>
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] What is the status of Java security vs. LibreOffice?

2012-08-30 Thread Jay Lozier
On 08/30/2012 02:14 PM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I saw this a few days ago, I'd like to know what should I make of it?:
> http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/08/critical-flaw-under-active-attack-prompts-calls-to-disable-java/
>
> I never install Java when I install LibreOffice, but a few people end up
> installing it.
>
> I have seen a few threads about it in the fr-discuss list, but nothing
> clear/concise (although I may have missed a post or two).
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fabian Rodriguez
> http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca
>
>
>
AFAIK Java is primarily used by the embedded Base engine and possibly
some extensions. If you use a non-Java database (MySQL, Postgres,
MariaDB, etc) that does not use Java you do not need Java.

The security problems are Java problems and are not OS or app related
and can affect any computer running the unpatched Java version(s). My
understanding is the transmission is likely via rogue or corrupted
websites that use Java rather than via a downloaded Java app.

I do not know if this issue affects the openJRE project.

-- 
Jay Lozier
jsloz...@gmail.com


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Re: [libreoffice-users] What is the status of Java security vs. LibreOffice?

2012-08-30 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 30/08/2012 at 20:14, Fabian Rodriguez  wrote:

> I saw this a few days ago, I'd like to know what should I make of it?:
> http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/08/critical-flaw-under-active-attack-p
> rompts-calls-to-disable-java/

This article already explains it:
"Those who need Java to run applications such as Open Office or Freemind can 
still protect themselves by disabling Java in their browser to prevent drive-
by attacks on booby-trapped websites."

Until patch is provided, it might be wise to not open office documents from 
uncertain source (that is: all but your own). Most likely it is not needed, 
but it won't harm.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right margin?

2012-08-30 Thread Steve Edmonds



On 31/08/12 1:48 AM, Dan wrote:

Gilles wrote:

Hello

I use H1 for the document's main title, and H2 for sub-sections.

To make H2 sections more obvious, I'd like to have the text 
underlined and
have the underline go all the way to the right margin instead of just 
the

text itself.

I vaguely remember being able to do this with Word, but can LibreOffice
Writer do this too?

Thank you.


 The User Guides for LO have what you want already. The answer is 
to use styles.
 Open the Styles and Formatting window (use F11 to do this). When 
it opens, right click Heading 2 and select Modify. Click the Border 
tab. You want to create a bottom border by clicking below the gray 
square in the User defined window. Select the thickness (width) for 
the line and the color you want to use. If you have a preference as to 
the type of line used, select that also. Click OK. This should do it.


--Dan
Can you not also highlight the H2 text, right click, edit paragraph 
style and then set the bottom border rather than opening the styles 
window (less scary for a new user).

steve

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[libreoffice-users] What is the status of Java security vs. LibreOffice?

2012-08-30 Thread Fabian Rodriguez

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Hi all

I saw this a few days ago, I'd like to know what should I make of it?:
http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/08/critical-flaw-under-active-attack-prompts-calls-to-disable-java/

I never install Java when I install LibreOffice, but a few people end up
installing it.

I have seen a few threads about it in the fr-discuss list, but nothing
clear/concise (although I may have missed a post or two).

Thanks for any information.

Cheers,

Fabian Rodriguez
http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Ver. 3.6.1 still bad recognition date.

2012-08-30 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 30/08/2012 at 07:57, Alex Thurgood  wrote:

> It is also planned to allow a user configuration 
> option to switch on/off certain formats for date recognition, but I 
> don't think that this has been integrated yet.

Code has been contributed yesterday, but it awaits review. Eike Rathke (guy 
responsible for this change) hopes that it will be incorporated in 3.6.3.

You can see status and patch here:
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/511

Let's hope it will be in 3.6.3. Until then, users depending on this certain 
feature should stick with 3.5 line.
By the way: there will be at least one more release of 3.5, scheduled for mid-
October.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Find and replace graphics

2012-08-30 Thread Dan

timecode wrote:

Hello Community,

I have a problem with LibreOffice Writer (3.5.4.2) I just can't figure out.

I save copies of essays from a scientific database. This database adds a
little graphic to each footnote. I want to erase all these graphics from my
documents. But how can I do that?

Is there an option that enables me to select all identical objects within
the document after I selected one?


Any help will be much appreciated!


Best regards,
timecode


 The answer may be easier than I had thought. But first of all I am 
still confused as to how the scientific database creates the ODT that has 
all of the essays and footnotes. Is this a report?
 The answer may depend upon the use of styles, specifically the style 
used for the footnotes. Open the document with the footnotes. Click one of 
the words in one of the footnotes. Use the F11 key to open the Styles and 
Formatting window. Then change Automatic to All in the drop down list at 
the bottom of this window. You should see a style highlighted. If so, right 
click it and select Modify. Then click the Background tab. If, I am 
correct, the graphic arrow is located here. If so, change Graphic to Color 
in the drop down list in the upper left corner of the Paragraph dialog. 
Click OK.
 Otherwise, could you send me a copy of the ODT in question? (off 
list) I would like to look at it to see what are the styles used in it.


--Dan


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

2012-08-30 Thread Nino Novak
Hi timecode,

Am 29.08.2012 15:25 schrieb timecode:

> I save copies of essays from a scientific database. This database adds a
> little graphic to each footnote. I want to erase all these graphics from my
> documents. But how can I do that?

If there are no other graphic elements that you want to be shown, you can
comletely disable graphic display (Tools > Options > LibreOffice Writer > View >
Display)


> Is there an option that enables me to select all identical objects within
> the document after I selected one?

If you want to jump from graphics to graphics for deleting, you can use the
Navigator (F5). It's not ideal, but a bit quicker than manual navigation.

Nino



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

2012-08-30 Thread timecode
Hello,

indeed, I'm dealing with linked graphics. I also took a look at the xml file
and found the correspondent references. I don't think it will be worth the
effort editing all those xml files, since I got quite some essays with a
zillion footnotes each.


But thanks a lot for your help!
timecode



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Pivottable/Chart Compatibility in Calc 3.6 with Excel 2002

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Were you able to resolve this issue?  Did you get any decent answers from the 
Users List?  If not then it might be good to ask again now.  Sometimes people 
just need time to mull over questions but by then they have forgotten what they 
were mulling over as there are constant distractions.  Also new people join the 
lists all the time and everyone has different experience in different areas.
Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: Steve Morris 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2012, 0:01
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] Pivottable/Chart Compatibility in Calc 3.6 with 
>Excel 2002
> 
>Hi,
>    I am trying to reproduce spreadsheets created at work in Excel 2002 in 
>Libreoffice 3.6 under Linux and can't do it because pivottables and charts are 
>not functionally compatible.
>    When I create the pivottable and drag the fields to the layout I have the 
>following issues:
>        At field add time I cannot rename the field nor can I specify the 
>format of the field if I want a different format to the source (Excel allows 
>both at drag time).
>        I am not allowed to rename at any time the fields in the page section 
>of the layout (Excel allows this at drag time).
>        There is no pivottable toolbar, hence there is no way to add 
>calculated fields to the pivottable (Excel provides this functionality along 
>with additional functionality available from the toolbar).
>        I cannot click on a column in the data portion of the pivottable and 
>drag the column to a new location in the data portion (Excel allows this, and 
>I have a spreadsheet where this functionality is mandatory for the data to be 
>displayed from month to month as a new months worth of data is automatically 
>added to the table).
>    When I create a chart and define 2 data series to be plotted, Calc appears 
>to not allow me to display each series as a different chart type (Excel allows 
>this by plotting both series using the same chart type, then by clicking on 
>the series excel allows it to be changed from say a bar chart to a line chart, 
>and allows this to be done for any subsequently added series).
>
>    What is the possibility of getting this functionality in calc so that it 
>can be used as a functional replacement for older versions of excel.
>
>regards,
>Steve
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ouch!  Xml is not pretty unless you can open it in a text-editor that allows 
you to chooose a colour-coding option.  SCiTe is good and i've heard good 
reports of Notepad++ but normal straight Notepad would be useless.  In Gedit i 
found something in the status-bar that said "Plain text" and clicking on it 
gave a long list of different programming languages and even included 
html/css.  Choosing changed the colour of all the coding brackets to different 
colours that helps me pick-out the bits i need to focus on.   
Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: Dan 
>To: "users@global.libreoffice.org"  
>Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 18:02
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics
> 
>Jannis Sokianos wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I already tried deleting this folder, but to no avail. Maybe the images
>> are in the content.xml?
>
>
>      Have you checked to see if the arrow is a linked graphic? (Edit -> 
>Links) This is a possibility. But there are going to be additional problems 
>even if the arrow is a linked graphic. Even after removing all pictures and 
>thumbnails, the document will have a read error message.
>      What has to be done is to open context.xml. Then remove all 
>references to where the arrow graphic is located in the text document.
>
>--Dan
>
>> Am 30.08.2012 15:19, schrieb Tom Davies:
>>> Hi :)
>>> You can answer either way.  By email you need to use "Reply to all" instead 
>>> of "Reply" because of a recent change to the way the lists work.  Using 
>>> "Reply" sends the message privately, as a pm, instead of to the whole list 
>>> so you suddenly get dependant on one person being right and available. It's 
>>> better to send to the whole list.  Most OpenSource lists seem to work this 
>>> way.
>>>
>>> I just gave the Nabble forum route because it's easier to upload files to 
>>> Nabble but you found somewhere else anyway, which is quite cool :)
>>>
>>> I think the arrow is probably in the "Thumbnails" folder.  If you can 
>>> delete it from there it will vanish.
>>> Regards form
>>> Tom :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 
 From: timecode 
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 13:26
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

 Hey Tom!

 Thanks for that dirty trick! :-) But unfortunately it didn't work. I made a
 http://i47.tinypic.com/2ldimig.png screenshot  of the contents of the
 zip-file. The images remain even after deleting the "Thumbnails" folder and
 a folder named "images"in the Configurations2 directory.

 This  http://i49.tinypic.com/6e3ouu.png screenshot  here shows what I'm
 trying to get rid of: the pesky arrow images.

 Thanks in advance!
 timecode

 PS: Am I able to answer via mail or do I have to post in the forum?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

2012-08-30 Thread Dan

Jannis Sokianos wrote:

Howdy,

I already tried deleting this folder, but to no avail. Maybe the images
are in the content.xml?



 Have you checked to see if the arrow is a linked graphic? (Edit -> 
Links) This is a possibility. But there are going to be additional problems 
even if the arrow is a linked graphic. Even after removing all pictures and 
thumbnails, the document will have a read error message.
 What has to be done is to open context.xml. Then remove all 
references to where the arrow graphic is located in the text document.


--Dan


Am 30.08.2012 15:19, schrieb Tom Davies:

Hi :)
You can answer either way.  By email you need to use "Reply to all" instead of "Reply" 
because of a recent change to the way the lists work.  Using "Reply" sends the message privately, 
as a pm, instead of to the whole list so you suddenly get dependant on one person being right and available. 
It's better to send to the whole list.  Most OpenSource lists seem to work this way.

I just gave the Nabble forum route because it's easier to upload files to 
Nabble but you found somewhere else anyway, which is quite cool :)

I think the arrow is probably in the "Thumbnails" folder.  If you can delete it 
from there it will vanish.
Regards form
Tom :)









From: timecode 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 13:26
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

Hey Tom!

Thanks for that dirty trick! :-) But unfortunately it didn't work. I made a
http://i47.tinypic.com/2ldimig.png screenshot  of the contents of the
zip-file. The images remain even after deleting the "Thumbnails" folder and
a folder named "images"in the Configurations2 directory.

This  http://i49.tinypic.com/6e3ouu.png screenshot  here shows what I'm
trying to get rid of: the pesky arrow images.

Thanks in advance!
timecode

PS: Am I able to answer via mail or do I have to post in the forum?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installed by default on recycled computers

2012-08-30 Thread Fabian Rodriguez

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>> On 08/29/2012 03:29 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
>>> 1] Haitian Creole - Kreyòl Ayisyen - Korektè Òtograf Kreyòl (KÒK)
>>> The file [...]is a part of the NA-DVD
>> I noticed, however it is outdated [...]
>
> How about having students in Haiti work on it? [...]

That's the goal of LibrePlanet Haïti: get local help/exposure for such
projects. Internet access is not widespread, though, so collaboration
via mailing list/online is not as effective and quick as elsewhere. The
same work that can be done for LibO will be happening for other
projects, so I hope to get more people connected via LP Haiti and take
it from there. Above all, I hope someone local leads that :)

>
> As for the NA-DVD distro, I have no problems with people taking it and
using it as the starting point for creating their own version. Take out
the parts not needed and adding those that are. I have been told that
other "groups" have done that over the past year or so since the NA-DVD
has been online.

Of course, but given the limited resources and time, translating all of
it to Creole is impractical, if even possible.
Even updating the current systems and LibreOffice or having up-to-date
installers will prove challenging.

[...]

Cheers,

Fabian Rodriguez
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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] PDF UA

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Does anyone know if Pdf UA is incorporated into LO or if there are plans to do 
so?

I think we have more fine-grained ways such as "tagged" and "1A" and such but 
do they add-up to "UA"?
Regards from
Tom :)  






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> From: Jaap van de Putte 
>To: accessibil...@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, 15 August 2012, 17:05
>Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] PDF UA
> 
>Hi,
>
>PDF/UA has been approved as standard.  It stands for "Universally Accessible 
>PDF".
>Are there any steps made to incorporate this format in LibreOffice and 
>OpenOffice? It would certainly matters for governments in Europe for the 
>European Union has stated that all countries should confirm to WCAG 2, the 
>international accessibility guidelines.
>
>Kind regards, Jaap
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Argument to let OO window stay on top

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Did anyone work out the problem with this Mac?
Regards from
Tom :)  





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> From: Mourad Hedfi 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Friday, 24 August 2012, 10:31
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] Argument to let OO window stay on top
> 
>Hello everyone,
>I'm using OO on Mac OS and I'm starting it from an other application using
>a command line from the terminal with arguments. I'm searching  a way to
>let or force LO window to stay on the top of all opened application.
>I've not found any argument to do this. Does anyone have an idea how to do
>this with argument from LO or uising an another method.
>
>Many thanks in advance for your help.
>Best regards.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ahh, so that is not the issue then.  Sorry!

Does the version of java have to match the app or the OS?  I would have thought 
it has to match the app?  Sorry, i'm still curious even tho it's not the issue 
in this thread.
Regards from
Tom :)  






>
> From: Dan 
>To: "users@global.libreoffice.org"  
>Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 0:56
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1
> 
>      As far as I know, only Windows does not have a 64 bit version. Linux 
>has 64 bit version for both DEB and RPM. The following is the folder 
>containing the installation files for LO 3.6.1.2 The Java I use is also 64 
>bit that I get from the Ubuntu Repository (OpenJDK Java 6) with all the 
>patches.
>
>LibO_3.6.1.2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US
>
>--Dan
>
>
>Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> LibreOffice doesn't have a 64bit version and allegedly needs java to be 32 
>> bit too.
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 29/8/12, Peter Hillier-Brook  wrote:
>>
>> From: Peter Hillier-Brook 
>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1
>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>> Date: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012, 22:05
>>
>> On 29/08/12 18:50, Tom Davies wrote:
>>> Hi :) Errr, on the 64bit Ubuntu is the java also 64bit?  If it is
>>> then can you try installing a 32 bit version of 1.6_32?  LO can be
>>> told which version of java to use so it might work Tools - Options -
>>> Java Regards from Tom :)
>>
>> That sounds like Windows solution! :-)
>>
>> Peter HB
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spadmin fails to run

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Do we know if this problem has been solved yet?  Has the OP been in contact?
Regards from
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>
> From: Felmon Davis 
>To: Tom  
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2012, 18:03
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spadmin fails to run
> 
>On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Tom wrote:
>
>> Hi :)
>> Sorry for the late response!
>> 
>> An 'obvious' way to get a little bit more information about any unix-based
>> command is to add the tag "-h" or "--help" after the command.  In this case
>> it would be something like:
>> 
>> spadmin -h
>> 
>> or
>> 
>> spadmin --help
>> 
>> It's just a quick-help, "cheat sheet".  There is a lot more info in the
>> manual which you can access using the "man" command (seems a little sexist
>> but it's really just short for manual).  So, try
>> 
>> man spadmin
>
>my understanding is that the OP (you have deleted the original post) wasn't 
>getting it to run at all.
>
>he had a funny sign in front of the command which I thought might be an 
>artifact produced by his email. he should be sure to invoke the command as
>
>./spadmin
>
>assuming he is in the same directory or give the whole path (without the 
>leading dot).
>
>> Hmmm, i don't have spadmin installed on my machine so i got nothing from
>> either of those commands.
>
>I have it but it seems to belong to openoffice in my case (on this machine) 
>and seems to require 'sudo' to invoke it as it's owned by root.
>
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>
>regards to you too!
>
>F.
>
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>von Goethe
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

2012-08-30 Thread Jannis Sokianos
Howdy,

I already tried deleting this folder, but to no avail. Maybe the images
are in the content.xml?



Am 30.08.2012 15:19, schrieb Tom Davies:
> Hi :)
> You can answer either way.  By email you need to use "Reply to all" instead 
> of "Reply" because of a recent change to the way the lists work.  Using 
> "Reply" sends the message privately, as a pm, instead of to the whole list so 
> you suddenly get dependant on one person being right and available. It's 
> better to send to the whole list.  Most OpenSource lists seem to work this 
> way.  
>
> I just gave the Nabble forum route because it's easier to upload files to 
> Nabble but you found somewhere else anyway, which is quite cool :)  
>
> I think the arrow is probably in the "Thumbnails" folder.  If you can delete 
> it from there it will vanish.
> Regards form
> Tom :)  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> 
>> From: timecode 
>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>> Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 13:26
>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics
>>
>> Hey Tom!
>>
>> Thanks for that dirty trick! :-) But unfortunately it didn't work. I made a 
>> http://i47.tinypic.com/2ldimig.png screenshot  of the contents of the
>> zip-file. The images remain even after deleting the "Thumbnails" folder and
>> a folder named "images"in the Configurations2 directory.
>>
>> This  http://i49.tinypic.com/6e3ouu.png screenshot  here shows what I'm
>> trying to get rid of: the pesky arrow images.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>> timecode
>>
>> PS: Am I able to answer via mail or do I have to post in the forum?
>>
>>
>>
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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Elements of Libre Office writer document not accessible to Orca screen reader.

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Is anyone here able to get this list onto the devs list?  or a discussion list 
or somewhere the BoD might respond?

Regards from
Tom :)  






>
> From: Dattatray Bhat 
>To: accessibil...@global.libreoffice.org 
>Cc: sagun baijal ; Leena Chourey  
>Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 10:27
>Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] Elements of Libre Office writer document 
>not accessible to Orca screen reader.
> 
>The Navigator feature in LibreOffice is not quite convenient for visually
>disabled users who use the Orca screen reader. Suppose I want to navigate
>to previous or next heading. This is what I do. If there is an easier way,
>please let me know.
>
>   1. Set up Navigator to traverse headings (5-6 keybindings)
>      Press F5 to start Navigator
>      Press F6 4 times (or Shift+F6 once) to activate Navigator window
>      Press Tab to go the list box section
>      Press Right to expand Headings node
>      Press Down to go to first heading label
>   2. From current heading, go to next or previous heading (4-5
>   key-bindings)
>      Press F6 4 times (or Shift+F6 once) to activate Navigator window.
>      Press Tab to go to list box section
>      Press Up or Down to to go to previous or next heading label
>      Press Enter to go to previous or next heading
>
>If structural navigation feature of Orca worked in LibreOffice, I would be
>able to navigate to previous or next heading with a single key-binding. But
>it doesn't work;  due to some LibreOffice bugs. I submitted detailed bug
>reports (listed below) including screen shots to LibreOffice bug tracker in
>March 2011; but there is no progress so far.
>
>35105     A heading in writer document doesn't expose ROLE_HEADING to
>AT-SPI.
>35107     A hyperlink in writer document doesn't expose correct role and
>URL to AT-SPI.
>35110     A list box in writer document doesn't expose correct role to
>AT-SPI.
>35111     A combo box in writer document doesn't expose ROLE_COMBO_BOX to
>AT-SPI.
>35112    A section in writer document is not visible to AT-SPI.
>35129     A spin button in spreadsheet doesn't expose ROLE_SPIN_BUTTON to
>AT-SPI.
>35652     AT-SPI accessible tree omits objects which are not visible on the
>screen.
>35654     A writer document doesn't implement the Collection interface of
>AT-SPI.
>
>Can somebody look into these bug reports please?
>
>Regards.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right margin?

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Nothing beats personal targetted advice from an expert!   Thanks Dan! :)   The 
Styles chapter scared me too so my RTFM answer was particularly bad, on at 
least 2 counts.  

However when i did eventually get around to reading it i found it enourmously 
useful and deeply regret not having read it earlier as it would have saved me 
hours of work and would have pushed me into using LO sooner (again saving me 
hours of struggling with MSO's lack of finesse with images).

Thanks and regards form
Tom :)  






>
> From: Dan 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 15:57
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until 
>right margin?
> 
>Gilles wrote:
>> Thanks for the info. I don't have the time/courage to read the whole document
>> just for this, though.
>> 
>> Out of band, someone came up with this trick:
>> [quote]
>> Set a tab on the right margin and then insert a tab after your text, then
>> underline the white space after the text.
>> [/quote]
>> 
>> It works, but it's a bit cumbersome so I ended up copy/pasting the first
>> title and replaced all the other H2 items.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>
>     Time: let me see ... Chapter 3 is all of 24 pages long. One the top of 
>the second page (Copyright page) is the style you seem to be wanting. Using 
>the F11 key to open the Styles and Formatting window and change Automatic to 
>All Styles at the bottom of it. Then click the Copyright heading. OOoHeading 1 
>will be highlighter. Right click it and select Modify from the context menu. 
>You now have in front of you a dialog containing all the properties contained 
>in the OOoHeading 1. You have 12 tabs with these properties.
>     Now how much time would this take? Not nearly as much time as "reading 
>the whole document for this".
>     I do have one advantage over you. I write some of the documents for LO. 
>So, I have taken the time to learn how to do things using styles. I have a 
>copy of the Complete Writer Guide which I use as a reference once in a while. 
>I also look at the properties of a style once in a while to see what they are. 
>I then put this knowledge to work for me. I now have my own personal outline 
>numbering styles based upon the works of others.
>     If you are going to be using Writer extensively, you might want to get 
>the Writer Guide as well. It is a good reference "book". Control+H will help 
>you search for specifics so you don't have to read "the whole document" for 
>any particular question.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right margin?

2012-08-30 Thread Dan

Gilles wrote:

Thanks for the info. I don't have the time/courage to read the whole document
just for this, though.

Out of band, someone came up with this trick:
[quote]
Set a tab on the right margin and then insert a tab after your text, then
underline the white space after the text.
[/quote]

It works, but it's a bit cumbersome so I ended up copy/pasting the first
title and replaced all the other H2 items.

Thank you.


 Time: let me see ... Chapter 3 is all of 24 pages long. One the top 
of the second page (Copyright page) is the style you seem to be wanting. 
Using the F11 key to open the Styles and Formatting window and change 
Automatic to All Styles at the bottom of it. Then click the Copyright 
heading. OOoHeading 1 will be highlighter. Right click it and select Modify 
from the context menu. You now have in front of you a dialog containing all 
the properties contained in the OOoHeading 1. You have 12 tabs with these 
properties.
 Now how much time would this take? Not nearly as much time as 
"reading the whole document for this".
 I do have one advantage over you. I write some of the documents for 
LO. So, I have taken the time to learn how to do things using styles. I 
have a copy of the Complete Writer Guide which I use as a reference once in 
a while. I also look at the properties of a style once in a while to see 
what they are. I then put this knowledge to work for me. I now have my own 
personal outline numbering styles based upon the works of others.
 If you are going to be using Writer extensively, you might want to 
get the Writer Guide as well. It is a good reference "book". Control+H will 
help you search for specifics so you don't have to read "the whole 
document" for any particular question.


--Dan

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Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
The point was that if you open the same document twice and make tons of changes 
to 1 version but then for some reason end up saving the 2nd copy and not the 
one you edited then you lose all your changes.  

Even if there is only 1 person using the system the chances are still quite 
high of such a thing occuring and so OOo developed a way around it.  It rarely 
goes wrong and if/when it does it's easy to fix and doesn't result in a loss of 
data.  Not having a ~lock file would often result in a loss of data if a 
problem occurred.  
Regards from
Tom :)






>
> From: anne-ology 
>To: Tom  
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 15:29
>Subject: Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock
> 
>       HUH ???
>
>       Whenever the document is saved, it's saved ... when the file(s) are
>re-opened the saved document appears;
>          if it's been saved with a different name - as adding 2 ... - then
>there are more than 1 copy of this document.
>
>
>
>
>On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:
>
>Hi :)
>> Ok, 2 scenarios.
>> 1.  A desperately slow machine (probably Windows).  Double-clicking a file
>> doesn't seem to open it, not entirely convinced it was a proper
>> double-click so double-click again.  At last it opens and you make a lot of
>> changes, and go off to grab a cuppa tea.  back at the computer you are not
>> sure if you saved the document and even tho your fairly sure you closed it
>> it still seems to be open so you save again and quit.  Later you open the
>> document to find NONE of your changes have been saved.  Why?
>>
>> 2.  On a swift machine with multiple workspaces you want 2 copies of the
>> file open, one to edit and the other on a different workspace to copy info
>> from or as a look-up source.  After a ton of editing you get a phone call
>> and switch workspaces to look-up stuff from various open files to deal with
>> the call.  A few distractions later and you get back to the machine and
>> save and close the open document and shut-down the machine.  Next day you
>> find NONE of your edits were saved.  Why?
>>
>>
>> I'm sure you can imagine a ton of situations where something could easily
>> occur in your own place where you might not be 100% focused and infallible
>> on an infallible machine.
>>
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>>
>> From: anne-ology 
>> Subject: Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock
>> To: "MiguelAngel" 
>> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
>> Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 3:17
>>
>>        Huh ???
>>
>>        Well, (1) these ~lock files do appear when the file is open -
>>                         that's what's frustrating; when it begins to slow
>> down, I check & discover this inane file has appeared.
>>
>>        (2) I do NOT understand why I should place the file away from the
>> computer's HD before its completed?;
>>               once completed I copy it to an external HD, but still retain
>> it on the computer's HD.
>>
>>        (3) I do NOT understand why I, the sole user of this machine, would
>> not have access to do whatever I wish with this machine  ;-)
>>               and the more these machines change, the more I think I should
>> pitch them out the window and return to the 'horse & buggy' era  ;-)
>>
>>        A bug or not a bug ... a bug by any other name would be the same ...
>>             which reminds me of these silly acronyms - there were wasps -
>> still are - flitting around the woods ... then there were WASPs following
>> the AAC in WWII ... then there were WASPs - according to the '60s media -
>> along with other groups back-then.
>>        [and that's just 1 example of how acronyms can become confusing
>> ;-)]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 7:05 PM, MiguelAngel > >wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Asunto: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock
>> > Fecha: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:23:17 -0500
>> > De: anne-ology 
>> > A: Tom 
>> > CC: Steve , users@global.libreoffice.org
>> >
>> >
>> >        Thanks for your response -
>> >
>> >        unfortunately, it does NOT go away;
>> >            sometimes, I've found several of these ~lock files  ;-(
>> > --**--
>> >
>> > I've only seen this issue when the file is not closed properly.
>> > For example remove the memory stick with files opened.
>> > A program crash.
>> > Or maybe do not have rights to delete in that directory.
>> >
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Yes, as other people are saying (with varying degrees of paranoia) antiviruses 
do have a lot of false positives.  It's like having a guard dog and then 
grumbling because it barks.  

A better course is to congratulate it on succesfully blocking something from 
installing (ie doing it's job) and then switch it off, do the install and then 
switch it on again.   

As 1 person said it's wise to unplug the network cable or switch off your 
router (if at home) so that you have no internet connection while the antivirus 
is off but at that level of paranoia i would recommend just not using Windows 
in the first place.  With Windows you just have to accept that your system is 
not secure [shrugs] and that to some extent you are always going to have to 
just trust to luck.  It's wise to minimise that where it's reasonably 
possible.  Unplugging a network cable might not be easy but if it is then it's 
worth doing.  

People say that Windows is easier but then forget that they have to struggle 
through this sort of thing.  Other systems have different struggles.  
Regards from
Tom :)  






>
> From: Jeff Hahn 
>To: "ville...@t-online.de" ; 
>"users@global.libreoffice.org"  
>Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 15:12
>Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
> 
>Most likely Norton has messed up.  I am trying to get through on their Online 
>help system, without much success. Jeff
>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>> From: ville...@t-online.de
>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
>> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:09:49 +0200
>> 
>> Am 30.08.2012 14:29, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
>> > Are you saying projects like the NA-DVD might have a "modified" version
>> > of LO hiding something that should not be there?
>> 
>> Do you trust any site like this one?
>> > http://www.bestfreewaredownload.com/freeware/k-presentation-domination-scam-t-free-libreoffice-portable-freeware-aeawdtnx.html
>> 
>> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Record macro

2012-08-30 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 30/08/2012 at 16:03, Thomas Blasejewicz  wrote:

> So, where IS the "Record macro" button now???

At Tools → Macros → Record macro.

But first you must go Tools → Options → LibreOffice → General and check "Enable 
macro recording".
Restarting LO is not needed.

This option has been disabled by default because macro recorder has never 
worked reliably. Users are encouraged to write macros themselves.
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Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock

2012-08-30 Thread anne-ology
   HUH ???

   Whenever the document is saved, it's saved ... when the file(s) are
re-opened the saved document appears;
  if it's been saved with a different name - as adding 2 ... - then
there are more than 1 copy of this document.




On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:

Hi :)
> Ok, 2 scenarios.
> 1.  A desperately slow machine (probably Windows).  Double-clicking a file
> doesn't seem to open it, not entirely convinced it was a proper
> double-click so double-click again.  At last it opens and you make a lot of
> changes, and go off to grab a cuppa tea.  back at the computer you are not
> sure if you saved the document and even tho your fairly sure you closed it
> it still seems to be open so you save again and quit.  Later you open the
> document to find NONE of your changes have been saved.  Why?
>
> 2.  On a swift machine with multiple workspaces you want 2 copies of the
> file open, one to edit and the other on a different workspace to copy info
> from or as a look-up source.  After a ton of editing you get a phone call
> and switch workspaces to look-up stuff from various open files to deal with
> the call.  A few distractions later and you get back to the machine and
> save and close the open document and shut-down the machine.  Next day you
> find NONE of your edits were saved.  Why?
>
>
> I'm sure you can imagine a ton of situations where something could easily
> occur in your own place where you might not be 100% focused and infallible
> on an infallible machine.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> From: anne-ology 
> Subject: Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock
> To: "MiguelAngel" 
> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 3:17
>
>Huh ???
>
>Well, (1) these ~lock files do appear when the file is open -
> that's what's frustrating; when it begins to slow
> down, I check & discover this inane file has appeared.
>
>(2) I do NOT understand why I should place the file away from the
> computer's HD before its completed?;
>   once completed I copy it to an external HD, but still retain
> it on the computer's HD.
>
>(3) I do NOT understand why I, the sole user of this machine, would
> not have access to do whatever I wish with this machine  ;-)
>   and the more these machines change, the more I think I should
> pitch them out the window and return to the 'horse & buggy' era  ;-)
>
>A bug or not a bug ... a bug by any other name would be the same ...
> which reminds me of these silly acronyms - there were wasps -
> still are - flitting around the woods ... then there were WASPs following
> the AAC in WWII ... then there were WASPs - according to the '60s media -
> along with other groups back-then.
>[and that's just 1 example of how acronyms can become confusing
> ;-)]
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 7:05 PM, MiguelAngel  >wrote:
>
>
> > Asunto: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock
> > Fecha: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:23:17 -0500
> > De: anne-ology 
> > A: Tom 
> > CC: Steve , users@global.libreoffice.org
> >
> >
> >Thanks for your response -
> >
> >unfortunately, it does NOT go away;
> >sometimes, I've found several of these ~lock files  ;-(
> > --**--
> >
> > I've only seen this issue when the file is not closed properly.
> > For example remove the memory stick with files opened.
> > A program crash.
> > Or maybe do not have rights to delete in that directory.
> >
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Jay Lozier
On 08/30/2012 10:03 AM, Jeff Hahn wrote:
> I did the original post.  I am running Windows.  With this download I am 
> following the same procedure I used when I installed 3.6.0.  I click on the 
> "Main installer" at the LO website, select "run" from the Windows popup and 
> wait.  The program is downloaded after which time Norton does a "security 
> scan."  WIth 3.6.0 the security scan was done and the program then completed 
> the installation without incident.  With 3.6.1 at the completion of the 
> security scan Norton announces that the download is a possible virus and then 
> deletes it. Jeff
Hi,

IMHO, Norton AV appears to be giving a false positive. Does it identify
the alleged malware? I would check Norton's Quarantine and see if you
can restore from there. You might contact Norton to see if they have a
work around.
>> Hi :)
>> It is always possible that different locations end-up with a non-standard 
>> version of LO.  Part of the ethos of OpenSource is that people can make 
>> changes.  If they don't send their change in to the main development process 
>> here then they miss the chance to push their changes through a decenlkick on 
>> t QA and the beta-testing that happens on millions of real-world machines 
>> around the world.  
>>
>> However, corporate organisations might want to do things like getting their 
>> logo and branding in their on the versions their staff uses.  Magazines 
>> might want to bundle LO in different ways or whatnot.  So even though you 
>> might end up with a non-standard version the changes might well be trivial 
>> and even beneficial.  
>>
>> However none of that is the problem that was alluded to.  Most sources of 
>> non-standard downloads will give their own md5sum and/or Sha to deal with 
>> the main problem.  
>>
>> The issue alluded to is that accidents might happen during download or 
>> copying and Cds/Dvds might end-up with scratches or smudges while still 
>> appearing to work.  
>>
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> 
>>> From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
>>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>>> Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 13:29
>>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
>>>
>>> On 08/30/2012 04:39 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
 Am 30.08.2012 02:21, Dan wrote:
>   To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download 
> file?
>   Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the
> upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
> Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO
> update, turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you
> reconnect to the Internet.
>
> --Dan
>
 And you do the above steps only if you are very sure that you downloaded 
 and verified the download from libreoffice.org/download .
 You find the md5 hash to verifiy your download when you click the "Info" 
 link besides the "Torrent" link on libreoffice.org/download.

>>> Are you saying projects like the NA-DVD might have a "modified" version of 
>>> LO hiding something that should not be there?  Yes, going to the main 
>>> download site should be the default, but having local/regional projects 
>>> where you can get LO is important.  I think if you state that the only 
>>> place for users to get LO is from the download site, then there might be 
>>> some problems with distribution CDs/DVDs that are also listed on the 
>>> download pages.  If you hand out these media to people, but they are told 
>>> that the only place that it is safe to get the packages is from the 
>>> official download web site, then there might not be any trust in the 
>>> localized projects.  Hopefully this is not what you are saying.
>>>
>>> Since I do not know how to create a md5-hash for my installation files on 
>>> the NA-DVD project web page and physical media, I cannot offer that.
>>>
>>>
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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Jeff Hahn
Most likely Norton has messed up.  I am trying to get through on their Online 
help system, without much success. Jeff
 > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> From: ville...@t-online.de
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:09:49 +0200
> 
> Am 30.08.2012 14:29, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
> > Are you saying projects like the NA-DVD might have a "modified" version
> > of LO hiding something that should not be there?
> 
> Do you trust any site like this one?
> > http://www.bestfreewaredownload.com/freeware/k-presentation-domination-scam-t-free-libreoffice-portable-freeware-aeawdtnx.html
> 
> 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 30.08.2012 14:29, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

Are you saying projects like the NA-DVD might have a "modified" version
of LO hiding something that should not be there?


Do you trust any site like this one?

http://www.bestfreewaredownload.com/freeware/k-presentation-domination-scam-t-free-libreoffice-portable-freeware-aeawdtnx.html




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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Jeff Hahn
I did the original post.  I am running Windows.  With this download I am 
following the same procedure I used when I installed 3.6.0.  I click on the 
"Main installer" at the LO website, select "run" from the Windows popup and 
wait.  The program is downloaded after which time Norton does a "security 
scan."  WIth 3.6.0 the security scan was done and the program then completed 
the installation without incident.  With 3.6.1 at the completion of the 
security scan Norton announces that the download is a possible virus and then 
deletes it. Jeff
> 
> Hi :)
> It is always possible that different locations end-up with a non-standard 
> version of LO.  Part of the ethos of OpenSource is that people can make 
> changes.  If they don't send their change in to the main development process 
> here then they miss the chance to push their changes through a decenlkick on 
> t QA and the beta-testing that happens on millions of real-world machines 
> around the world.  
> 
> However, corporate organisations might want to do things like getting their 
> logo and branding in their on the versions their staff uses.  Magazines might 
> want to bundle LO in different ways or whatnot.  So even though you might end 
> up with a non-standard version the changes might well be trivial and even 
> beneficial.  
> 
> However none of that is the problem that was alluded to.  Most sources of 
> non-standard downloads will give their own md5sum and/or Sha to deal with the 
> main problem.  
> 
> The issue alluded to is that accidents might happen during download or 
> copying and Cds/Dvds might end-up with scratches or smudges while still 
> appearing to work.  
> 
> Regards from
> Tom :)  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
> >To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
> >Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 13:29
> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
> > 
> >On 08/30/2012 04:39 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
> >> Am 30.08.2012 02:21, Dan wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>   To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download 
> >>> file?
> >>>   Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the
> >>> upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
> >>> Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO
> >>> update, turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you
> >>> reconnect to the Internet.
> >>> 
> >>> --Dan
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> And you do the above steps only if you are very sure that you downloaded 
> >> and verified the download from libreoffice.org/download .
> >> You find the md5 hash to verifiy your download when you click the "Info" 
> >> link besides the "Torrent" link on libreoffice.org/download.
> >> 
> >Are you saying projects like the NA-DVD might have a "modified" version of 
> >LO hiding something that should not be there?  Yes, going to the main 
> >download site should be the default, but having local/regional projects 
> >where you can get LO is important.  I think if you state that the only place 
> >for users to get LO is from the download site, then there might be some 
> >problems with distribution CDs/DVDs that are also listed on the download 
> >pages.  If you hand out these media to people, but they are told that the 
> >only place that it is safe to get the packages is from the official download 
> >web site, then there might not be any trust in the localized projects.  
> >Hopefully this is not what you are saying.
> >
> >Since I do not know how to create a md5-hash for my installation files on 
> >the NA-DVD project web page and physical media, I cannot offer that.
> >
> >
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[libreoffice-users] Record macro

2012-08-30 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz
Good evening
I recently upgraded to 3.6.
Formerly I used to have macros to highlight text and then remove the
highlight again (important during editing)
Today I noticed, that those macros were working only sometimes - when
they felt like doing so.
Fidling aroung in trying to figure out what is going on, I found:
* the second macro had been disabled.
* I get the "Java Runtime Environment" error that has been mentioned
recently on the list
* Installing a new JRE (1.7) does not work
* Going back to JRE 1.6 got rig (?) of the error, but I apparently need
to create new macros.
(this too is a really unnecessary pain in the neck)

BUT 
there is no "Record macro" button any more!
It used to be unter Tools -> Macros
Yet, now there are only
* Run macro
* Organize macros
- greyed out (digital signature)
* Organize dialogs

The documentation says:

*When in Writer:* #Open the document for which you want to record a macro.

 1. Choose *Tools - Macros - Record Macro*.
You see the small *Recording* dialog with just one button called
*Stop Recording*.

So, where IS the "Record macro" button now???



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Re: [libreoffice-users] [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right margin?

2012-08-30 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 30/08/2012 at 15:15, Gilles  wrote:

> I vaguely remember being able to do this with Word, but can LibreOffice
> Writer do this too?

Don't use underline (in "Font effects" tab) but use borders (in, well, 
"Borders" tab) instead. Just add bottom border, possibly set width, style and 
spacing and you are done.

Please note that border will underline whole header box, not line of text 
(check with long headings of two or more lines of text). Perhaps this is 
something you want anyway, but you should be aware of difference.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right margin?

2012-08-30 Thread Dan

Gilles wrote:

Hello

I use H1 for the document's main title, and H2 for sub-sections.

To make H2 sections more obvious, I'd like to have the text underlined and
have the underline go all the way to the right margin instead of just the
text itself.

I vaguely remember being able to do this with Word, but can LibreOffice
Writer do this too?

Thank you.


 The User Guides for LO have what you want already. The answer is to 
use styles.
 Open the Styles and Formatting window (use F11 to do this). When it 
opens, right click Heading 2 and select Modify. Click the Border tab. You 
want to create a bottom border by clicking below the gray square in the 
User defined window. Select the thickness (width) for the line and the 
color you want to use. If you have a preference as to the type of line 
used, select that also. Click OK. This should do it.


--Dan


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[libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right margin?

2012-08-30 Thread Gilles
Thanks for the info. I don't have the time/courage to read the whole document
just for this, though.

Out of band, someone came up with this trick:
[quote]
Set a tab on the right margin and then insert a tab after your text, then
underline the white space after the text.
[/quote]

It works, but it's a bit cumbersome so I ended up copy/pasting the first
title and replaced all the other H2 items.

Thank you.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right margin?

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Yes.  

Errr, i am not sure about the variety of underlining and such but there are 10 
levels of headings that, by default, are linked together so that if you change 
the font on one of them that change flows through to the rest so that you can 
easily keep things consistent.  I'm not sure how smart it is, for example if 
changing h2 changes h1 or just the ones lower than it (h3, h4 and so on).  It's 
easy enough to change the default.  

There is a chapter about styles and templates in official documentation.  
Chapter 3 of the "Getting Started Guide".  There are pre-release and older 
versions of official documentation on this wiki-page
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
But it is fairly widely distributed already.  

Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: Gilles 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 14:15
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right 
>margin?
> 
>Hello
>
>I use H1 for the document's main title, and H2 for sub-sections.
>
>To make H2 sections more obvious, I'd like to have the text underlined and
>have the underline go all the way to the right margin instead of just the
>text itself.
>
>I vaguely remember being able to do this with Word, but can LibreOffice
>Writer do this too?
>
>Thank you.
>
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1

2012-08-30 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook

On 29/08/12 23:39, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
LibreOffice doesn't have a 64bit version and allegedly needs java to be 32 bit 
too.
Regards from
Tom :)


I don't know where you got that idea from, unless you haven't noticed 
that I'm talking about Linux, not the MS product. ;-)


I've been using fully 64 bit systems for several years, firstly with OOo 
and then LO and, as indicated further down this thread, the combination 
is functioning perfectly well on another system with the same software 
installation(s). I'm guessing that the mal-functioning is related to the 
profile somewhere. Experiments continue.


Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
You can answer either way.  By email you need to use "Reply to all" instead of 
"Reply" because of a recent change to the way the lists work.  Using "Reply" 
sends the message privately, as a pm, instead of to the whole list so you 
suddenly get dependant on one person being right and available. It's better to 
send to the whole list.  Most OpenSource lists seem to work this way.  

I just gave the Nabble forum route because it's easier to upload files to 
Nabble but you found somewhere else anyway, which is quite cool :)  

I think the arrow is probably in the "Thumbnails" folder.  If you can delete it 
from there it will vanish.
Regards form
Tom :)  







>
> From: timecode 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 13:26
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics
> 
>Hey Tom!
>
>Thanks for that dirty trick! :-) But unfortunately it didn't work. I made a 
>http://i47.tinypic.com/2ldimig.png screenshot  of the contents of the
>zip-file. The images remain even after deleting the "Thumbnails" folder and
>a folder named "images"in the Configurations2 directory.
>
>This  http://i49.tinypic.com/6e3ouu.png screenshot  here shows what I'm
>trying to get rid of: the pesky arrow images.
>
>Thanks in advance!
>timecode
>
>PS: Am I able to answer via mail or do I have to post in the forum?
>
>
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[libreoffice-users] [3.5.3.2/Writer] H2 = underline until right margin?

2012-08-30 Thread Gilles
Hello

I use H1 for the document's main title, and H2 for sub-sections.

To make H2 sections more obvious, I'd like to have the text underlined and
have the underline go all the way to the right margin instead of just the
text itself.

I vaguely remember being able to do this with Word, but can LibreOffice
Writer do this too?

Thank you.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It is always possible that different locations end-up with a non-standard 
version of LO.  Part of the ethos of OpenSource is that people can make 
changes.  If they don't send their change in to the main development process 
here then they miss the chance to push their changes through a decent QA and 
the beta-testing that happens on millions of real-world machines around the 
world.  

However, corporate organisations might want to do things like getting their 
logo and branding in their on the versions their staff uses.  Magazines might 
want to bundle LO in different ways or whatnot.  So even though you might end 
up with a non-standard version the changes might well be trivial and even 
beneficial.  

However none of that is the problem that was alluded to.  Most sources of 
non-standard downloads will give their own md5sum and/or Sha to deal with the 
main problem.  

The issue alluded to is that accidents might happen during download or copying 
and Cds/Dvds might end-up with scratches or smudges while still appearing to 
work.  

Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 13:29
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
> 
>On 08/30/2012 04:39 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
>> Am 30.08.2012 02:21, Dan wrote:
>>> 
>>>       To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download file?
>>>       Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the
>>> upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
>>> Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO
>>> update, turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you
>>> reconnect to the Internet.
>>> 
>>> --Dan
>>> 
>> 
>> And you do the above steps only if you are very sure that you downloaded and 
>> verified the download from libreoffice.org/download .
>> You find the md5 hash to verifiy your download when you click the "Info" 
>> link besides the "Torrent" link on libreoffice.org/download.
>> 
>Are you saying projects like the NA-DVD might have a "modified" version of LO 
>hiding something that should not be there?  Yes, going to the main download 
>site should be the default, but having local/regional projects where you can 
>get LO is important.  I think if you state that the only place for users to 
>get LO is from the download site, then there might be some problems with 
>distribution CDs/DVDs that are also listed on the download pages.  If you hand 
>out these media to people, but they are told that the only place that it is 
>safe to get the packages is from the official download web site, then there 
>might not be any trust in the localized projects.  Hopefully this is not what 
>you are saying.
>
>Since I do not know how to create a md5-hash for my installation files on the 
>NA-DVD project web page and physical media, I cannot offer that.
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installed by default on recycled computers

2012-08-30 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 08/30/2012 07:44 AM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:

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1] Haitian Creole - Kreyòl Ayisyen - Korektè Òtograf Kreyòl (KÒK)
The file [...]is a part of the NA-DVD

I noticed, however it is outdated :( That extension seemed abandoned
until I got in touch with its main dev - I am trying to get him to list
it on the official LibO site, update it, etc. I didn't distribute many
copies of the NA-DVD as it was in English and contained too many files
that were not directly relevant. I am thinking how I can contribute to
improve this.


How about having students in Haiti work on it?  I took the basic info in 
the English dictionary and made it my own with taking the original word 
list and replacing it with one that had many, many more words in it.  
The local students could do the same. They could build a current 
spelling word list and build their own dictionary extension.


As for the NA-DVD distro, I have no problems with people taking it and 
using it as the starting point for creating their own version.  Take out 
the parts not needed and adding those that are.  I have been told that 
other "groups" have done that over the past year or so since the NA-DVD 
has been online.


.

2] Good Job - going to Haiti to help out over there.

Thanks! It's really easy to work there as free software in general is
highly compatible with values they already have: sharing, helping,
improving, re-sharing, etc.

[..]

Cheers,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


I use the free versions of Comodo.  They have free [and paid] anti-virus 
and full security packages that include firewalls.  I use to use the 
free AVG, but then I had to add a separate firewall package, like 
Zonealarm.  Now I use only Comodo's free package that has both types of 
security.  Of course, that is to say that I use Comodo only on my 
Windows systems.


When I only used Windows systems, I maintained a list of free options 
for packages.  This link starts the section on security software.  I do 
not update it [much] anymore, but the list does have some good options. 
http://www.lungstrom.com/list/#thisvirus


.
On 08/30/2012 06:13 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Norton used to be completely awesome.  Everything they did was totally amazing 
and extremely useful.  Then they became corporate and serious.

Nowadays i use AVG or something else but still when a threat is publicised as 
being particularly nasty and i suspect one of the machines i deal with might 
have fallen foul of it i still find Symantec a good place to research into it.

One of the first jobs of a threat is to knock-out or dodge all known security 
so any of the big and famous antivirus' is likely to useless against any decent 
threat.  Luckily most threats are fairly trivial so even the big and famous 
antivirus programs can probably deal with it.  If it's non-trivial then there 
is always the option to nuke your Bios and reinstall your OS.  Still now that 
AVG is so famous i'm starting to consider other options.

Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Thu, 30/8/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P  wrote:

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 2:27

On 08/29/2012 08:21 PM, Dan wrote:

Jeff Hahn wrote:

When I try to upgrade from 3.6.0 to 3.6.1 the Norton AntiVirus program
keeps deleting the upgrade as an unsafe virus. This is the first release
that I have had this type of problem with. Jeff


   To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download file?
   Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the 
upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO update, turn 
on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you reconnect to the 
Internet.

--Dan


This is not the first time I have heard of Norton stating valid install files 
were viruses or other nasties.

I never had any good luck with Norton's AV, so I use the free version of Comodo 
product[s] for my Windows machines.  I have hooked even PC repair and selling 
pro's to using it.

As for not having AV running when not online, well that is not what I would tell people.  An 
anti-virus is needed if you are offline and suddenly there is a trojan or other nasty kicking in 
and doing a number.  They can be picked up and not cleaned in a few ways other than being online.  
I have my Ubuntu system picking up new things from files that I have had on my system for months 
and suddenly it detects something the AV system does not like.  If I did not have the AV system on 
24/7, then those issues might not have been picked up.  The real thing is that the AV systems 
update their data systems, mostly, after a new "nasty" has been detected.  If your system 
has that "nasty" on it before that nasty has been added to your AV data system, then you 
will need to have the other parts of the AV and security system[s] on to detect the traces of it 
trying to work.  SO do not turn your computer security off.

I have had to deal with too many systems from friends and clients where they 
did not have their security on 24/7 and kept up-to-date.  Had one system that 
the AV was on but not updated in over 2 years and the guy lost a lot.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 08/30/2012 04:39 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 30.08.2012 02:21, Dan wrote:


  To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download 
file?

  Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the
upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO
update, turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you
reconnect to the Internet.

--Dan



And you do the above steps only if you are very sure that you 
downloaded and verified the download from libreoffice.org/download .
You find the md5 hash to verifiy your download when you click the 
"Info" link besides the "Torrent" link on libreoffice.org/download.


Are you saying projects like the NA-DVD might have a "modified" version 
of LO hiding something that should not be there?  Yes, going to the main 
download site should be the default, but having local/regional projects 
where you can get LO is important.  I think if you state that the only 
place for users to get LO is from the download site, then there might be 
some problems with distribution CDs/DVDs that are also listed on the 
download pages.  If you hand out these media to people, but they are 
told that the only place that it is safe to get the packages is from the 
official download web site, then there might not be any trust in the 
localized projects.  Hopefully this is not what you are saying.


Since I do not know how to create a md5-hash for my installation files 
on the NA-DVD project web page and physical media, I cannot offer that.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Find and replace graphics

2012-08-30 Thread timecode
Hey Tom!

Thanks for that dirty trick! :-) But unfortunately it didn't work. I made a 
http://i47.tinypic.com/2ldimig.png screenshot  of the contents of the
zip-file. The images remain even after deleting the "Thumbnails" folder and
a folder named "images"in the Configurations2 directory.

This  http://i49.tinypic.com/6e3ouu.png screenshot  here shows what I'm
trying to get rid of: the pesky arrow images.

Thanks in advance!
timecode

PS: Am I able to answer via mail or do I have to post in the forum?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installed by default on recycled computers

2012-08-30 Thread Fabian Rodriguez

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>
> 1] Haitian Creole - Kreyòl Ayisyen - Korektè Òtograf Kreyòl (KÒK)
> The file [...]is a part of the NA-DVD

I noticed, however it is outdated :( That extension seemed abandoned
until I got in touch with its main dev - I am trying to get him to list
it on the official LibO site, update it, etc. I didn't distribute many
copies of the NA-DVD as it was in English and contained too many files
that were not directly relevant. I am thinking how I can contribute to
improve this.

> 2] Good Job - going to Haiti to help out over there.

Thanks! It's really easy to work there as free software in general is
highly compatible with values they already have: sharing, helping,
improving, re-sharing, etc.

[..]

Cheers,

- --
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http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Extension to publish Blog posts direct from Writer?

2012-08-30 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 14/08/12 14:07, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
Is there one, or is there a function within Writer to do that? (LO 
3.5.6.2)


Found it eventually.
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/swp


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Update to 3.6.1

2012-08-30 Thread Dan

Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Ahh, yes, most of the guide is about making sure none of the quick-starter
or any other back-ground process is running.  The only problem with
multiple versions is nothing to do with the actual install itself, it's
about running them at the same time as that 'cant' be done yet afaik.

It's interesting to hear that possibly pre-3.5.x can be run at the same
time as a 3.5.x or later.  I wonder if a AOO can be run at the same time as
a 3.5.x or later too?

Regards from
Tom :)


 I do all the time.

--Dan



--- On *Thu, 30/8/12, Dan //* wrote:


From: Dan 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Update to 3.6.1
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 1:06

Tom Davies wrote:
 > Hi :)
 > This guide might help if you want to run a few versions of LO and/or
AOO alongside each other
 > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
 > Regards from
 > Tom :)

   This may also be a Windows problem. My tower uses Ubuntu 11.10 (64
bit). Right now I have LO 3.4.6, 3.5.6, 3.6.1, AND AOO 3.4.1. Side
note: If
I want to run say 3.6.1 and 3.6.2 installing in parallel might be a
good idea.
   I have found that I can not run 3.5.6 and 3.6.1 at the same
time. Yet
I can run either one of them with LO 3.4.6 or AOO 3.4.1. So I can have
three different "soffice" instances running at the same time as long as
two
of them are 3.5 and 3.6. This is true even when I use these two:
/opt/libreoffice3.6/program/soffice
/opt/libreoffice3.5/program/soffice

--Dan

 >
 > --- On Wed, 29/8/12, Andreas Säger > wrote:
 >
 > From: Andreas Säger >
 > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Update to 3.6.1
 > To: users@global.libreoffice.org

 > Date: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012, 19:05
 >
 > Am 29.08.2012 18:55, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
 >> On 29/08/12 16:03, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
 >>> I've just updated to LibO 3.6.1 and hit the following problem when
 >>> trying to access my address book
 >>>
 >>> Does anyone recognise it, Google doesn't?
 >>>
___
 >>>
 >>> The attempt to load the file resulted in the following error message
 >>> (com.sun.star.lang.IllegalArgumentException):
 >>>
 >>> Unsupported URL 
 >>>
___
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
 >>> Java 1.7_06 (and 05)
 >>>
 >>> All was well with LibO 3.6.0 and Java 1.7_05 just prior to the
upgrade,
 >>> carried out by complete removal of 3.6.0 via Synaptic and clean
 >>> installation of the "real" product, downloaded from the
LibreOffice web
 >>> site via dpkg -iR
 >>
 >> Interestingly everything is fine on a 32 bit installation!
 >>
 >>
 >
 > Hi,
 > Since many years I use to update my office suites without removal.
All major versions (OOo 1 and 2, LibO and OOo 3) are separate
applications with separated profile folders anyway.
 > Any problems (if any) are related to the user profile which can be
reset by renaming a folder. Within the profile issues, the installed
extensions are the major culprit (but not the ones I use to have
installed). So I extract the downloaded archive, change to the
extracted directory/DEBS and run
 > sudo dpkg -i *.deb
 > If I want that version to be the default program with menu and
everything I change to the desktop-integration subdirectory and install
that package too.
 > If I do not want that version to be the default program I add a
couple of my own desktop links to the respective executables. There
were times when I had OOo 1.1.5, 2.4.3, 3.4beta, LibO 3.3 and 3.5.x
installed in parallel without any problem.
 >
 > Problems that come up quite frequently on this list are not the
normal case. It is designed to be update out of the box, particularly
on Linux.
 > Just my 2 Cents,
 > A.S.
 >
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Update to 3.6.1

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ahh, yes, most of the guide is about making sure none of the quick-starter or 
any other back-ground process is running.  The only problem with multiple 
versions is nothing to do with the actual install itself, it's about running 
them at the same time as that 'cant' be done yet afaik.  

It's interesting to hear that possibly pre-3.5.x can be run at the same time as 
a 3.5.x or later.  I wonder if a AOO can be run at the same time as a 3.5.x or 
later too?  

Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Thu, 30/8/12, Dan  wrote:

From: Dan 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Update to 3.6.1
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 1:06

Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> This guide might help if you want to run a few versions of LO and/or AOO 
> alongside each other
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
> Regards from
> Tom :)

      This may also be a Windows problem. My tower uses Ubuntu 11.10 (64 
bit). Right now I have LO 3.4.6, 3.5.6, 3.6.1, AND AOO 3.4.1. Side note: If 
I want to run say 3.6.1 and 3.6.2 installing in parallel might be a good idea.
      I have found that I can not run 3.5.6 and 3.6.1 at the same time. Yet 
I can run either one of them with LO 3.4.6 or AOO 3.4.1. So I can have 
three different "soffice" instances running at the same time as long as two 
of them are 3.5 and 3.6. This is true even when I use these two:
/opt/libreoffice3.6/program/soffice
/opt/libreoffice3.5/program/soffice

--Dan

>
> --- On Wed, 29/8/12, Andreas Säger  wrote:
>
> From: Andreas Säger 
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Update to 3.6.1
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012, 19:05
>
> Am 29.08.2012 18:55, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
>> On 29/08/12 16:03, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
>>> I've just updated to LibO 3.6.1 and hit the following problem when
>>> trying to access my address book
>>>
>>> Does anyone recognise it, Google doesn't?
>>> ___
>>>
>>> The attempt to load the file resulted in the following error message
>>> (com.sun.star.lang.IllegalArgumentException):
>>>
>>> Unsupported URL 
>>> ___
>>>
>>>
>>> Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
>>> Java 1.7_06 (and 05)
>>>
>>> All was well with LibO 3.6.0 and Java 1.7_05 just prior to the upgrade,
>>> carried out by complete removal of 3.6.0 via Synaptic and clean
>>> installation of the "real" product, downloaded from the LibreOffice web
>>> site via dpkg -iR
>>
>> Interestingly everything is fine on a 32 bit installation!
>>
>>
>
> Hi,
> Since many years I use to update my office suites without removal. All major 
> versions (OOo 1 and 2, LibO and OOo 3) are separate applications with 
> separated profile folders anyway.
> Any problems (if any) are related to the user profile which can be reset by 
> renaming a folder. Within the profile issues, the installed extensions are 
> the major culprit (but not the ones I use to have installed). So I extract 
> the downloaded archive, change to the extracted directory/DEBS and run
> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
> If I want that version to be the default program with menu and everything I 
> change to the desktop-integration subdirectory and install that package too.
> If I do not want that version to be the default program I add a couple of my 
> own desktop links to the respective executables. There were times when I had 
> OOo 1.1.5, 2.4.3, 3.4beta, LibO 3.3 and 3.5.x installed in parallel without 
> any problem.
>
> Problems that come up quite frequently on this list are not the normal case. 
> It is designed to be update out of the box, particularly on Linux.
> Just my 2 Cents,
> A.S.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Norton used to be completely awesome.  Everything they did was totally amazing 
and extremely useful.  Then they became corporate and serious.  

Nowadays i use AVG or something else but still when a threat is publicised as 
being particularly nasty and i suspect one of the machines i deal with might 
have fallen foul of it i still find Symantec a good place to research into it.  

One of the first jobs of a threat is to knock-out or dodge all known security 
so any of the big and famous antivirus' is likely to useless against any decent 
threat.  Luckily most threats are fairly trivial so even the big and famous 
antivirus programs can probably deal with it.  If it's non-trivial then there 
is always the option to nuke your Bios and reinstall your OS.  Still now that 
AVG is so famous i'm starting to consider other options.  

Regards from
Tom :)  



--- On Thu, 30/8/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P  wrote:

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 2:27

On 08/29/2012 08:21 PM, Dan wrote:
> Jeff Hahn wrote:
>> When I try to upgrade from 3.6.0 to 3.6.1 the Norton AntiVirus program
>> keeps deleting the upgrade as an unsafe virus. This is the first release
>> that I have had this type of problem with. Jeff
>> 
> 
>      To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download file?
>      Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the 
>upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
> Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO update, 
> turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you reconnect to 
> the Internet.
> 
> --Dan
> 

This is not the first time I have heard of Norton stating valid install files 
were viruses or other nasties.

I never had any good luck with Norton's AV, so I use the free version of Comodo 
product[s] for my Windows machines.  I have hooked even PC repair and selling 
pro's to using it.

As for not having AV running when not online, well that is not what I would 
tell people.  An anti-virus is needed if you are offline and suddenly there is 
a trojan or other nasty kicking in and doing a number.  They can be picked up 
and not cleaned in a few ways other than being online.  I have my Ubuntu system 
picking up new things from files that I have had on my system for months and 
suddenly it detects something the AV system does not like.  If I did not have 
the AV system on 24/7, then those issues might not have been picked up.  The 
real thing is that the AV systems update their data systems, mostly, after a 
new "nasty" has been detected.  If your system has that "nasty" on it before 
that nasty has been added to your AV data system, then you will need to have 
the other parts of the AV and security system[s] on to detect the traces of it 
trying to work.  SO do not turn your computer security off.

I have had to deal with too many systems from friends and clients where they 
did not have their security on 24/7 and kept up-to-date.  Had one system that 
the AV was on but not updated in over 2 years and the guy lost a lot.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I vaguely remember Norton updated their virus-definitions on Thursdays so i 
would schedule a look-for-updates for Fridays.  Of course MS do their updates 
on Tuesdays (="Patch Tuesday") so Norton/Symantec might have changed in the 
last decade or so.  

Of course if either find a particularly nasty problem then they do sometimes 
push patches or whatever out on a different day but it's fairly rare.  Of 
course an ISP might delay updates for a day or 2 so your machine might 
regularly get them a day or few later but i think by being regular MS and 
others have given ISPs a chance of knowing when they might get spikes so that 
those can be planned for easily.  

I still don't get why Windows doesn't have a package-manager that just updates 
everything all in one go instead of each different program being forced to 
set-up it's own separate method of keeping things up to date.  Also i never 
had/have confidence in any machine having fully updated drivers and codecs and 
everything.  Windows appears to be carefully built to be insecure.

Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Thu, 30/8/12, Dan  wrote:

From: Dan 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 3:14

webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
> On 08/29/2012 08:21 PM, Dan wrote:
>> Jeff Hahn wrote:
>>> When I try to upgrade from 3.6.0 to 3.6.1 the Norton AntiVirus program
>>> keeps deleting the upgrade as an unsafe virus. This is the first release
>>> that I have had this type of problem with. Jeff
>>> 
>> 
>>      To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download file?
>>      Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the
>> upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
>> Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO update,
>> turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you reconnect
>> to the Internet.
>> 
>> --Dan
>> 
> 
> This is not the first time I have heard of Norton stating valid install
> files were viruses or other nasties.
> 
> I never had any good luck with Norton's AV, so I use the free version of
> Comodo product[s] for my Windows machines.  I have hooked even PC repair
> and selling pro's to using it.
> 
> As for not having AV running when not online, well that is not what I would
> tell people.  An anti-virus is needed if you are offline and suddenly there
> is a trojan or other nasty kicking in and doing a number.  They can be
> picked up and not cleaned in a few ways other than being online.  I have my
> Ubuntu system picking up new things from files that I have had on my system
> for months and suddenly it detects something the AV system does not like.
> If I did not have the AV system on 24/7, then those issues might not have
> been picked up.  The real thing is that the AV systems update their data
> systems, mostly, after a new "nasty" has been detected.  If your system has
> that "nasty" on it before that nasty has been added to your AV data system,
> then you will need to have the other parts of the AV and security system[s]
> on to detect the traces of it trying to work.  SO do not turn your computer
> security off.
> 
> I have had to deal with too many systems from friends and clients where
> they did not have their security on 24/7 and kept up-to-date.  Had one
> system that the AV was on but not updated in over 2 years and the guy lost
> a lot.

     Perhaps I was not as clear as I should have been. I listed 5 steps that 
have been posted on lists like these when installing OOo. Programs like Norton 
will give false positives that prevent installation of a program. So, the AV 
program needs to be off when the installation is being done. However, the AV 
program should NOT be turned off until AFTER the computer is physically 
disconnected from the Internet. The installation should be done immediately 
after turning off the AV. The AV should be turned on again right after 
finishing the installation. At this point, verification that the AV is actually 
working is the next step. If it is not, steps have to be taken to get the AV 
working properly before doing anything else. Once this is done, reconnect to 
the Internet. My point was that the computer should not be connected to the 
Internet until AFTER the person knows that the AV is already working.
     Yes, anyone using an AV should weekly update it, sooner if there is a 
notice of an update because of a patch that is needed.

--Dan


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Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock

2012-08-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  
Ok, 2 scenarios.  
1.  A desperately slow machine (probably Windows).  Double-clicking a file 
doesn't seem to open it, not entirely convinced it was a proper double-click so 
double-click again.  At last it opens and you make a lot of changes, and go off 
to grab a cuppa tea.  back at the computer you are not sure if you saved the 
document and even tho your fairly sure you closed it it still seems to be open 
so you save again and quit.  Later you open the document to find NONE of your 
changes have been saved.  Why?  

2.  On a swift machine with multiple workspaces you want 2 copies of the file 
open, one to edit and the other on a different workspace to copy info from or 
as a look-up source.  After a ton of editing you get a phone call and switch 
workspaces to look-up stuff from various open files to deal with the call.  A 
few distractions later and you get back to the machine and save and close the 
open document and shut-down the machine.  Next day you find NONE of your edits 
were saved.  Why?


I'm sure you can imagine a ton of situations where something could easily occur 
in your own place where you might not be 100% focused and infallible on an 
infallible machine.  

Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Thu, 30/8/12, anne-ology  wrote:

From: anne-ology 
Subject: Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock
To: "MiguelAngel" 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 3:17

       Huh ???

       Well, (1) these ~lock files do appear when the file is open -
                        that's what's frustrating; when it begins to slow
down, I check & discover this inane file has appeared.

       (2) I do NOT understand why I should place the file away from the
computer's HD before its completed?;
              once completed I copy it to an external HD, but still retain
it on the computer's HD.

       (3) I do NOT understand why I, the sole user of this machine, would
not have access to do whatever I wish with this machine  ;-)
              and the more these machines change, the more I think I should
pitch them out the window and return to the 'horse & buggy' era  ;-)

       A bug or not a bug ... a bug by any other name would be the same ...
            which reminds me of these silly acronyms - there were wasps -
still are - flitting around the woods ... then there were WASPs following
the AAC in WWII ... then there were WASPs - according to the '60s media -
along with other groups back-then.
       [and that's just 1 example of how acronyms can become confusing  ;-)]



On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 7:05 PM, MiguelAngel wrote:


> Asunto: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.6 Calc Problem / ~lock
> Fecha: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:23:17 -0500
> De: anne-ology 
> A: Tom 
> CC: Steve , users@global.libreoffice.org
>
>
>        Thanks for your response -
>
>        unfortunately, it does NOT go away;
>            sometimes, I've found several of these ~lock files  ;-(
> --**--
>
> I've only seen this issue when the file is not closed properly.
> For example remove the memory stick with files opened.
> A program crash.
> Or maybe do not have rights to delete in that directory.
>
>

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus

2012-08-30 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 30.08.2012 02:21, Dan wrote:


  To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download file?
  Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the
upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either.
Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO
update, turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you
reconnect to the Internet.

--Dan



And you do the above steps only if you are very sure that you downloaded 
and verified the download from libreoffice.org/download .
You find the md5 hash to verifiy your download when you click the "Info" 
link besides the "Torrent" link on libreoffice.org/download.




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