Re: [libreoffice-users] Calendar software

2013-04-16 Thread lordmax tdf

HI

Il 15/04/2013 10:06, Dr. R. O Stapf ha scritto:

Unfortunately Thunderbird has no notes and does not synch with iPot.
This is my headache since a long time and forced to me to install again
an MSO product...



what is iPot?
Please tell us.

It seem strange that thunderbird has no notes 'cause I use them from 
about 5 years.

If you search in the add-on you can find over 130 possibility.

I think there are for sure a way to sync thunderbird with almost every 
other sistem





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base MySQL Native connector problems

2013-04-16 Thread Heinrich Stoellinger

On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 03:59:59 +0200, Girvin Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:



On 04/15/2013 04:31 PM, Dan Lewis wrote:

On 04/15/2013 05:53 PM, Girvin Herr wrote:

Greetings,
I am configuring a new Linux system with MySQL 5.5.29 and LibreOffice
3.6.5.2.  Since it is a new install, I figured I would try using the
MySQL (Native) connector for the first time. However, it did not
work.  Of the 3 selections {MySQL (JDBC), MySQL (Native), and MySQL
(ODBC), I selected the MySQL (Native) option, but when I selected the
tables icon and entered my password at the prompt, I got the following:

   The connection to the data source foobar could not be established.

   The connection to the external data source could not be established.
   No SDBC driver was found for the given URL.

When I clicked on the more information button, I got:

   SQL Status: HY000

and:

   A connection for the following URL was requested
   sdbc:mysql:mysqlc:localhost:3306/foobar.

Clearly I have a disconnect.  What is this SDBC driver I am being
told is missing?
Is this SDBC driver going to be any better than the JDBC driver I had
been using?

I was under the impression that to use the Native connection, all was
supplied with LO and I would not need any other drivers.  I can
always go back to the mysql-connector-java driver (JDBC), but I was
hoping the LO native driver could work better.

Thanks in advance.
Girvin Herr

 I have been able to use the AOO version of MySQL Connector 1.0.1
for LO 3.5.x through 3.6.6.2. There seems to be a secrete: you must
also install these files: libmysqlclient18 and libmysqlcppconn5. After
installing them and MySQL Connector 1.0.1, you should be able to
connect to a MySQL Server. One more point, if you have been using
JDBC MySQL connector, you must remove it from the Class Path (Tools 
Options  LibreOffice  Java  Class Path. This works for me using
Ubuntu 12.04 32 and 64 bit.
 The LO native driver was built with LO 4.0.0 so it will only work
for 4.0.0 and above. The previous paragraph is for those who do not
want to use 4.0.x until many of the bugs have been eliminated.

--Dan



Okay.
So, the Native driver only works on 4.x.  So much for that.
I just re-packaged Mysql-connector-java 5.1.18, which LO found, but LO
needs to be restarted and I don't want to do that until I power up again
tomorrow.  I have 5 open files and it is a pita closing and reopening
them.  Yes, I am lazy.  So, the final test will have to wait until tomorrow.
Thanks for the help.
Girvin Herr




Hello from sunny Salzburg,
...The previous paragraph is for those who do not
want to use 4.0.x until many of the bugs have been eliminated.
I have tried 4.0.2 on my Debian-Wheezy- and Mint Linux systems. For production
purposes I have gone back to 3.6.5. The main reason is that - while the Native
MySQL Connector DOES work on 4.0.2 - in my mind the Report Builder is not yet
usable. For example, it ignores font specifications and sometimes positions
data wrongly within defined fields (eg. top and not middle as specified in the
field definition). Something must be wrong in the way LO 4.0 interefaces to the
Report Builder, seeing as the latter works o.k. under 3.6
Regards
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[libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux

2013-04-16 Thread Dries Feys
Hi all,

This is way of topic, but as there are many linux adepts over
here, I wonder what software you use to rip cd's to mp3. (or ogg
vorbis, but I prefer mp3 as that's supported on more hardware than
ogg)

On windows, I used to use iTunes, which recognised (through cddb, or
whatever sony made it now) nearly all cd's, also the less common like
folk music (Bal O'Gadjo, Embrun,...) On ubuntu, those cd's are rarely
recognised.

The final goal is to rate the songs with stars (or another symbol)
like in Itunes, and then be able to export a best-of to my collection
to my cell phone, tablet and/or usb-stick.

Are there some packages I should install to have those cd's
recognised, or what should I do?

TIA,

Dries

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calendar software

2013-04-16 Thread Don Parris
Hi all,

Kontact is KDE's Outlook competitor and the latest (experimental) version
can be found here:
https://wiki.kolab.org/Client_windows_kontact

Kontact even offers a Summary page like Outlook (if you like that).  It
should be worth a look.  I tried Digikam on Windows (briefly) and it seemed
to work just fine.  They gave us new PCs at work and prohibit us from
installing anything anymore, or I would still have it.  My point is that
Kontact probably will work fairly well, even if KDE devs claim it is
experimental.  I really like Kontact and feel like I would be lost without
it.


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:20 AM, lordmax tdf lordmax-...@email.it wrote:

 HI

 Il 15/04/2013 10:06, Dr. R. O Stapf ha scritto:

  Unfortunately Thunderbird has no notes and does not synch with iPot.
 This is my headache since a long time and forced to me to install again
 an MSO product...


 what is iPot?
 Please tell us.

 It seem strange that thunderbird has no notes 'cause I use them from about
 5 years.
 If you search in the add-on you can find over 130 possibility.

 I think there are for sure a way to sync thunderbird with almost every
 other sistem





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Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux

2013-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Rhythmbox is supposed to be quite good.  I like Brasero too but i think that is 
slightly different.  Brasero might let you make an iso file on your hard-drive 
so that you have a back-up copy of the Cd/Dvd and can play it as though it 
really is a Cd/Dvd.  The ultra latest stuff tends to have some security to try 
to prevent it but their security usually fails even without actually 'hacking' 
it (they mean cracking).  

Continuing to assume these are Cd/Dvds that you own, have you tried just 
playing them?  If you put the Cd/Dvd in and just double-slick on it it should 
start just playing.  That pulls it into Rhythmbox (or whatever) and that will 
probably let you copy or move the track to another place, like your music 
folder.  

All this ripping and stuff sounds quite tiring and complicated.  Dragdrop or 
copypaste might be easier.  I haven't read these links but they look like 
reputable sources.  My fav is the 2nd link (i actually did manage to read 'all 
the way through' that one)
http://askubuntu.com/questions/6392/how-rhythmbox-music-management-works
https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/music-extract.html
https://answers.launchpad.net/rb-fileorganizer/+question/182527
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1526841

Notice that Ubuntu has a lot of the same support forums that LibreOffice has. 
 We have an AskLO and the proper forums are about to go live any month now.  

We don't generally have much documentation on the official TDF or LibreOffice 
websites (like this at the Rhythmbox site
https://live.gnome.org/RhythmboxPlugins/ThirdParty
although there is an Faq on 'ours'.  We tend to use a Wiki instead because it's 
easier to update and more people updating it or rewording it helps capture 
inspiration even from non-English speakers and then smooth things out into 
better English later.   

There is another general GnuLinux forum at
http://www.linuxquestions.org

It is off-topic for this emailing list but heck, why not just ask!  No harm 
done :)  We could probably help with soem Windows or Mac or Android issues too 
tbh because when you start using GnuLinux you learn a lot about other systems 
quite fast even if it's just from other people showing off and trying to tell 
you why their system is better (even tho it isn't, they all have pros and cons)
Regards from 
Tom :)  







 From: Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 8:25
Subject: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux
 

Hi all,

This is way of topic, but as there are many linux adepts over
here, I wonder what software you use to rip cd's to mp3. (or ogg
vorbis, but I prefer mp3 as that's supported on more hardware than
ogg)

On windows, I used to use iTunes, which recognised (through cddb, or
whatever sony made it now) nearly all cd's, also the less common like
folk music (Bal O'Gadjo, Embrun,...) On ubuntu, those cd's are rarely
recognised.

The final goal is to rate the songs with stars (or another symbol)
like in Itunes, and then be able to export a best-of to my collection
to my cell phone, tablet and/or usb-stick.

Are there some packages I should install to have those cd's
recognised, or what should I do?

TIA,

Dries

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Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux

2013-04-16 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:25:29 +0100 (BST)
Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 Rhythmbox is supposed to be quite good.  I like Brasero too but i
 think that is slightly different.  Brasero might let you make an iso
 file on your hard-drive so that you have a back-up copy of the Cd/Dvd
 and can play it as though it really is a Cd/Dvd.  The ultra latest
 stuff tends to have some security to try to prevent it but their
 security usually fails even without actually 'hacking' it (they mean
 cracking).  
 
 Continuing to assume these are Cd/Dvds that you own, have you tried
 just playing them?  If you put the Cd/Dvd in and just double-slick on
 it it should start just playing.  That pulls it into Rhythmbox (or
 whatever) and that will probably let you copy or move the track to
 another place, like your music folder.  
 
 All this ripping and stuff sounds quite tiring and complicated.
 Dragdrop or copypaste might be easier.  I haven't read these links
 but they look like reputable sources.  My fav is the 2nd link (i
 actually did manage to read 'all the way through' that one)
 http://askubuntu.com/questions/6392/how-rhythmbox-music-management-works
 https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/music-extract.html
 https://answers.launchpad.net/rb-fileorganizer/+question/182527
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1526841
 
 Notice that Ubuntu has a lot of the same support forums that
 LibreOffice has.  We have an AskLO and the proper forums are about to
 go live any month now.  
 
 We don't generally have much documentation on the official TDF or
 LibreOffice websites (like this at the Rhythmbox site
 https://live.gnome.org/RhythmboxPlugins/ThirdParty although there is
 an Faq on 'ours'.  We tend to use a Wiki instead because it's easier
 to update and more people updating it or rewording it helps capture
 inspiration even from non-English speakers and then smooth things
 out into better English later.   
 
 There is another general GnuLinux forum at
 http://www.linuxquestions.org
 
 It is off-topic for this emailing list but heck, why not just ask!
 No harm done :)  We could probably help with soem Windows or Mac or
 Android issues too tbh because when you start using GnuLinux you
 learn a lot about other systems quite fast even if it's just from
 other people showing off and trying to tell you why their system is
 better (even tho it isn't, they all have pros and cons) Regards from
 Tom :)  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 8:25
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux
  
 
 Hi all,
 
 This is way of topic, but as there are many linux adepts over
 here, I wonder what software you use to rip cd's to mp3. (or ogg
 vorbis, but I prefer mp3 as that's supported on more hardware than
 ogg)
 
 On windows, I used to use iTunes, which recognised (through cddb, or
 whatever sony made it now) nearly all cd's, also the less common like
 folk music (Bal O'Gadjo, Embrun,...) On ubuntu, those cd's are rarely
 recognised.
 
 The final goal is to rate the songs with stars (or another symbol)
 like in Itunes, and then be able to export a best-of to my collection
 to my cell phone, tablet and/or usb-stick.
 
 Are there some packages I should install to have those cd's
 recognised, or what should I do?
 
 TIA,
 
 Dries
 
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You Could try grip  a gnome program  but i use it with the latest KDE
4  allows you to choose the riped file format i use flac normally ..


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base MySQL Native connector problems

2013-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
There is not much chance of getting a response but is there any chance of you 
posting those problems as bug-reports against Base?  It might really help them 
to know the problems are regressions that don't appear in the 3.6.x branch.  

Regards from 

Tom :)  






 From: Heinrich Stoellinger hc.stoellin...@aon.at

snip /


Hello from sunny Salzburg,
...The previous paragraph is for those who do not
want to use 4.0.x until many of the bugs have been eliminated.
I have tried 4.0.2 on my Debian-Wheezy- and Mint Linux systems. For 
production
purposes I have gone back to 3.6.5. The main reason is that - while the Native
MySQL Connector DOES work on 4.0.2 - in my mind the Report Builder is not yet
usable. For example, it ignores font specifications and sometimes positions
data wrongly within defined fields (eg. top and not middle as specified in the
field definition). Something must be wrong in the way LO 4.0 interefaces to the
Report Builder, seeing as the latter works o.k. under 3.6
Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc does not remember formatting

2013-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Obviously what should happen is that 

1.  you change the formatting of the cells
2.  you save the document
3.  whenever you open the newly saved document the formatting works and the 
cell's contents appear red

I don't understand why step 3 is not working.  
Apols and regards from 

Tom :)  







 From: William Drago wdr...@gmail.com
To: 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 5:10
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc does not remember formatting
 


Renaming (or deleting) my profile does not fix the problem. 
Thanks for the suggestion though.

-Bill

On 4/15/2013 7:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 That all sounds horribly wrong, except for the odd 1 part 
 where it does actually work.

 Can you try renaming your User Profile to see if that 
 fixes that problem?
 Regards from
 Tom :)


     
     *From:* William Drago wdr...@gmail.com
     *To:* users@global.libreoffice.org
     *Sent:* Sunday, 14 April 2013, 11:48
     *Subject:* [libreoffice-users] Calc does not remember
     formatting

     All,

     I am using LO 4.0.2.2 on Windows 7.

     In Calc when I format cells so that negative numbers
     are red they won't be red next time I open the
     spreadsheet. The only way to make them red again is to
     recalculate those cells. Of course, when I save and
     re-open the spreadsheet the formatting is gone again.

     Thanks,
     -Bill


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem

2013-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
They do and it does. :D  

This mega pixel malarky is hilarious.  Everyone else is racing to get more 
and more mega-pixels (is 12 or 16 mega-pixels the standard issue now?) so that 
they can have more noise and distortions and file-sizes like a herd of 
elephants trying to stampeded down my phone-line.  One company is trying to 
market a 4 Mega-pixels camera that gives a better quality image by not adding 
in random fuzziness.  However everyone is going to say this 16 megapixels MUST 
be better than 4 right?  4 is old isn't it?.  meanwhile we getting stunning 
photos of Mars done on  'old' 2 megapixels cameras.  It wouldn't be quite so 
bad if mega-pixel really meant anything.  It clearly does NOT mean 1,000 
pixels (or 1,024 in computers)
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 2:45
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem
 

On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 Most on-line dictionaries (in the top 10 according to a google search) agree 
 that 
 A neologism is a newly coined term, word, or 
 phrase, that may be in the process of entering common use, but has not 
 yet been accepted into mainstream
 but my fav is Mirriam-Webster's bucking the trend amusingly
 a meaningless word coined by a psychotic.

 Even though it is not apt it's still quietly amusing, to me at 
 least, sorry Felmon bud! :)

no problem but seriously, if the people in the telly were constantly 
sending _you_ neologisms, don't pretend it wouldn't unsettle you a bit 
too.

F.

 Regards from Tom :) 






 
 From: Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
 Sent: Monday, 15 April 2013, 21:59
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem
 

 On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, anne-ology wrote:

        very interesting, yes indeed  ;-)

        well, the more I read this list, 'the more I seem to learn, yet the
 stupider I feel'  ;-)
                (the glorified typewriter has so surpassed me)

        I note you've used a 'new' word; acronymonious seems to fit well in
 this saga -
            yet I hope you didn't mis-type acrimonious  ;-)
                (oh, surely not)

 I did not mistype. I went neologistic on you.

 F.




 On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote:

 On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, anne-ology wrote:

         yikes, sounds as if I need further information -
            or need to keep studying ... ... ...  ;-)


 not sure how the further discussion would be relevant to you if you just
 want to use the tool. the link I gave you explains the things pdftk can 
 do.
 you can then decide if it might be useful.

 the next step is to determine if you find it convenient to use.

 of course, if you are also interested in how the tool is built, then
 that's a different matter.


         Please update re. this / these tks whenever; I'll stay tuned  ;-)

        Ah, acronyms  ;-)
            tk := 
 http://www.acronymfinder.com/**TK.htmlhttp://www.acronymfinder.com/TK.html
        (well, while waiting to understand all this, my mind tends to 
 wander
 - puns are so much fun  :-)  )


 don't mean to be acronymonious about it but all disciplines and
 occupations use abbreviations and have specialist dictionaries -
 general-purpose dictionaries won't do.

 F.




 On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote:

 On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Girvin Herr wrote:


   Felmon,

 Looks like pdftk is written in Java.

   
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pdftkhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Pdftk
 https://en.wikipedia.**org/wiki/Pdftkhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pdftk



 So the gui (Graphical User Interface) is whatever the Java Runtime
 Environment (JRE) interfaces with.  From my experience, it isn't 
 pretty,
 but functional.

 I noticed there are some other source files and some 3rd-party code in
 the package that I did not take time to investigate, and it takes Gcc 
 to
 build it.  But one of the big ideas of Java is that it contains its own
 gui
 code, so the programmer's effort is greatly reduced.  I would be
 surprised
 if pdftk does not use the standard Java gui.
 Girvin Herr


 good to know, especially about the '3rd-party code'.

 makes sense the gui would be in java so it can run on various platforms.

 I don't however foresee myself invoking the gui unless I'm working off 
 of
 Windows or something.

 I'll look but I bet there's a command-line version for Windows too.

 F.




 On 04/13/2013 11:24 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:

   On Sat, 13 Apr 2013, Tom Davies wrote:

   snip


   I'm only familiar with pdftk as a command-line tool; thus I was
 confused
 by the discussion of desktop environments.

 it does have a gui interface (or several?) and then there are the
 Windows and Mac versions. I don't know what is used to make the gui
 interface on Linux.

 Felmon

   snip




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc does not remember formatting

2013-04-16 Thread Pedro
Hi all

For some odd reason this email from Miguel Ángel hasn't been accepted by the
mailing list...

I think his answer solves the puzzle.

Cheers,
Pedro


mariosv wrote
 Hi William,
 
 there is a bug report with several duplicates:
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60215
 
 you can get the proper format after open the file, with a hard recalc
 Shift+Ctrl+F9.
 
 Miguel Ángel.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with inserting text using the apostrophe

2013-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ctrl z
is the keyboard short-cut for 
Edit - Undo
or 
Right-click - undo
and works in almost every app or program and even online for a lot of things

Ctrl y 
is often redo but doesn't work quite so widely.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com
To: Kieran Peckett crazyske...@gmail.com 
Cc: Oscar os...@keysbabo.com; users@global.libreoffice.org 
users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 0:56
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with inserting text using the 
apostrophe
 

Hi.
This came up last year, 
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg23591.html
Strange thing is that it works with numbers ('123). Can't figure out the 
CTL-Z thing though.
steve

On 2013-04-16 04:29, Kieran Peckett wrote:
 I also have this problem - I have reported the bug here:
 https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=63563 I suggest that
 you add yourself to CC if you can so that you can respond to questions
 about the bug.


 On 15 April 2013 08:41, Oscar os...@keysbabo.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I have this problem in LibreOffice. if I write in a cell

 '=example

 the apostrophe is displayed in the cell

 '=example

 and not

 =example

 as in Excel or OpenOffice (I get the same problem if I write 'ABC or
 something else)

 Doesn't it work the apostrophe in LibreOffice? I tried different versions
 of LibreOffice and I have always the same problem. Why?

 Please help me. Have a nice day
 Oscar


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calendar software

2013-04-16 Thread James Knott

lordmax tdf wrote:

what is iPot?
Please tell us.


Maybe Apple is getting into cooking utensils.  ;-)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux

2013-04-16 Thread James Knott

Dries Feys wrote:

This is way of topic, but as there are many linux adepts over
here, I wonder what software you use to rip cd's to mp3. (or ogg
vorbis, but I prefer mp3 as that's supported on more hardware than
ogg)


I use K3b, which comes with the KDE desktop.  I can write both mp3 and 
ogg, though you have to add a codec for mp3, IIRC.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc does not remember formatting

2013-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Nicely found! :)  Possibly Miguel Angel has not quite subscribed or not yet 
been fully accepted.  Hopefully he can finish the process himself rather than 
wait.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Pedro pedl...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 12:11
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc does not remember formatting
 

Hi all

For some odd reason this email from Miguel Ángel hasn't been accepted by the
mailing list...

I think his answer solves the puzzle.

Cheers,
Pedro


mariosv wrote
 Hi William,
 
 there is a bug report with several duplicates:
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60215
 
 you can get the proper format after open the file, with a hard recalc
 Shift+Ctrl+F9.
 
 Miguel Ángel.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux

2013-04-16 Thread Dries Feys
Thanks all for your responses.

Yes, I have the original cd's, but my question is not which
application I can use for playback. I have very good results with
exaile, but tend to fallback to my nexus7 which is easier to use when
friends are with me.

My main question is rather to know why the id tags are recognised in
iTunes, while they are not on any of the linux rippers, causing a lot
of administration to type the tracknames  group names manually,
instead of the plug  rip which is offered by iTunes.

Dries




On 16 April 2013 14:25, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote:

 Dries Feys wrote:

 This is way of topic, but as there are many linux adepts over
 here, I wonder what software you use to rip cd's to mp3. (or ogg
 vorbis, but I prefer mp3 as that's supported on more hardware than
 ogg)


 I use K3b, which comes with the KDE desktop.  I can write both mp3 and ogg, 
 though you have to add a codec for mp3, IIRC.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux

2013-04-16 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 04/16/2013 03:25 AM, Dries Feys wrote:

Hi all,

This is way of topic, but as there are many linux adepts over
here, I wonder what software you use to rip cd's to mp3. (or ogg
vorbis, but I prefer mp3 as that's supported on more hardware than
ogg)

On windows, I used to use iTunes, which recognised (through cddb, or
whatever sony made it now) nearly all cd's, also the less common like
folk music (Bal O'Gadjo, Embrun,...) On ubuntu, those cd's are rarely
recognised.

The final goal is to rate the songs with stars (or another symbol)
like in Itunes, and then be able to export a best-of to my collection
to my cell phone, tablet and/or usb-stick.

Are there some packages I should install to have those cd's
recognised, or what should I do?

TIA,

Dries



Yes it is way off topic.

You want to take all your Audio CDs and make them into MP3 files, yes?

I have Ubuntu 12.04.  I have installed Ripper X, Asunder CD Ripper, and 
a few others.


I would see what rippers are available with your Linux distro and try a 
few. I have not used a Linux one in a few years, since I ripped all my 
CDs years ago and keep the MP3 file on my massive audio folders.


To be honest, I do not know which one does the stars option you wish.

As for CD's being recognized, that is a different issue. Are you 
saying that your Linux system is not able to play audio CDs?  That 
sounds like a hardware problem, since every distro of Linux I have used 
include the needed drivers and packages for reading audio CDs.


Are you saying that you place your CD in the drive and open the audio 
package and the CD and song information are not found and displayed?  
That is a problem with the database being used to look up the CD info 
online. For playing your CDs on Linux and Windows, try VLC.  They have a 
really good system and they have access to a service that will look your 
CDinfo up online.  To be honest, if you run Windows Vista, VLC is the 
preferred package since it included all of the codexoption you would 
need that Vista does not provide.  But, if you have a CD that is not 
part of a large publishing house, it may not get included in the online 
database. That is just life of a small run CD by obscure artists.


So try Asunder CD Ripper and VLC player.

I use VLC media player on all my systems as a default install. Linux and 
Windows [XP through Win7]



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Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux

2013-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Good point about the codecs!  I usually ruin through Medibuntu to get all the 
extra codecs and things from them 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
and then install mplayer and vlc player to get the last remaining ones.  


Also i generally try to run through these now.  I know it's command-line rather 
than pointclick but i find it oddly easier for these.  I'm sure there is some 
fancy linuxy way of adding all the commands together (especially those last 3!) 
but i keep each on a separate line in case i want to ignore 1 or 2.  

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ppa
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-xbmc 
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jonoomph/openshot-edge 
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak
sudo apt-get install xbmc
sudo apt-get install openshot openshot-doc

but never really get the chance to do much movie editing with OpenShot.  Xmbc 
is an excellent movie player so i get it to use.  I still do get Mplayer and 
Vlc though because they are good for odd things, like playing stuff from phones 
if Xbmc refuses or makes it confusing.  Mainly i get Vlc and MPlayer because it 
forces a lot of codecs to be pulled in as dependencies.  There is a Restricted 
Extras page you can run through if you dont want so many players but it just 
makes things more complicated than just doing 

sudo apt-get install vlc mplayer
Regards from 
Tom :)







 From: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com
To: LibreOffice users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 13:25
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux
 

Dries Feys wrote:
 This is way of topic, but as there are many linux adepts over
 here, I wonder what software you use to rip cd's to mp3. (or ogg
 vorbis, but I prefer mp3 as that's supported on more hardware than
 ogg)

I use K3b, which comes with the KDE desktop.  I can write both mp3 and ogg, 
though you have to add a codec for mp3, IIRC.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux

2013-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Nice! :)  I had not thought of using Vlc as a media player, ie music too.  


Tbh though i think you are describing the old way of things from a couple of 
years ago.  There is a lot more out there now.  Rhythmbox is built in and 
probably even has an add-on for starring or rating music.  It's a dedicated 
music player and even gives easy access to a Music Store (confusingly also 
called Ubuntu One), various Radio (such as LibreFm, LastFm and others that can 
be user-defined), Podcasts and stuff.  

It's right there when you click on the speaker icon in Unity.  Simples
Regards from 

Tom :)  






 From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com; LibreO - Users Global 
users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 13:52
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux
 

On 04/16/2013 03:25 AM, Dries Feys wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 This is way of topic, but as there are many linux adepts over
 here, I wonder what software you use to rip cd's to mp3. (or ogg
 vorbis, but I prefer mp3 as that's supported on more hardware than
 ogg)
 
 On windows, I used to use iTunes, which recognised (through cddb, or
 whatever sony made it now) nearly all cd's, also the less common like
 folk music (Bal O'Gadjo, Embrun,...) On ubuntu, those cd's are rarely
 recognised.
 
 The final goal is to rate the songs with stars (or another symbol)
 like in Itunes, and then be able to export a best-of to my collection
 to my cell phone, tablet and/or usb-stick.
 
 Are there some packages I should install to have those cd's
 recognised, or what should I do?
 
 TIA,
 
 Dries
 

Yes it is way off topic.

You want to take all your Audio CDs and make them into MP3 files, yes?

I have Ubuntu 12.04.  I have installed Ripper X, Asunder CD Ripper, and a few 
others.

I would see what rippers are available with your Linux distro and try a few. I 
have not used a Linux one in a few years, since I ripped all my CDs years ago 
and keep the MP3 file on my massive audio folders.

To be honest, I do not know which one does the stars option you wish.

As for CD's being recognized, that is a different issue. Are you saying that 
your Linux system is not able to play audio CDs?  That sounds like a hardware 
problem, since every distro of Linux I have used include the needed drivers 
and packages for reading audio CDs.

Are you saying that you place your CD in the drive and open the audio package 
and the CD and song information are not found and displayed?  That is a 
problem with the database being used to look up the CD info online. For 
playing your CDs on Linux and Windows, try VLC.  They have a really good 
system and they have access to a service that will look your CDinfo up online. 
 To be honest, if you run Windows Vista, VLC is the preferred package since it 
included all of the codexoption you would need that Vista does not provide.  
But, if you have a CD that is not part of a large publishing house, it may not 
get included in the online database. That is just life of a small run CD by 
obscure artists.

So try Asunder CD Ripper and VLC player.

I use VLC media player on all my systems as a default install. Linux and 
Windows [XP through Win7]


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Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux

2013-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Typing manually!!!  


Is that something to do with old tags being id3 and new ones being id6?  
Something like that?  iTunes probably uses id6 and leaves the id3 empty and 
linux ones that you have been using probably use the id3 and ignore the id6s.  
Hmmm

Have you searched through your package manager yet?  It's good to get Synaptic 
Package Manager to handle fine-grained stuff like this.  The 1st couple of 
searches i tried gave me nothing useful but then i searched using music tags 
and got tons of things that looked worth trying;  

  

 * Guayadeque is a player that handles both/all types of tags and might be able 
to copypaste them fairly quickly so that each track has both types properly 
filled in.  

 * Clementine again a fast and light-weight one.  This says it's speciality is 
fast searching.  


 * Cowbell is a tag editor so hopefully you might be able to use it 
headlessly to copy your v6 tags into v4 format keeping both.  test on a small 
batch before committing yourself tho!

There are 3 command-line that might be powerful but i tend to avoid 
command-line if possible
1.  id3
2.  id3tool
3.  id4v2

Musiclibrarian is more about organising, i'm not sure if it plays at all.  

Sorune similarly

These 3 might be useful, hopefully the 1st one might do the job or make it very 
easy

1.  puddletag

2.  pyrenamer  (i use this for renaming srt subtitles for tele series when i 
want to watch the whole series at lowish volume to avoid disturbing the 
neighbours tooo much).  I didn't realise it can edit music tags too

3.  python-tagpy


Regards from 

Tom :)  






 From: Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com
To: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com 
Cc: LibreOffice users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 13:45
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux
 

Thanks all for your responses.

Yes, I have the original cd's, but my question is not which
application I can use for playback. I have very good results with
exaile, but tend to fallback to my nexus7 which is easier to use when
friends are with me.

My main question is rather to know why the id tags are recognised in
iTunes, while they are not on any of the linux rippers, causing a lot
of administration to type the tracknames  group names manually,
instead of the plug  rip which is offered by iTunes.

Dries




On 16 April 2013 14:25, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote:

 Dries Feys wrote:

 This is way of topic, but as there are many linux adepts over
 here, I wonder what software you use to rip cd's to mp3. (or ogg
 vorbis, but I prefer mp3 as that's supported on more hardware than
 ogg)


 I use K3b, which comes with the KDE desktop.  I can write both mp3 and ogg, 
 though you have to add a codec for mp3, IIRC.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Programmers are unable to extract pressed keys and text sequences in LibreOffice 4.x.

2013-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Have you been able to solve this already?  Did you get any answers?  Many 
apologies but i think the low traffic list went very quiet over Easter.  
Normally it relies on 1 or 2 total stars and if they are not around the rest of 
us feel a bit helpless.

I am forwarding this to the Users List just in case someone there can help
Apols and regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Olav Dahlum odah...@gmail.com
To: accessibil...@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 13:15
Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] Programmers are unable to extract pressed 
keys and text sequences in LibreOffice 4.x.
 

Software like Lingdys and Lingright from http://lingit.no/ are unable to
work with 4.x.
Torbjørn Norgård torbj...@lingit.no told me that no text sequences or
pressed keys can be extracted and thus the software are unable to assist
the user. I know that some older accessibility API's etc was removed, but
could someone shed some more light on this subject?

-- 
Olav Dahlum

PGP key ID: 0xA6BD1795


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Smooth edges of vector graphic objects turn into rough lines in PDF

2013-04-16 Thread gordom

W dniu 2013-04-15 17:33, anne-ology pisze:

Did it look as you desired in DRAW?
if so, then by exporting to PDF, all should be a-ok
(well, works for me)



Well, it's not OK, that's the problem. However in DRAW  WRITER (LO 4) 
the graphic looks as desired (the shape edges are smooth), after 
exporting into .pdf they become rough.


Just to illustrate:

From something like that in WRITER  


/==/
   /==/
  /==/
 /==/
/==/
   /==/
  /==/
 /==/
/==/
   /==/
  /==/
 /==/
/==/


I get this in .pdf

[==]
   [==]
  [==]
 [==]
[==]
   [==]
  [==]
 [==]
[==]
   [==]
  [==]
 [==]
[==]

Regards,
gordom



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calendar software

2013-04-16 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2013-04-16 8:22 AM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote:

lordmax tdf wrote:

what is iPot?
Please tell us.


Maybe Apple is getting into cooking utensils.  ;-)


Or getting ready for when hemp ie legalized in all 50 states *and* at 
the Federal level...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calendar software

2013-04-16 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2013-04-15 7:53 AM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote:

Dr. R. O Stapf wrote:

My dream is still Thunderbird with calendar, notes, tasks, contacts
which can be synched with iPot and all running on XP machine


I have no idea what iPot is, but with Thunderbird, Lightning and an
add-on called gContactSync , you can sync calendar, tasks and contacts
via a GMail account.  I use tasks every week, when I buy my groceries. I
maintain my list on Google calendar and it appears in the Tasks app on
my phone.  Syncing also works with Seamonkey.  So, no matter what I'm
using, computer, phone or tablet, Linux or Windows, Thunderbird or
Seamonkey, everything is synced.


Unfortunately, Lightning/Google Calendar Sync is totally broken when it 
comes to interacting with Meeting invitations with other people, so it 
is not an acceptable solution for anyone who needs to be able to do that.


For personal use, it works great though...

And yes, gContactSync rocks - if you don't mind all of your contacts 
being 'owned' forever by google...


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Fractions in Maths

2013-04-16 Thread C. H. D.
Hello! At last, I have submitted a proposal to include an AutoCorrect option to 
type fractions with horizontal lines, e.g.

12
___
13

 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63610


I need fractions as they are related to equations, e.g.
4a
__=4
9


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Fractions in Maths

2013-04-16 Thread Marc Grober
I am likely late to this thread, but why won't using
sqrt{4a^2 over 9} = +- {2a over 3}
as an LO formula work for you, or  using
\sqrt{\frac{4a^2}{9}}=\pm\frac{2a}{3}
in TexMath

While it would be grand to be able to simply have LO parse TeX (or your
math notation of preference), the two options above seem reasonable
compromises

On 4/16/13 8:23 AM, C. H. D. wrote:
 Hello! At last, I have submitted a proposal to include an AutoCorrect option 
 to type fractions with horizontal lines, e.g.

 12
 ___
 13

  
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63610


 I need fractions as they are related to equations, e.g.
 4a
 __=4
 9


 Regards,
 C. H. D.
 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux

2013-04-16 Thread Steve Edmonds


On 2013-04-17 00:52, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 04/16/2013 03:25 AM, Dries Feys wrote:

Hi all,

This is way of topic, but as there are many linux adepts over
here, I wonder what software you use to rip cd's to mp3. (or ogg
vorbis, but I prefer mp3 as that's supported on more hardware than
ogg)

On windows, I used to use iTunes, which recognised (through cddb, or
whatever sony made it now) nearly all cd's, also the less common like
folk music (Bal O'Gadjo, Embrun,...) On ubuntu, those cd's are rarely
recognised.

The final goal is to rate the songs with stars (or another symbol)
like in Itunes, and then be able to export a best-of to my collection
to my cell phone, tablet and/or usb-stick.

Are there some packages I should install to have those cd's
recognised, or what should I do?

TIA,

Dries



Yes it is way off topic.

You want to take all your Audio CDs and make them into MP3 files, yes?

I have Ubuntu 12.04.  I have installed Ripper X, Asunder CD Ripper, 
and a few others.


I would see what rippers are available with your Linux distro and try 
a few. I have not used a Linux one in a few years, since I ripped all 
my CDs years ago and keep the MP3 file on my massive audio folders.


To be honest, I do not know which one does the stars option you wish.

As for CD's being recognized, that is a different issue. Are you 
saying that your Linux system is not able to play audio CDs?  That 
sounds like a hardware problem, since every distro of Linux I have 
used include the needed drivers and packages for reading audio CDs.


Are you saying that you place your CD in the drive and open the audio 
package and the CD and song information are not found and displayed?  
That is a problem with the database being used to look up the CD info 
online. For playing your CDs on Linux and Windows, try VLC.  They have 
a really good system and they have access to a service that will look 
your CDinfo up online.  To be honest, if you run Windows Vista, VLC is 
the preferred package since it included all of the codexoption you 
would need that Vista does not provide.  But, if you have a CD that is 
not part of a large publishing house, it may not get included in the 
online database. That is just life of a small run CD by obscure artists.


So try Asunder CD Ripper and VLC player.

I use VLC media player on all my systems as a default install. Linux 
and Windows [XP through Win7]



With Grip (and others) the tags are added by looking the track up in a 
database. You insert the CD and Grip shows all the songs and info 
(artist, album, genre.) Some obscure CDs are not recognised, but you can 
add to the database to help others in future. You can edit tags if 
needed. I rip to PC at the best possible level, large files. I then run 
a script that creates a copy of my music at a lower level and much 
smaller size for inserting as sound tracks or use on portable devices 
that won't take 30GB of high quality music or in the car with lower 
quality output chips. I use mp3info to copy the tags to the resized files.

Steve


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Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux

2013-04-16 Thread Gabriel Risterucci
ogg is not lossless, but flac is. Anyway, if your starting quality is a CD,
no matter what you use if you go over 320kbps you'll get almost lossless
with any codec.

-- 
Cley Faye
http://cleyfaye.net


2013/4/16 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 How about flac or ogg?  Have you tried those for Jazz?  They should be
 lossless compression so in theory they should be fine.  My hearing isn't
 good enough tbh but if i play mp3s i don't bother to turn the volume up!
 Regards from
 Tom :)





 
  From: Joep L. Blom jlb...@neuroweave.nl
 To: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
 Cc: Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com; LibreO - Users Global 
 users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 22:05
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux
 
 
 Snip /
 
 
 
 One little remark: if your ears are critical and you have mainly
 classical and jazz CD's MP3 is not to be used. The effect of compression
 and reduction can clearly been heard (on a good sound system). It's OK
 for car-radio's (or music systems as they are called now) but not for
 good audio systems. Even CD-quality is not optimal. As a jazz-pianist I
 record everything in 24-bit and store it as .wav files and copy it to
 DVD's as they can handle 24-bit (of course for demo's I sample it down
 to 16-bit as CD'a are OK for demo's).
 For pop-music MP3 compression is OK of course.
 I know I'm maybe too critical but I like (certain kind of) music.
 Joep
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux

2013-04-16 Thread Steve Edmonds


On 2013-04-17 09:05, Joep L. Blom wrote:

On 16/04/13 14:52, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 04/16/2013 03:25 AM, Dries Feys wrote:

Hi all,

This is way of topic, but as there are many linux adepts over
here, I wonder what software you use to rip cd's to mp3. (or ogg
vorbis, but I prefer mp3 as that's supported on more hardware than
ogg)

On windows, I used to use iTunes, which recognised (through cddb, or
whatever sony made it now) nearly all cd's, also the less common like
folk music (Bal O'Gadjo, Embrun,...) On ubuntu, those cd's are rarely
recognised.

The final goal is to rate the songs with stars (or another symbol)
like in Itunes, and then be able to export a best-of to my collection
to my cell phone, tablet and/or usb-stick.

Are there some packages I should install to have those cd's
recognised, or what should I do?

TIA,

Dries



Yes it is way off topic.

You want to take all your Audio CDs and make them into MP3 files, yes?

I have Ubuntu 12.04.  I have installed Ripper X, Asunder CD Ripper, and
a few others.

I would see what rippers are available with your Linux distro and try a
few. I have not used a Linux one in a few years, since I ripped all my
CDs years ago and keep the MP3 file on my massive audio folders.

To be honest, I do not know which one does the stars option you wish.

As for CD's being recognized, that is a different issue. Are you
saying that your Linux system is not able to play audio CDs? That
sounds like a hardware problem, since every distro of Linux I have used
include the needed drivers and packages for reading audio CDs.

Are you saying that you place your CD in the drive and open the audio
package and the CD and song information are not found and displayed?
That is a problem with the database being used to look up the CD info
online. For playing your CDs on Linux and Windows, try VLC. They have a
really good system and they have access to a service that will look your
CDinfo up online.  To be honest, if you run Windows Vista, VLC is the
preferred package since it included all of the codexoption you would
need that Vista does not provide.  But, if you have a CD that is not
part of a large publishing house, it may not get included in the online
database. That is just life of a small run CD by obscure artists.

So try Asunder CD Ripper and VLC player.

I use VLC media player on all my systems as a default install. Linux and
Windows [XP through Win7]



One little remark: if your ears are critical and you have mainly 
classical and jazz CD's MP3 is not to be used. The effect of 
compression and reduction can clearly been heard (on a good sound 
system). It's OK for car-radio's (or music systems as they are called 
now) but not for good audio systems. Even CD-quality is not optimal. 
As a jazz-pianist I record everything in 24-bit and store it as .wav 
files and copy it to DVD's as they can handle 24-bit (of course for 
demo's I sample it down to 16-bit as CD'a are OK for demo's).

For pop-music MP3 compression is OK of course.
I know I'm maybe too critical but I like (certain kind of) music.
Joep


If only we could all get music at 24 bit. How fidelity has given way to 
convenience. Good pressing - itunes. SLR camera - phone camera.

Steve


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Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux

2013-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Thanks for being nice about it but i was just plain wrong.  I hadn't checked my 
facts and had just made an assumption which is usually a fairly dumb thing to 
do but can be fun
Thanks and regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Gabriel Risterucci cleyf...@gmail.com
To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: jlb...@neuroweave.nl jlb...@neuroweave.nl; LibreO - Users Global 
users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 22:32
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux
 


ogg is not lossless, but flac is. Anyway, if your starting quality is a CD, no 
matter what you use if you go over 320kbps you'll get almost lossless with 
any codec.


-- 
Cley Faye
http://cleyfaye.net


2013/4/16 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

Hi :)
How about flac or ogg?  Have you tried those for Jazz?  They should be 
lossless compression so in theory they should be fine.  My hearing isn't good 
enough tbh but if i play mp3s i don't bother to turn the volume up!

Regards from
Tom :) 






 From: Joep L. Blom jlb...@neuroweave.nl
To: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
Cc: Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com; LibreO - Users Global 
users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 22:05

Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux


Snip /




One little remark: if your ears are critical and you have mainly
classical and jazz CD's MP3 is not to be used. The effect of compression
and reduction can clearly been heard (on a good sound system). It's OK
for car-radio's (or music systems as they are called now) but not for
good audio systems. Even CD-quality is not optimal. As a jazz-pianist I
record everything in 24-bit and store it as .wav files and copy it to
DVD's as they can handle 24-bit (of course for demo's I sample it down
to 16-bit as CD'a are OK for demo's).
For pop-music MP3 compression is OK of course.
I know I'm maybe too critical but I like (certain kind of) music.
Joep


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Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux

2013-04-16 Thread Steve Edmonds


On 2013-04-17 09:32, Gabriel Risterucci wrote:

ogg is not lossless, but flac is. Anyway, if your starting quality is a CD,
no matter what you use if you go over 320kbps you'll get almost lossless
with any codec.

Having been lost for an hour on research on how I am encoding, it seem 
there may be more problems with the decoding of an mp3 where you could 
have less control unless it is your own pc.
When encoding you also need to research your encoder, not just the bit 
rates. Because mp3 throws something away to reduce size, it is what each 
encoder throws away that distinguishes it from the next. Then it becomes 
opinion and preference.

Steve


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Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux

2013-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  
Ahah, so it's time for someone to write an Android app or can they be just 
Plug-ins/Add-ons.Extensions?  Java not Python tho right? :(  (not that i know 
either!!)
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com
To: LibreOffice users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 22:16
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux
 

Joep L. Blom wrote:
 One little remark: if your ears are critical and you have mainly classical 
 and jazz CD's MP3 is not to be used.

The problem with that is many devices only play mp3.  I often play ogg on my 
phone and tablet, but my Blu-ray player and A/V receiver only play mp3.  It's 
a shame because there's an Android app for my A/V receiver that lets me play 
music from my tablet through it via WiFi.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux

2013-04-16 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


FLAC does not work on half of my audio playing devices, computer 
packages, blu-ray audio players, etc..


There can be a limitless debate over which is the best codex for the 
audio recording, but if you want the most, you use MP3.  Of course you 
set the MP3 encoder/ripper to the highest quality audio your package can 
handle.  I have many recordings that are listed at 320kbps.


So the best answer, for the most players would be MP3 at the highest 
quality.  For the best solution for a narrower device usage, it is a 
vary debatable topic that does not belong here.


The off topic question is getting much too off topic and not anything 
near LO.  So maybe if there is a need for more info, we could do some 
off list emailing.





On 04/16/2013 06:26 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Ahah, so it's time for someone to write an Android app or can they be just 
Plug-ins/Add-ons.Extensions?  Java not Python tho right? :(  (not that i know 
either!!)
Regards from
Tom :)







From: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com
To: LibreOffice users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 22:16
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] OT : good cd import software on linux


Joep L. Blom wrote:

One little remark: if your ears are critical and you have mainly classical and 
jazz CD's MP3 is not to be used.

The problem with that is many devices only play mp3.  I often play ogg on my 
phone and tablet, but my Blu-ray player and A/V receiver only play mp3.  It's a 
shame because there's an Android app for my A/V receiver that lets me play 
music from my tablet through it via WiFi.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fractions in Maths

2013-04-16 Thread C. H. D.
Hi! I think an interesting reason may justify the enhancement request. 


It is a matter of speed. For me, I need to use the keyboard very often. Typing 
Alt+I+O+F {2a over 3} (Esc) (Esc) (17 keys) is slower. Typing 2a/3 (space) (5 
keys) is faster.

 
(17-5)/17*100=70.59%

That is about 70 per cent of reduction in the number of keys I need to type 
(not using the mouse)! Amazing!

Regards,
C. H. D.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 












 寄件人︰ Marc Grober m...@interak.com
收件人︰ users@global.libreoffice.org 
傳送日期︰ 2013年04月17日 (週三) 1:51 AM
主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Fractions in Maths
 

I am likely late to this thread, but why won't using
sqrt{4a^2 over 9} = +- {2a over 3}
as an LO formula work for you, or  using
\sqrt{\frac{4a^2}{9}}=\pm\frac{2a}{3}
in TexMath

While it would be grand to be able to simply have LO parse TeX (or your
math notation of preference), the two options above seem reasonable
compromises

On 4/16/13 8:23 AM, C. H. D. wrote:
 Hello! At last, I have submitted a proposal to include an AutoCorrect option 
 to type fractions with horizontal lines, e.g.

 12
 ___
 13

  
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63610


 I need fractions as they are related to equations, e.g.
 4a
 __=4
 9


 Regards,
 C. H. D.
 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Web Hosting?

2013-04-16 Thread anne-ology
   Can PPs be posted on UTube?



On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi :)
 YouTube?
 Regards from
 Tom :)

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 *Sent:* Monday, 15 April 2013, 16:14
 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Web Hosting?

   To whom is your targeted market?,
 is this PP for the masses or for some select group - business-
 or social-wise?
   how do you plan to use this PP?, or is it merely to be on-line for
 the duration?

   There are various options - from sending out via e-mail as an
 attachment or a link ... to posting on the various sites which allow such
 [per example, re. genealogical data - Rootsweb continues to be a strong
 choice; then google  yahoo, etc. offer free sites for various reasons; ...
 ... etc. ...]



 On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Jeffrey Brown
 jeffrey_v_br...@hotmail.comwrote:

 I have created a powerpoint and have saved it as an html document.  How
  would I go about publishing it as a web page on the Internet?  Any free
 web
  hosting services out there?
 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Smooth edges of vector graphic objects turn into rough lines in PDF

2013-04-16 Thread anne-ology
   Must be a bug in the new LO -
   I'm still using LO 3.4   ;-)

   I do hope that someone can help you with this problem anon.



On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:27 AM, gordom gord...@wp.pl wrote:

W dniu 2013-04-15 17:33, anne-ology pisze:

 Did it look as you desired in DRAW?
 if so, then by exporting to PDF, all should be a-ok
 (well, works for me)



 Well, it's not OK, that's the problem. However in DRAW  WRITER (LO 4) the
 graphic looks as desired (the shape edges are smooth), after exporting into
 .pdf they become rough.

 Just to illustrate:

 From something like that in WRITER


 /==/
/==/
   /==/
  /==/
 /==/
/==/
   /==/
  /==/
 /==/
/==/
   /==/
  /==/
 /==/


 I get this in .pdf

 [==]
[==]
   [==]
  [==]
 [==]
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem

2013-04-16 Thread anne-ology
   you're cute and knowledgeable - a great combination!



On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote:

On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, anne-ology wrote:

very interesting, yes indeed  ;-)

   well, the more I read this list, 'the more I seem to learn, yet the
 stupider I feel'  ;-)
   (the glorified typewriter has so surpassed me)

   I note you've used a 'new' word; acronymonious seems to fit well in
 this saga -
   yet I hope you didn't mis-type acrimonious  ;-)
   (oh, surely not)


 I did not mistype. I went neologistic on you.

 F.




 On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote:

 On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, anne-ology wrote:


yikes, sounds as if I need further information -

   or need to keep studying ... ... ...  ;-)


 not sure how the further discussion would be relevant to you if you just
 want to use the tool. the link I gave you explains the things pdftk can
 do.
 you can then decide if it might be useful.

 the next step is to determine if you find it convenient to use.

 of course, if you are also interested in how the tool is built, then
 that's a different matter.


Please update re. this / these tks whenever; I'll stay tuned  ;-)


   Ah, acronyms  ;-)
   tk := 
 http://www.acronymfinder.com/TK.htmlhttp://www.acronymfinder.com/**TK.html
 http://www.**acronymfinder.com/TK.htmlhttp://www.acronymfinder.com/TK.html
 

   (well, while waiting to understand all this, my mind tends to
 wander
 - puns are so much fun  :-)  )


 don't mean to be acronymonious about it but all disciplines and
 occupations use abbreviations and have specialist dictionaries -
 general-purpose dictionaries won't do.

 F.




 On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote:

 On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Girvin Herr wrote:


  Felmon,

  Looks like pdftk is written in Java.

   
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Pdftkhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pdftk
 https://en.**wikipedia.org/wiki/**Pdftkhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Pdftk
 
 https://en.wikipedia.**org/**wiki/Pdftkhttps://en.**
 wikipedia.org/wiki/Pdftk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pdftk




 So the gui (Graphical User Interface) is whatever the Java Runtime
 Environment (JRE) interfaces with.  From my experience, it isn't
 pretty,
 but functional.

 I noticed there are some other source files and some 3rd-party code in
 the package that I did not take time to investigate, and it takes Gcc
 to
 build it.  But one of the big ideas of Java is that it contains its
 own
 gui
 code, so the programmer's effort is greatly reduced.  I would be
 surprised
 if pdftk does not use the standard Java gui.
 Girvin Herr


  good to know, especially about the '3rd-party code'.

 makes sense the gui would be in java so it can run on various
 platforms.

 I don't however foresee myself invoking the gui unless I'm working off
 of
 Windows or something.

 I'll look but I bet there's a command-line version for Windows too.

 F.




  On 04/13/2013 11:24 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:

  On Sat, 13 Apr 2013, Tom Davies wrote:


  snip


  I'm only familiar with pdftk as a command-line tool; thus I was

 confused
 by the discussion of desktop environments.

 it does have a gui interface (or several?) and then there are the
 Windows and Mac versions. I don't know what is used to make the gui
 interface on Linux.

 Felmon

  snip




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem

2013-04-16 Thread anne-ology
   ah, yes; and photography is such fun.



On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:53 PM, les hlhow...@pacbell.net wrote:

On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 11:08 -0700, Girvin Herr wrote:
  Tom,
  +5
  Don't get me started on this subject!
  I use 640x480 (300K) on my photos, which are reasonable file sizes to
  attach to messages and they look good enough to me at 4x5 photo paper
  sizes.  I have no intention of blowing my photos up to 8x10 or larger.
  That blowup is where the larger pixel count is good, but who does that
  regularly?  I keep getting photos from relatives of their grandson, etc.
  that are so detailed I can see the pores on the kid's face, but I can't
  see the entire picture on the screen at once!  It is frustrating to
  scroll around the photo on my screen to get some idea of what the photo
  is about.  Sometimes I just don't bother.  Life is too short.
 
  One thing that is enabling this megapixel bloat is the increasing size
  of the memory cards.  For example, my camera, at 640x480 (300K), is
  showing  photos available with a few shots already on it and with an
  8GB card.  At 4608x3456 (16M), it is down to 1877 photos.  Yes, it is a
  16 megapixel camera.
  Girvin
 
 
  On 04/16/2013 04:03 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
   Hi :)
   They do and it does. :D
  
   This mega pixel malarky is hilarious.  Everyone else is racing to
 get more and more mega-pixels (is 12 or 16 mega-pixels the standard issue
 now?) so that they can have more noise and distortions and file-sizes like
 a herd of elephants trying to stampeded down my phone-line.  One company is
 trying to market a 4 Mega-pixels camera that gives a better quality image
 by not adding in random fuzziness.  However everyone is going to say this
 16 megapixels MUST be better than 4 right?  4 is old isn't it?.  meanwhile
 we getting stunning photos of Mars done on  'old' 2 megapixels cameras.  It
 wouldn't be quite so bad if mega-pixel really meant anything.  It clearly
 does NOT mean 1,000 pixels (or 1,024 in computers)
   Regards from
   Tom :)
  
  
  
  
  
   
   From: Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu
   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
   Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 2:45
   Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem
  
  
   On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, Tom Davies wrote:
  
   Hi :)
   Most on-line dictionaries (in the top 10 according to a google
 search) agree that
   A neologism is a newly coined term, word, or
   phrase, that may be in the process of entering common use, but has
 not
   yet been accepted into mainstream
   but my fav is Mirriam-Webster's bucking the trend amusingly
   a meaningless word coined by a psychotic.
  
   Even though it is not apt it's still quietly amusing, to me at
   least, sorry Felmon bud! :)
   no problem but seriously, if the people in the telly were constantly
   sending _you_ neologisms, don't pretend it wouldn't unsettle you a bit
   too.
  
   F.
  
   Regards from Tom :)
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
   From: Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu
   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
   Sent: Monday, 15 April 2013, 21:59
   Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem
  
  
   On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, anne-ology wrote:
  
   very interesting, yes indeed  ;-)
  
   well, the more I read this list, 'the more I seem to
 learn, yet the
   stupider I feel'  ;-)
   (the glorified typewriter has so surpassed me)
  
   I note you've used a 'new' word; acronymonious seems to
 fit well in
   this saga -
   yet I hope you didn't mis-type acrimonious  ;-)
   (oh, surely not)
   I did not mistype. I went neologistic on you.
  
   F.
  
  
  
   On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu
 wrote:
  
   On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, anne-ology wrote:
yikes, sounds as if I need further information -
   or need to keep studying ... ... ...  ;-)
  
   not sure how the further discussion would be relevant to you if
 you just
   want to use the tool. the link I gave you explains the things
 pdftk can do.
   you can then decide if it might be useful.
  
   the next step is to determine if you find it convenient to use.
  
   of course, if you are also interested in how the tool is built,
 then
   that's a different matter.
  
  
Please update re. this / these tks whenever; I'll stay
 tuned  ;-)
   Ah, acronyms  ;-)
   tk := http://www.acronymfinder.com/**TK.html
 http://www.acronymfinder.com/TK.html
   (well, while waiting to understand all this, my mind
 tends to wander
   - puns are so much fun  :-)  )
  
   don't mean to be acronymonious about it but all disciplines and
   occupations use abbreviations and have specialist dictionaries -
   general-purpose dictionaries won't do.
  
   F.
  
  
  
   On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu
 wrote:
  
   On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Girvin Herr wrote:
  
  Felmon,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem

2013-04-16 Thread Doug

On 04/16/2013 11:22 PM, anne-ology wrote:

ah, yes; and photography is such fun.



On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:53 PM, les hlhow...@pacbell.net wrote:

On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 11:08 -0700, Girvin Herr wrote:

Tom,
+5
Don't get me started on this subject!
I use 640x480 (300K) on my photos, which are reasonable file sizes to
attach to messages and they look good enough to me at 4x5 photo paper
sizes.  I have no intention of blowing my photos up to 8x10 or larger.
That blowup is where the larger pixel count is good, but who does that
regularly?  I keep getting photos from relatives of their grandson, etc.
that are so detailed I can see the pores on the kid's face, but I can't
see the entire picture on the screen at once!  It is frustrating to
scroll around the photo on my screen to get some idea of what the photo
is about.  Sometimes I just don't bother.  Life is too short.

One thing that is enabling this megapixel bloat is the increasing size
of the memory cards.  For example, my camera, at 640x480 (300K), is
showing  photos available with a few shots already on it and with an
8GB card.  At 4608x3456 (16M), it is down to 1877 photos.  Yes, it is a
16 megapixel camera.
Girvin



Why not open the file in a viewer that lets you zoom the size? Gwenview
is one, GIMP is another. Probably a whole batch, some better than others.

--doug

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