Re: LibreO. Calc problem saving to nfs -
On 01/19/2012 09:33 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Yes, that was the problem and I knew immediately upon reading your message that I had done that change before and it was in my notes. The file name is now: /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice Yes, when you are running the 64bit version of Fedora... Another problem fixed despite my incipient altzheimers. Thanks Ed. Welcome... -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Device Notifier show NFS shares
On 01/20/2012 02:11 PM, Emmett Culley wrote: Since upgrading to Fedora 16 I notice that the device notifier always has my nfs shares listed. I've insured that removable device only is checked, but it still shows the nfs shares. I see that happening in my wife's machine as well since I upgraded her a couple of days ago. Anyone else seeing this. Yes And a bugzilla has been written for itjust don't have the # at hand. -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: printing landscape -- hp laserjet p3005dn, hp lasejet color 2600n
On 01/24/2012 07:15 AM, gary artim wrote: Seem all the landscape printing in linux stopped working, virtual hosts of w7 still work on same machine. Has anyone seenn this problem? I've tried deleting and reinstalling all the printers, different ppd, no workie! I get 1/2 of a portrait mode printout when using landscape - maybe some filter missing?. For the 2600 I tried foo2hp also - same results. Ideas welcomed. I have about 8 desktops all borked for landscape mode (so you feel some sympathy). Seriously please advise. thanks No problem here. Running fully updated F16 system with a network attached HP 6500. From which applications have you tried printing? I just printed landscape from Chrome and LibreOffice Calc. -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: printing landscape -- hp laserjet p3005dn, hp lasejet color 2600n
On 01/24/2012 09:00 AM, gary artim wrote: Ed I tried libreoffice, firefox. both behave the same, prints a lopped off portrait image when printing landscape. I have a 2055 hp and it prints fine, just the p3005dn and 2600n, both hp's do this. Well, I don't have those printers If you run system-config-printer do you see any differences in the settings that may explain things? How about under Job Options, Orientation? Set to Automatic? -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: printing landscape -- hp laserjet p3005dn, hp lasejet color 2600n
On 01/24/2012 09:30 AM, gary artim wrote: will check tomorrow when I get in the office. I've been using cups (localhost:631) or lpadmin to config the printer, maybe I should stay clear of these? and use system-config-printer. at a lose as to what is happening. could be i need to set debugging in cups to see whats what...I havent tested with enscript to see if its apps related..g. I generally only use cups myself. But, I happened to notice that s-c-p has settings had a orientation settings. Seemed like something to check. -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Invoking a client side process from server side
On 01/24/2012 05:25 PM, shreyas m wrote: I am developing a c based client server application which enables the system administrator to install applications in the client machines from the server itself.Now i want the server side component(process) to send a signal to activate a client side process.(ie, the client side process should start running on receiving the signal from server side).Should the client side process be registered to client side os? If yes how to do that? Please help me out.. Thanking you -- / / Well, if you want to start a process on the client side by sending a signal then you need something listening on the client side for the signal. Maybe you want to use xinetd on the client side. -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How do I download this video ?
On 01/26/2012 08:41 AM, Dick Roark wrote: I just right-clicked on the link and it came right up in a new window, Ford trucks and all. He wants to download it so he can save it and watch it offline. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:34 AM, linux guy linuxguy...@gmail.com mailto:linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: How could I download this video ? http://dev2.magicoast.com/player/main.swf?type=0id=ZTk5NTA5NDAversion=1.0.10network=209.124.55.25logo=24 http://dev2.magicoast.com/player/main.swf?type=0id=ZTk5NTA5NDAversion=1.0.10network=209.124.55.25logo=24 Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Are you a Linux Expert?
On 01/28/2012 01:55 AM, Francesco Principe wrote: We have the community for you... Join Now! http://www.linuxexpertcommunity.com/ Your message, as well as your website doesn't provide sufficient (any) information that would make me curious enough to request admission. -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: after yum plugin?
On 01/28/2012 03:05 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 1/26/2012 3:23 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:42:54 +0200 Panu Matilainen wrote: Sounds like 'yum-plugin-post-transaction-actions' package is what you're looking for. Yep, even found actual documentation for it once I knew what to search for. Thanks! This is something I can use ... thanks for bring the question up on this list Paul Well, I thought about using it...but decided to stick with my scripts. I'm not sure if it would be the same for everyone, but it seems that most (all) of my post yum actions result in mucking the packages such that the benefit of the Presto plugin is negated. This, for example, necessitates a full download of libreoffice-core. So, my scripts put stuff back the way it needs to be to keep Presto happy. -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Wireless network drop outs on XPS17 (F16, Centrino Advanced N)
On 02/01/2012 06:01 AM, linux guy wrote: I'm running F16-KDE-64 on a Dell XPS17 laptop. It is continually dropping wireless connections. It works and then it doesn't work. Very annoying. I am managing wireless with Network manager. Any ideas ? Thanks $ lspci | grep Network 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6230 (rev 34 $ uname -a Linux XPS.localdomain 3.2.2-1.fc16.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jan 26 03:21:58 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Sounds like a known problem with the current kernel reported earlier on the list. Check the archives. -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: adios flash, watch youtube videos in html5
On 02/01/2012 09:08 AM, Fulko Hew wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Dennis Kaptain dkapt...@yahoo.com.mx mailto:dkapt...@yahoo.com.mx wrote: - Mensaje original - De: Itamar Reis Peixoto ita...@ispbrasil.com.br mailto:ita...@ispbrasil.com.br Para: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org CC: Enviado: Martes, 31 de enero, 2012 17:56:49 Asunto: adios flash, watch youtube videos in html5 adios flash, watch youtube videos in html5 http://www.youtube.com/html5 Itamar Reis Peixoto msn, google talk: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br mailto:ita...@ispbrasil.com.br I am running Fedora 16 x86_64 with Firefox 9.0.1 The site this link takes me to says my browser does not support h.264. WebM is supported The site says you need h.264 OR WebM, so it supposedly works; trouble is... how can you tell? Find a video without ads Like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mP39wS_FxQ Then right click in the video and you'll notice it is not using flash... -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: adios flash, watch youtube videos in html5
On 02/01/2012 09:34 AM, Andras Simon wrote: 2012/2/1, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com: Find a video without ads Like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mP39wS_FxQ Then right click in the video and you'll notice it is not using flash... It is, here. I guess it's conditional on the capabilities of your browser. Strange Both Chrome 16.0.912.77 and Firefox 9.0.1 show it in html5 here Double check to make sure you've opted in? You do have to opt in... -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: adios flash, watch youtube videos in html5
On 02/01/2012 09:49 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: So if you have to opt in to this, what have I been watching videos with on my phone? It is android 2.2, and doesn't have flash, yet youtube has been working fine. Maybe this statement in the original post applies to you? Some users of supported browsers are automatically entered in to the trial. Maybe this trail only applies to desktop browsers? -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: adios flash, watch youtube videos in html5
On 02/01/2012 09:54 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/01/2012 09:49 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: So if you have to opt in to this, what have I been watching videos with on my phone? It is android 2.2, and doesn't have flash, yet youtube has been working fine. Maybe this statement in the original post applies to you? Some users of supported browsers are automatically entered in to the trial. Maybe this trail only applies to desktop browsers? FWIW, I just went to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mP39wS_FxQ on a FF browser on a Fedora 16 system without flash installed. The browser very briefly displays plugin not found and then switches to html5 while telling me that if I want to I should install flash. -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unable to upgrade again,some tools and applications!!!
On 02/04/2012 11:09 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: unbelieveable - how many threads will not be started about the same problem WAIT until all depending packages are rebuilt and in the repos dep-solv problems are never a reason to panic and will be solved after a short time without many postings everywhere or enable rpmfusion-testing to get the rebuilt ffmpeg but why do nobody read all the existing threads belonging to this problem Don't forget to add that it would also be a good idea to yum clean dbcache before trying again -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How do I get half my KDE panel back????
On 02/05/2012 06:18 PM, DB wrote: What I'd like, is to move it out of the lost found back into the Internet, and for the Orange Firefox icon to come back Hover your mouse over Applications and then right click. Choose Edit Applications and you will get a gui that should be self explanatory. -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: taming mount output
On 02/08/2012 12:59 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: The output of F16 mount is somewhat confusing. Is there a way to confine it to just the output of interest to the average user? Thanks. Sorry for the FAQ. man mount Take note of the -t option and then create an alias as desired. -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Two versions of acpid installed
On 11/20/13 16:01, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: My system seems to have versions 2.0.19-5 and 2.0.20-2 both installed. I thought that installing the later version would remove the earlier. And why doesn't yum report a conflict? Is this a problem? Can I simply remove the earlier version? Known issue rpm -e --noscripts acpid-2.0.19-5.fc19.x86_64 -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
NetworkManager-l2tp requires kernel-debug ??
I'm on an F19 system running KDE and wanting to install kde-plasma-nm-l2tp. One of its dependencies is NetworkManager-l2tp which is pulling in kernel-debug and kernel-debug-modules-extra. Does anyone know why this would be the case? -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: VOB
On 11/28/13 07:36, Richard Vickery wrote: Being on the test kernel - or, more likely, using a more stable one from the list that is compiled - is probably the answer to the issue: how am I to watch a VOB file? Linux 3.11.9-300.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Nov 20 22:23:25 UTC 2013 x86_64 mplayer plays VOB's just fine as does vlc. You may want to reconsider your crossposting. That is generally frowned upon. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: evince
On 11/29/13 01:48, Michael Schwendt wrote: We do already, don't we? With the feedback from the various users of Fedora 18, 19 and 20, where the Delta displays correctly, it seems to boil down to a configuration issue. Mission objective would be to find out what changes an installation to end up with displaying a Phi instead of a Delta. Perhaps fonts packages? Perhaps pulled in as dependencies for something? One interesting thing I discovered, at least on my F19 system, is if I highlight (copy) the Phi and then paste it into a terminal the resulting character is a delta. Also worth a try would be to create a fresh user account and try to reproduce the problem with that account. If it's not reproducible, it could be the installed packages. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: evince
On 11/29/13 08:36, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 29 November 2013, Ed Greshko sent: One interesting thing I discovered, at least on my F19 system, is if I highlight (copy) the Phi and then paste it into a terminal the resulting character is a delta. That seriously points to it being a broken font, then. What's on the page is an instruction to print character number whatever. Depending on what's in the font, will be what you see. If you copy and paste the text, you're copying the data about which (numbered) characters are there. It'd take something that copies the data, plus the formatting, and re-applies the same formatting (and therefor same font), for an error to be repeated. The original poster could test that out in any editor that lets them change fonts. Type the character out several times, and change the font for each of them, separately. When you pick a broken font, it'll change what it looks like. Agreed And, FWIW ∅ = U+2205 (What I see on one system) ∆ = U+2206 (What I see on a working system and what it is when looking at the bits) -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why some say rpm elysium
On 11/30/13 07:40, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 29/11/13 18:32, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 29/11/13 18:21, Steven Stern wrote: So, when I reply from the gmail web interface, messages thread appropriately. As do messages from thunderbird. -- -- Steve Those two thread with each other but not with the earlier messages with that same subject name. Looking at the source In Reply is different than the earlier messages. Bob I should have said they do not thread with the original messages from poma and g. I didn't realize you were using stuff from AP. Nothing threads with those apparently ... OK friends. I tested in the following manner to confirm what others have said. First... 1. Copied a message, using T-Bird's functions, from my home system's inbox to gmail's inbox. The message copied contained a References: header with 2 entries and a Message-ID: header. 2. Used the reply function in gmail's web interface and replaced the To: address with my home email address and then sent it. 3. Examined the headers of the mail received it now contains a References: header with 3 entries including the Message-ID: header info referenced in #1 and it had its own unique Message-ID:. Second I repeated the test but I used the Edit Subject from the drop-down but I *did not* actually edit the Subject. When I Examined the headers of the mail received it contained *no* References: header. So, to me at least, it is obvious what is being done and causing Threading Problems. Deliberate or not, it is annoying and one would hope this bit of knowledge would help people to avoid this situation in the future and this thread will eventually expire as it should. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why some say rpm elysium
On 11/30/13 08:07, David wrote: On 11/29/2013 7:02 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/30/13 07:40, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 29/11/13 18:32, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 29/11/13 18:21, Steven Stern wrote: So, when I reply from the gmail web interface, messages thread appropriately. As do messages from thunderbird. -- -- Steve Those two thread with each other but not with the earlier messages with that same subject name. Looking at the source In Reply is different than the earlier messages. Bob I should have said they do not thread with the original messages from poma and g. I didn't realize you were using stuff from AP. Nothing threads with those apparently ... OK friends. I tested in the following manner to confirm what others have said. First... 1. Copied a message, using T-Bird's functions, from my home system's inbox to gmail's inbox. The message copied contained a References: header with 2 entries and a Message-ID: header. 2. Used the reply function in gmail's web interface and replaced the To: address with my home email address and then sent it. 3. Examined the headers of the mail received it now contains a References: header with 3 entries including the Message-ID: header info referenced in #1 and it had its own unique Message-ID:. Second I repeated the test but I used the Edit Subject from the drop-down but I *did not* actually edit the Subject. When I Examined the headers of the mail received it contained *no* References: header. So, to me at least, it is obvious what is being done and causing Threading Problems. Deliberate or not, it is annoying and one would hope this bit of knowledge would help people to avoid this situation in the future and this thread will eventually expire as it should. Perhaps it should be reported to Google (Gmail) Ed? I don't think so. IMO, if you're indicating that you're wanting to change the subject it is like going off on a tangent and no longer relevant to the original thread. It would be overly complex for google to have to determine if you've actually did change the subject line to then decide if it should remove the References: header. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why some say rpm elysium
On 11/30/13 10:12, Joe Eff wrote: On 11/29/2013 04:14 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: It would be overly complex for google to have to determine if you've actually did change the subject line to then decide if it should remove the References: header. How hard can it be to compare the new Subject to a copy of the old one and not change other headers if they're identical? If one adds a few ! to indicate emphasis has the meaning changed? If one changes a word from their to there to correct a typo has the meaning changed? Technically, yes. But practically? Anyway, this is well beyond the scope of this list. So, have fun taking this debate on to wherever it leads. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: evince
On 12/02/13 07:46, Patrick Dupre wrote: I am sorry for the disturbance with my replies. It is now 15 years that I use to use mailing list and it is the first time that people complains about my replies. What should I do ? Remove my signature to all my emails while it is automatically added ? I also checked my setup. I have 3 options when repying: Add original text message Indent original text message Always use default from adress. Only the 2 first ones are checked. Should I check the 3rd one also? It would seem your web-mail client (X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer) doesn't play well with mailing lists and strips out the References: header. If your ISP allows it, which it most likely does, you should switch to an IMAP (or POP if you really must) email client such as Thunderbird and use it instead. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: evince
On 12/02/13 08:02, David wrote: Patrick, Your questions and posts have nevrr bothered me. Nor have I seen any complaints until recently. If I was you? I would ignore the jerks and continue on. \You have a good day. I'm not annoyed either, but I would refrain from calling other list members jerks. However, I could see how posts/clients which strip out the References: headers are annoying. While they don't totally break the thread in that some (most) clients will display them with the messages of the same Subject:. However, with clients such as T-Bird it places messages indented based on the References: so you'll get a really good visual as to which message within a thread the rely is paired with. This is lost when References: is removed. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: evince
On 11/27/13 23:18, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, The viewing ot the attached file is correct with xpsd and acroread, but is wrong with evince. The correct character is a \Delta with the wrong character for me is \Phi. Would you know what is wrong? This may be late. In looking at the document's properties and selecting the fonts tab I noticed that it was using /usr/share/fonts/google-croscore/SymbolNeu.ttf for symbols on my F19 system. This comes with the google-croscore-symbolneu-fonts package. Erasing this package resulted in a delta being displayed as /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/s05l.pfb is now being used. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: evince
On 12/04/13 18:19, Patrick Dupre wrote: In looking at the document's properties and selecting the fonts tab I noticed that it was using /usr/share/fonts/google-croscore/SymbolNeu.ttf for symbols on my F19 system. This comes with the google-croscore-symbolneu-fonts package. Erasing this package resulted in a delta being displayed as /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/s05l.pfb is now being used. In my case, I use for symbol: /usr/sahre/fonts/wine-symbol-fonts/symbol.ttf In my opinion, this is the faultry font. I dug a bit, In the symbol font, the Delta character is U+0394, while the increment character is U+2206 (looks very simiar to a Delta), and it is just beside the empty set character U+2205, the one which is probably displayed (like a Phi). So, there is a mess up here. Since I don't have wine installed on my system, I don't have /usr/share/fonts/wine-symbol-fonts/symbol.ttf . The fact that it fails with the google-croscore-symbolneu-fonts package as well would indicate that it isn't a font file issue. In fact, if you use something such as the Gnome Character Map you'd see that the character displays properly in that app no matter which font you select. Additionally, the character in your test.pdf is U+2206. I copied it and pasted it to terminal in the following manner [egreshko@meimei ~]$ echo ∆ | od -bc 000 342 210 206 012 342 210 206 \n While the Delta character is U+0394 produces... [egreshko@meimei F20-TC4]$ echo Δ | od -bc 000 316 224 012 316 224 \n For completeness.. [egreshko@meimei ~]$ echo ∅ | od -bc 000 342 210 205 012 342 210 205 \n Pretty sure this is an evince issue https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1037882 -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: evince
On 12/04/13 18:37, Ed Greshko wrote: The fact that it fails with the google-croscore-symbolneu-fonts package as well would indicate that it isn't a font file issue. In fact, if you use something such as the Gnome Character Map you'd see that the character displays properly in that app no matter which font you select. The KDE utility kcharselect is actually a bit better when paired with the output of od as it shows Various Useful Representations UTF-8: 0xE2 0x88 0x86 UTF-16: 0x2206 C octal escaped UTF-8: \342\210\206 Which matches what I previous wrote [egreshko@meimei ~]$ echo ∆ | od -bc 000 342 210 206 012 342 210 206 \n -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: evince
On 12/04/13 19:16, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 04 December 2013, Ed Greshko sent: The fact that it fails with the google-croscore-symbolneu-fonts package as well would indicate that it isn't a font file issue. In fact, if you use something such as the Gnome Character Map you'd see that the character displays properly in that app no matter which font you select. What about other PDF rendering applications? You would have to ask that question and screw things up :-) okular also exhibits the same failure. The dreaded acroread does not. xpdf also does not exhibit a failure. lsof shows xpdf using /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/s05l.pfb and /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/n021003l.pfb While acroread appears to be using only /usr/share/fonts/dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf This is on F19. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: evince
On 12/04/13 19:59, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/04/13 19:16, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 04 December 2013, Ed Greshko sent: The fact that it fails with the google-croscore-symbolneu-fonts package as well would indicate that it isn't a font file issue. In fact, if you use something such as the Gnome Character Map you'd see that the character displays properly in that app no matter which font you select. What about other PDF rendering applications? You would have to ask that question and screw things up :-) okular also exhibits the same failure. The dreaded acroread does not. xpdf also does not exhibit a failure. lsof shows xpdf using /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/s05l.pfb and /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/n021003l.pfb While acroread appears to be using only /usr/share/fonts/dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf This is on F19. Maybe an ah ha moment. Selecting Symbol Neu font in LibreOffice Word and typing ∆ results in an empty square being displayed. This would seem to indicate that Symbol Neu doesn't have the glyph for U+2206 and somehow there is a problem when a substitute font is chosen. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: failed updates
On 12/08/13 08:03, Frank wrote: Just tried to update my Fedora 19 with yum check-update. It seems every mirror has a problem: http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/fedora/linux/updates/19/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates Trying other mirror. ftp://mirror.nexicom.net/pub/fedora/linux/updates/19/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] curl#7 - Failed to connect to 2607:f1f0:1:3::2: Network is unreachable Just updated my F19 system without incident. But, I am on a IPv4 only system and you're system seems to be using IPv6. 2607:f1f0:1:3::2: Network is unreachable. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: failed updates
On 12/08/13 21:59, Frank McCormick wrote: Well that solves the problem. What I don't understand is that so few reported the difficulties. Well it could be that some of us never got yum-3.4.3-119 installed. Was it ever pushed to updates or was it only in updates-testing? I updated earlier today and still have yum-3.4.3-111.fc19 installed. I can see that yum-3.4.3-120.fc19 is currently in updates-testing. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: font manager
On 12/09/13 07:49, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, Trying to use font-manager, I get: font-manager:4338 : WARNING **: sqlite3_step failed! INFO: Finished loading 0 families and no font ca be displayed! The behavior of the font veiwer is also strange, I cannot view the symbol font. Onlt square boxes are displayed! Thank for your help. No problems here on an F19 system and on a F20-TC5 system. Assuming you're running this as a regular user. You can try. rm -rf ~/.cache/font-manager and then try again. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: International phonetic alphabet fonts.
On 12/13/13 09:42, Rolf Turner wrote: I apologise for the lack of articulateness in this question; I am floundering a bit. Basically --- how can I obtain a font which will render the symbols of the international phonetic alphabet? I tried yum list font just now (prompted by another posting on this mailing-list) and got a catalogue of about a brazillion fonts, but none that seemed to be related to the international phonetic alphabet. Searching through this catalogue for international or phonetic turned up nothing. Searching for IPA turned up: ipa-ex-gothic-fonts.noarch : Japanese Gothic-typeface OpenType font by IPA ipa-pmincho-fonts.noarch : Japanese Proportional Mincho-typeface OpenType font : by IPA which seem to pertain to Japanese rather than to the international phonetic alphabet, so I don't *think* that these are anything to do with what I want. A client for whom I am consulting in respect of statistical analysis of some linguistic data tells me: The IPA font I used is called Ipa-samd Uclphonl SILDoulosL. I think it is one of the common available options in Microsoft, the other ones are Ipa-samm Uclphonl SILManuscript and Ipa-sams Uclphonl SILSophiaL. But this is Micr$oft rubbish. Is there any way I get an international phonetic alphabet font for Fedora so that I can see my client's data on my machine? BTW, I am (still) running Fedora 17. Have not had the courage to upgrade to 18 or 19. My system is running very satisfactorily (except for the font problem that I am having) and I strongly adhere to the principle If it ain't broke don't fix it. Well, looking at this page http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/wells/ipa-unicode.htm would suggest several fonts that display the characters. I used the KDE utility kcharselect to find the characters reference in the web page. I found that many fonts will display them just fine. One that didn't was Symbol Neu. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Yum update failure -
On 12/15/13 17:16, Bob Goodwin wrote: This is an error message I have not had before: [root@box10 bobg]# yum update Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit adobe-linux-x86_64 | 951 B 00:00:00 fedora/20/x86_64/metalink | 18 kB 00:00:00 fedora | 3.8 kB 00:00:00 rpmfusion-free-rawhide | 3.3 kB 00:00:00 rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide | 3.3 kB 00:00:00 updates/20/x86_64/metalink | 17 kB 00:00:00 updates | 4.6 kB 00:00:00 http://mirror.west.ig2ad.com/Fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates Trying other mirror. updates | 3.4 kB 00:00:00 http://mirror.uoregon.edu/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates Trying other mirror. updates | 3.4 kB 00:00:00 http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates Trying other mirror. And it continues ad infinitum. Knowing nothing else to try I did yum clean metadata and then yum clean all. That did not help. Am I the only one? FWIW, I would expect some instabilities in the not yet released F20 repos as we approach formal release on Tuesday, December 17, 2013. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird-lightning Version Incompatibility
On 12/17/13 11:46, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: The current versions of thunderbird and thunderbird-lightning, namely * thunderbird-24.2.0-2 * thunderbird-lightning-2.6.2-3 don't seem to be compatible. My system's thunderbird-lightning calendar stopped working today in its first invocation since upgrading thunderbird. I was able to revive it by: * erasing thunderbird-lightning from the system using yum * installing lightning 2.6.4 from inside thunderbird * logging out and then logging in again (restarting thunderbird didn't work) Has anyone else noticed this nonsense? Yes To fix the problem I downloaded and installed thunderbird-24.2.0-4.fc19.x86_64 thunderbird-lightning-2.6.4-7.fc19.x86_64 thunderbird-enigmail-1.6-2.fc19.x86_64 from koji http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/ -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - hostname
On 12/19/13 03:57, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Yes. I have notes on this, and did the change. But past installs let me set it at install time via a dialog prompt. That is what I am asking about. Where did it get moved to??? It was taken out and, as explained, moved to a post-install utility. This was actually done in F19. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - hostname
On 12/19/13 05:30, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/18/2013 04:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/19/13 03:57, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Yes. I have notes on this, and did the change. But past installs let me set it at install time via a dialog prompt. That is what I am asking about. Where did it get moved to??? It was taken out and, as explained, moved to a post-install utility. This was actually done in F19. Ah, like I said, I skipped f18 and 19. Now I remember putting in just the name, not the full fqdn. Will try that next time. I tend to do a number of installs on the test machine before trying it on the main box. This is a minor issue. Easy enough to correct. Not like figuring out what happened to gedit and nautilus. And getting updates to be applied at install time. Looks as if I need to correct myself. As Tom pointed out, there is now a place to enter that in the network spoke. Pretty sure that wasn't there in F19 and I failed to look there during the beta phase.. :-( -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20
On 12/19/13 21:36, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:22:14 + Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: ownload for an upgrade if they did. That just means that someone haven done his job or there was an error during package rebuild which hasn't been fixed yet (correct me if I'm wrong but there is something like mass rebuild in Fedora). Please file bugzilla report against this packages but excluding that from rpmfussion. Wrong, yum update was used (check earlier threads from op) yum distro-sync is your friend. Actually not in this case. It was a clean install. As previously pointed out, there is nothing to be concerned about. There are cases where a package is not rebuilt to fc20. If you look at the Packages directory in the F20 DVD you'd find dbus-java-2.7-12.fc19.x86_64.rpm gstreamer-plugins-espeak-0.4.0-2.fc19.x86_64.rpm keybinder-0.3.0-2.fc19.x86_64.rpm liblqr-1-0.4.1-5.fc19.x86_64.rpm rubygem-therubyracer-0.11.0-2.fc19.x86_64.rpm and I would expect there to be others in the repos for things not on the DVD. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
On 12/20/13 07:50, Greg Woods wrote: I am running VirtualBox under F19, and I wanted to try F20 in a VM, but I can't get it to install. With both the Live ISO and the full DVD iso, if I point the virtual DVD drive at the ISO, it boots into the main syslinux/Anaconda menu, but as soon as I select Install Fedora, the screen goes black and nothing ever happens. Has anyone installed F20 into a VirtualBox VM? Yes. Been installing and testing F20 on a VM for a while now. But make sure you're running VirtualBox 4.3.6 -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
On 12/20/13 09:26, Greg Woods wrote: On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 08:04 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Yes. Been installing and testing F20 on a VM for a while now. But make sure you're running VirtualBox 4.3.6 Thanks for the tip, I was on 4.3.4 . So I upgraded to 4.3.6, installed the extension pack, and... I still get a black screen after selecting install Fedora 20 from the Anaconda/syslinux boot menu. That is odd. FWIW, my F19 host is 64bit and I'm using the rpmfusion nVidia stuff to drive the host system video. Also, I've only installed/tested F20 in 64 bit. When I select Install the screen goes black for about 5 seconds, then goes white for about 10 seconds and then black with scrolling messages. You have verified the checksums of the downloaded ISO's? -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: /etc/default/grub missing.
On 12/21/13 17:43, Erik P. Olsen wrote: /etc/default/grub is missing on my newly installed F20. What's replacing its functionality? It is there on mine [egreshko@f20f default]$ ll /etc/default/grub -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 382 Dec 19 06:34 /etc/default/grub -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No loop device in new kernel?
On 12/22/13 09:19, Tom Horsley wrote: Is there no loop device in the new 3.12.5 kernel by default? I was just trying to mount a filesystem via realcrypt and kept getting errors about unable to setup the loop device. After some poking around with google searches I found some other folks with the same error claiming that the kernel no longer loads the loop module by default. I added a /etc/modules-load.d/loop.conf file and rebooted and was able to use realcrypt again, but having a non-functional loop by default seems like a bug to me :-). 3.12 kernel? Something to bring up on the testing mailing list? -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No loop device in new kernel?
On 12/22/13 09:56, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/22/13 09:19, Tom Horsley wrote: Is there no loop device in the new 3.12.5 kernel by default? I was just trying to mount a filesystem via realcrypt and kept getting errors about unable to setup the loop device. After some poking around with google searches I found some other folks with the same error claiming that the kernel no longer loads the loop module by default. I added a /etc/modules-load.d/loop.conf file and rebooted and was able to use realcrypt again, but having a non-functional loop by default seems like a bug to me :-). 3.12 kernel? Something to bring up on the testing mailing list? Ahhh. didn't expect that to be an update that just ran :-) :-) -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No loop device in new kernel?
On 12/22/13 10:09, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 09:56:12 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: 3.12 kernel? Something to bring up on the testing mailing list? Nope. I got updates just recently and it installed 3.12.5-200.fc19.x86_64. I don't have the testing repo enabled. Yeah, that just happened to me. ooopss... :-) -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No loop device in new kernel?
On 12/22/13 09:19, Tom Horsley wrote: Is there no loop device in the new 3.12.5 kernel by default? I was just trying to mount a filesystem via realcrypt and kept getting errors about unable to setup the loop device. After some poking around with google searches I found some other folks with the same error claiming that the kernel no longer loads the loop module by default. I added a /etc/modules-load.d/loop.conf file and rebooted and was able to use realcrypt again, but having a non-functional loop by default seems like a bug to me :-). FWIW, I just did the update and then mount f20.dvd -w -t iso9660 -o loop /mnt/iso and it mounted just fine without the addition of a /etc/modules-load.d/loop.conf -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: upgrading from F18 to F20 -- missing dependencies
On 12/22/13 21:39, John Aldrich wrote: I use KMOD-NVIDIA on my system, and I ran FEDUP to upgrade to F20 overnight and when I came to my computer this morning, there were several warnings: WARNING: problems were encountered during transaction test: broken dependencies kmod-nvidia-304xx-3.11.7-100.fc18.x86_64-304.88-4.fc18.x86_64 requires kernel-3.11.9-100.fc18.x86_64, kernel-3.11.7-100.fc18.x86_64, kernel-3.11.10-100.fc18.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-304xx-3.11.9-100.fc18.x86_64-304.116-1.fc18.x86_64 requires kernel-3.11.9-100.fc18.x86_64, kernel-3.11.7-100.fc18.x86_64, kernel-3.11.10-100.fc18.x86_64 xmms2-sid-0.8-4.fc19.x86_64 requires xmms2-sid-0.8-4.fc19.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-304xx-3.11.10-100.fc18.x86_64-304.116-1.fc18.x86_64 requires kernel-3.11.9-100.fc18.x86_64, kernel-3.11.7-100.fc18.x86_64, kernel-3.11.10-100.fc18.x86_64 Continue with the upgrade at your own risk. Also, why is it trying to install F19 RPMs when I'm upgrading to F20? You are using kmod-nvidia from rpm-fusion and you are asking here for help? -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
On 12/22/13 22:53, Greg Woods wrote: The RPM I have installed is VirtualBox-4.3-4.3.6_91406_fedora18-1.x86_64 (they don't seem to have one for Fedora 19). Yes, but the download is labeled for Fedora 18 (Spherical Cow) / 19 (Schrödingers Cat) -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
On 12/23/13 06:40, David wrote: You guys are making this much, much more difficult than it is. Not really. The OP is using VBox from the Oracle site on F19 and is wanting to run F20 in a VM and he can't get it to install. Others, including myself, have had no problems. So.trying to help find the reason. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
On 12/23/13 07:58, David wrote: On 12/22/2013 6:07 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/23/13 06:40, David wrote: You guys are making this much, much more difficult than it is. Not really. The OP is using VBox from the Oracle site on F19 and is wanting to run F20 in a VM and he can't get it to install. Others, including myself, have had no problems. So.trying to help find the reason. Hi Ed, I did not mean to be 'nasty' here. But? I often see people that *think* that they know a lot or people that actually *do* know a lot confuse Newbies, either to Linux in general or some program, with all kinds of (he ducks under the desk here) *Geek Speak!* Do this!!. Try this!! Try that!! All written in *Geek Speak!* to a Newbie. IMHO? Sometimes, many times, the *Geek Speak!* folks make things too hard. Think about it. Two possibilities. PEBCAC or his hardware. My guess would be the first. Newbie stuff. Whic is in now way bad. Everyone has to start somewhere. But First question? user experience? Second? What hardware? there are others. They depend on the answers to the first ones. Virtualbox is the most thoroughly documented program I have ever since ever. The Help File is a searchable PDF. If 'your system' can read a PDF and if 'you' can read and comprehend all will be revealed. But? Once again it is written in *Geek Speak!*. Honest. Read the 'help me' question. Is it a Newbie or 'knida Newbie' or 'I think I know what I am doing' question. And then Don' everyon jump on him/er with tons of suggestions. Ya' think? The OP is not a newbie. He has stated that he has run VBox since forever and that F20 works fine in virt-manager. The last significant post from the OP would indicate he has it running under virt-manager and is not concentrating on trying to find a method to convert VBox VM's to run under virt-manager. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
On 12/23/13 09:57, Ed Greshko wrote: The last significant post from the OP would indicate he has it running under virt-manager and is not concentrating on trying to find a method to convert VBox VM's to run under virt-manager Should read The last significant post from the OP would indicate he has it running under virt-manager and is NOW concentrating on trying to find a method to convert VBox VM's to run under virt-manager -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: just upgraded to F20
On 12/23/13 06:54, John Aldrich wrote: And now running yum distro-sync results in the system trying to roll back everything. When I look in YUMEX it shows all the repos as F18, not F20. How do I fix that??? What does cat /etc/os-release reveal? -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?
On 12/24/13 07:16, Robert P. J. Day wrote: Quoting Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: a long, long time ago, i reported an apparent glitch with NFS on fedora: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-January/097465.html in that, at the time, it *appeared* that you couldn't set up NFS so that *only* version 4 was running. before i start messing with this again, anyone know whether that's changed? that is, is it possible to set up a network in which only NFSv4 is running, and no earlier versions are supported? thanks. It's been possible to run nfsv4-only nfs for a long time, with only port 2049 being let through the firewall. It only appears that you can't because because rpc.mountd has to run on the server but it's only involved in the exporting and not the mounting. how does one configure fedora 20 to support only NFSv4? i'm used to mucking with /etc/sysconfig/nfs in earlier versions of RH, and tweaking the variables MOUNTD_NFS_V* and RPCNFSDARGS. i don't see those vars in fedora 20 and, according to rpcinfo -p, i'm currently supporting NFS versions both 3 and 4. so how does one turn off NFSv3? thanks. In /etc/sysconfig/nfs # Optional arguments passed to rpc.nfsd. See rpc.nfsd(8) RPCNFSDARGS= man 8 rpc.nfsd -N or --no-nfs-version vers This option can be used to request that rpc.nfsd does not offer certain versions of NFS. The current version of rpc.nfsd can sup‐ port NFS versions 2,3,4 and the newer version 4.1. Would seem to be what you are searching. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?
On 12/24/13 08:15, Robert P. J. Day wrote: Quoting Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com: On 12/24/13 07:16, Robert P. J. Day wrote: Quoting Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: a long, long time ago, i reported an apparent glitch with NFS on fedora: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-January/097465.html in that, at the time, it *appeared* that you couldn't set up NFS so that *only* version 4 was running. before i start messing with this again, anyone know whether that's changed? that is, is it possible to set up a network in which only NFSv4 is running, and no earlier versions are supported? thanks. It's been possible to run nfsv4-only nfs for a long time, with only port 2049 being let through the firewall. It only appears that you can't because because rpc.mountd has to run on the server but it's only involved in the exporting and not the mounting. how does one configure fedora 20 to support only NFSv4? i'm used to mucking with /etc/sysconfig/nfs in earlier versions of RH, and tweaking the variables MOUNTD_NFS_V* and RPCNFSDARGS. i don't see those vars in fedora 20 and, according to rpcinfo -p, i'm currently supporting NFS versions both 3 and 4. so how does one turn off NFSv3? thanks. In /etc/sysconfig/nfs # Optional arguments passed to rpc.nfsd. See rpc.nfsd(8) RPCNFSDARGS= man 8 rpc.nfsd -N or --no-nfs-version vers This option can be used to request that rpc.nfsd does not offer certain versions of NFS. The current version of rpc.nfsd can sup‐ port NFS versions 2,3,4 and the newer version 4.1. Would seem to be what you are searching. i tried that and it didn't seem to work, in the sense that when i ran rpcinfo -p to verify the result, here's part of the output: 133 tcp 2049 nfs 1002273 tcp 2049 nfs_acl 133 udp 2049 nfs 1002273 udp 2049 nfs_acl 134 tcp 2049 nfs 134 udp 2049 nfs so isn't that telling me i still have both versions 3 and 4? here's the line i added to the file: RPCNFSDARGS=-N 2 -N 3 Port 2049 is used by V4. I don't think V3 or V2 uses it I would add to the parameters -U to disable UDP and then attempt a mount while specifying that nfs version 3 be used. That will verify it. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?
On 12/24/13 09:12, Robert P. J. Day wrote: as a quick test, i added -U but the only change was that rpcinfo -p showed me that UDP was no longer being accepted for v4 only: 133 tcp 2049 nfs 1002273 tcp 2049 nfs_acl 133 udp 2049 nfs 1002273 udp 2049 nfs_acl 134 tcp 2049 nfs to match what i see under RHEL, i was hoping to see *all* references to NFSv3 disappear from the output of that command. i'll test further later. I don't know, or think, that the above indicates V3 exists. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
On 12/24/13 09:31, Greg Woods wrote: On Mon, 2013-12-23 at 12:37 -0500, David wrote: On 12/23/2013 9:11 AM, Greg Woods wrote: I started this thread because I was trying to install an F20 VM under VirtualBox on an F19 system. I do know how to use VB to connect the DVD ISO to the VM and install an OS. The problem is that when I do this with the F20 ISO, syslinux boots and the first Anaconda selection screen comes up. I select Install Fedora, and I get nothing but a black screen after that. I still have not solved this problem. I have never had this problem but I see several users post about it. As I recall it the suggestions were 'to install in text mode' Thanks for that idea. It didn't work, but it did tell me what's wrong. Somehow, the version of VirtualBox that I have doesn't actually support 64-bit VMs, even though it comes from an x86_64 RPM: # rpm -qa | fgrep VirtualBox VirtualBox-4.3-4.3.6_91406_fedora18-1.x86_64 But when I do start the install in text mode (and erase quiet from the kernel command line), the error message is that it's a 32-bit CPU and I'm trying to boot a 64-bit kernel. Is it actually possible to install a 64-bit VM in VirtualBox, and if so, where do I get a version that supports it? The one I got came straight from the Downloads page at virtualbox.org, and when creating the VM by pressing the New button, it doesn't give any 64 bit choices, just Fedora. FWIW. On my F19 system [egreshko@meimei ~]$ rpm -qa | fgrep VirtualBox VirtualBox-4.3-4.3.6_91406_fedora18-1.x86_64 [egreshko@meimei ~]$ uname -a Linux meimei 3.12.5-200.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Dec 17 22:21:14 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux On the F20 VM . [egreshko@f20f ~]$ uname -a Linux f20f.greshko.com 3.12.5-302.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Dec 17 20:42:32 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux So, with the same rpm from Oracle that you have, I have no problem. I guess you're 100% certain your host system is running a 64bit F19? :-) :-) Or, maybe, there is a bug in VBox running on your F19 system that fails to detect your hardware/OS is 64 bit? -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?
On 12/24/13 09:12, Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'll test further later. I decided to test for you. :-) After making the suggested changes. [root@meimei ~]# mount -o ro,nfsvers=4 192.168.0.196:/home /mnt [root@meimei ~]# mount | grep mnt 192.168.0.196:/home on /mnt type nfs4 (ro,relatime,vers=4.0,rsize=262144,wsize=262144,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,port=0,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,clientaddr=192.168.0.18,local_lock=none,addr=192.168.0.196) [root@meimei ~]# umount /mnt [root@meimei ~]# mount -o ro,nfsvers=3 192.168.0.196:/home /mnt mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
On 12/24/13 13:27, Greg Woods wrote: On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 09:41 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: FWIW. On my F19 system [egreshko@meimei ~]$ rpm -qa | fgrep VirtualBox VirtualBox-4.3-4.3.6_91406_fedora18-1.x86_64 [egreshko@meimei ~]$ uname -a Linux meimei 3.12.5-200.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Dec 17 22:21:14 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux $ uname -a Linux mongoliad.gregandeva.net 3.11.10-200.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 2 20:28:03 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux $ rpm -qa | fgrep VirtualBox VirtualBox-4.3-4.3.6_91406_fedora18-1.x86_64 maybe, there is a bug in VBox running on your F19 system that fails to detect your hardware/OS is 64 bit? That's certainly what it looks like. I may also try an older version of VB, or update my kernel to the most recent version. I guess I'd be interested in the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
On 12/24/13 14:06, Ed Greshko wrote: I guess I'd be interested in the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo And maybe lshw -C processor | grep width lscpu | grep CPU op-mode for completeness. :-) Who knows how VBox goes about making its decisions. BTW, everything worked fine for me on earlier F19 kernels. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?
On 12/24/13 17:21, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: After making the suggested changes. [root@meimei ~]# mount -o ro,nfsvers=4 192.168.0.196:/home /mnt [root@meimei ~]# mount | grep mnt 192.168.0.196:/home on /mnt type nfs4 (ro,relatime,vers=4.0,rsize=262144,wsize=262144,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,port=0,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,clientaddr=192.168.0.18,local_lock=none,addr=192.168.0.196) [root@meimei ~]# umount /mnt [root@meimei ~]# mount -o ro,nfsvers=3 192.168.0.196:/home /mnt mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported I tried disallowing v2 and v3 on Fedora 19 and failed. cat /proc/fs/nfsd/versions shows that v2 and v3 are allowed by the kernel and mount -t -o nfsvers=3 ... succeeds. I ssh'd into a RHEL 6 box and an Ubuntu 14.04 VM where I know that v2 and v3 are disabled. cat /proc/fs/nfsd/versions shows that v2 and v3 are disallowed and mount -t -o nfsvers=3 ... fails. I must've done something wrong on Fedora 19. I'll have to try again later, but I can't see anything wrong in my setup offhand. On an F20 system where I'm doing the testing root@f20f ~]# cat /proc/fs/nfsd/versions -2 -3 +4 +4.1 -4.2 Shows only 4 and 4.1 allowed. I suppose I could try it on F19 for you at some point. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?
On 12/24/13 21:24, Robert P. J. Day wrote: just to explain where this all came from, i was working off of what i was seeing on a RHEL (actually CentOS) 6.5 system, where the config file /etc/sysconfig/nfs had helpful comments which allowed me to tweak that file thusly: # Define which protocol versions mountd # will advertise. The values are no or yes # with yes being the default MOUNTD_NFS_V2=no MOUNTD_NFS_V3=no ... snip ... # Optional arguments passed to rpc.nfsd. See rpc.nfsd(8) # Turn off v2 and v3 protocol support RPCNFSDARGS=-N 2 -N 3 if i make the above changes and restart NFS (on the RHEL system), the *only* NFS-related entries i see in the output of rpcinfo -p are: 134 tcp 2049 nfs 134 udp 2049 nfs and that's *it*, nothing more, which is what i expected. sadly, i don't have access to my fedora 20 box at the moment, but all i was doing was trying to produce the same result -- only those two lines in the output of rpcinfo -p. i can see that the *effect* of the earlier suggestions is the same, in that only NFSv4 is supported, but there is still that crud in the output of rpcinfo -p that seems irrelevant. oh, and on the RHEL 6.5 system, the contents of the file /proc/fs/nfsd/versions correctly contains: -2 -3 +4 -4.1 OK. In any event, I think the original question has been answered. Yes, you can configure nfs on Fedora to allow only NFSv4. Agreed? -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?
On 12/24/13 23:07, Leonid Flaks wrote: Did you look into /etc/nfsmount.conf file? It has lots of useful hints in comments and seems to be able to control NFS versions at 3 levels - per mount point, per server and globally. It is done on the client end. That is OKbut doesn't fit the bill for what the OP wanted. The OP wanted to limit the versions being offered by the server. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
On 12/24/13 23:59, Greg Woods wrote: flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm ida arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid bogomips: 6995.85 clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 39 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: And maybe lshw -C processor | grep width lscpu | grep CPU op-mode [root@mongoliad mythtv]# lshw -C processor | grep width width: 64 bits [root@mongoliad mythtv]# lscpu | grep CPU op-mode CPU op-mode(s):32-bit, 64-bit Time to file a bugzilla with Oracle. :-) -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Tool to convert a video DVD for YouTube uploading
On 12/26/13 20:33, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, I have a video DVD with the following structure: $ dir AUDIO_TS VIDEO_TS $ I would like to upload the video into YouTube. However, it seems that I have first to convert the video DVD to one of the formats accepted by YouTube. Could someone please direct me about how to achieve that in Fedora? Thanks in advance, I have used dvdrip with success. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Tool to convert a video DVD for YouTube uploading
On 12/26/13 20:59, Paul Smith wrote: On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: I have a video DVD with the following structure: $ dir AUDIO_TS VIDEO_TS $ I would like to upload the video into YouTube. However, it seems that I have first to convert the video DVD to one of the formats accepted by YouTube. Could someone please direct me about how to achieve that in Fedora? I have used dvdrip with success. Thanks, Frank, David and Ed. Unfortunately, I do not have access to the footage. I will follow Ed's advice. I guess dvirip is a command-line tool. To which format do you convert to? Do you recall the exact command? It is actually a gui tool with many options. I converted to avi. It has been a while since I've last used it...but it may be able to do mp4 as well. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Tool to convert a video DVD for YouTube uploading
On 12/27/13 07:28, Paul Smith wrote: On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 11:15 PM, John Wendel jwende...@comcast.net wrote: Give Handbrake a try. It produces mp4 or mkv output with great quality and the output will be much smaller than your VOB files. Thanks, John. Is handbrake in Fedora repos? It seems not. No, it isn't. FWIW, handbrake and dvdrip are similar in that they are GUI fontends to command line tools such as transcode and ffmpeg. You mentioned earlier about the quality. That can be improved on a rip by making changes the the options in dvdrip. If you go with the default you may not get optimal results. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What happened to 'play' command line music player?
On 12/27/13 08:31, Edik Landaveri wrote: Please, can you tell me why I can't find the 'play' command line music player. It used to be on the Fedora repositories 'till a few releases ago. Was it outdated not developed anymore? I liked it because it just let me play my ogg files on the fly without even going to runlevel 5. If it's no longer developed? It's something similar? Not CMUS or higher end one, which allows you to build playlists and the like. My music is on ogg format so I just one a simple command line music player. Thanks a lot Happy New Year. It is still there in F20. yum whatprovides /usr/bin/play sox-14.4.1-4.fc20.x86_64 : A general purpose sound file conversion tool Repo: fedora Matched from: Filename: /usr/bin/play -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome-terminal in F20 defaults to / for the initial directory
On 12/28/13 22:28, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Michael Schwendt writes: On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 21:47:56 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Previously, experimentation showed that gnome-terminal spawns a shell with the current directory inherited from the parent process, and nautilus now appears to run with its current directory as /. It doesn't do that here. It's specific to your machine. I'm guessing that in F19 nautilus 3.8 ran with $HOME for its current directory, and F20's nautilus 3.10 runs from /. Just guessing that this is really nautilus's bug. I think a good argument can be made for nautilus to reset to $HOME after forking off a child process for a launched application, if it's running from /. Too much speculation. It's good that you can show that it does that for your machine, but more interesting would be to find out why/when it does that. It is not user-specific configuration. This occurs for newly-created users too. I have not done anything to nautilus, I don't even know where its configuration settings are. Whatever it is, it certainly seems unique to your system. I have a newly installed F20 system and nautilus starts with the user's home directory and when I create a desktop icon for gnome-terminal it starts in the user's home directory. The one thing I've not seen is anyone posting the contents of the desktop file. Mine is [egreshko@f20f Desktop]$ cat gnome-terminal.desktop [Desktop Entry] Comment[en_US]= Comment= Exec=/usr/bin/gnome-terminal GenericName[en_US]=Gnome Terminal GenericName=Gnome Terminal Icon=utilities-terminal MimeType= Name[en_US]=gnome-terminal Name=gnome-terminal StartupNotify=true Terminal=false TerminalOptions= Type=Application X-DBUS-ServiceName= X-DBUS-StartupType= X-KDE-SubstituteUID=false X-KDE-Username= -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
gnome, gnome-terminal desktop icon oddity
The thread with the subject of gnome-terminal in F20 defaults to / for the initial directory prompted me to do some testing and I've found an oddity. The desktop file is as follows... [egreshko@f20f ]$ cat Desktop/gnome-terminal.desktop [Desktop Entry] Comment[en_US]= Comment= Exec=/usr/bin/gnome-terminal --working-directory=$HOME/Desktop GenericName[en_US]=Gnome Terminal GenericName=Gnome Terminal Icon=utilities-terminal MimeType= Name[en_US]=gnome-terminal Name=gnome-terminal StartupNotify=true Terminal=false TerminalOptions= Type=Application X-DBUS-ServiceName= X-DBUS-StartupType= X-KDE-SubstituteUID=false X-KDE-Username= If I click on the desktop icon in KDE the --working-directory option is honored. However, if I double click on the desktop icon in GNOME that parameter has no effect unless I replace $HOME with the actual path name. So, for some reason GNOME is not expanding the $HOME variable. Also, if I execute /usr/bin/gnome-terminal --working-directory=$HOME/Desktop from within an existing terminal session $HOME will be expanded. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047116 Ed -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: I'm trying to install intel xdk
On 12/30/13 11:26, William Biggs wrote: I'm trying to install intel xdk software . Has any one got it to to work ? If so how . it is asking for libudev.so.0 . I can not find it Delete the symbolic link for libudev.so.0 in /opt/intel/XDK. Then. ln -s /usr/lib64/libudev.so.1 libudev.so.0 Assuming, of course, that you're using the 64-bit distribution. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix
On 12/31/13 02:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: An unintended consequence of no default MTA in f20 is no local deliver of system mail. It IS possible to just ignore (or leave it to the logs) stuff going on in a desktop system, but services like logwatch are very helpful to maintain a healthy system. Plus there is cron for regular tasks we like to perform. So no MTA seems good IF we can configure mailx to do the local deliveries. I am kind of assuming that some changes to /etc/mail.rc might do part of the job. Probably some /bin/sendmail script that maps sendmail arguments to a mailx call. Plus if you DO install sendmail or postfix, it should undo this setup. I suppose I should submit a bug report on this as the best way to get the developer's attention. But does anyone have any good recommendation(s) on how to do this? I kind of like no MTA on resource straped systems, but we need to address local delivery. I can't see what the problem is. yum install sendmailgets you what was before. Is this really an insurmountable obstacle? -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix
On 12/31/13 10:14, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 08:06:37PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I can see why the securities boundary issue means that a secure process with elevated privledges has to do the writing to /var/mail, and mailx does not run as such. Thus we need a real MTA for this purpose and choose sendmail or postfix. All that is fine, and I follow the reasoning. But saying mailx cannot do the job is contradictory to Frank's experience in the original thread. I would like to know what is the bit that makes Frank's setup work so that I can replicate it on my less powerful machines. First of all, let me reiterate one thing. sendmail does not do local delivery by itself. It relies on another program to do this. In the default configuration (sendmail.mc) on Fedora it is defined to use procmail for local delivery. Now, if you (pl) would do a bit of man page reading you'd find in man crond -m This option allows you to specify a shell command to use for sending Cron mail output instead of using sendmail(8) This com‐ mand must accept a fully formatted mail message (with headers) on standard input and send it as a mail message to the recipients specified in the mail headers. Specifying the string off (i.e., crond -m off) will disable the sending of mail. So, you can edit /etc/sysconfig/crond to contain CRONDARGS=-m/bin/procmail systemctl restart crond.service Now, the only problem is that procmail cannot initially create files in /var/mail. So, to get this to work you'll need to do, as root touch /var/mail/username chown username:mail /var/mail/username I know this works with procmail but not sure about mailx. You can certainly test So, you don't need sendmail. procmail will do just fine. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix
On 12/31/13 10:50, Ed Greshko wrote: So, you don't need sendmail. procmail will do just fine. I should mention one downside to using this approach. The mail which crond feeds to the mailer lacks a Date: header. So, if you use this, or potentially, another mailer such as mailx the message in your inbox will look similar to this From: (Cron Daemon) egreshko To: egreshko Subject: Cron egreshko@f20f du -h --max-depth=1 /home/egreshko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk X-Cron-Env: XDG_SESSION_ID=61 X-Cron-Env: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1001 X-Cron-Env: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 X-Cron-Env: HELL=/bin/bash X-Cron-Env: PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin X-Cron-Env: MAILTO=egreshko X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh X-Cron-Env: HOME=/home/egreshko X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=egreshko X-Cron-Env: USER=egreshko -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 journalctl
On 12/31/13 19:24, Frank Murphy wrote: Has anyone found a way to: journalctl | grep last 10 minutes man journalctl --since=, --until= Start showing entries on or newer than the specified date, or on or older than the specified date, respectively. Date specifications should be of the format 2012-10-30 18:17:16. If the time part is omitted, 00:00:00 is assumed. If only the seconds component is omitted, :00 is assumed. If the date component is omitted, the current day is assumed. Alternatively the strings yesterday, today, tomorrow are understood, which refer to 00:00:00 of the day before the current day, the current day, or the day after the current day, respectively. now refers to the current time. Finally, relative times may be specified, prefixed with - or +, referring to times before or after the current time, respectively. ??? -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 journalctl
On 12/31/13 20:25, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 20:17:42 +0800 Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 12/31/13 19:24, Frank Murphy wrote: Has anyone found a way to: journalctl | grep last 10 minutes man journalctl --since=, --until= Start showing entries on or newer than the specified date, or on or older than the specified date, respectively. Date specifications should be of the format 2012-10-30 18:17:16. If the time part is omitted, 00:00:00 is assumed. If only the seconds component is omitted, :00 is assumed. If the date component is omitted, the current day is assumed. Alternatively the strings yesterday, today, tomorrow are understood, which refer to 00:00:00 of the day before the current day, the current day, or the day after the current day, respectively. now refers to the current time. Finally, relative times may be specified, prefixed with - or +, referring to times before or after the current time, respectively. ??? Been there already culdn'f find a last 10mins How does that give me 10 mins, and every 10 mins, without enternining specific time crontab -e */10 * * * * * journalclt -b -10 | mailx Journalctl for last 10 mins user Confused, hence the Q? Not thinking straight since it is 3 hrs to New Year's. But, a hack would be. 1,11,21,31,41,51 * * * * /usr/bin/date +%Y-%m-%d\ %H:%M:%S /tmp/mydate 0,10,20,30,50,50 * * * * journalctl --since=`cat /tmp/mydate` | mailx Journalctl for last 10 mins user There probably is a better way to get a timestamp from 10 minutes ago. And I can't now wrap my head around the relative times part of the man page. Too much vodka. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 journalctl
On 12/31/13 21:21, Jonathan Dieter wrote: On Tue, 2013-12-31 at 11:24 +, Frank Murphy wrote: Has anyone found a way to: journalctl | grep last 10 minutes journalctl --since -600 And a Happy New Year to you too. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: suspend or hibernate
On 01/02/14 06:09, Richard Vickery wrote: I just called up the gnome-tweak-tool: what's the difference between suspend and hibernate? It gives these, among other sleeping actions when folding the computer up. Just curious - hibernate doesn't have a man page. suspend keeps the system powered on, but in a low power mode. No computing is done but the current working state is kept in memory. Resume from suspend is very (or should be) quick. hibernate places memory on disk and the system is completely powered off. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NetworkManager
On 01/03/14 05:25, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: The problem, for me at least, with KDE's kde-plasma-nm is that it doesn't work, whereas Gnome's network-manager-applet works perfectly. I spent a couple of hours yesterday trying to get a laptop on which I had just installed a KDE Fedora Spin to connect to my home network, using kde-plasma-nm. No connection and no indication of what the problem could be, though it's possible that I just did something really stupid like not being finding the Connect button or whatever. Network-manager-applet worked perfectly on the first try; I didn't even have to enter the hot spot info, which was available from data that I had entered into NetworkManager using kde-plasma-nm. Any advice about how to use kde-plasma-nm or what might be wrong with it is earnestly I tested just now and I had no real trouble with it. I don't have a laptop. I used a VBox VM and a USB WiFi dongle. 1. Plugged in the dongle and connected it to the VM. 2. Clicked on the network icon in the systray, no changes. Clicked to close and waited 5 or so seconds and clicked again. 3. Several Access points listed under Unknown Connection. 4. Clicked on my home AP and a password prompt and a few check-boxes were available. The one thing I didn't like was you could click on the wrench in the upper right but when you did the next display showed information about the connection but the Edit Connection button was grayed out. 5. Entered password and got connected after a few seconds. 6. I now could go back and click on the wrench and Edit Connection as I want. I find it odd that I would have to allow a connection to fail with default settings before being allowed to edit it when I know the defaults wouldn't be successful. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: akmod isn't reliable
On 01/03/14 06:45, Powell, Michael wrote: Wrong list, this should be discussed on the RPM Fusion mailing list. Richard Hmm... how so? [egreshko@meimei ~]$ yum info akmods Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit Installed Packages Name: akmods Arch: noarch Version : 0.5.1 Release : 3.fc19 Size: 28 k Repo: installed Summary : Automatic kmods build and install tool URL : http://rpmfusion.org/Packaging/KernelModules/Akmods ^ License : MIT Description : Akmods startup script will rebuild akmod packages during system : boot while its background daemon will build them for kernels right : after they were installed. It is supplied by rpmfusion.org It is their software to support and they have their own mailing lists for users. FWIW, I have akmod-nvidia-304xx-304.116-1.fc19.x86_64 akmods-0.5.1-3.fc19.noarch installed and I've not run into any difficulties. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NetworkManager
On 01/03/14 13:03, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: Pretty much the same as what I did, except that I have a hidden network, so I had to enter its name. Now that I have connected once using network-manager-applet, kde-plasma-nm appears to work properly; when I click on the network identifier, I see a Connect button, which connects. So further investigation will not be easy. Foo! Thanks for your help. I see So, I think you're saying that if you have a network which doesn't broadcast the SSID you're unable to find a way to configure and then connect using kde-plasma-nm? -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NetworkManager
On 01/03/14 13:43, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 13:18 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/03/14 13:03, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: Pretty much the same as what I did, except that I have a hidden network, so I had to enter its name. Now that I have connected once using network-manager-applet, kde-plasma-nm appears to work properly; when I click on the network identifier, I see a Connect button, which connects. So further investigation will not be easy. Foo! Thanks for your help. I see So, I think you're saying that if you have a network which doesn't broadcast the SSID you're unable to find a way to configure and then connect using kde-plasma-nm? Yes ... before making a connection using network-manager-applet, I didn't see a Connect button, and when the computer was set to automatically connect to the network the connection didn't happen. Now that there has been a successful connection kde-plasma-nm works; I do see a Connect button. OK What I believe you could have done is 1. Click on the Network icon in the systray. 2. There *should* be a wrench in the lower right corner. Click it. 3. Select Edit Connections. 4. A new window opens and you can use the Add function. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NetworkManager
On 01/03/14 21:07, Timothy Murphy wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: I don't know how one can tell what application provides a particular icon or window? Usually by looking at the help menu/ about option or equivalent. I had tried that in this case. The window I get after right clicking on the KDE NM-applet and then on Network Management Settings - the window whose contents I do not understand - has a Help tab, but this brings up the Plasma manual, which does not appear to contain anything relevant. I don't know what is so difficult to understand. What is being shown, in the first screen, is the configuration of the Network Manager GUI and what info will potentially be displayed in the status for a given connection. Not all values will be available for a given connection type. For example, one Details to Show is Access Point (SSID) which will certainly not be shown for a wired connection. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NetworkManager
On 01/03/14 21:16, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/03/14 21:07, Timothy Murphy wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: I don't know how one can tell what application provides a particular icon or window? Usually by looking at the help menu/ about option or equivalent. I had tried that in this case. The window I get after right clicking on the KDE NM-applet and then on Network Management Settings - the window whose contents I do not understand - has a Help tab, but this brings up the Plasma manual, which does not appear to contain anything relevant. I don't know what is so difficult to understand. What is being shown, in the first screen, is the configuration of the Network Manager GUI and what info will potentially be displayed in the status for a given connection. Not all values will be available for a given connection type. For example, one Details to Show is Access Point (SSID) which will certainly not be shown for a wired connection. I think this illustrates what I think you're seeing. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2H9v1dYNcvpX2FuQ3F5OEhjeTA/edit?usp=sharing -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: akmod isn't reliable
On 01/03/14 21:46, Richard Shaw wrote: On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com mailto:vvma...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 21:48:32 + Powell, Michael michael_pow...@mentor.com mailto:michael_pow...@mentor.com wrote: I guess this is more of a general question, but sometimes after updating the kernel or nvidia drivers an akmod isn't regenerated and my system will begin to boot, fedora logo will show, but eventually it will dump to the systemd log of services being started and just sit there. I have all the required dependencies before the update because I can simply reboot to runlevel 1 or if I have an older kernel boot it and then manually `akmods --kernels`. So the question is... why isn't regeneration of the akmod reliable? I think it is reliable, you just need to wait it out. The rebuilding of akmod is being done for a given kernel while that kernel is running, so when you update the kernel, the akmod doesn't get built until you boot into it. And when you boot into it, systemd will at some point try to activate the akmod, find out that it doesn't exist, fail, and initiate a rebuild. Well, that's partially true. akmods also tries to build the module after kernel installation using the kernel posttrans trigger or something like that, there's a special directory where you can put script which will be run after a kernel is installed. DKMS uses the same method. There is where it SHOULD happen. The problem is that it's totally non-interactive and there's no notification to use user if it fails... It also attempts to build kernel modules on startup AND shutdown. So there is more or less 3 attempts. The problem is if it fails one of them it will usually fail all of them. FWIW, the only reason I use akmods is for installation of the nvidia module when a new kernel is available. I don't do auto updates so I simply check /var/cache/akmods/akmods.log to make sure I see something similar to 22 Dec 10:05:25 akmods: Checking kmods exist for 3.12.5-200.fc19.x86_64 22 Dec 10:05:26 akmods: Building and installing nvidia-304xx-kmod 22 Dec 10:05:26 akmods: Building RPM using the command '/bin/akmodsbuild --target x86_64 --kernels 3.12.5-200.fc19.x86_64 /usr/src/akmods/nvidia-304xx-kmod.latest' 22 Dec 10:05:43 akmods: Installing newly built rpms 22 Dec 10:05:52 akmods: Successful. is recorded when a new kernel is installed. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NetworkManager
On 01/04/14 00:51, Timothy Murphy wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: The window I get after right clicking on the KDE NM-applet and then on Network Management Settings - the window whose contents I do not understand - has a Help tab, but this brings up the Plasma manual, which does not appear to contain anything relevant. I don't know what is so difficult to understand. What is being shown, in the first screen, is the configuration of the Network Manager GUI and what info will potentially be displayed in the status for a given connection. Actually I don't see anything when I click on Access Point (SSID), nor is it shown anywhere that I can see. In any way, my question was: What do the four arrows do? More importantly, the old Network Management Configuration allowed one to change the settings, eg the SSID one is seeking, and it provided a little map showing what SSID's are visible, where one could click on the SSID one wanted. You are *not* supposed to see anything when you click on the items in that large window. The entries *define* what fields are to be *shown* when the status is displayed. Look at the very lower right of the screen where the status is being displayed from the systray. The items there reflect what is in the GUI configuration. Do you consider the change an improvement? Yes... -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NetworkManager
On 01/04/14 00:53, Timothy Murphy wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: I think this illustrates what I think you're seeing. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2H9v1dYNcvpX2FuQ3F5OEhjeTA/edit?usp=sharing Indeed. Do you consider this display self-explanatory? Yes. It was intuitively obvious..to me. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NetworkManager
On 01/04/14 08:37, Timothy Murphy wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: You are *not* supposed to see anything when you click on the items in that large window. The entries *define* what fields are to be *shown* when the status is displayed. Look at the very lower right of the screen where the status is being displayed from the systray. Nothing appears at the lower right of my screen. I am talking about the darn image I posted to google-drive. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2H9v1dYNcvpX2FuQ3F5OEhjeTA/edit?usp=sharing The items there reflect what is in the GUI configuration. Where is the GUI configuration? OK, let me be more specific This is the GUI configuration https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2H9v1dYNcvpaUh0V1VPMkpNVXc/edit?usp=sharing This is the status of a connection with fields displayed having been defined in the GUI configuration. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2H9v1dYNcvpOGFGLVhaT1FpOWc/edit?usp=sharing Do you consider the change an improvement? Yes... How do I find what access points are visible? Left clicking on the icon brings up this https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2H9v1dYNcvpTWM1LXNxSFFsMHM/edit?usp=sharing How do I choose one of them? Click on them Do you not miss the map showing available access points? They are listed... Where is the documentation explaining the new presentation? Don't know. Didn't look for it.. To me the new KDE-applet is an unmitigated disaster. I don't see what purpose it is meant to fulfil. To each his own. I'm happy with it. As a matter of fact, the new design is more consistent with other systray icons. Right Click the speaker icon and you get a menu to configure Kmix. Left-Click and you get to us Kmix. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NetworkManager
And, just for some additional info, I have added the Access Point MAC address to the list of information to be supplied by highlighting it on the left side list and then clicking on the right arrow to shift it to the right side list. The result is https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2H9v1dYNcvpcDR3WDlkUVhnanc/edit?usp=sharing See the difference with the other image I posted? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NetworkManager
On 01/04/14 20:04, Timothy Murphy wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Look at the very lower right of the screen where the status is being displayed from the systray. Nothing appears at the lower right of my screen. I am talking about the darn image I posted to google-drive. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2H9v1dYNcvpX2FuQ3F5OEhjeTA/edit?usp=sharing Sorry, I don't see anything at the lower right of this snapshot - which is identical to the one I showed - except OK and Cancel. Left clicking on the icon brings up this https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2H9v1dYNcvpTWM1LXNxSFFsMHM/edit?usp=sharing I don't get this. All I get is Active connections and my current connection. I do not see any other access points, which iwlist scan show are there. Do you have a line showing Unknown Connections? If so, is there a + to the left of Unknown? Clicking on the + will alternately expand/collapse the list. As you see in the image there are 2 unknown connections P874 and TP-LINK. [egreshko@f20f ~]$ iwlist wlp0s11u1 scan | grep ESSID ESSID:misty-net ESSID:P874 ESSID:TP-LINK -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NetworkManager
On 01/05/14 02:09, Timothy Murphy wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: All I get is Active connections and my current connection. I do not see any other access points, which iwlist scan show are there. Do you have a line showing Unknown Connections? If so, is there a + to the left of Unknown? Clicking on the + will alternately expand/collapse the list. Ok, I admit you were right. Now I see 2 of 3 connections shown by iwlist scan. So the system does work. There are times I get things right. :-) But I still believe it is a crazy and counter-intuitive setup. Also, I miss my little map with available access points shown in different directions. I never understood what the different directions indicated, but it was very pretty and made me feel I was in command. I've never encountered that map. Didn't want to mention that so as not to confuse myself. :-) To me, NM is like a military policeman - We know what is best for you, and you better like it. Isn't that pretty much the case for all software written by others? -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedup experience for upgrading fedora 19 to fedora 20
On 01/05/14 20:45, Rafnews wrote: On 05.01.2014 02:37, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sat, 04 Jan 2014 21:09:56 +0100 Rafnews raf.n...@gmail.com wrote: i replace the rhgb quiet by nomodeset and all the booting steps were displayed. and the virtual machine shutdown automatically :( the second time i changed the rhgb quiet by nomodeset i got the following error message: http://prntscr.com/2gip8o Getting stuck at wait for phymouth boot screen to quit is symptomatic of X failing to start. If you are trying to run Gnome3, it needs 3D graphics support, which is always iffy in virtual machines. GDM is also known for not quite shining in reliability... Boot into init 3 (add 3 to the kernel line at boot), and see if you can get successfully into the text console. Then take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what happened in the last attempt to start X. It might be the wrong video drivers, presence of experimental 3D support inside a virtual machine, or lack thereof, etc. Play with video hardware settings of the guest system, force X to use vesa driver, configure a non-Gnome3 DE and DM, etc. HTH, :-) Marko Hi Marko, yes i discovered that later on... anyway i still have the same issue with VM software tools. as you can see on http://prntscr.com/2gohfl Xorg.0.log is: http://prntscr.com/2gpghx i don't find any problem there... :( A. Your first link states... See 'systemctl status vmware-tools.service' for details. What is the output of that? -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedup experience for upgrading fedora 19 to fedora 20
On 01/06/14 06:03, Rafnews wrote: Sorry i forgot the link for that info...here it is: http://prntscr.com/2gujs4 i wonder if i can reinstall the VMWare tools under to text console ... I would consult the documentation for VMware as well as the support their support groups. You may also want to try running /etc/rc.d/init.d/vmware-tools start manually as well as examining the script to see what/where it is failing. Oh, and make sure you have the latest version of VMware installed! -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 install compat-gcc-34-g77 conflicts
On 01/06/14 21:00, Stephen Berg (Contractor) wrote: Trying to get compat-gcc-34-g77 installed for one of my users that is trying out F20 and it's failing. Transaction check error: file /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/3.4.6/32/crtbegin.o from install of compat-gcc-34-3.4.6-29.fc19.x86_64 conflicts with file from package gcc-4.8.2-7.fc20.x86_64 file /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/3.4.6/crtbegin.o from install of compat-gcc-34-3.4.6-29.fc19.x86_64 conflicts with file from package gcc-4.8.2-7.fc20.x86_64 Is there a fix for this or at least one in the works? Strange, I do not get those errors [root@f20f ~]# yum install compat-gcc-34-g77 Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package compat-gcc-34-g77.x86_64 0:3.4.6-29.fc19 will be installed -- Processing Dependency: compat-libf2c-34 = 3.4.6-29.fc19 for package: compat-gcc-34-g77-3.4.6-29.fc19.x86_64 -- Processing Dependency: compat-gcc-34 = 3.4.6-29.fc19 for package: compat-gcc-34-g77-3.4.6-29.fc19.x86_64 -- Processing Dependency: libg2c.so.0()(64bit) for package: compat-gcc-34-g77-3.4.6-29.fc19.x86_64 -- Running transaction check --- Package compat-gcc-34.x86_64 0:3.4.6-29.fc19 will be installed --- Package compat-libf2c-34.x86_64 0:3.4.6-29.fc19 will be installed -- Finished Dependency Resolution Dependencies Resolved == Package Arch Version Repository Size == Installing: compat-gcc-34-g77x86_643.4.6-29.fc19 fedora2.1 M Installing for dependencies: compat-gcc-34x86_643.4.6-29.fc19 fedora3.7 M compat-libf2c-34 x86_643.4.6-29.fc19 fedora 54 k Transaction Summary == Install 1 Package (+2 Dependent packages) Total download size: 5.8 M Installed size: 19 M Is this ok [y/d/N]: y Downloading packages: (1/3): compat-gcc-34-3.4.6-29.fc19.x86_64.rpm | 3.7 MB 00:00:02 (2/3): compat-gcc-34-g77-3.4.6-29.fc19.x86_64.rpm | 2.1 MB 00:00:01 (3/3): compat-libf2c-34-3.4.6-29.fc19.x86_64.rpm | 54 kB 00:00:00 -- Total1.3 MB/s | 5.8 MB 00:04 Running transaction check Running transaction test Transaction test succeeded Running transaction Installing : compat-libf2c-34-3.4.6-29.fc19.x86_64 1/3 Installing : compat-gcc-34-3.4.6-29.fc19.x86_64 2/3 Installing : compat-gcc-34-g77-3.4.6-29.fc19.x86_64 3/3 Verifying : compat-gcc-34-g77-3.4.6-29.fc19.x86_64 1/3 Verifying : compat-gcc-34-3.4.6-29.fc19.x86_64 2/3 Verifying : compat-libf2c-34-3.4.6-29.fc19.x86_64 3/3 Installed: compat-gcc-34-g77.x86_64 0:3.4.6-29.fc19 Dependency Installed: compat-gcc-34.x86_64 0:3.4.6-29.fc19 compat-libf2c-34.x86_64 0:3.4.6-29.fc19 Complete! [root@f20f ~]# uname -r 3.12.6-300.fc20.x86_64 -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fwd: Gnome 3 favorites list cut off at bottom of screen
On 01/07/14 10:18, Jake Dancer wrote: Hello, I'm running with a fully updated Fedora 20 system. When I click on the activities icon in the upper left corner, I get the favorites list, except the bottom part is now cut off. I believe Gnome should be switching to a small set of icons for the list. Up until a few days ago I would see the complete list using smaller icons, but no longer. I have quite a few packages installed on this system, so it's possible that one of them is messing up Gnome's icon switching software. Does anyone have any idea where Gnome hides the favorites list? I think it should be in my home directory, but multiple searches have not located it. I have this problem on multiple machines, but they all have the same packages installed. What I would like to do is temporarily remove each favorite item, one at a timeto see which icron is causing the trouble/ Any better ideas to try? Not being a GNOME user I don't have any particular better idea. However, your suggestion has one problem. The information about favorites it kept in ~/.config/dconf/user and is not plain text. [egreshko@meimei dconf]$ pwd /home/egreshko/.config/dconf [egreshko@meimei dconf]$ file user user: GVariant Database file, version 0 -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fwd: Gnome 3 favorites list cut off at bottom of screen
On 01/07/14 20:03, Jake Dancer wrote: Update. Now that I know where Gnome keeps my favorites information, I made a copy of this database file, then started removing entries from my favorites. The icons resize feature is still working. I got down to a single icon, which I could not remove. (There was no option to remove the last icon available.) I then removed the user file completely and rebooted. The user file returned with the single icon I had left. There must be another copy of the information from this file somewhere else. Any ideas where? I then began adding icons into my favorites selection. Each icron was added to the bottom of the chain, as they should. As the favorites icron chain got to the bottom of the screen, the chain scrolled off the bottom. I could still add icons but I could not see the bottom 3, or so, icons that I added last. As I added even more icons, the chain resized to use smaller icons, but I still could not see the bottom 3. It us almost as if somewhere something believes the screen is actually deeper that it really is by an inch or two. Any ideas how to fix this? Any ideas how to get the gnome-shell to rebuild the user file? Any ideas at all? I'll answer part of your question for which I got the answer by testing/observing. The user file returns with the single icon since the user file is read into memory at login and then apparently written out at logout. I don't know if this is done unconditionally or if the logout process first checks for the existence of the file. If you were to logout, then use ssh to login to the system and delete that file it will be recreated on login to GNOME but with a set of default applications what are stored someplace in the system files. FWIW, the max number I can add is 22 and get really tiny almost unrecognizable icond. If I add more, they seem to get added but other potentially disappear. Kind of late in my day. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: kde-plasma-nm disabled
On 01/07/14 23:45, Neal Becker wrote: Network is working fine, with a wired enet. I probably disabled nm a long time ago. Now I want to enable it (so I can try bridge). I have kde-plasma-nm-0.9.3.2-1.fc20.x86_64, but on my desktop, the net icon has a red X. If I try to edit connections/add connection, I don't see any wired interface names under 'restrict connection'. This suggests something's wrong - it's not learning the names of the interfaces. In /var/log/messages I see: Jan 7 10:27:34 nbecker7 dbus[624]: [system] Rejected send message, 3 matched rules; type=method_call, sender=:1.4740 (uid=1000 pid=8349 comm=/usr/bin/kde-nm-connection-editor ) interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties member=Get error name=(unset) requested_reply=0 destination=org.freedesktop.NetworkManager (uid=0 pid=602 comm=/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon ) Any idea how to proceed? On my laptop with working NM, if I go to the edit connections I see a list of several interfaces Since you don't recall how you disabled network manager What does ... systemctl status NetworkManager.service return? and ... In your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts Whatever interface file... Do you have a NM_CONTROLLED= line? -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Stale /var/run/nologin
On 01/08/14 20:29, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Steven P. Ulrick writes: On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 19:42:16 -0600 Steven Ulrick meow8...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, January 4, 2014, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: About ten hours after a reboot, a chance attempt to log in back to the server was rather rudely rejected with a: System is booting up. See pam_nologin(8) Connection closed by 192.168.0.2 A quick run back to the console revealed the existence of a ten hour old /var/run/nologin file as the culprit. Removing it put everything back in working order. Two things: 1. You are not alone! 2. Thanks for the workaround... OK... I guess #2 was a bit premature. I just had reason to log out of my KDE session. When I logged back in (or tried to), I was greeted with the dreaded System is booting up. See pam_nologin(8) When my system is in this state, I can get to a console, but it will not let me log in. I even tried to ssh from another system. The other system informs me of the following: System is booting up. See pam_nologin(8) For clarification, the remote system that I am attempting to ssh FROM is telling me that the system that I am trying to ssh INTO is in the following state: System is booting up. See pam_nologin(8) So, it appears that I have no workaround to this issue other than rebooting... No. According to the documentation, root is allowed to log in. You should be able to ssh as root. My original working theory was that /run/nologin was not getting cleared by whatever godforsaken systemd service is responsible for removing it, when the boot mostly completes. This was based on my /run/nologin's timestamp, which dated back to my system's boot. But if that's getting spuriously created, during a normal system state, then something indeed must be creating it, in the wild. Not going to be easy tracking it down. Perusing journalctl's man page, there doesn't seem to be a way to specify a time interval. Given /run/nologin's timestamp, it should be possible to track down what was started in that timeframe, but I do not see a way to specify a timeframe. Furthermore, journalctl's output seems to consist of merely log messages from systemd-started processes, rather than the actual log of what was started, and when. So, tell me again how logs kept as binary blobs are superior to plain text files. I'd start to hit Google, looking for way to find systemd's actual logs, and filtering them by a time interval. Seems silly to have to do that, but systemd is such a winner… Have a look here to see if their fix may apply to your situation https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811793 -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: lyx in fedora 20
On 01/08/14 21:34, Patrick Dupre wrote: OK, I guess that I understand. The lyx with fedora 20 is 2.0.6 while the version with fedora 19 was 2.0.7. Hence, the update has not been done! Are you sure about that? I just did a yum info lyx on an F19 system and I get Available Packages Name: lyx Arch: x86_64 Version : 2.0.6 Release : 1.fc19 Size: 3.6 M Repo: fedora/19/x86_64 -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
