[ANNOUNCE] Fixed in Apache OpenOffice 4.1.3: Three Security Vulnerabilities

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

[BCC to PMC; AOO Security]

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.3 includes fixes for three security vulnerabilities that 
are published with CVE (Common Vulnerability and Exposure) IDs.  Two are 
publicly disclosed as part of the release.

The complete list and the individual bulletins can be found via
.

Although there are no known exploits against any of these, users are urged to 
update their Apache OpenOffice to version 4.1.3.

 - Dennis




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RE: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

The WHOIS only provides the registration for the base domain name, in this case 
openoffice.org.

This is about who has the domain-name lease, not where the content is or how it 
is hosted.

In this particular case, templates.openoffice.org, a subdomain, forwards to a 
location on SourceForge.  The WHOIS tell you nothing about subdomains.  They 
are not registered.

Also, Apache Infrastructure is not about management of content, but providing 
the basic service.  In this case, the www.apache.org web site and also the 
subdomain setup.  But the content is either under control of the Apache 
OpenOffice project or, when forwarded to a different organization, under some 
sort of mutual operation.  Templates and Extensions are in the second category. 
 

Patricia Shanahan, on dev@, has identified a contact at SourceForge that this 
can be worked on with, and further discussion should be on dev@ where such 
technicalities are dealt with.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: DaveMainwaring [mailto:davemainwar...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:12
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at
> Openoffice
> 
> http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en
> openoffice.org registry whois Updated 1 second ago - Refresh Domain ID:
> D7200454-LROR
> WHOIS Server:
[ ... ]
> > The Apache OpenOffice PMC has authority.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:07 PM, toki  wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 25/09/2016 01:26, Dave Fisher wrote:
> > >> These sites are not hosted on Apache infrastructure.
> > >
> > > I hadn't realized that not only is
> > > http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en hosted on servers
> controlled
> > > by, and maintained by SourceForge, but that Apache  Infra had zero
> > > authority over what happens there.
> > >
> > > jonathon
> > >
> > >
> > > 
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RE: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

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[BCC users@openoffice.apache.org]

> -Original Message-
> From: James Knott [mailto:james.kn...@rogers.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 05:35
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org; supp...@formbirds.com
> Subject: Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at
> Openoffice
> 
> You sent this to a mail list for users of Apache Open Office.  We have
> nothing to do with the web site.
[orcmid] 

http://templates.openoffice.org is definitely found at the web site that is 
operated by the Apache OpenOffice project.  It makes sense that the project 
would be contacted.

However, the templates portion is operated by SourceForge.   

Unfortunately, this page is not helpful enough:
.

Someone who knows more about how to change entries or to delete them needs to 
be involved.

I am moving this to dev@ openoffice.org where it is more likely someone can 
help.

 - Dennis



> 
> 
> On 09/23/2016 11:24 PM, Formsbirds wrote:
> > Dear Webmaster,
> >
> > I'm writing to ask for adding "Nofollow" tag to the links that pointed
> to my site - formsbirds.com or remove them completely.
> > We found thousands of links pointed to our site from
> templates.openoffice.org. The links are under an account named
> susie...@yandex.com.
> > This was caused by a SEO team we hired. We want to get our templates
> shared to more users via your site and hired a SEO team to upload our
> templates to your site. But they are too aggressive and put too many
> links inside.
> > Now we found thousands of backlinks from your site, which are actually
> bad to our site.
> > We have contacted the SEO team to remove the links under the user
> account susie...@yandex.com, while they told us the account had been
> blocked and they couldn't log in to delete the links.
> > We ask for the removal of all the links, or just add "nofollow" tag to
> those links pointed to our website from your side. You can still keep
> the documents that have uploaded at your website if those templates ate
> useful to users, but please delete the links pointed to our site.
> > Katie Williams
> > Formsbirds.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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RE: Column Width

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Hi Jerry,

You will have better luck on the users list for LibreOffice, not for Apache 
OpenOffice.

Try .

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Grubesky [mailto:jer...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 16:01
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Column Width
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have Libre Office 5.2, just updated the old version.
> 
> When I set the column width on a spread sheet (such as 1.00”),  The
> width drifts
> slowly back to .99, .98, .97, etc all the way back to the default
> setting.  How can
> I get the width to hold where I set it, with out having it drift back?
> 
> Thanks.
> JG


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RE: OpenOffice using NetBeans plaform

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org]
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 09:24
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: RE: OpenOffice using NetBeans plaform
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: suhail ansari [mailto:iamsuhailans...@outlook.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 05:29
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: OpenOffice using NetBeans plaform
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >Now NetBeans will become an apache project. Is it
> > possible to re-write OpenOffice using NetBeans platform?
> [orcmid]
> 
> I don't understand what that means.
[orcmid] 

I received an off-list response that NetBeans provides a platform that a GUI 
application can run on top off.  

Although that still baffles me, I am unclear how that would work, unless the 
move to a Java application was done.  The Introduction to NetBeans suggests 
that the Platform works primarily for Java applications and it simplifies the 
creation of GUI applications (although it helps with non-GUI applications too).

In any case, any major approach to refactoring the code base needs to deal with 
these figures:

The Source Code for Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 consists of

   1.43 GB (1,541,226,333 bytes) of text in
 60,955 files, in
  6,429 folders.

It would take an army to figure out how to do that refactoring and then 
orchestrate it, with all of the testing needed every step of the way.  And we 
don't know, without more analysis whether it is even feasible, especially with 
regard to the GUI-facing code and the model beneath it.
> 
> I thought NetBeans is an IDE with an extensive collection of plug-ins.
> 
> Do you mean to somehow have the build system work in a way that
> integrated use of NetBeans is possible?
> 
> You could try that now.
> 
> Why would it matter whether NetBeans becomes Apache NetBeans in the
> future?  The migration to Apache has not started yet.  It will take some
> time.
[orcmid] 

I still don't understand what difference using NetBeans as a platform would 
prevent trying this whether or not NetBeans comes to Apache, unless it is a 
license issue.  If the patform is preserved in Apache NetBeans, the licensing 
has to be fixed in order for that to happen.  

> 
> >
> > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
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RE: OpenOffice using NetBeans plaform

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

> -Original Message-
> From: suhail ansari [mailto:iamsuhailans...@outlook.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 05:29
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: OpenOffice using NetBeans plaform
> 
> Hi guys,
>Now NetBeans will become an apache project. Is it
> possible to re-write OpenOffice using NetBeans platform?
[orcmid] 

I don't understand what that means.

I thought NetBeans is an IDE with an extensive collection of plug-ins.  

Do you mean to somehow have the build system work in a way that integrated use 
of NetBeans is possible?

You could try that now.

Why would it matter whether NetBeans becomes Apache NetBeans in the future?  
The migration to Apache has not started yet.  It will take some time.

> 
> Sent from Mail for
> Windows 10



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RE: Hello OOoTransit

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

> -Original Message-
> From: dan klutmeyer [mailto:danklutme...@hotmail.ca]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 20:45
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Hello OOoTransit
> 
> 
> I am curious as to why you have restricted access to this extension and
> several others. I have waited many months to see if this was a temporary
> thing but I can see it is more then that. So why even put it out there
> if its just for you and your buddies?   Or did the Open Source require
> that it be pubically listed and are unaware of it’s restricted access ?
>   Your name looks familiar and if you are who I am thinking ,you are a
> very helpful blogger and developer so maybe I am just misunderstanding
> something. Curiouser and curiouser the more I think about it lol. Have I
> found a rabbit hole ?
> As a monthly donater to Creative Commons and Free Software Forever when
> I see members of the Open Source and Apache restricting access to
> programs it makes me wonder who those of us who donate are helping. Is
> the Open Source really Open ? And who gets to decide who benefits and
> who doesn’t from the Open Source.
>  I wil await your reply 
> 

[orcmid] 

Dan,

There is not enough information to know what your problem is.

There is no OOoTransit extension on the Apache OpenOffice site, 
.

What do you mean that access is restricted to that extension and others?

Where are you finding these extensions, or where did you find them in the past?



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RE: The folder you selected does not contain a Java Runtime environment.

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Saifi,

This level of technical work should be directed to d...@openoffice.apache.org, 
where developer advice and participation is carried out.  Please use 
dev-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org to subscribe yourself and participate.  
Also, you may want to use the bugzilla to open issues on some of your items.

The users@ list is intended primarily for end-user discussion and assistance.  
Your technical questions are much deeper and are probably not being seen by 
developers here.

 - Dennis

PS: Apache OpenOffice is a Win32 x86 implementation and an x86 JRE is required, 
not an x64 one.  See if that makes a difference.

> -Original Message-
> From: Saifi Khan [mailto:saifi.k...@tensorx.io]
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 22:00
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: The folder you selected does not contain a Java Runtime
> environment.
> 
> Hi:
> 
> Running the AOO 4.2.0 nightly build for Windows, i am trying to specify
> the Java JRE environment.
> 
> Environment
>  . Windows 2016 TP5 server
>  . Java JRE 1.8.0 update 102
>  . AMD 64 APU A4
> 
> First of all the auto detection of the Java JRE environment does not
> happen.
> 
> So, i manually specify the following path
> 
> C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_102
> 
> Please see
> https://i.imgsafe.org/63600cc5a5.png
> 
> After a moment's delay, the followng dialog is seen.
> 
> The folder you selected does not contain a Java Runtime environment.
> 
> Please see
> https://i.imgsafe.org/6363a357ad.png
> 
> Attempting to specify the parent folder
> 
> C:\Program Files\Java
> 
> or the child folder
> 
> C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_102\lib
> 
> leads to the same error.
> 
> Any pointer's as to how to address this issue ?
> 
> 
> warm regards
> Saifi.
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RE: Conversion Problem

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Issue 127104, <https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127104> now has the 
PDF created from Word 2016 and the original .docx file as attachments.

I described this as incorrect rendering of Arabic text, although that might not 
be the actual language.  If I should correct that, let me know.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org]
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 11:47
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: 'Amir Mohsen Hosseinzadeh' <am1hosseinza...@gmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Conversion Problem
> 
> I confirm that the myfile.docx renders very differently between
> Microsoft Office Word 2016 and Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2.
> 
> The file is in an RTL script and there are Apache OpenOffice
> discrepancies with regard to page layout (such as on the first page) and
> with margin alignment and with table columns not switching to RTL.
> There are also incorrect and missing image presentations.
> 
> I have created a PDF of how Microsoft Word renders the file, for use in
> comparison with Apache OpenOfice rendering and that of others.  It is
> too large to be accepted on this mailing list.
> 
> I will open a Bugzilla with the original .docx and the .pdf as
> attachments so that we all know what we're talking about.
> 
>  - Dennis
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Amir Mohsen Hosseinzadeh [mailto:am1hosseinza...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 20:44
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: Fwd: Conversion Problem
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > Hope you are doing great. Thanks for your great openOffice software
> > I have a problem and just don't know what I should do. When I convert
> my
> > docx files to odt, the output file is not what I expected to be.
> > Although I have used another (Libreoffice and others) converters, but
> > the output is the same.
> >
> > Could you please check the attached sample file for any issue to
> figure
> > out what the problem is?
> >
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Amir
> 
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RE: Conversion Problem

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

I confirm that the myfile.docx renders very differently between Microsoft 
Office Word 2016 and Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2.

The file is in an RTL script and there are Apache OpenOffice discrepancies with 
regard to page layout (such as on the first page) and with margin alignment and 
with table columns not switching to RTL.  There are also incorrect and missing 
image presentations.

I have created a PDF of how Microsoft Word renders the file, for use in 
comparison with Apache OpenOfice rendering and that of others.  It is too large 
to be accepted on this mailing list.

I will open a Bugzilla with the original .docx and the .pdf as attachments so 
that we all know what we're talking about.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Amir Mohsen Hosseinzadeh [mailto:am1hosseinza...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 20:44
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Fwd: Conversion Problem
> 
> Hello
> 
> Hope you are doing great. Thanks for your great openOffice software
> I have a problem and just don't know what I should do. When I convert my
> docx files to odt, the output file is not what I expected to be.
> Although I have used another (Libreoffice and others) converters, but
> the output is the same.
> 
> Could you please check the attached sample file for any issue to figure
> out what the problem is?
> 
> 
> Best Regards
> Amir


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RE: Ribbon Interface

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

This is as good a place for your question as any.  

You can tell there are strong differences felt about other user interfaces.

In any case, no developers have taken an interest in this and it won't happen 
unless a volunteer developer with the capacity, capability, and will to 
undertake something like that offers to provide it.  

Since it would impact the Linux and MacOSX interfaces too, this seems very 
unlikely.  

 - Dennis

PS: To the degree that there is intellectual property involved, I can't imagine 
that Microsoft would license it.

> -Original Message-
> From: Tai Nen Chow [mailto:tnc...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 19:33
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org
> Subject: Re: Ribbon Interface
> 
> Hi Dennis,
> 
> 
> 
> I agree with your view about file-format level.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Actually i would like to post the question to OpenOffice, until one the
> users informed that I had posted to Users Group.  Anyway I still
> appreciate Dennis and other Users feedback.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:11 AM
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Ribbon Interface
> 
> This is a Ford versus Chevrolet matter (or Toyota versus BMW, if you
> prefer).  Absolute statements like this are not helpful.  There are
> folks who find the ribbon and its growing consistency across Windows to
> be very useful, especially since you can make the whole thing disappear
> and pop down only when you want it.
> 
> Regardless, there is no plan and no likelihood that Apache OpenOffice
> will offer a ribbon interface.  Apache OpenOffice was never intended as
> a Microsoft Office "work alike," and there is no indication of developer
> interest in any such massive change to the interface.
> 
> In my view, there is greater benefit in having better interchange at the
> file-format level with fewer conversion failures in either direction.
> 
>  - Dennis
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chuck Davis [mailto:cjgun...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 05:29
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Ribbon Interface
> >
> > Hopefully, never.  It's a major productivity killer!!
> >
> > I'm currently working on a project where I've had to use excelwhat
> a
> > pain!!
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Tai Nen Chow <tnc...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, just wonder when will Open Office release ribbon interface
> > version?
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Open Office Supporter(Malaysia)
> > >
> 
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RE: MS Office Publisher

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Barker [mailto:b.m.bar...@btinternet.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 13:19
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: Terry Hocevar <tcarna...@comcast.net>
> Subject: RE: MS Office Publisher
> 
> At 11:57 09/09/2016 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> >There are functions of Publisher that OpenOffice Writer does not
> >have (such as column flow into non-contiguous pages) ...
> 
> I hesitate to query an expert, and I'm not sure exactly what you mean
> here. But in OpenOffice Writer I can:
> o Create two frames - which can be on unrelated pages, of course.
> o Link the frames.
> o Insert text into the first frame - which then flows into the other.
> o Select the text (so in both frames).
> o Insert a section with multiple columns. The single section contains
> all the text and is divided between the linked frames.
> 
> Does that achieve what you describe?
[orcmid] 

Yes, that is what I was thinking of.

I don't understand why there has to be a single section, although that works in 
Publisher.

> 
> Brian Barker
> 
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RE: MS Office Publisher

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

> -Original Message-
> From: Terry Hocevar [mailto:tcarna...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:49
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: RE: MS Office Publisher
> 
> Hi Wade, I am looking to replace MS Publisher with something less
> expensive and easier to get. I am pretty good using Publisher. Does
> Write work like Word or Publisher or a mix? I was looking for a specific
> product or something to move to.
> 
> Terry
[orcmid] 

It is at best a mix.  There are functions of Publisher that OpenOffice Writer 
does not have (such as column flow into non-contiguous pages) but that might 
not matter to you.  And Publisher tends to depend on Word as a choice source of 
content to import into Publisher.

Publisher 2016 is included with the desktop applications provided under Office 
365 Home and Personal (along with Access).  That's how I happen to have it 
(except with 365 Business).  If you only need a non-business subscription to 
Office 365, those would seem to be useful. 

If you are still running Publisher, it should be easy enough to install Apache 
OpenOffice and do your own comparison testing.  

And there are many Desktop Publishing Software products around, and a few are 
free.  Without knowing more about your needs, other than as a beginner, it is 
difficult to recommend particular options among them.

Just remember, however you approach this, to always keep progressive backups 
and be careful how you close your work and shut down your computer, avoiding 
any kind of loss of your work to only the most recent changes.

 - Dennis
 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Wade Smart [mailto:wadesm...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 8:04 AM
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: MS Office Publisher
> 
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 6:41 AM, toki  wrote:
> > On 08/09/2016 23:58, Terry Hocevar wrote:
> >> Do you have a similar product or recommendation for beginner
> newsletter publisher?
> >
> > Write will do a better job than anything MSPublisher could ever dream
> > of being able to do.
> >
> >
> > jonathon
> 
> I think Toki said a beginner to publishing, not a specific product.
> 
> Toki, check out http://fullcirclemagazine.org/  Its a linux mag but they
> talk about the tech they use to produce it. Write is one one of their
> tools. I think they even have a article series about publishing.
> 
> Wade
> 
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> Registered Linux Machine: #408606
> Linux since June 2005
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RE: Ribbon Interface

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

This is a Ford versus Chevrolet matter (or Toyota versus BMW, if you prefer).  
Absolute statements like this are not helpful.  There are folks who find the 
ribbon and its growing consistency across Windows to be very useful, especially 
since you can make the whole thing disappear and pop down only when you want it.

Regardless, there is no plan and no likelihood that Apache OpenOffice will 
offer a ribbon interface.  Apache OpenOffice was never intended as a Microsoft 
Office "work alike," and there is no indication of developer interest in any 
such massive change to the interface.  

In my view, there is greater benefit in having better interchange at the 
file-format level with fewer conversion failures in either direction.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Chuck Davis [mailto:cjgun...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 05:29
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Ribbon Interface
> 
> Hopefully, never.  It's a major productivity killer!!
> 
> I'm currently working on a project where I've had to use excelwhat a
> pain!!
> 
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Tai Nen Chow  wrote:
> 
> > Hi, just wonder when will Open Office release ribbon interface
> version?
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Open Office Supporter(Malaysia)
> >


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RE: contribution to OpenOffice

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

There is a misunderstanding about what being an Apache sponsor signifies.

Apache sponsors provide funding to the Apache Software Foundation.  There is no 
connection with how those funds are used (although a significant support to the 
Infrastructure operations is in there).  There is also no connection with 
provision of developers or anything like that.  It also needs to be understood 
that the Apache Software Foundation does not pay developers.

Some sponsors, and other organizations, allow developers and other staff to 
contribute to Apache OpenOffice projects, often as part of their working 
activities.  Apache OpenOffice has had contributors who were operating under 
those conditions.  This is almost always because the contributor's employer has 
a practical use for the result of the effort.  That was also the case for 
OpenOffice and is the case for other Apache projects.  When the practical 
result is no longer relevant to the organization, the developers are invariably 
assigned to different work, although they might continue on their own time.

Student developers and their instructors do approach the Apache OpenOffice 
project, especially for QA activities which can be small and focused enough to 
be good student projects.  The Google Summer of Code for 2017 would be another 
case.  However, those activities required mentoring and careful support.  
Apache OpenOffice developers have not volunteered as GSoC mentors and defined 
any projects in the recent past.  Whether that happens in 2017 depends a great 
deal on whether the project can expand its capacity for supporting such work.

That is why these suggestions are fine, and are made regularly, yet nothing can 
be done until capable developers arrive that can provide the capacity to 
support student mentoring.  Our shortage is in expertise and having capacity 
for these activities along with the ones that volunteer experts choose to focus 
on.

Now perhaps it is more understandable why you have been asked what expertise 
you have to offer that could support what you hope to see.  And with regard to 
how all projects under the ASF are expected to operate, I think you need to 
address the Apache Software Foundation about that after becoming familiar with 
its flavor of "ecosystem", .

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: suhail ansari [mailto:iamsuhailans...@outlook.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 08:55
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: wadesm...@gmail.com
> Subject: contribution to OpenOffice
> 
> I am a long time user of OpenOffice, I think people working in Apache
> should try to build a developer friendly eco system just like Linux
> foundation.  I am not a developer so I can't help in technical side of
> OpenOffice. Apache has already lots of sponsors. ASF should talk to many
> of its sponsors for help and contribution also ASF can work with various
> universities for help in technical side, Student should be able to
> access, learn and contribute to ASF projects


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Re: end of Apache?

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

> -Original Message-
> From: Elaine [mailto:safire...@aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 12:21
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org
> Subject: Spam (7.262):Re: end of Apache?
> 
> I would be terribly saddened if I didn't have open office.
[orcmid] 

Yes, I think it would be a serious loss.  Not just for up to 50 million users, 
but also for the stability of the OpenDocument Format and for users who would 
be better served in the future.

At the same time, the practical limitations are what they are and it depends 
more on those who can develop the software and not so much on those who benefit 
freely from using it.

 - Dennis
> 
> 
> The best job goes to the person who can get it done without passing the
> buck or coming back with excuses. ~~ Napoleon Hill
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
> To: users <users@openoffice.apache.org>
> Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2016 1:19 pm
> Subject: RE: end of Apache?
> 
> The LWN article does include the entire message that kicked this off.
> 
> This discussion began on the d...@openoffice.apache.org list.
> You can find more information and discussion there.
> 
> There is another article already today that quotes from much of the dev@
> discussion, <http://arstechnica.com/information-
> technology/2016/09/openoffice-after-years-of-neglect-could-shut-down/>.
> 
>  - Dennis
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felmon davis [mailto:moelmoel2...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Felmon
> > Davis
> > Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 11:39
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: end of Apache?
> >
> >
> > folks,
> >
> > the following statement is of interest to users of OpenOffice:
> >
> > Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice
> >
> > Outgoing Apache OpenOffice project management committee (PMC) chair
> > Dennis Hamilton has begun the discussion of a possible (note possible
> > at this point) shutdown of the project. "In the case of Apache
> > OpenOffice, needing to disclose security vulnerabilities for which
> > there is no mitigation in an update has become a serious issue. In
> > responses to concerns raised in June, the PMC is currently tasked by
> > the ASF Board to account for this inability and to provide a remedy.
> > An indicator of the seriousness of the Board's concern is the PMC been
> > requested to report to the Board every month, starting in August,
> > rather than quarterly, the normal case. One option for remedy that
> > must be considered is retirement of the project. The request is for
> > the PMC's consideration among other possible options."
> >
> > more details at: <https://lwn.net/Articles/699047/>
> > I think the article is from 09/01/2016.
> >
> > f.
> >
> > --
> > Felmon Davis
> >
> >
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RE: end of Apache?

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

The LWN article does include the entire message that kicked this off.

This discussion began on the d...@openoffice.apache.org list.  
You can find more information and discussion there.  

There is another article already today that quotes from much of the dev@ 
discussion, 
.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: felmon davis [mailto:moelmoel2...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Felmon
> Davis
> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 11:39
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: end of Apache?
> 
> 
> folks,
> 
> the following statement is of interest to users of OpenOffice:
> 
> Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice
> 
> Outgoing Apache OpenOffice project management committee (PMC) chair
> Dennis Hamilton has begun the discussion of a possible (note possible
> at this point) shutdown of the project. "In the case of Apache
> OpenOffice, needing to disclose security vulnerabilities for which
> there is no mitigation in an update has become a serious issue. In
> responses to concerns raised in June, the PMC is currently tasked by
> the ASF Board to account for this inability and to provide a remedy.
> An indicator of the seriousness of the Board's concern is the PMC been
> requested to report to the Board every month, starting in August,
> rather than quarterly, the normal case. One option for remedy that
> must be considered is retirement of the project. The request is for
> the PMC's consideration among other possible options."
> 
> more details at: 
> I think the article is from 09/01/2016.
> 
> f.
> 
> --
> Felmon Davis
> 
> 
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RE: The selling of Open Office.

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

[BCC PMC]

Tim,

The open-source license under which Apache OpenOffice is provided does not 
prevent commercial use in any manner.

However, the use of Apache Software Foundation trademarks is a different 
matter.  I am referring your message to the OpenOffice Project Management 
Committee for consideration of that aspect.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Bailey [mailto:mityhot.ali...@yandex.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 07:56
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: The selling of Open Office.
> 
> Dear Open Office (Apache),
> 
> I am a Linux user and obey by the laws of Open Source development and
> production.  I embrace everything which is designed to set the internet
> free to it's core, of which Open Office development has been a leading
> contributor for cross-platform unity.  Thank you.
> 
> I am disabled and have to do my shopping online, mostly through Amazon.
> While searching the Amazon computer software pages, I came across some
> discs of Open Office for sale by various purveyors. This concerns me as
> the process of Open Source is to either download from the developer'
> website directly, or from the safe links provided on that website.  And,
> even to order the discs directly from them.
> 
> Do the people or companies involved in selling Open Office in the links
> below have permission to sell Open Office under a contract? I'd do not
> like the thought of people making money from something which is freely
> given by the developers who have forged their reputations out of the
> good will of donations from users.
> 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Student-Professional-Powered-OpenOfficeTM-
> Microsoft/dp/B015JDCEWE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8=1472740582=8-
> 2=open+office
> 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/OPEN-OFFICE-HOME-STUDENT-
> 2015/dp/B014JJLGZ0/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8=1472740582=8-
> 8=open+office
> 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/OPEN-OFFICE-HOME-BUSINESS-
> 2016/dp/B0168FFLRC/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8=1472740582=8-
> 10=open+office
> 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/OpenOffice-Professional-2016-Spreadsheets-
> Presentations/dp/B0195Q4DC0/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8=1472740582=8-
> 13=open+office
> 
> 
> 
> Yours sincerely,
> 
> 
> Tim Bailey
> 
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RE: [REPORT] CVE-2016-1513 Security Advisory

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

> -Original Message-
> From: Tod Edmondson [mailto:dirkb...@mac.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 09:07
> To: orc...@apache.org
> Cc: d...@openoffice.apache.org; users@openoffice.apache.org;
> annou...@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [REPORT] CVE-2016-1513 Security Advisory
> 
> I know this is not the way to do this, but I haven't figured it out and
> I'm giving up. Please forward this to whoever can take me off this
> mailing list. Please.
> Sent from iCloud by Tod Edmondson
[orcmid] 

Done

You were not subscribed to dev@ or users@.  I removed your subscription to 
announce@.

 - Dennis


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RE: [REPORT] CVE-2016-1513 Security Advisory

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

[BCC PMC]

Today, Version 2.0 of the Advisory for CVE-2016-1513 has been issued.

There is now general availability of a Hotfix that can be downloaded and 
applied to installations of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2.  The Hotfix details can be 
found at 
<http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1/hotfix.html>.

Please review the README instructions before deciding to download and apply the 
Hotfix.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org]
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 09:43
> To: d...@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: [REPORT] CVE-2016-1513 Security Advisory
> 
> [BCC AOO Users; BCC AOO PMC]
> 
> Today, advisory CVE-2016-1513 has been published with regard to
> disclosure of a potentially-exploitable defect in crafted Impress
> documents.  The advisory can be found at
> <http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2016-1513.html>.
> 
> There is no updated release at this time.  There is action underway.  We
> can now discuss those actions and also seek assistance in the wider
> community.
> 
[ ... ]


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RE: Publish A Software Users Guide for OpenOffice!

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

> -Original Message-
> From: D C [mailto:silentrage_2...@hotmail.co.uk]
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 07:35
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Publish A Software Users Guide for OpenOffice!
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> Is it possible that you could could put together and publish a
> openoffice software users guide (A hardcopy), that will teach people how
> to use the the openoffice? Could you publish it in English (UK) and
> other languages? Please get back to me as  this will be a really good
> product to make.
[orcmid] 

Up through OpenOffice.org 3.3, printed guides were provided through a group 
known as ODF Authors, .  There was a setup to 
continue developing guides for Apache OpenOffice.  However, the AOO project did 
not sustain that effort.  The ODF Authors work continued with LibreOffice only. 
 Some of those works, and works of other authors, are available in printed 
form.  Much of that material remains applicable to Apache OpenOffice as well.

As a practical matter, the Apache OpenOffice project does not have volunteers 
for the undertaking you suggest.  The only user documentation effort involves 
occasional contributions to wiki pages.

 - Dennis


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RE: spreadsheet password

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

The Save with Password functions of Apache OpenOffice use serious encryption 
techniques that require the original password to be known.

There is no means to recover the password from the files.  There is no means to 
recover the file without discovering the password.

The weakest point in this procedure is the password itself.  There are programs 
that attempt to discover weak passwords by rapid, automated trials of 
commonly-used passwords, short passwords, ones with inadequate variety 
including well-known patterns.

You might find a program that offers to decrypt OpenOffice files (assuming you 
are using .ods for your spreadsheets) although there is usually no promise to 
succeed and the free trial will perhaps not try long enough.  If you pay for 
one of those, there still may not be any solution in a reasonable amount of 
time spent running the program.  The risk is yours.

It is the purpose of Save with Password to be this difficult and keep whatever 
your data is that private.

There is a slight risk that a file is damaged in such a way that the correct 
password is also unsuccessful.  Since you mention several spreadsheets, that is 
likely not the case. 

 - Dennis 

> -Original Message-
> From: MICHELLE BARTON [mailto:ather...@outlook.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 06:09
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: spreadsheet password
> 
> Hi
> Can anyone please tell me how I can access my saved spreadsheets without
> my password, ive tried every password ive ever used and searched the
> internet on recovery and have found nothing, please advise
> 
> Michelle Barton
> 
> Sent from Mail for
> Windows 10



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RE: [Issue 127072] dictionary is installed but contains no words

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

I agree that this is the boiling water Apache OpenOffice is a frog in.

Please see .  I have 
taken ownership of this issue as my "senior" project [;<).

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Maurice Howe [mailto:mauriceh...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 14:11
> To: Apache OpenOffice 
> Subject: Re: [Issue 127072] dictionary is installed but contains no
> words
> 
> This whole "spellchk" & "delete profile" is utter nonsense.  Surely,
> SURELY!, AOO is smart enough to handle this with a simple macro.  Maybe
> even with a "tab" pointing to the macro.
> 
> This "*spellchk is busted*" mess has gone on long enough.  Garden
> variety
> users shouldn't be burdened with this crap.  I'm not bright enough to
> write
> such a macro, but I'll bet 60 or 100 (10,000?) other users/developers
> are.
> C'mon, guys & gals -- FIX this dumbass problem!
> 
> Thanks for listening (again)...
> 
> Maurice
> 
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Keith N. McKenna
>  > wrote:
> 
> > chuck ef wrote:
> > > No Andrea - I received for copies too. Someone wants to make a
> point. 
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Aug 15, 2016, at 11:22 AM, Andrea  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I got this mail 4 times ... Does my mailer have a problem? If not,
> no
> > problem at all ;-)
> > >>
> > 
> > No it is SeaMonkey giving me a hard time today. Sorry for the noise.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> >
> >


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FW: Apache Open Office very difficult to use due to Variable Viewing which it constantly changes in Viewing and cannot set to 100%

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Incorrectly sent to users-owner (for administration of the list).

> -Original Message-
> From: Colby Menning [mailto:colbymenn...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 12:40
> To: users-ow...@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Apache Open Office very difficult to use due to Variable
> Viewing which it constantly changes in Viewing and cannot set to 100%
> 
>  Wanted to ask how to get off "Variable" in Viewing and stay on "100%" .
> Also cannot get off default settings in "Numbering and bullets and set
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RE: Re: Re: Reply to : download, but unable to use

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

I believe the objection was to the statement that Apache OpenOffice will 
produce .docx files.  That it will not do. Yes, .doc, .xls, .ppt can be 
produced.  But not .docx, .xlsx, and .pptx.  

Although Apache OpenOffice will read .docx, .xlsx, and .pptx (though not 
necessarily as well as the older forms), it is not possible to edit them and 
save them back in the very same format.  After any editing, one must save in an 
older Microsoft Office format (.doc, etc.) and hope, as always, that the 
necessary features and fidelity of the original are preserved. 

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: aditya chandran [mailto:adityac0...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 06:55
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re:  Re:  Re: Reply to : download, but unable to
> use
> 
> 
> Hi Hagar,
> 
> It seems a lot of people (and not just you) don't know how  to make a
> .doc file using AOO so after a ton of email jamming my account I decided
> to make a video on it !!!
> 
> https://youtu.be/Iwbyel1rdo0
> [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Iwbyel1rdo0/maxresdefault.jpg] Iwbyel1rdo0>
> 
> How To Create MS Word(.doc) File Using Apache Open Office
> ?
> youtu.be
> There is a common misconception that Apache Open Office does not help
> create word file . But... Here is the mythbuster! Link for Apache Open
> Office 4.1.2 -ht...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Just pop in an email if you have any issues.
> 
> Regards Aditya
> 
> 
> 
> From: Hagar Delest 
> Sent: 08 August 2016 22:22
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re:  Re:  Re: Reply to : download, but unable to
> use
> 
> In your mail you say 2 times that AOO can save in .docx:
> > Le 08/08/2016 à 15:02, aditya chandran a écrit :
> >> Well Nasrin that is not the case actually you can save the file in
> .doc format and even docx!!! Well as I said in the  earlier  reply while
> saving it choose .docx format.Please try out and if you're facing any
> problems please do tell me , I'll try to send steps to do it.
> Which is not the case. That's all.
> No big deal, the original poster was not subscribed to the list, so she
> did not get your reply (and the following).
> 
> Hagar
> 
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RE: Email format.

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

I'm sorry for your difficulties, Penny.

I think there is some confusion about the different ways that you can send and 
receive emails using Windows 10.  There is a mail tool that is part of Windows 
10 and it will work on the desktop.

You can find that tool, named "Mail" on your start menu.  If you do not see it, 
it is the first item under "M" on the all-programs list.  You can use Mail for 
Windows 10 in full screen and have a large writing surface.  As you change the 
size, notice that paragraph text will be reflowed to automatically fit in the 
area available for the message.  That works for incoming email also.

I just used Mail for Windows 10 to compose an email to you.  I see that it has 
styles (Heading1, etc.) and you can select fonts, font sizes, and even font 
colors in messages you compose.  You will receive it separately.

If you were able to use your Charter account with Windows Live Mail, it should 
also work with Mail for Windows 10.  It may take a little exploration to find 
the ways to set it up.  The arrangements are a little different.  The good news 
is that there is great consistency about this throughout Windows 10, once you 
get the hang of it.

The term "Outlook" is a bit confusing.  It can be used to refer to Outlook.com, 
the email service (formerly called "Hotmail").  It can be used to refer to a 
web site for composing and reading your mail.  It can be used to refer to 
Microsoft software that operates on the desktop and will work with many 
services, including Outlook.com.  

PS: The Mail software has spelling checks automatically and it will 
auto-correct the first letter of a new sentence to be capitalized.  Also, if 
you use Enter to start a new line, that new line is taken as the first line of 
a new paragraph/sentence.  In modern word processing, only use Enter when you 
want to start a new paragraph and let the software automatically flow text from 
line to line in a single paragraph in whatever width of view you (and a 
recipient) are using.

PPS: There are magnifier, text-to-speech and other useful assistance options 
built into Windows 10.

ABOUT YOUR BOOK

Do you know what software you were using to write your book on Windows XP?  I 
think the versions of Word, Excel, etc., on your Windows machine was a trial 
version that was provided free on new computers.  It seems your trial has 
expired.  When the trial expires, it will read documents but not allow you to 
edit them.

There are a variety of alternatives.  But first, we need to know the format of 
your 500page book.

 - Dennis


> -Original Message-
> From: Nikoli A. McCracken [mailto:tursiop...@charter.net]
> Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 16:19
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Email format.
> 
> 
> HI: I was using Windows Live Mail; suddenly, I got a notice from Outlook
> that they would no longer provide service for it. I switched to Outlook.
> BIG mistake! It offers ONE lousy font, and only 4 choices of size. I
> hate it. I tried to go back to Charter, as they are my primary ISP. Same
> problem;
> I hate their format. I’m 78 years old, 100% disabled, and Charter’s
> format is a mess. Two-thirds of the page is taken up with messages,
> address, other
> Notifications, and the area for the actual message is terrible. Also has
> a limited number of fonts. And I have old eyes, and trifocals!
> In addition, I have part of a book I was writing, working on it for over
> 7 years. It did make it safely onto this computer from a backup file I
> had.
> But it seems incapable of merging the old font with any new font,
> because it was first generated on Windows XP. So I can read it, but not
> add to
> It. Do I have to retype all 500 pages?
> Or, will your program help me? I am running Windows 10, downloaded from
> Windows 8.1 during the ‘free download’ period. That’s over. Plus,
> I’m getting weary of their constant demands for money. After just one
> year, I was going to have to buy another edition of Word, Excel, etc.
> And for me, a proofreader, they also do one thing that is the last damn
> straw! The first letter of every sentence in an article or email, is
> Initial cap!
> Who the hey writes like that anymore? Didn’t that go away along about
> Shakespeare’s time? I went to Msoft Tech support, and they blandly said
> There was no way to change it!
> Help!?
> Best wishes, Nikoli A.”Penny” McCracken
> tursiop...@charter.net
> 
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10



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RE: I want to donate

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

You are welcome to donate via Paypal to the Apache Software Foundation.

Apache OpenOffice does not accept donations directly.

Apache OpenOffice does not provide information of the kind you propose.  

If you offer a service to users of Apache OpenOffice, there is a place where 
you can be listed.  

See .  There is no fee.  
And there is no endorsement.

> -Original Message-
> From: Shawn Michaels [mailto:shawn.micha...@thesmartlad.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 14:09
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: I want to donate
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I want to donate via paypal for your cause, but I'd like to get
> mentioned on your website with my name, website and twitter username,
> so people can find and contact me.
> 
> Is this something you can do?
> 
> Shawn
> 
> 
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RE: Open Office 4 Email Problems

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Assuming you want the recipient to have an email with your document file 
attached, use the following steps:

 1. Save the study document to your file system.

 2. When you open Windows Live Mail and address a new message to be sent, 
attach the document.  (This might be an Insert option depending on your 
version.) Then send the message.

Alternative: If you have the Windows PC desktop application for Windows Live 
Mail, see if you can set it as your default email application.  Then the Send 
to Email from Apache OpenOffice 4 might work.  If it doesn't, use the above 
procedure.

 - Dennis

If this is unclear, please reply to users@openoffice.apache.org with 
information about the version of Windows you are using.


> -Original Message-
> From: travel...@yahoo.com.au.INVALID
> [mailto:travel...@yahoo.com.au.INVALID]
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 14:38
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: travel...@yahoo.com.au
> Subject: Open Office 4 Email Problems
> 
> Hello  Open Office Support
> 
> My name is GeraldW
> from Melbourne , Australia
> 
> Subject : Email problems via windows live mail .
> 
> Recently downloaded Apache Open Office 4
> 
> Have typed written study documents in Open Office  file  about 5-6
> pages, but cannot email the documents out via windows live mail
> 
> Could you please offer me tech support advice
> 
> 
> Thank you


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RE: Possible Scam

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

The "tech support guy" would not have been anyone representing the Apache 
OpenOffice project.  It sounds like the "clean up" program may have been 
malware of some form.  That is a common ploy to convince users that they need 
to install what is in fact unnecessary and unwanted software.  How did you 
locate and communicate with that person?

You need to find a way to have that software removed from your machine.  I 
recommend getting advice at an Apple store.  If you have concerns that the copy 
of OpenOffice that you installed is also not legitimate, you can have that 
removed also (or uninstall it yourself), and then download and install one via 
.  Check that you obtain one that works on the 
version of OS X on your Macbook Pro.

Note that Apple, Microsoft and others do not "cold call" users, and those who 
pass themselves off as some sort of support don't know if you really have a 
computer, that it has problems, etc.  It could be that scammers have you listed 
as a Macbook user by virtue of the original call and/or the clean-up program 
being installed.

> -Original Message-
> From: James Knott [mailto:james.kn...@rogers.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 18:41
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org; wagar...@msu.edu
> Subject: Re: Possible Scam
> 
> On 07/30/2016 05:20 PM, Wagar, Hannah Lee wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > I downloaded Open Office on my Macbook Pro a couple years ago. I was
> on the phone with a tech support guy who helped me complete the
> download, then he had me download a program that was supposed to "clean
> up" my computer, and rid it of viruses etc. In the past year I've
> received 2-3 unlisted no caller ID calls from a man (seemingly from
> India or another foreign country to me) asking me about this download
> and telling me to call a toll free number. I'm concerned that I've been
> scammed, and have read a forum from 2011 about possible credit card
> fraud using Apache Open Office's name. I would really appreciate it if
> someone could help me with this issue, as I am concerned about my
> privacy when using Open Office or even making online purchases.
> >
> >
> 
> Where did you download from?  You should only download from
> www.openoffice.org.  Also, to my knowledge, OO does not offer support,
> though 3rd parties do.  BTW, you posted on a mail list for users of
> OpenOffice.  We're just users, like you.
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RE: How to open zipped file

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

The problem appears to be that the iCloud Drive recognizes that OpenOffice 
documents are in a special form of Zip.  They are not meant to be unzipped, 
however.  They must be opened by an application, such as OpenOffice, that 
recognizes the special form and treats them correctly as OpenDocument Format 
documents.  

Are you attempting to reuse these back on your Windows 10 machine or your iPad?

If you are downloading them from iCloud back to a Windows machine, change the 
name from extension .zip to the correct form for OpenOffice (.odt for Text, 
.ods for Spreadsheet, .odp for Presentation).  And have OpenOffice installed on 
the machine you are doing this on.  (There is no OpenOffice for the iPad but 
other applications might work.)

If you cannot see the .zip extension (or .odt and the others) on the files, 
there is a setting you need to make in Windows 10 to reveal them.  In the File 
Explorer, on the View tab, check the "File name extensions" box in the 
Show/hide section (or however those are identified in your language).

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: kazuko [mailto:kazuko.ino...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 01:24
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: How to open zipped file
> 
> Hi
> My open office documents were sent to iCloud Drive iPad from PC Windows
> 10.
> But I had no idea these files are zipped. I installed app for unzip but
> these couldn't adjust open office files. Please help me how to unzip my
> files.
> 
> Kazuko
> 
> 
> iPhoneから送信
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RE: Conveting files from Word Perfect x7

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Apache OpenOffice does not support Word Perfect file formats.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Grethe Simonsen [mailto:gre...@webspeed.dk]
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 13:46
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Conveting files from Word Perfect x7
> 
> Hello.
> 
> 
> 
> Before downloading open office Apache, i would like to insure, that it
> is
> possible to convert files from Word Perfectx7 to Apache.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kindly
> 
> 
> 
> Grethe Simonsen



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RE: about openoffice 4.2 and also appreciate your help

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

> -Original Message-
> From: nasrin khaksar [mailto:nasrinkhaks...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 02:17
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: about openoffice 4.2 and also appreciate your help
> 
> hello every one.
> thanks so much for your help specially dennis and brian.
> your informations was very useful and helpful for me.
> do you know the time for release of openoffice 4.2?
> is it possible to save documents as .docx in that version?
> could you please send me the release note and bug resolved in this
> version to study?
> thanks extremely for your help, God bless you all and i request devine
> mercy and blessing for you.
[orcmid] 

I don't believe there is any support for export to .docx as part of 4.2.0.

There is no target date for release of 4.2.0 at this time.

 - Dennis
> 
> --
> Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
> written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
> good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
> and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
> burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
> believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
> has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
> holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
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RE: a question about openoffice and remote.

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

There is no support for Microsoft Publisher or Microsoft Visio formats 
(although SVG can be interchanged with the latest releases of Visio).

OpenOffice can operate with remote file systems that appear as if they appear 
as local disk drives or file folders on your operating system.  OpenOffice does 
not implement protocols for operating with remote file stores in other ways 
(except for some WebDAV support).

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: nasrin khaksar [mailto:nasrinkhaks...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 05:58
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: a question about openoffice and remote.
> 
> hello every one.
> does openoffice support remote?
> open remote files and save to remote like libreoffice google drive,
> one drive, sharepoint, etc?
> also does it support microsoft publisher and visio?
> thanks for your help and God bless you all.
> 
> --
> Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
> written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
> good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
> and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
> burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
> believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
> has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
> holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
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RE: a question about openoffice and docx format.

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Apache OpenOffice does not have a means to save documents as .docx.  If it is 
not acceptable to save the documents as .doc or .odt, you will need to use a 
different product.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: nasrin khaksar [mailto:nasrinkhaks...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 06:04
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: a question about openoffice and docx format.
> 
> hello every one again.
> i have a very valuable documents saved in microsoft office with docx
> format.
> when i opened them with openoffice writer and if i change even one
> character,
> openoffice instead of saving the changes, actives the save as dialog
> and wants to change the extention of format.
> for example: converts my documents to .odt or .doc.
> how can i prevent this problem?
> i realy appreciate your help.
> this is a very critical problem for me.
> i pray for you and request devine mercy and blessings for you.
> 
> 
> --
> Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
> written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
> good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
> and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
> burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
> believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
> has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
> holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
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RE: [DISCUSS] Places for Installation, Startup, Troubleshooting, Caveats, Tips, Workarounds, and maybe FAQ?

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Still ...
> [BCC to dev and users lists - please keep the conversation on doc@ for
> now, at least by BCC, since it pertains to use of the wiki(s).]

Of course, I could simply be over-thinking this whole thing and it would be 
more valuable to do something.

I still would like any feedback that there is before investing in something 
like this.

The need for development of hotfix procedures for end-users led me to elevate 
this lingering topic of mine for discussion.  I regret not anticipating the 
need for better information for situations like that and user trouble-shooting 
as well.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org]
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 10:34
> To: d...@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Places for Installation, Startup, Troubleshooting,
> Caveats, Tips, Workarounds, and maybe FAQ?
> 
> 
> I notice that the User Guide draft does not provide connection to topics
> around installation, startup, and so on, at least not at the top level,
> <https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide>.
> 
> The Apache OpenOffice Documentation Project page is project descriptive,
> rather than documentation descriptive,
> at <https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation>.  This page has a
> mix of old and somewhat recent material and a variety of formats and
> works-in-progress.
> 
> I am particularly interested, myself, in information about installation,
> start up, ways of starting work with documents, saving and locating
> documents, tips for configuring for careful and systematic operation as
> well as trouble-shooting, working-around common problems, and
> limitations to be known about.  I am also interested in that information
> being well-illustrated.  My priority, by the way, is Windows first,
> since that represents over 85% of our user community measured by
> download statistics.
> 
> These don't seem to be part of the User Guide project but there are a
> variety of places where better information could be provided.
> 
> It seems to me that there are three ways to have the supporting
> documentation address this.
> 
>  1. Add a section to the user guide for covering Installation,
> Configuration, Operation, Troubleshooting, and Removal.  It would need
> to deal with separation of the different platforms (and their versions)
> in some clean way so that users on a particular platform can find what
> is pertinent to them and requires knowing their computer operating-
> system when it is not the same for all platforms.  It would also need to
> deal with differences in AOO version functionality/caveats in some
> manner.
> 
>  2. Use the current structure and update and add the information that
> seems to be important for providing the kind of documentation support I
> am speaking of, employing/expanding HOWTOs and the Frequently Asked
> Questions to tie into such material.
> 
>  3. Maybe some combination, although cross-referencing might not serve
> users well unless it is smooth and frictionless (especially around users
> not losing their place based on what they are looking into).
> 
> Down the road, I would think it would be good to move The Documentation
> Project to a DocumentationProject wiki topic, and have current relevant
> documentation at the Documentation topic.  Older material about
> unsupported software could move to a separate topic page
> (PreviousDocumentation ?) and cleaned up, and be accessible from the
> top-level Documentation topic.
> 
> Is there some coordination required about this, so that things don't be
> left in a broken, disconnected state?  I think the material could be
> migrated in a way that keeps everything connected even as material is
> morphed into a new structure.
> 
>  - Dennis
> 
> PS: I notice there were no responses to this question about how inter-
> version changes or specific-version items are identified.
> 
> PPS: Something else that needs to be done is cleanup around what is
> under PDL and what is not. I would thing that needs to be attended to in
> separation of Apache Licensed material and anything that must be
> retained under PDL.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 18:17
> > To: d...@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: [QUESTIONS] Dealing with AOO Inter-Version Changes
> >
> > I notice that there is checking of documentation against current
> > releases of Apache OpenOffice, although that does not seem to be
> > reflected in the texts themselves, once User Guide pages are
> designated
> > as stable/"published".
> >
> > I know there were a couple of behavioral

[DISCUSS] Places for Installation, Startup, Troubleshooting, Caveats, Tips, Workarounds, and maybe FAQ?

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

[BCC to dev and users lists - please keep the conversation on doc@ for now, at 
least by BCC, since it pertains to use of the wiki(s).]

I notice that the User Guide draft does not provide connection to topics around 
installation, startup, and so on, at least not at the top level, 
<https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide>.

The Apache OpenOffice Documentation Project page is project descriptive, rather 
than documentation descriptive, 
at <https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation>.  This page has a mix of 
old and somewhat recent material and a variety of formats and 
works-in-progress.  

I am particularly interested, myself, in information about installation, start 
up, ways of starting work with documents, saving and locating documents, tips 
for configuring for careful and systematic operation as well as 
trouble-shooting, working-around common problems, and limitations to be known 
about.  I am also interested in that information being well-illustrated.  My 
priority, by the way, is Windows first, since that represents over 85% of our 
user community measured by download statistics.

These don't seem to be part of the User Guide project but there are a variety 
of places where better information could be provided.

It seems to me that there are three ways to have the supporting documentation 
address this.

 1. Add a section to the user guide for covering Installation, Configuration, 
Operation, Troubleshooting, and Removal.  It would need to deal with separation 
of the different platforms (and their versions) in some clean way so that users 
on a particular platform can find what is pertinent to them and requires 
knowing their computer operating-system when it is not the same for all 
platforms.  It would also need to deal with differences in AOO version 
functionality/caveats in some manner.

 2. Use the current structure and update and add the information that seems to 
be important for providing the kind of documentation support I am speaking of, 
employing/expanding HOWTOs and the Frequently Asked Questions to tie into such 
material.

 3. Maybe some combination, although cross-referencing might not serve users 
well unless it is smooth and frictionless (especially around users not losing 
their place based on what they are looking into).

Down the road, I would think it would be good to move The Documentation Project 
to a DocumentationProject wiki topic, and have current relevant documentation 
at the Documentation topic.  Older material about unsupported software could 
move to a separate topic page (PreviousDocumentation ?) and cleaned up, and be 
accessible from the top-level Documentation topic.

Is there some coordination required about this, so that things don't be left in 
a broken, disconnected state?  I think the material could be migrated in a way 
that keeps everything connected even as material is morphed into a new 
structure.

 - Dennis

PS: I notice there were no responses to this question about how inter-version 
changes or specific-version items are identified.

PPS: Something else that needs to be done is cleanup around what is under PDL 
and what is not. I would thing that needs to be attended to in separation of 
Apache Licensed material and anything that must be retained under PDL.

> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org]
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 18:17
> To: d...@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: [QUESTIONS] Dealing with AOO Inter-Version Changes
> 
> I notice that there is checking of documentation against current
> releases of Apache OpenOffice, although that does not seem to be
> reflected in the texts themselves, once User Guide pages are designated
> as stable/"published".
> 
> I know there were a couple of behavioral changes in AOO 4.1.2 although
> that might not show at the current level of documentation detail.
> 
> I wonder how changes to AOO that are user-perceived will be reflected in
> the documentation.  Is not the older form to be maintained so it can be
> found by someone who is looking at such a version?  Also, would we want
> to start marking the first version for which a page or chunk of content
> is current?
> 
> Perhaps that is covered somewhere in the documentation guidance.  I
> would be grateful if someone could point me to where this sort of
> change-accounting and feature-progression has been decided.
> 
>  - Dennis
> 
> PS: Although these questions struck me about the User Guide, if you look
> at the top-level of the MediaWiki documentation section, there are many
> items that are specific to older versions that are (or may be) obsolete
> with respect to newer versions of OpenOffice.
> 
> 
> 
>  -- Dennis E. Hamilton
> orc...@apache.org
> dennis.hamil...@acm.org 

[REPORT] CVE-2016-1513 Security Advisory

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

[BCC AOO Users; BCC AOO PMC]

Today, advisory CVE-2016-1513 has been published with regard to disclosure of a 
potentially-exploitable defect in crafted Impress documents.  The advisory can 
be found at <http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2016-1513.html>.

There is no updated release at this time.  There is action underway.  We can 
now discuss those actions and also seek assistance in the wider community.

NEXT STEPS

As indicated in the advisory, a patch is already known and available for 
developer use.

In addition, the Apache OpenOffice security team has developed candidate "hot 
fix" binaries.  These are single shared-library files that can be manually 
installed by users in place of the same file in the program directory of their 
Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 installation.

There are two crucial concerns for the eventual release of a hotfix in this 
manner.  First, we must have more testing of the hotfix substitution to ensure 
that there is no regression of any kind.  Secondly, the introduction of a 
hotfix is something that casual users must be able to perform with confidence 
and reliability.  For that, we need to ensure that the procedures provided are 
complete and reliable (and that users have a way to recover from any misstep).  
So we also require community assistance in reviewing, applying, and revising 
the procedure.

Ultimately, the preferable solution is to have an automatic installer for the 
hotfix that does not require manual manipulations in operating-system file 
locations.  Because localization does not appear to be relevant to this fix, 
that is easier than producing complete localized distributions for all 
platforms and languages.

Additional information and details for participating in the assurance of the 
available hotfix replacements will be provided over the next couple of days.

Thank you for your continuing support and reliance on Apache OpenOffice.

 - Dennis E. Hamilton
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RE: Helping More People Access Open Office

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Dave hasn't spoken up so ...

I interpret his remark as being a casual observation about the ASF (and its AOO 
project) not being a for-profit, commercial operation.  

Going all legalese about this is probably not useful.  I doubt that the 
intended audience is confused.

There are different kinds of non-profits, by the way, and there is a wide range 
of different activities.  (E.g., the ASF is neither trade association nor 
standards-development consortium.)  

The ASF has declared itself as serving the public interest by providing free 
software as a public good.  In doing so, the ASF puts meticulous attention on 
the intellectual-property cleanliness of the software released under its name. 
The also has standards of good open-source citizenship that it applies to the 
conduct of its projects.  These are more strenuous conditions than the literal 
requirements for compliance with the Apache License.  A relevant case for 
Apache OpenOffice is that projects incorporate license-compatible software from 
third parties only when it is explicitly allowed by someone with the authority 
to do so.

That is worth discussing on the main thrust of this message thread and related 
ones that have arisen lately.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 03:01
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Helping More People Access Open Office
> 
> 
> 
> On 19/07/2016 01:34, Dave Fisher wrote:
> > The Apache Software Foundation is a 501(c3) non-profit corporation
> registered in Delaware, USA.
> 
> That doesn't explain why Dave Barton said: "Just to make you aware the
> Apache Software Foundation (ASF) is not a firm, business or
> corporation."
> 
> jonathon
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[REPORT] Community Lists and Archives Activity through 2016 Q2

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Community Lists and Archives 


This is list activity data compiled for the 2016 Second-Quarter report to the 
Apache Software Foundation Board.

Every mailing list has decreased in average monthly activity from 2016 Q1
to 2016 Q2.  Some mailing lists have negligible traffic.  Because of
Northern Hemisphere Summer, it is too soon to know how much the year-over-
year decline in activity has continued.

The complete compilation of the data is in PDF at
<https://s.apache.org/OHfh>.  The list is in decreasing order by 2015 
Activity.

 LISTAVERAGE MONTHLY ACTIVITY
   2012  2013  2014  2015 2016Q1-Q2

 dev@  1266  1124   552   340  226 
   users@   235   198   328   219  208
users-de@38   167   14794  102
   utenti-it@29403037   22
i10n@   211   225   11934   18
  qa@   150   1277116   15
 api@303520151
 doc@ 7412512   19
  dev-de@ 0 042 67
  general-es@3424 9 44
   marketing@638718 32
 progetto-it@1217 8 20
users-fr@ 1 4 6 00
  geral-ptbr@21 5 1 00
  general-ja@ 3 2 0 00


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RE: OpenOffice for Business

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

To amplify Andrea's response.

All distributions provided by the Apache OpenOffice project are free to the 
public and free to use, whether for personal or business purposes.

The software is developed, provided, and supported by volunteers.  The same 
support is available to all.  The support avenues are linked on the page at 
.

There may be third parties that provide support for organizations.  They are 
separate from the Apache OpenOffice project.  Those that have provided 
information to Apache OpenOffice are listed at 
.  We do not know how 
current this information is and we have not evaluated those services.  The 
listing is simply for information purposes.

 - Dennis


> -Original Message-
> From: Andrea [mailto:andrea...@gmx.ch]
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 04:52
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: OpenOffice for Business
> 
> Am 15.07.2016 um 13:30 schrieb Liz Hell:
> >  Hello,
> >
> > Could you please help me. I'm to find any information on what support
> levels do you have. Is there any differences in support service for
> bigger companies and home usage of the OpenOffice? If yes, is it still
> free? If no what are the terms? Thank
> 
> We are just users as you ... but we try to help you, whenever you have a
> specific problem
> 
> 
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RE: Uninstall Issue

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Also, if you are on Windows, Robert, you can use the Control Panel to uninstall 
Apache OpenOffice.  There are different ways to find the Control Panel 
depending on the version of Windows you are using.

On the control panel dashboard, use the Programs (Uninstall a program) item.  
The programs are listed in alphabetical order.  You'll find Apache OpenOffice 
under OpenOffice 4.1.2 (for the latest release).  Select that and click 
"Uninstall" in the menu above the list of programs.

This will leave some information on your system so that a reinstall will 
preserve some of your settings.  These are benign and should not be a concern.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 01:25
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: Robert Davis 
> Subject: Re: Uninstall Issue
> 
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 02:00:34 +
> Robert Davis  wrote:
> 
> > I have a question regarding uninstalling open office.  I currently
> want to uninstall it, but it is not showing up in the list of programs
> where you would uninstall it?  The icon is on the task bar, where I put
> it.  I can click on it, so open office is still installed, but why can't
> I see it to uninstall it?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Robert Davis
> 
> I have never needed to uninstall OpenOffice from Windows, but the advice
> I am aware of on the User Forum is that when a complete uninstall is
> required one can download Revo Uninstaller and use it at its most
> aggressive to completely remove OpenOffice.
> 
> --
> Rory O'Farrell 
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AOO Mailing LIsts (was RE: Legality of use question)

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

All of the public Apache OpenOffice lists are identified on this ASF web page:
.  

There are two private lists.  You can send appropriate messages to those lists. 
 Subscription requests are moderated and only members of the associated 
activity are subscribed.

The private@ openoffice.apache.org (oo.a.o) list is for use by the Apache 
OpenOffice Project Management Committee.  It is to be used for request that 
need to be handled in confidence, such as personnel matters, 
licensing/trademark matters, and any sort of legal concerns.  It does not 
provide any support of the kind obtained with dev@ oo.a.o or users@ oo.a.o.

The security@ oo.a.o list is used by the Apache OpenOffice Security team, 
essentially a subset of the PMC charged with analysis of reported security 
exploits and vulnerabilities in the code itself.  Messages that are not very 
specific to that subject are ignored.  See 
.

Those are the only private lists of Apache OpenOffice itself.  Public- and 
private-ist moderators also have a private way to be reached and to communicate 
among themselves.  For example, users-owner@ oo.a.o reaches the users@ oo.a.o 
moderators.  There are comparable arrangements for moderation of the Community 
Forums.

 - Dennis



> -Original Message-
> From: DaveMainwaring [mailto:davemainwar...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 03:25
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Legality of use question
> 
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Jason McMahon 
> wrote:
> > Jason McMahon
> 
> 
> It is a users help forum.
> 
> Jason McMahon, as a user I appreciated your post.
>  I never knew of a private address. I wonder what other useful contact
> information is out of sight
> 
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RE: Document Corrupted

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Jibin,

It is Microsoft Office Word that reports your document cannot be opened.  It is 
a .docx (OOXML) document.  Those are not produced by Apache OpenOfice.

We cannot help you with that document.

 - Dennis

PS: You sent your message to an archived public mailing list.

> -Original Message-
> From: Jibin Chacko [mailto:jibin.cha...@kit.ae]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 05:01
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: FW: Document Corrupted
> 
> Hi Team,
> 
> I was doing a documentation and after some time when I was trying to
> open it was not allowing me it shows error below;
> 
> 
> 
> Could you please help me please.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks & Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Jibin K Chacko
> 
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RE: How to resolve a problem in Open Office

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Nasrin,

Thank you for describing your specific situation.

If a lock file is retained after you have closed a document, it means that the 
document was not saved properly or completely.  This could be a result of 
shutting down OpenOffice too quickly.  The lock file is also protection against 
you attempting to open a document that is already open by you.

It is possible to delete a lock file in order for OpenOffice to open the 
document again.  Do you require advice on how to find and delete the lock file?

 - Dennis


> -Original Message-
> From: nasrin khaksar [mailto:nasrinkhaks...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 05:09
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: How to resolve a problem in Open Office
> 
> hi.
> thanks for your article and help.
> i use windows xp and i want to dont have any lock file in my system.
> i dont know how can explane in english, but i am the only user of my
> laptop and also, i dont have any private document.
> i dont want to have lock files, (specially sometimes they are not
> deleted by default, after finishing my work).
> thanks so much again and God bless you all.
> 
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RE: difficulty with tiny windows & compatibility with cell phone

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

 1. There is no version of Apache OpenOffice for Android phones, including the 
Samsung Galaxy.

 2. It appears that the Zoom has been accidentally changed.  When you open a 
document that has this problem, look in the lower right corner of the 
OpenOffice window (the status line).  You will see a % number and next to that 
you will see a slider.  Adjust the slider so that the zoom changes to 100% or 
any other value that is comfortable for your viewing.

If this works, please reply to the users@openoffice.apache.org to let us know 
that problem is solved.

 3. Apache OpenOffice is a free software package provided by volunteers on 
their own time.  There is no telephone support.  The public mailing list you 
reached is where volunteers -- other users of the software -- offer their own 
support to other users by responses on the mailing list.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Herb Eichner [mailto:heichn...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 07:36
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: difficulty with tiny windows & compatibility with cell phone
> 
> Why does open office sometimes open in a cramped window, where the words
> are so tiny I cannot see them, and copy & past does not work?
> How can I adjust it? When I click on full screen, all I get is the
> cramped window in one corner of a big full screen window. I hope I am
> understood. This is difficult to describe.
> Does Apache Open Office have a phone number too, for support?
> Is there an app. that will make open office work on my Samsung Galaxy
> Grand Prime cell phone? Is it compatible?
> Thanks; Herb Eichner of heichn...@gmail.com
> Ph. 780-433-5521
> Cell Pone= 780-700-6242
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RE: Crash report

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Uh no, don't tweet anything.

Please provide more information here at the users list:

 1. What version of Apache OpenOffice?

 2. What operating system and its version?

 3. A bit more on the Calc file: format?  Size/complexity?  What was happening 
just before a crash?

 4. And if the file is under 1 Megabyte, is it something you could post as an 
attachment to a bug report or is it not something you are willing to be public?

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Groenescheij [mailto:mar...@groenescheij.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 14:11
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: robertvbolisa...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Crash report
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my mobile device.
> 
> > On 6 Jul 2016, at 3:25 AM, Robert V Bolisay JR
>  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > My tweet
> > "@ApacheOO Wondering why my Apache OpenOffice Calc crashed four times
> last night.  (?)"
> >
> 
> Could you tweet a bit more information?
> 
> >
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
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RE: Test using wifi can a moderator please delete original message.

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Removing list posts requires IT intervention.  It is not something moderators 
can do.

Although these may be unintended, there appears to be no harm in simply leaving 
them in the archives.

Is that all right with you, Lucetta?

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Lucetta Teller [mailto:luce...@lucetta.ca]
> Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2016 08:58
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Test using wifi can a moderator please delete original
> message.
> 
> Sincere apologies. Mods can someone delete this please?
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jul 2, 2016, at 6:45 PM, Maggie Butler 
> wrote:
> >
> > Why are you sending this to a public message board?
> >
> >> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Lucetta  wrote:
> >>
> >> Field not as bad up in bedroom above kitchen.
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > mbutle...@gmail.com
> > (if southgaylord bounces)
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RE: oracle-report-builder

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

> -Original Message-
> From: Girvin R. Herr [mailto:gherr...@sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:42
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: oracle-report-builder
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/02/2016 08:25 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
[ ... ]
> > ​We had a framework change with version 4.0. What this means in that
> the
> > development structure for extensions needed to change. Oracle is no
> longer
> > doing active development for this extension. See references on:
> >
> > ​http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/oracle-report-builder
> >
> > You might find the discussion on the Forums useful as well:
> >
> > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42=57062
> >
> >
> Wait!  Back the truck up!  This is news to me.
> I just tested this and confirmed that the OP is correct and the Report
> Builder is not working in AOO 4, even though the Report menu options
> (Edit, Open, etc.) are present.  I assumed RB was bundled with AOO, as
> it was with LibreOffice.  My last report gen was in January and I
> installed AOO 4 in December.  I must have still been evaluating AOO and
> used LO 3 to gen those last reports.  I totally agree with threenorms'
> posting in the above referenced forum thread:
> 
> "honestly: why did everyone on the development end apparently think that
> generating actual, meaningful reports with totals based on data, was NOT
> part of a database program? without being able to generate reports, the
> whole thing is useless! ARGH!"
[orcmid] 

I think this tells most of the story: 
.

The code was imported into the Apache OpenOffice source-code tree in 2011.  
Since then, it has only been touched in cosmetic ways that don't repair or 
update anything.  No one has put technical work into it.

Unfortunately, the desirability of this to users is different than their being 
the capacity, capability, and commitment of volunteer developers to work on 
this.

I think it is safe to say that the project lacks the capacity to work on this 
extension and that changing is not foreseeable at this time.

 
> 
> Not having the report builder in AOO is a deal breaker for me.  I must
> have it to gen my reports.  Now, as a result of this disclosure, I must
> abandon AOO and go back to the old but stable LO 3, or the buggy LO 4,
> as well as LO's lack of support like this forum.
> 
> Also, I assumed that LO got custody of the Oracle Report Builder code
> when they bundled it in to the LO code. That may be a bad assumption.
[orcmid] 

I have no idea about that.  However, LO has access and use of the code carried 
in the Apache OpenOffice repository and they could have adapted from that if it 
was a better starting point for the current use of the MPL license on 
LibreOffice releases.  

 - Dennis
> 
> Girvin Herr
> 
> 
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RE: WK4 conversion to XLS

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Thank you for your meticulous investigation.

I am certain that your making comments at those places will be very helpful in 
having other users not face the difficulty you encountered.

Thanks for adding your volunteer efforts to those of all other volunteers on 
this project.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Stewart, Michael [mailto:michael.stew...@capgemini.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 08:06
> To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org
> Cc: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: RE: WK4 conversion to XLS
> 
> There is more than that.  If you scroll down to the comparison charts it
> clearly shows that OpenOffice takes and converts WK4 files:
> 
> 
> 
> Apache OpenOffice Calc (OpenOffice.org Calc)  extensions.org/openoffice-org-calc-file-extensions>
> 
> Spreadsheet program from OpenOffice.org productivity suite
> 
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RE: problem with fractions in spreadsheet.

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Also, try entering the value as a formula.  E.g., "=5/32" (without quotes), so 
that the result is required to be numeric. Then the Fraction formatting will 
also work.

> -Original Message-
> From: Wade Smart [mailto:wadesm...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 07:41
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: problem with fractions in spreadsheet.
> 
> Right click in the cell. Select Format.
> In the window that comes up, left Tab Numbers,
> in the Category if you scroll down you can select Fraction.
> It will now look like a fraction when you write 6 1/3.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Registered Linux User: #480675
> Registered Linux Machine: #408606
> Linux since June 2005
> 
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Vincent A. Juliano
>  > wrote:
> 
> 
>   Thank you Wade for the reply.  Now on to the question.
> 
> Whenever I’ve entered a fraction or a mixed number into my
> spreadsheet, upon hitting the enter button, the fraction immediately
> changes into a date.
> 
>   For example I enter 5/32, upon hitting Enter the fraction shows up
> in the cell as 05/01/32.  Should I enter 6-1/3 it will show as 6 1/3.
> However the screw size 4-40 will show as 04/01/40.  6 11/16  shows as 6
> 2/3.  This is not accuracy that is possible to use.
> 
>   How can I get the spreadsheet to enter the fractions and mixed
> numbers as written?
>   Format -Numbers-Fractions yields no better results.
> 
>   Please spell out the suggested solutions as simply as possible. I
> am definitely NOT computer savvy
> 
>   Thank you for any help or suggestions.
> 
>   Vince
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Vincent Juliano
>   vjuli...@optonline.net 
> 
> 
> 
>   On Jun 28, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Wade Smart   > wrote:
> 
> 
>   Vincent, you just have to ask your question.
>   Someone will respond.
> 
>   --
>   Registered Linux User: #480675
>   Registered Linux Machine: #408606
>   Linux since June 2005
> 
>   On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 7:38 AM, Vincent A. Juliano
>  > wrote:
> 
> 
>   What is the proper email address to get help for open
> office.
> 
>   Using Open office since version 2.0 and forgot almost
> everything,
> 
>   Thank you
>   Vince
> 
>   Vincent Juliano
>   vjuli...@optonline.net 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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RE: WK4 conversion to XLS

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

> -Original Message-
> From: Stewart, Michael [mailto:michael.stew...@capgemini.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 06:37
> To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org
> Cc: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: RE: WK4 conversion to XLS
> 
> It is not in the Apache OpenOffice documentation - it is in the File-
> Extensions.Org website:
> 
> http://www.file-extensions.org/convert-wk4-to-xls
> 
> You might want to let them know the error.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
[ ... ]
[orcmid] 


What I see there is the following statement at the very beginning: 

   If you don't have Microsoft Excel 2003 installed, try to use
   for example free OpenOffice.org (LibreOffice) Calc to open 
   .wk4 file and save it as .xls files.

I don't know how to decode the two specific entries under Multiplatform 
software, including one specifically about
"Apache OpenOffice Calc (OpenOffice.org Calc)."

I have made a comment on their page about this.  I suspect that these are very 
old entries - all of the images on the Apache OpenOffice entry there are from 
the old OpenOffice.org versions shipped by Sun Microsystems and Oracle.  As far 
as we can tell, .wk4 was never supported.


> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org]
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 7:16 PM
> To: Stewart, Michael
> Cc: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: RE: WK4 conversion to XLS
> 
> Where did you find that in Apache OpenOffice documentation?
> 
> Apache OpenOffice only supports .wk1, .wks, and .123 format Lotus 1-2-3
> files.
> 
>  - Dennis
> 
> PS: This is a public mailing list.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Stewart, Michael [mailto:michael.stew...@capgemini.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 14:37
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: WK4 conversion to XLS
> >
> > The documentation before I installed Apache stated that file
> > conversion from Wk4 to XLS was supported.  But I don't see WK4 file
> > extensions as an option when I try to convert a file.  Please advise.
> >
> [ ... ]
> 
> This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential
> and is the property of the Capgemini Group. It is intended only for the
> person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient,
> you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate,
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RE: WK4 conversion to XLS

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Where did you find that in Apache OpenOffice documentation?

Apache OpenOffice only supports .wk1, .wks, and .123 format Lotus 1-2-3 files.

 - Dennis

PS: This is a public mailing list.

> -Original Message-
> From: Stewart, Michael [mailto:michael.stew...@capgemini.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 14:37
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: WK4 conversion to XLS
> 
> The documentation before I installed Apache stated that file conversion
> from Wk4 to XLS was supported.  But I don't see WK4 file extensions as
> an option when I try to convert a file.  Please advise.
> 
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RE: Quick Question

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

To expand on Rory's answer,

If your password was short and memorable (even though you have forgotten it), 
there are utilities that will try better-than-brute-force solutions at opening 
password-protected OpenDocument Format documents such as those produced by 
Apache OpenOffice.  

We do not provide such a utility.  Some of them provide simple attacks for 
free, may not provide a solution in reasonable time and have to be stopped, and 
have premium versions that make better attacks and can still fail.

However, since you probably did not employ a cryptographically-safe password, 
such a utility may succeed.

The Apache OpenOffice project does not recommend any such utility.  You should 
take precautions installing such a tool and use it at your own risk.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie]
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 01:35
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: Brandi Wingard 
> Subject: Re: Quick Question
> 
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 02:57:55 -0400
> Brandi Wingard  wrote:
> 
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have been trying for over five years to access a file I created and
> put a
> > password protected lock on.
> > I can no longer remember the password I used to lock the file, so I
> cannot
> > get into it. Is there any way you guys could help me unlock it or
> access
> > what is in it again? It would mean the world to me. It's an important
> > document to me that I would hate to completely lose.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> > --Brandi Wingard
> 
> There is effectively no way to break an OpenOffice password except by
> using brute force, which may (depending on computer speed) tie up your
> computer for days or longer.
> 
> --
> Rory O'Farrell 
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Re: e-mail client (code of conduct)

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

All mailing lists and other properties operated by the Apache Software 
Foundation also come under the Foundation's Code of Conduct policy, 
.

That and the AOO mailing-list civility policy apply to everyone here.

Everyone should step back from this spat and take a deep breath.

For the record, "You're an idiot and a wussy. Tolerate that" is completely 
unacceptable. That should be clear to everyone here.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 18:21
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Spam (16.004):Re: e-mail client (code of conduct)
> 
> A reminder to all that there is a code of conduct on this mailing list.
> 
> It is found here http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html
> 
> I suggest that you read it because my recollection over the years is
> that you do not respect it.
> 
> Please be constructive. I suspect that this message will be lost to you.
> Others on this list should appreciate that we intend this to be a
> positive place for users to get help.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave
> 
> Member of the Apache Software Foundation and the OpenOffice PMC.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 11, 2016, at 4:06 PM, TN Patriot  wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:24:46 -0700
> > Dave Fisher  wrote:
> >
> >> You two are silly. Have some tolerance please, ignore footers and co-
> exist.
> >> You chase others from the community and this is not what we are here
> to do is
> >> it?
> >>
> >> BTW - poster is using a gmail address.
> >>
> >> Regards, (rainbows and unicorns)
> >> Dave
> >
> >  You're an idiot and a wussy. Tolerate that.
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RE: Search & Replace Formula in Cell with a Named Array

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

> -Original Message-
> From: Vince [mailto:wa.two...@verizon.net]
> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 10:18
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Search & Replace Formula in Cell with a Named Array
> 
> (I reported in an earlier posting, /Detecting/Counting Cell's Values if
> data is within a Specific Range of Values,/ that the Play File I created
> was working.  I now find that there are erroneous calculations in the
> file that I am now using (a larger array of data) .
> 
> Also, please note that the number of rows of data within the array will
> change each week, as I add additional bowling scores for the week.)
> 
> 
> _
> 
> Here's my concern: I would appreciate confirmation that the formula:
> 
> =SUMPRODUCT($D$343:$L395>100;$D$343:$L395<109)
> will operate on values detected within the decade equal to 100 through
> 109, inclusively,
> 
> and
> 
>   =SUMPRODUCT($D$343:$L395>110;$D$343:$L395<119)
> will operate on values detected within the decade equal to 110 through
> 119, inclusively.
> 
> Regards,
> VinceB.
[orcmid] 

In case this remains a question. >100 does not include 100 and <109 does not 
include 109.

So long as the values are integers, >99 and <110 cover 100 to 109 inclusive.

Just remember that ">" is more-than and "<" is less-than.



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RE: OPEN OFFICE 4.1.2 uninstall

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

 1. Start Apache OpenOffice (any application or the dashboard).

 2. On the menu bar, click through Tools > Options ... > OpenOffice > Memory 
and under OpenOffice Quickstarter, *remove* the check mark for "Load OpenOffice 
during system start-up"

 3. Close OpenOffice.

 4. Restart your PC

 5. When Windows 10 comes back up, you should now be able to uninstall AOO.


 - Dennis


> -Original Message-
> From: john [mailto:jd...@yahoo.com.INVALID]
> Sent: Friday, June 3, 2016 12:12
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: OPEN OFFICE 4.1.2 uninstall
> 
> Good afternoon.
> 
> Need assistance please. I want to uninstall current program but when In
> run install wizard it stops and gives me a message saying to “please
> exit 4.1.2 and 4.1 quickstarter and mentions something about making sure
> program is closed and no other users have it open. This is home personal
> computer and no other program is open when I try to uninstall. How can I
> check and correct this problem please? Using Win 10.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> John
> 
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RE: Using open office on tablet

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

The Lenova product comes with Windows 10.  Not clear if Windows 10 Home or 
Windows 10 Pro.

> -Original Message-
> From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 11:48
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Using open office on tablet
> 
> J wrote on 31/05/2016 11:48:
> 
> > Is it safe to assume that if I load your openoffice software onto a
> tablet with keyboard it will work without any problems?
> 
> The primary issue is what version of what operating system does that
> hardware use.
> 
> The hardware specs are borderline OK.
> 
> jonathon
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RE: Using open office on tablet

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

We will need to hear from individuals who use this type of tablet configuration 
with Apache OpenOffice. 

 - Dennis

Meanwhile, here is some general information that may be useful to you. 

The AOO project does not directly test for these kinds of configurations, 
although the software should be able to be installed and run.  Apache 
OpenOffice does not provide any touch and small-screen optimizations.

There is no direct conversion from Word document formats to PDF.  Apache 
OpenOffice would convert from the Word format to its native/internal format and 
from there to PDF.  Full preservation of Word features and formatting is not 
assured in that process.  You would need to test whether the fidelity was 
sufficient for your purpose.

In the US, I only see specifications for a Mix 300 model with 64GB solid-state 
storage.  

Considering that the Lenova MIIX 300 comes with a first-year subscription to 
Office 365 Personal, it may be preferable to take advantage of Word's ability 
to save documents as PDF and also take advantage of the tablet support in that 
software, along with the 1TB OneDrive online storage that is part of the Office 
365 Personal bundle.   I am assuming that the product available in The 
Netherlands has those features the same as they are offered in the US.

Since you can always install Apache OpenOffice and verify its use side-by-side 
with the Office 365 Personal, that might be a good way to proceed. You would 
have a full year to decide whether to renew the Office 365 Personal 
subscription after first learning to use what is already integrated in the 
product and determining whether you can accomplish your work with AOO alone.

 - Dennis


> -Original Message-
> From: J [mailto:i...@j-r.nl]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 04:49
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Using open office on tablet
> 
> Dear Sir/Madam,
> 
> Is it safe to assume that if I load your openoffice software onto a
> tablet with keyboard it will work without any problems?
> I am looking at the LENOVO MIIX 300,(10,1" / Atom Z3537F / 2GB / 32GB)
> OR ASUS (Intel Atom, 2 GB, 32 GB Solid State Drive, 10.1 inch).
> Does the software incorporate a word to pdf converter?
> 
> Thanks and Kind Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John Ruane
> J Virtual Reality Entertainment
> Kolk 8
> 4241 TJ Arkel
> T: +31 (0)183-637927
> F: +31 (0)183-635386
> M:+31 (0)6-54741661
> www.j-r.nl
> www.j-r.nl/flipbooks
> 
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RE: [PROPOSAL][API][WINDOWS]Whether Common Spelling API can be implemented

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Moving to dev@, BCC to users@

Please continue this discussion on dev@ for technical purposes.

Please provide more information about the Common Spelling API and where its 
specification can be found.  Also, is there any connection with the indexing 
APIs that would allow ODF documents to be full-text searched?

Finally, is the API one that many providers offer as well as many consumers 
use, or is there some other model involved.  The architecture needs to be 
understood.

 - Dennis

More thoughts,

I suspect that the way that AOO integrates writing aids, including spelling 
checkers, would not be very compatible.  In addition, it would likely involve 
silent loading of all of AOO in order to accomplish integration.

The proposal is interesting.  However, it might require considerable 
refactoring and architectural adjustment in AOO to have the writing aids 
accessible by libraries that could be shared between AOO and other Windows 
applications. 

But without more details, it is not possible to form any assessment at all. 

PS: Do not write directly to me.  This needs to be a public dev@ discussion.  I 
will treat replies to me as providing permission to forward them as I see fit.



> -Original Message-
> From: Zhuravliov Alexey Gennadyevich [mailto:alexz...@voliacable.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 07:05
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: [PROPOSAL][API][WINDOWS]Whether Common Spelling API can be
> implemented
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Can  Common Spelling API (which was in MS Office up to version 2000 as
> far  as  I know) be implemented in AOO on Windows. It can boost AOO on
> Windows  of  course  if there are programs that use it now (I know one
> which used it in past - The Bat! e-mail client).
> 
> --
> Best regards,
>  Alexey Zhuravliov
> 
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RE: Detecting/Counting Cell's Values if data is within a Specific Range of Values

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

There might be a more direct way, but try

 =COUNTIF(D342:L380;">99")-COUNTIF(D342:L380;">129")

If you mean between 100 and 129 inclusive.  Adjust as necessary.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Vince [mailto:wa.two...@verizon.net]
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 08:02
> To: AOO Mail List 
> Subject: Detecting/Counting Cell's Values if data is within a Specific
> Range of Values
> 
> Using AOO 4.1.2 and Win 8.1
> _
> 
> I am using this
> =COUNTIF(D342:L380;">100")
> in a Calc cell, and it returns a count of all data values within the
> D342:L380 that are greater than 100 .  Possible data values found within
> D342 and L380 include: 0 through 300.
> 
> However, what I really want to count is all data values between 100 and
> 129, for example.
> IOW, count if data value within cells D342 through L380 is between 100
> and 129.
> 
> What is the required formula/function in Calc to reach my goal?
> 
> Regards,
> Vince B.
> 
> 
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RE: database file

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

The screenshot attachment is not preserved by the list.

However, based on what you say, there are a couple of likely cases.

 1. The file is not being opened by OpenOffice Base.  You can check that by 
opening Base first (using the Apache OpenOffice dashboard that has buttons for 
all of the individual applications) and taking the option to open an existing 
database file.  See if you can find your simple .odb and open it that way.

 2. If (1) fails, your .odb file may have been corrupted and is not being 
recognized as an OpenOffice Base file by Apache OpenOffice.  

To explore (2) further, please open an issue on the Apache OpenOffice bugzilla 
at .  You will need to create an account for 
yourself using the email address you want to follow the issue with.  

You can add the screenshot as an attachment.  You can also upload the .odb file 
as an attachment of the same issue.  Consider whether or not you have 
proprietary information in the database before doing that -- the issue 
attachment will be public.

If you can't upload the .odb (including it being too large for an attachment) 
there are tests you can run yourself.  Make a copy of the .odb and rename it to 
be a .zip instead of .odb.  If a Zip utility can't open it, or if the Test 
feature of a Zip utility such as 7-zip or WinZip says the file is damaged or 
not a Zip, that confirms the .odb has been corrupted.  It is probably not 
recoverable.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Gehman [mailto:jgeh...@abmtexas.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 09:48
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: database file
> 
> I can no longer open a simple “.odb” file any longer in OpenOffice.
> 
> 
> 
> I just opens a filter selection dialogue window.  See screenshot.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> What happened?
> 
> 
> 
> Jeff Gehman | MPS Coordinator | American Business Machines
> 
> 7303 W. Sam Houston Parkway N. Houston, TX 77040 | www.ABMTexas.com
> 
> 
> office: 713-688-8892 x316 | mobile: 832-420-0931 | email:
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RE: Custom number format code problem

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

I covered it with my confirmation of the Writer case, cross-referencing between 
Issue 126973 and Issue 126827.  

I agree, the help is incorrect.

In addition, while the Calc case works if the file is saved as Excel, there is 
no case that works for writer.

Thanks for opening the issue, Girvin.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Girvin R. Herr [mailto:gherr...@sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 14:29
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Custom number format code problem
> 
> Martin,
> 
> I never tested it with Calc.  Thanks.
> 
> You should add this to the bugzilla issue 126973 I created.  If you
> don't want to, let me know and I will append this to my comments. It
> would be better coming from you, though.
> 
> Girvin
> 
> 
> 
> On 05/16/2016 01:47 PM, Martin Groenescheij wrote:
> > I hVe test this also with Calc and  it has the same problem.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 17 May 2016, at 5:53 AM, Girvin R. Herr <gherr...@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dennis et al,
> >> A specimen file is no problem.  It is repeatable and can be verified
> in any writer file.  As a test, I just opened a new blank writer file,
> inserted a 2x2 table, right-clicked in a table cell and brought up the
> "Number Format" option.  I then added the subject number format by
> modifying  the existing "Currency" | "-$1,234.00" (red) format by
> appending the # to the $#,##0.00 fields, producing $#,##0.00#, and
> clicking on "Add".  This new format is then present in the "User
> Defined" and "Currency" number Categories.  However, saving this test
> file and re-opening the test file shows that the $#,##0.00# fields are
> changed to $#,##0.000.
> >>
> >> I will look into reporting this in bugzilla.  But if it is an ODF
> spec problem, then it may not be fixable.  The Help should be changed to
> reflect the limitation, though.
> >> Thanks.
> >> Girvin Herr
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 05/16/2016 07:53 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> >>> Issue 126827 may be relevant to this also, having to do with the
> limitations of how the ODF specification limits what can be recorded in
> the .odt file.  https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126827
> >>>
> >>> Assuming the user is operating with Writer and .odt, a specimen file
> would help us see if that is the case.
> >>>
> >>>   - Dennis
> >>>
> >>>> -Original Message-
> >>>> From: Martin Groenescheij [mailto:mar...@groenescheij.com]
> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 01:00
> >>>> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> >>>> Cc: mar...@groenescheij.com
> >>>> Subject: Re: Custom number format code problem
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes this is a bug and you should report it in bugzilla
> >>>> <https://bz.apache.org/ooo/>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 16/05/16 6:11 AM, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
> >>>>> Greetings,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AOO 4.1.2 on Slackware Linux 14.0 (K3.10.17).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I seem to be having a problem with a custom number format in
> Writer
> >>>>> table cells in a template.  What I want is to display 2 digits to
> the
> >>>>> right of the decimal point if the value's third digit and beyond
> is
> >>>>> zero and 3 digits if the value's third digit is non zero.
> Examples:
> >>>>>  Value  Display Result
> >>>>>  123.45  >  123.45
> >>>>>  123.456  >  123.456
> >>>>>  123.4562 >  123.456
> >>>>> I am using the following format code to do this:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [$$-409]#,##0.00#;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00#
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This format code works as long as I do not change the document's
> >>>>> template (update).  When I open the document again, I get the
> message
> >>>>> that the template has changed and when I update the template, the
> >>>>> format in the document returns to:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [$$-409]#,##0.000;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.000
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The root problem seems to be in the template save.  When I change
> the
> >>>>> template format code to .00# and save it with the save icon, the
> next
> >>>>&g

RE: Custom number format code problem

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Issue 126827 may be relevant to this also, having to do with the limitations of 
how the ODF specification limits what can be recorded in the .odt file.  
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126827

Assuming the user is operating with Writer and .odt, a specimen file would help 
us see if that is the case.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Groenescheij [mailto:mar...@groenescheij.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 01:00
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: mar...@groenescheij.com
> Subject: Re: Custom number format code problem
> 
> Yes this is a bug and you should report it in bugzilla
> 
> 
> 
> On 16/05/16 6:11 AM, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > AOO 4.1.2 on Slackware Linux 14.0 (K3.10.17).
> >
> > I seem to be having a problem with a custom number format in Writer
> > table cells in a template.  What I want is to display 2 digits to the
> > right of the decimal point if the value's third digit and beyond is
> > zero and 3 digits if the value's third digit is non zero.  Examples:
> > Value  Display Result
> > 123.45  >  123.45
> > 123.456  >  123.456
> > 123.4562 >  123.456
> > I am using the following format code to do this:
> >
> > [$$-409]#,##0.00#;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00#
> >
> > This format code works as long as I do not change the document's
> > template (update).  When I open the document again, I get the message
> > that the template has changed and when I update the template, the
> > format in the document returns to:
> >
> > [$$-409]#,##0.000;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.000
> >
> > The root problem seems to be in the template save.  When I change the
> > template format code to .00# and save it with the save icon, the next
> > time I open or use the template, it has reverted back to .000.  I
> > re-read the help on custom format codes and it confirms that what I am
> > doing is supposed to work.  In fact, it is one of the examples.
> >
> > Is there something I need to do to make this format code sticky in the
> > template or is this a bug?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Girvin Herr
> >
> >
> >
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RE: Thunderbird

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

According to the linked report and the analysis commissioned from Simon Phipps, 
the Apache Software Foundation is not one of the top three under consideration. 
 

Under a section on "Other Alternatives" there is a nice summary about how 
projects are operated under the ASF and also limitations to consider.  Simon 
does not mention what is perhaps the most difficult limitation -- establishing 
code provenance and IP clearance under which Thunderbird source releases can be 
made under the Apache License.  In addition, there are gating conditions on 
core developers (so-called initial committers) for the Apache incubation 
process.  The ASF does not accept "code dumps" and needs some confidence that a 
sustainable project is coming over.  I assume that it is in Mozilla's interests 
as well.  The authors and supporters of Thunderbird extensions/themes/add-ins 
are also stakeholders in this matter.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: David Smith [mailto:da...@luda.net]
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 03:02
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Thunderbird
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> > On May 12, 2016, at 12:27 AM, Hal Parker 
> wrote:
> >
> > Just as a matter of interest, I assume you all know that Thunderbird
> may be
> > finding a new home this year, according to Mark Surman, executive
> director
> > of the Mozilla Foundation. This probably will make little or no
> difference
> > to users, since Thunderbird has been a purely volunteer-run project
> for the
> > past 4 years, but I find the prospect interesting, since The Apache
> > Foundation and The Document Foundation are both under consideration.
> > https://marksurman.commons.ca/2016/04/25/firefox-and-thunderbird-a-
> fork-in-the-road/
> 
> 
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RE: [Grid lines in Calc]

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

I think the important element of this thread is that John Caruso now has the 
information for turning on grid lines when he prints from Calc.

> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Barker [mailto:b.m.bar...@btinternet.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 10:54
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [Grid lines in Calc]
> 
> At 10:23 04/05/2016 -0700, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
> >Brian,
> >You forgot the file global print grid option:
> >Format | Page | Sheet and check the Print | Grid box
> 
> You are quite right, of course: I did.
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RE: OppenOffice converted all my files to another format

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Also, OpenOffice does not touch existing files in any manner.  There is no 
automatic conversion of files.  Also, .rtf is a Microsoft-specified format. 

It sounds as if the File Associations (tying files of a given type to 
applications) have been disturbed, if you are on Windows.

Try Robert's suggestion.

Also, be sure to download Apache OpenOffice via this web page: 
.

> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Funnell [mailto:robert.funn...@mcgill.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 08:28
> To: Doug Wilson 
> Cc: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: OppenOffice converted all my files to another format
> 
> Doug -
> 
> When you say that Word 'no longer opens' them, do you mean that when
> you double-click on them they're opened in OpenOffice? If so, it means
> that the file association has been changed. Can you right-click on a
> .rtf file and choose to open it with Word?
> 
> - Robert
> 
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016, Doug Wilson wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have just spent the last 20 minutes navigating your help and contact
> pages and can make no sense of them, so I am contacting you directly in
> hopes of finding 1. an explanation, and 2. a solution to the following:
> >
> > Recently I downloaded your free open office software so I could view
> client files I received by email. It works great.
> >
> > The problem is that all my original MSWORD template documents have
> been converted to the .rtf open office format. WORD no longer opens any
> of them. I certainly did not do this, noir would I have granted open
> oiffice permission to do so.
> >
> > So whatʼs going on? I want my files returned.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Doug Wilson
> > www.amethystboutique.com
> > https://www.facebook.com/AmethystBoutique.NS
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[REPORT] Issue Clearance Quality through 2016Q1

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

The analysis on accumulation of issues has been updated to reflect the status 
for the first Quarter (January - March) of 2016 (literally, as of 2016-04-08).

The detailed tabulation is in the PDF at <http://s.apache.org/YFT>.

The arrival of new issues has been declining, year over year.

Although the rate of arrivals has declined, the rate of issues remaining open 
is consistently in excess of 40% of those reported since OpenOffice became a 
full project of the Apache Software Foundation in the last quarter of 2012.

The increased rate for 2016 YTD may simply be a consequence of the short time 
those newest issues have been open, relatively speaking.   

Issues are not open if they are marked as CLOSED or RESOLVED in some manner.  
Typically, open issues are marked UNCONFIRMED or CONFIRMED depending on the 
level of analysis that has occurred.  

An issue can be RESOLVED as FIXED, meaning that the repair is in hand, even 
though a release containing the repair has not been produced yet.  Such an 
issue may progress to VERIFIED when it is confirmed that the issue is resolved 
in a new release, and it will be CLOSED subsequently.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 11:23
> To: d...@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: [REPORT] Issue Clearance Quality + Technical Debt
> 
> [BCC to Project Management Committee and users@ oo.a.o]
> 
> SUMMARY
> 
> The top-level analysis of Bugzilla issue handling has been completed for
> all issues opened on the project through December 31, 2015.
> 
> The complete tabulation is in the PDF document at
> <http://s.apache.org/YFT>.
> 
> It remains the case that since the establishment of Apache OpenOffice as
> an ASF Top Level Project in November, 2012, the accrual of unresolved
> issues exceeds 40%.  That is, for every 100 new issues, on the average
> more than 40 of them will be unresolved indefinitely.
> 
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RE: Issue 98998 - AutoFormat style should be re-applied after deleting rows or columns

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Rod,

I just looked at your new comment on that issue before seeing your message here.

I don't know what "staff member" you are talking about.  There haven't been 
staff members since Apache OpenOffice started up following a license grant from 
Oracle Corporation.  All we have are volunteers providing their personal time, 
and how that time is prioritized depends on their capacity, competence, and 
commitment with respect to any specific situation.  

It appears that QA volunteer Edwin Sharp did not answer your last question to 
him on 2014-01-06.  I have no idea what he meant by his last couple of 
comments.  He has not been active on the Bugzilla since May of that year.

An issue usually has an indication how and when its status was changed.  I am 
not clear how or when Issue 98998 was marked RESOLVED - NOT_AN_ISSUE.  That 
does seem inappropriate.

In any case, there is not enough information there to be clear what the issue 
is and whether it involves enhancement to by-design behavior or not.  See my 
comment following yours.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Lockwood [mailto:rodlockw...@provide.net]
> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2016 13:26
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Issue 98998 - AutoFormat style should be re-applied after
> deleting rows or columns
> 
> While doing research for another problem I just found out that the
> defect on Issue 98998
>  - AutoFormat style
> should be re-applied after deleting rows or columns has been marked
> resolved despite the fact that there is at least one staff member who
> agrees that this issue should be fixed:
> 
> White Phoenix2014-02-02 20:45:10 UTC
> 
> Apache OpenOffice @ApacheOO · 4h
> 
> @WhitePhoenixUS What is "expected" is judged from the perspective of
> users like you.  There is always room for improvement.
> 
> There should be a way for the Applied Styles list to be refreshed
> without closing and re-opening the file.
> 
> This is a message that was sent to me on Twitter two years ago. Recently
> on Twitter there was a lady who made a big fuss about customer service
> on Twitter. I was one of the defenders. I told her that despite this
> issue hadn’t been fixed yet, I still hadn’t given up on Apache
> OpenOffice. Now I find out that it seems AOO has given up on me.
> 
> I don’t like LibreOffice and I don’t trust Google any more than I trust
> Microsoft, but it would appear that I need to find another Linux office
> suite. Money is not an issue, since I found OpenOffice, but I really
> find it galling that this issue should be simply dismissed so off-
> handedly.
> 
> --
> Sincerely,
> Rod Lockwood


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RE: Change read only files to allow me to edit and save revisions

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Now that you are accessing the drive remotely, there may be an account issue 
for providing anything but read-only access for access over your local network. 
 

Do both of your machines receive only read-only access or is one of them able 
to write to the router-attached drive?   (This was already asked but you might 
not have seen it.)

You might want to look at restoring the drive to your laptop and figuring out a 
different sharing option, whether by copying the data to iCloud or some other 
shared storage solution that doesn't require both machines to be on to share 
files across them.

It might be possible to populate a network-accessible drive in a way that works 
better than moving an attached drive to the network after population.  That's 
an operating-system and network file-sharing issue and not something that 
OpenOffice solves.  OpenOffice just uses what is visible via the computer 
operating system and account being used.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Eldon Fredericks [mailto:fre...@purdue.edu]
> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 11:54
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Change read only files to allow me to edit and save
> revisions
> 
> Should have described operating system. I’m using a mac with os x
> 10.11.4 (el Capitan). Any suggestions? The files were created with the
> Seagate drive connected directly to my laptop. Now I have the Seagate
> connected to the router so I can get at the files from both my laptop
> and my iMac.
> 
> Thanks,
> freder
> 
> > On Apr 22, 2016, at 1:06 PM, Johnny Rosenberg 
> wrote:
> >
> > 2016-04-22 18:47 GMT+02:00 Eldon Fredericks :
> >
> >> I have a whole bunch of files, both Open Office Writer and Open
> Office
> >> Calc files created by me and stored on a Seagate drive connected to
> my
> >> wireless router.
> >>
> >> I can see those files and I can retrieve them but I cannot modify nor
> save
> >> them.
> >>
> >> Is there a way to modify read only files to allow editing and saving?
> >>
> >
> > Depends on why you can't modify them and what operating system you are
> > running. If those files belongs to a different user (root, for
> instance),
> > then you probably wouldn't be able to open them at all, unless you
> have
> > group read rights. If, for some reason, your files doesn't have any
> write
> > rights, the same problem will occur. This is easily fixed for all your
> > files with a one-liner in Bash, if you are on Linux or similar, using
> a
> > combination of find and chmod. For instance by looking for all files
> in a
> > certain directory (and sub directories) named (using regular
> expressions)
> > ”.*\.od[st]”, and change their permissions with chmod +w.
> >
> > And don't forget to do the same on your backup to AFTER you made sure
> your
> > one-liner actually works…
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Johnny Rosenberg
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks for any help.
> >>
> >> freder
> >>
> >>
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RE: Will not print

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

In a direct reply to me, Richard confirmed that he was able to solve the 
problem from the information provided in reply to his report.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org]
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 10:46
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: 'RIchard Moyer' <moyer5...@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: RE: Will not print
> 
> (CC in case Richard is not subscribed to the list)
> 
> Richard,
> 
> There are also settings that you can use to control this case.  In Tools
> > Options under Load/Save > General, remove any check for "Load printer
> settings with the document" beneath the Load portion of the dialog
> window.
> 
> But do the first things, below too.
> 
>  - Dennis
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org]
> > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 08:44
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: Will not print
> >
> > Don't attempt to print using the print button.
> >
> > Instead, Click File > Print and on the General tab see what printer is
> > selected.  If it is not the OfficeJet Pro, find the OfficeJet Pro in
> the
> > list and select it.  (Calc may have remembered the previous printer
> that
> > you used.)  If this works, save the spreadsheet again to see if that
> > changes the default for next time.
> >
> > If you do not see the OfficeJet Pro in the list, there is a problem
> with
> > it being found.  Then more troubleshooting is required.
> >
> > Let us know if changing the File > Print General tab Printer selection
> > works.
> >
> >  - Dennis
> [ ... ]
> 
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RE: Will not print

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

(CC in case Richard is not subscribed to the list)

Richard,

There are also settings that you can use to control this case.  In Tools > 
Options under Load/Save > General, remove any check for "Load printer settings 
with the document" beneath the Load portion of the dialog window.

But do the first things, below too.

 - Dennis



> -Original Message-----
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org]
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 08:44
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Will not print
> 
> Don't attempt to print using the print button.
> 
> Instead, Click File > Print and on the General tab see what printer is
> selected.  If it is not the OfficeJet Pro, find the OfficeJet Pro in the
> list and select it.  (Calc may have remembered the previous printer that
> you used.)  If this works, save the spreadsheet again to see if that
> changes the default for next time.
> 
> If you do not see the OfficeJet Pro in the list, there is a problem with
> it being found.  Then more troubleshooting is required.
> 
> Let us know if changing the File > Print General tab Printer selection
> works.
> 
>  - Dennis
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RE: Will not print

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Don't attempt to print using the print button.

Instead, Click File > Print and on the General tab see what printer is 
selected.  If it is not the OfficeJet Pro, find the OfficeJet Pro in the list 
and select it.  (Calc may have remembered the previous printer that you used.)  
If this works, save the spreadsheet again to see if that changes the default 
for next time.

If you do not see the OfficeJet Pro in the list, there is a problem with it 
being found.  Then more troubleshooting is required.

Let us know if changing the File > Print General tab Printer selection works.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: RIchard Moyer [mailto:moyer5...@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 04:23
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Will not print
> 
> I have been sing OPEN OFFICE for a number of years, with a lot of
> spreadsheets which have been saved.  I purchased a new printer, HP
> Office jet pro 6830 and now nothing will print from Open Office.
> Other things will print, but not anything saved in Open office.
> Do you have any suggestions on how to fix this?  It say Printer not
> connected.  Please advise.
> 
> Thank You
> 
> Richard Moyer  Phone  561-630-9111 e  mail
> “moyer5...@bellsouth.net"
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RE: Default behaviour with links to other documents

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

This behavior is a result of a security-vulnerability mitigation that was 
introduced in Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2.  See 
.

The remedy that was used is not very nuanced.  I believe that the Tools > 
Options > OpenOffice Calc > General > Updating options are ignored and "On 
request" is performed instead of "Always."

You can verify that.  

See Bugzilla Issue 126641, 
.  

If you are careful to use the workaround only when working with spreadsheets of 
your own creation and not obtained from others, the adjustment that Andrea 
Pescetti describes might work for you, even though it talks about macros.  Try 
it.

With regard to the notification about whether updating from links was 
successful or not, we probably would require that to be there, simply because 
it is the only way someone might see that unexpected link updating is happening 
when part of a covert action.  That should be treated as a separate issue for 
further consideration.  That is not going to happen so easily.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Johnny Rosenberg [mailto:gurus.knu...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 14:56
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Default behaviour with links to other documents
> 
> I have a few spreadsheet documents that contain one or more links to
> other
> documents. Every time I open them I get the very annoying question about
> whether I want the links to be updated or not.
> 
> Is there a way I can set a default behaviour for that? I mean the
> current
> behaviour seems to be ”ask the user”, and I want it do be either ”yes”
> or
> ”no”, just so I don't need to get annoyed by that irritating dialogue
> every
> time I open such a document (which I do daily).
> 
> And if I select ”yes” or ”no” as default behaviour, I don't want to see
> any
> dialogue windows about it at all from there on. No ”Your links were
> updated
> successfully”, nor ”Your links were not updated”.
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Johnsenberg


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RE: Removing personal data

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

[BCC to original reporter]

Kathelijne,

The address users@openoffice.apache.org is a public mailing list with archives 
that preserve all mail sent to the list.  Your original mail, and the one I am 
replying to is not received by an individual but the entire set of subscribers 
to the list.  The archive is available for folks who may have similar problems 
or who want to find out what different solutions have been offered.

It is unfortunate that you did not understand users@ is a public list.  It is 
for community support among users who have problems and/or expertise to share 
with the full community.  All participants are volunteers.  

Since the communications you refer to happened two years ago, they have been 
seen by many people already and the archive you link to has long since been 
preserved in places not under our control.  That Google found it indicates how 
visible that information has been all this time.  Google and other search 
engines may have their own archive of the material as well.  

It is difficult to see what can be done that will make a difference at this 
point.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Kathelijne Rickert
> Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 08:58
> To: Open Office 
> Subject: Removing personal data
> 
> Dear OpenOffice-team,
> 
> Today I googled my own name and figured out that an email I wrote to one
> of
> your services is available online, with my private emailaddress
> accessible
> for anyone who would like to have it.
> 
> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-
> dev/201403.mbox/%3CCAHaeU1ZyWDtauKiKG9B8KoB5D0pvgUOteoEb9uWMM5-jR5J3-
> g...@mail.gmail.com%3E
> 
> Can you make sure to remove this file or at least remove my personal
> data?
> 
> The same goes for this email of course.
> 
> Please let me know when everything is ok.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Kathelijne Rickert


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RE: Freeware for sale on eBay and Amazon?

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

When you correct the search to work, it brings up Open Office offers included 
in the Microsoft Office ones.  See below,

> -Original Message-
> From: Gerry Dutchie [mailto:wingb...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 02:39
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org
> Subject: Re: Freeware for sale on eBay and Amazon?
> 
> Gerard states this link:
> 
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=Microsoft+Office+Professional+201
> 6
> 
> That refers to Microsoft Software and has nothing to do with
> OpenOffice...
> The link is not valid anyway, so...
[ ... ]
> [orcmid]
> 
> To make the search work from everywhere, go to
>  >
> 
> 
> And type the search entry "Microsoft Office Professional 2016" (without
> the quotes).
> 
> 
> There are a variety of so-called "Open Office" offerings mingled among
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RE: Freeware for sale on eBay and Amazon?

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

[BCC to Apache OpenOffice Project Management Committee]

The license on Apache OpenOffice software does not prohibit redistribution and 
trading in the software.  It is not "freeware" in the common sense of that 
term.  It is open-source software and it is made freely available to the public 
by the Apache Software Foundation.

However, Apache, OpenOffice, and Apache OpenOffice are registered trademarks or 
trademarks in various jurisdictions around the world (including the UK).  
Whether those marks are misused depends on individual cases.  Investigation is 
done privately since there are legal matters. 

Producers of products in which works of Apache projects are employed can 
determine appropriate usage and how to obtain clearances at 

 and 
  

And, in particular, .

For Apache OpenOffice, requests should be submitted to 
.

Thank you for your concern.  

> -Original Message-
> From: Gerard Dumont [mailto:gdumont1...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 03:31
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: sp...@ebay.co.uk
> Subject: Freeware for sale on eBay and Amazon?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> On eBay you can find OpenOffice being sold although it is freeware?
> 
> 
> 
> Source:
> 
> 
>
[orcmid] 

To make the search work from everywhere, go to 



And type the search entry "Microsoft Office Professional 2016" (without the 
quotes).
 

There are a variety of so-called "Open Office" offerings mingled among those.



 




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RE: Re: no backup

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Thanks Hagar,

Also, for users on Windows 10, there is a built-in backup service that 
timestamps the backed-up files, so you can have a series of previous versions 
of a file and should be able to find a good one in that history if there has 
been a subsequent mishap.

The backups can be directed to an attached USB Drive, providing recovery of 
documents in the case of catastrophic PC or primary disk failure also.

The backup does not require attention once setup or, if for some reason, the 
backup becomes full.  It also doesn't appear to interfere with ongoing computer 
usage at all.

> -Original Message-
> From: Hagar Delest [mailto:hagar.del...@laposte.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 11:10
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: Ron Patterson 
> Subject: Re:  Re: no backup
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think that there were extensions to make backups. Still to be launched
> manually IIRC but it would add a time stamp so that you keep the
> history.
> 
> Beware, OP not subscribed to the list.
> 
> Hagar
> 
> 
> Le 27/03/2016 à 03:38, Girvin R. Herr a écrit :
> >
> >
> > On 03/26/2016 10:00 AM, Ron Patterson wrote:
> >> Open Office 4.1.2  - spreadsheets - hard to make backups.  I checked
> the backup box in tools\options\load-save\general\always create backup -
> >>
> >> However the only way I can create a backup is similar to MS Word. I
> have to save the srpeadsheet.  Make a minor change (like at a dot at the
> bottom) are resave and now i can find the backup under
> appdata\4\user\roaming\backup.
> >>
> >> Is this the only way to force a backup copy?
> >>
> > Ron,
> > Yes, to my knowledge a backup file is created when the document is
> saved.  There is also the auto-recovery system which periodically saves
> the document data so it could be restored in case AOO crashes without
> saving the document.  These are the only two backup systems that I know
> of in AOO.  Someone else may elaborate on that.
> > hth
> > Girvin Herr
> >
> >
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RE: Posting Alert Message Experimentation

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

In addition, one can obtain information on SourceForge status by following 
twitter account @sfnet_ops

These are generic, generally, but they may be helpful when there appears to be 
a problem obtaining Apache OpenOffice downloads.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org]
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 00:14
> To: d...@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Posting Alert Message Experimentation
> 
> On 11/03/2016 Marcus wrote:
> > Am 03/11/2016 09:59 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
> >> That didn't work very well.  Especially since the two services were
> back
> >  > up relatively quickly, faster than the messages were of any use.
> > have you setup the alert message to be sent to your mail account? Then
> > you could wait for some minutes before forwarding to these mailing
> lists.
> 
> It is almost always useless to forward those messages to the list. The
> noise is very high. Especially simultaneous messages about both wiki and
> forum being down are symptoms of a problem that is not server-specific
> (the two services are on different servers), usually some maintenance
> operation by Infra that, as it happened, will be completed within a few
> minutes.
> 
> >  > You can also check Local Project Services at
> >  > http://status.apache.org/pubsub/manage.cgi
> 
> This is the recommended way for people to subscribe to alerts: all you
> need is an e-mail address. We could have chosen to subscribe the lists
> to alerts, but it doesn't make sense in light of the above
> considerations.
> 
> Regards,
>Andrea.
> 
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RE: file

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

>From Microsoft Office 2016: "The file format and extension of don't match.  
>The file could be corrupted or unsafe. ..."

I recommend that anyone receiving this message from the list simply delete it 
and its attachment.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: alex3706...@yandex.ru [mailto:alex3706...@yandex.ru]
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 04:36
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: file
> 
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RE: a question about docx files.

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Sony,

Thank you for your comments.

Yes, this is a desirable feature.  I don't think there is any longer any 
serious question about that.  

The reality is that Apache OpenOffice, a volunteer-developed software product, 
does not have the means to provide the feature at this time and cannot plan on 
it.

If that changes, there will be prominent notice.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Sony Cyriac [mailto:sonyckov...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:08
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org
> Subject: Re: a question about docx files.
> 
> Dennis Hamilton,
> 
> Could that be considered as a new feature request. I feel like an export
> to
> docx format would be useful for many users.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> On Tue 15 Mar, 2016, 9:01 PM Dennis E. Hamilton,
> <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > Nasrin Khaksar,
> >
> > Thank you for your request.
> >
> > Apache OpenOffice does not produce docx files.  There is no effort to
> > provide docx output at this time.
> >
> > There are free products that do feature interoperable support for docx
> and
> > the other OOXML formats (xslx, pptx, etc.).
> >
> > Users who make us of such products can give suggestions based on their
> > experience.  I do not use any of those for working in docx so I have
> no
> > informed recommendations.
> >
> > Good fortune in your quest.
> >
> >  - Dennis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: nasrin khaksar [mailto:nasrinkhaks...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 20:55
> > > To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> > > Subject: a question about docx files.
> > >
> > > hi every one.
> > > open office since version 4.1.1 is very fast in openning docx files
> > > akin doc file.
> > > do you know how we can store our documents in docx files?
> > > because for our articles, university and job, we are required to
> store
> > > our documents in docx format.
> > > any help is appreciated.
> > > because i know the people who want to use open office, but they
> dont.
> > > for the reason of lack support of export to docx.
> > > thanks for your help and god bless you.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
> > > written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins
> them
> > > good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
> > > and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them
> their
> > > burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
> > > believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light
> which
> > > has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
> > > holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
> > > best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> > > al-islam.org
> > >
> > > 
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RE: a question about docx files.

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Nasrin Khaksar,

Thank you for your request.

Apache OpenOffice does not produce docx files.  There is no effort to provide 
docx output at this time.

There are free products that do feature interoperable support for docx and the 
other OOXML formats (xslx, pptx, etc.).

Users who make us of such products can give suggestions based on their 
experience.  I do not use any of those for working in docx so I have no 
informed recommendations.

Good fortune in your quest.

 - Dennis







> -Original Message-
> From: nasrin khaksar [mailto:nasrinkhaks...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 20:55
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: a question about docx files.
> 
> hi every one.
> open office since version 4.1.1 is very fast in openning docx files
> akin doc file.
> do you know how we can store our documents in docx files?
> because for our articles, university and job, we are required to store
> our documents in docx format.
> any help is appreciated.
> because i know the people who want to use open office, but they dont.
> for the reason of lack support of export to docx.
> thanks for your help and god bless you.
> 
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> written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
> good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
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> burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
> believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
> has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
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Posting Alert Message Experimentation

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

That didn't work very well.  Especially since the two services were back up 
relatively quickly, faster than the messages were of any use.

For those who want to check status, you can use  http://status.apache.org/> 
yourselves.  You can also check Local Project Services at 
<http://status.apache.org/pubsub/manage.cgi>.  The Open Office Forums and 
OpenOffice Wiki are listed under "Local Project VMs."  Confluence Wiki and 
Bugzilla (OpenOffice) are under "Infra-managed services."

Downloads are served by the SourceForge mirror system and status is not handled 
by Apache Infrastructure.

 - Dennis

> -----Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:43
> To: d...@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: FW: Alert: forum.openoffice.org is down!
> 
> FYI
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: no-re...@status.apache.org [mailto:no-re...@status.apache.org]
> > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:11
> > To: orc...@apache.org
> > Subject: Alert: forum.openoffice.org is down!
> >
> > Hello,
> > Our monitoring system has detected that forum.openoffice.org (https)
> is
> > down: Internal Server Error or equivalent bad message received:
> HTTP/1.1
> > 503 Service Unavailable
> >
> > With regards,
> > Apache Infrastructure.
> >
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FW: Recovery: wiki.openoffice.org is back again!

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

FYI

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:41
> To: orc...@apache.org
> Subject: Recovery: wiki.openoffice.org is back again!
> 
> Hello, Our monitoring system has detected that wiki.openoffice.org
> (https) is working again, ain't that great?!
> 
> With regards,
> Apache Infrastructure
> 
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FW: Recovery: forum.openoffice.org is back again!

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

FYI

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:41
> To: orc...@apache.org
> Subject: Recovery: forum.openoffice.org is back again!
> 
> Hello, Our monitoring system has detected that forum.openoffice.org
> (https) is working again, ain't that great?!
> 
> With regards,
> Apache Infrastructure
> 
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FW: Alert: wiki.openoffice.org is down!

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FYI

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:11
> To: orc...@apache.org
> Subject: Alert: wiki.openoffice.org is down!
> 
> Hello,
> Our monitoring system has detected that wiki.openoffice.org (https) is
> down: Internal Server Error or equivalent bad message received: HTTP/1.1
> 500 MediaWiki exception
> 
> With regards,
> Apache Infrastructure.
> 
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FW: Alert: forum.openoffice.org is down!

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

FYI

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> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:11
> To: orc...@apache.org
> Subject: Alert: forum.openoffice.org is down!
> 
> Hello,
> Our monitoring system has detected that forum.openoffice.org (https) is
> down: Internal Server Error or equivalent bad message received: HTTP/1.1
> 503 Service Unavailable
> 
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> 
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RE: crisis needs help frecover legal document

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

I have examined the file that juliodarican348 provided.

The document sent as an email attachment is neither corrupted nor encrypted.  
It opens correctly without difficulty.  It was produced using Apache OpenOffice 
4.1.1 on Windows by Julio Wright on 2016-03-10T23:24 (2016-03-11T04:24Z).

I examined the components in the .odt Zip package.  The file content consists 
entirely of text paragraphs having nothing but continuous runs of the symbol 
"#".

There is nothing to recover in that file.

 - Dennis



> -Original Message-
> From: juliodarican...@gmail.com [mailto:juliodarican...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 22:46
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: crisis needs help frecover legal document
> 
> please help me recover theses documents I cannt see the words it random
> symbolys please help me recover this file thank you
> 
> 
> Sent from Windows Mail



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RE: about new version of open office:

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

> -Original Message-
> From: nasrin khaksar [mailto:nasrinkhaks...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 07:24
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: about new version of open office:
> 
> hi every one.
> who can help me?
> i want to know about the time for release of open office 4.2.0
> and its new features and system requirements.
> does it support windows xp in version 4.2.0?
> where can i find information and change log of this version?
> thanks and god bless you.
[orcmid] 

Such information is unavailable at this time.  

Those are all good questions.

 - Dennis
> 
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> and a healing for what is in the breasts and a guidance and a mercy
> for the believers.
> Say: In the grace of Allah and in His mercy-- in that they should
> rejoice; it is better than that which they gather.
> holy quran, chapter 10 verses 57 and 58.
> 
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RE: Encrypted Calc file got corrupted

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

e know please if you are able to get anything out of the file.
> 
> Thanks a lot indeed for your help!
> 
> Best,
> Adam
> 
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 3:33 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > Since the file is encrypted, can you upload it somewhere where one of
> us
> > can examine it?  We do not need to know the password.  In fact, it
> might
> > not be useful at all.
> >
> > I am assuming that the corruption message happens immediately and you
> are
> > not offered an opportunity to decrypt it.
> >
> > This can result when a file is not saved completely on exiting
> OpenOffice
> > and/or shutting down the computer.  You can send the link for
> accessing it
> > to secur...@openoffice.apache.org and I will see it.
> >
> > If the file is actually corrupted, it will probably not be
> decryptable,
> > especially if the *last* part of the file, which has the manifest of
> its
> > parts, is lost or damaged.  The manifest holds parameters that must be
> > known, as well as the password, in order to accomplish decryption.
> >
> >  - Dennis
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Adam Bujdoso [mailto:adam.bujd...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 13:53
> > > To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> > > Subject: Encrypted Calc file got corrupted
> > >
> > > Dear Group,
> > >
> > > I have a problem for which I am hoping to get some help from you.
> > >
> > > I am trying to open an encrypted Calc ods file with some quite
> important
> > > data in it, however, when I type in the password after being
> prompted to
> > > do so, I get an error message "The file is corrupt and therefore
> cannot
> > > be
> > > opened. OpenOffice can try to repair the file."
> > >
> > > When I press 'Yes' to repair the file, nothing really happens, the
> file
> > > still doesn't open, and next time I try to open the file, I get the
> same
> > > error message.
> > >
> > > Could you please help me fix this somehow? As mentioned this file
> > > contains
> > > some important data.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot indeed in advance, really appreciated!
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Adam
> >
> >


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RE: Encrypted Calc file got corrupted

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Since the file is encrypted, can you upload it somewhere where one of us can 
examine it?  We do not need to know the password.  In fact, it might not be 
useful at all.

I am assuming that the corruption message happens immediately and you are not 
offered an opportunity to decrypt it.

This can result when a file is not saved completely on exiting OpenOffice 
and/or shutting down the computer.  You can send the link for accessing it to 
secur...@openoffice.apache.org and I will see it.

If the file is actually corrupted, it will probably not be decryptable, 
especially if the *last* part of the file, which has the manifest of its parts, 
is lost or damaged.  The manifest holds parameters that must be known, as well 
as the password, in order to accomplish decryption.  

 - Dennis



> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Bujdoso [mailto:adam.bujd...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 13:53
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Encrypted Calc file got corrupted
> 
> Dear Group,
> 
> I have a problem for which I am hoping to get some help from you.
> 
> I am trying to open an encrypted Calc ods file with some quite important
> data in it, however, when I type in the password after being prompted to
> do so, I get an error message "The file is corrupt and therefore cannot
> be
> opened. OpenOffice can try to repair the file."
> 
> When I press 'Yes' to repair the file, nothing really happens, the file
> still doesn't open, and next time I try to open the file, I get the same
> error message.
> 
> Could you please help me fix this somehow? As mentioned this file
> contains
> some important data.
> 
> Thanks a lot indeed in advance, really appreciated!
> 
> Best,
> Adam


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RE: Updates

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

You speak of root and I assume that means you are using a Linux version of AOO 
4.1.2?

The extension procedure should be the same for all platforms.  I checked the 
procedure using AOO 4.1.2 (on Windows 10) and here is what my experience is:

 1. The notice comes up when I open AOO Writer.  It invites a click for 
"further information."

 2. I click on the download button (small button with downward facing arrow 
that the notice points to).  

 3. A dialog box labeled "Extension Update" opens and there is a checked name 
of an available extension (e.g., the Version 2016.02.01 English spelling and 
hyphenation dictionaries and thesaurus ...).

 4. Yes, the button at the bottom of the dialog says "Install".  This is 
inaccurate.  There are no automatic installs in Apache OpenOffice.

 5.If I click on the Install button, I am taken to a web page, 
, that describes the 
extension and provides a Download button for it.  There is also a list of 
available version, starting with the most-recent, with available downloads.  
There are instructions on how to complete the download and install the 
extension. 

QUESTIONS

 A. Are you not seeing the dialog in (3)?

 B. Is your concern that (4) is inaccurate?

 C. Is the procedure at the web page, (5) clear?

 D. Is your request that there be an automatic Install of updates?


There are some simple steps we might be able to take to clarify this, as first 
steps, without changing the actual procedure.  

First, help us understand the specific problem you are observing and what you 
are asking for.

 - Dennis



> -Original Message-
> From: jd1008 [mailto:jd1...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:13
> To: Apache OpenOffice 
> Subject: Updates
> 
> Dear AOO developers,
> Thank you for this excellent product.
> Currently running AOO 4.1.2
> 
> I have a small problem with updating an extension.
> 
> When I open a document, I get a banner that there is an update
> to an extension (English spelling . etc).
> So, I click on Update  and NOTHING HAPPENS.
> 
> So, why would you insert the alert code in the product, and then
> not execute the update when the user clicks on it?
> 
> If the issue is that the user is NOT root, then why do you offer
> the no-op  "Update" button on the banner? Why do you not offer
> instead a button to download the update to disk,, so that the user
> can run sudo ...etc to install the update?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> JD
> 
> 
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RE: HO UN PROBLEMA RICHIEDO ASSISTENZA

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Giuseppe,

Google translation

Mi dispiace. Avete raggiunto un elenco che funziona solo in lingua inglese.

Si prega di segnalare la vostra difficile lista utenti...@openoffice.apache.org

È inoltre possibile trovare assistenza al Forum della comunitario, 
https://forum.openoffice.org/it/forum/


English

I am sorry.  You have reached a list that works only in English.

Please report your difficult to the list utenti...@openoffice.apache.org 

You may also find assistance at the Community Forum, 
https://forum.openoffice.org/it/forum/

> -Original Message-
> From: Giuseppe Valenti [mailto:valentigiusepp...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 03:49
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Fwd: HO UN PROBLEMA RICHIEDO ASSISTENZA
> 
> -- Messaggio inoltrato --
> Da: Giuseppe Valenti 
> Date: 15 febbraio 2016 12:47
> Oggetto: HO UN PROBLEMA RICHIEDO ASSISTENZA
> A: users@openoffice.apache.org
> 
> 
> Buongiorno,
> uso Open Office da anni,ma questo problema non riesco a
> risolverlo,quindi
> chiedo Vostro aiuto:
> 
> COMPILO UN DOCUMENTO IN FOGLIO DI CALCOLO, LO SALVO NELLO STESSO FORMATO
> E
> LO STESSO SI
> CONVERTE IN PDF SENZA CHE IO NE ABBIA LANCIATA CONVERSIONE
> 
> SE USO INVECE ODT,QUESTA OPERAZIONE AVVIENE NORMALMENTE,VALE A DIRE
> SLAVO
> IN FORMATO
> CORRENTE,LO LAVORO E POI LANCIO CONVERSIONE
> 
> LA VERSIONE DI O.P. SU MIO PC E' OPEN OFFICE 4.1.1. APACHE
> 
> Aiuto !
> 
> Grazie
> 
> Cordiali saluti
> 
> --
> Giuseppe Valenti
> tel. +39 366 748 22 62
> tel. +39 351 114 44 65
> 
> E.mail  valentigiusepp...@gmail.com
> Skype  gvale...@live.it
> 
> 
>  * Prima di stampare pensa all'ambiente**Think about the environment
> before
> printing *
> 
> Important: this email, with any attachments, is confidential and meant
> to
> be read only by the recipient(s). If you're not one of them, please
> delete
> the message and notify the sender. Any improper use of this message
> could
> be persecuted by law. Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Giuseppe Valenti
> tel. +39 366 748 22 62
> tel. +39 351 114 44 65
> 
> E.mail  valentigiusepp...@gmail.com
> Skype  gvale...@live.it
> 
> 
>  * Prima di stampare pensa all'ambiente**Think about the environment
> before
> printing *
> 
> Important: this email, with any attachments, is confidential and meant
> to
> be read only by the recipient(s). If you're not one of them, please
> delete
> the message and notify the sender. Any improper use of this message
> could
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RE: problem loading office

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Four questions:

 1. What is the complete text (title, etc.) of the message window that you 
receive.

 2. What operating system and its version are you using.

 3. Did you use the uninstall provision of your operating system or did you 
uninstall in some other manner?

 4. Did you download via http://www.openoffice.org/download/ and did you wait 
for the download to start without clicking anything else on the page that says 
"Download of openofficeorg.mirror will start in ... seconds...".  You should 
have then downloaded a file whose name begins "Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_... ."

Please answer by reply to users@openoffice.apache.org so that other users can 
help work on this with you.

 - Dennis



> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Good [mailto:rgoo...@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 14:44
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: problem loading office
> 
> Hi I need your help fixing my openoffice. I have been using it for years
> and you sent out an update about a month ago. after the install the
> whole program disappeared. now I have tried un installing and
> reinstalling but it wont load. Ikeeps stopping at the microsoft visual
> c++. How can I fix this?


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RE: Reyes find & replace not working

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Remember, unless a hard line break is added to text, there are no line breaks 
in the paragraphs of text, even though they are reflowed across multiple lines. 
 The reflow into lines is not by line breaks, it is only in the layout.  The 
regular expression doesn't see those, methinks.

Could that be the problem?

 - Dennis

PS: Thanks for explaining what you are attempting to do.

> -Original Message-
> From: Bonnie Riley [mailto:bonnielri...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 18:32
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Reyes find & replace not working
> 
> ^$ to find line break between lines (after checking regular expressions
> box) results in not found error message. OS Windows 8.1.
> 
> Thanks for any guidance!
> 
> 
> --
> Bonnie Riley
> Castro Valley, CA


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RE: please

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

The Community Forum, although a bit more organized and curated, might be along 
the lines you are thinking of:
.

There is also a Wiki, although it is not so crowd-sourced as the original wiki 
idea,
.

It turns out that wikis do have to be curated by someone in order to be 
organized in a way where others can find their way in, etc.

 - Dennis



> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel DeFoe [mailto:daniel.de.foe1...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 19:18
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: please
> 
> I am sort of new here, and I won't pretend to know much, but it seems
> that
> it would be nice if someone with more skill than I have could set up a
> Wiki, that way anyone could sign in who wants to, they could quit when
> they
> wanted to, not show up if they don't want to. Contribute if they want
> to.
> I won't pretend to know all that it would require, but it is just an
> idea
> from something I was reading about connected to another project that I
> am
> working with.
> 
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RE: Is it your official application for Windows Phone?

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

[BCC Apache OpenOffice Project Management Committee]

Juri,

The Windows Store applications "OpenOffice Writer" and "OpenOffice Text Viewer" 
are not produced by the Apache OpenOffice project. 

They are not the "official" application.

Although it is permissible for others to build versions of Apache OpenOffice 
that are their own custom products, there are some formalities involved and it 
is helpful that there be no confusion with distributions provided by the AOO 
project itself.  It is not clear at all what relationship these two apps have 
to Apache OpenOffice.

I see that the listings in the Store link to http://www.openoffice.org as the 
web site for these applications.  Terms of Use are listed as "All rights 
reserved" and the support email address is to 
openoffice.windows.supp...@yahoo.com, not an address for this project.

If and when Windows Store applications are available from the project itself, 
be assured they will be featured prominently on the openoffice.org web site, 
along with distributions made available in other app stores.

Thank you for your report,

 - Dennis






> -Original Message-
> From: Juri Annikov [mailto:juri.anni...@expsoft.eu]  
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 02:00
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Spam (7.521):Is it your official application for Windows Phone?
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> 
> I have question about product in Microsoft Store
> (https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/store/apps/openoffice-text-viewer/9nblggh5gpbv).
>  
> Is it your official application or somebody use your name as
> Publisher
> name and your website as OpenOffice Text Viewer website.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Juri Annikov
> 
> Board member
> 
> Expert Software Development OÜ
> 
> 
> 
> +372 556 372 93
> 
> Skype: j.annikov
> 
> http://expsoft.eu
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RE: Spam (9.021):not opening

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Hello, Brittany,

Can you tell us exactly what the message is?

Describe each line of it, including any title on the frame of the message.

 - Dennis

Please reply to users@openoffice.apache.org where all volunteers can take a 
look at it.



> -Original Message-
> From: BRITTANY MORELLI [mailto:brittanymorell...@yahoo.com.INVALID]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:40
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Spam (9.021):not opening
> 
> When opening the open office app. I’m getting an error message to try to
> reopen the app but it won’t let me. I can’t print from it either. Please
> help as i use this for my business
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RE: Is it your official application for Windows Phone?

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

[BCC to AOO PMC]

I also tested both apps a little.  Neither of them opens or produces 
OpenDocument format files, such as .odt, etc.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 10:01
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Is it your official application for Windows Phone?
> 
> [BCC Apache OpenOffice Project Management Committee]
> 
> Juri,
> 
> The Windows Store applications "OpenOffice Writer" and "OpenOffice Text
> Viewer" are not produced by the Apache OpenOffice project.
> 
> They are not the "official" application.
> 
> Although it is permissible for others to build versions of Apache
> OpenOffice that are their own custom products, there are some
> formalities involved and it is helpful that there be no confusion with
> distributions provided by the AOO project itself.  It is not clear at
> all what relationship these two apps have to Apache OpenOffice.
> 
> I see that the listings in the Store link to http://www.openoffice.org
> as the web site for these applications.  Terms of Use are listed as "All
> rights reserved" and the support email address is to
> openoffice.windows.supp...@yahoo.com, not an address for this project.
> 
> If and when Windows Store applications are available from the project
> itself, be assured they will be featured prominently on the
> openoffice.org web site, along with distributions made available in
> other app stores.
> 
> Thank you for your report,
> 
>  - Dennis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Juri Annikov [mailto:juri.anni...@expsoft.eu]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 02:00
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: Spam (7.521):Is it your official application for Windows
> Phone?
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have question about product in Microsoft Store
> > (https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/store/apps/openoffice-text-
> viewer/9nblggh5gpbv).
> > Is it your official application or somebody use your name as
> > Publisher
> > name and your website as OpenOffice Text Viewer website.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Juri Annikov
> >
> > Board member
> >
> > Expert Software Development OÜ
> >
> >
> >
> > +372 556 372 93
> >
> > Skype: j.annikov
> >
> > http://expsoft.eu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Spam (8.451):R: Assistence required for opening files in Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2.

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Let me be get something clear first.

You are talking about a document that was protected against writing, but not 
protected against reading, is that correct?

Or do you mean fully protected, so that they can't be used by anyone without 
presenting the password?

If these were created in Word, what version of Word was used?  (2016, 2013, 
2010, 2007, earlier?)

What format is the document saved in (.doc, .docx, .odt)?

Apache OpenOffice is not able to handle all of the different formats with which 
passwords are set on Word documents.  It will matter which version was used, 
the format, and how much is protected.

 - Dennis

PS: Do not reply directly to me. If you do, I will take it to post your message 
to the users list as I see fit and so other volunteer users can also explore 
the problem with you.

> -Original Message-
> From: babs...@libero.it [mailto:babs...@libero.it]
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 10:06
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Spam (8.451):R: Assistence required for opening files in Apache
> OpenOffice 4.1.2.
> Importance: High
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Sirs,I'm writing you because I have a problem that I cannot
> solve.While modifying protected excel files in Open Office is quite
> easy, I can't absolutely modify word documents! I can correctly see the
> text and layout, but as I try to input the password (right clic, then
> modify and then I input the pwd) OpenOffice Writer says that the pwd is
> incorrect, even if I of course know perfectly that it is correct! ( I
> tryed already with and without caps lock, if you're thinking about
> it).It is maybe impossible with OpenOffice Writer open and edit
> documents protected first in Word?I have to work on my documents but I
> can't unlock them all, because are documents of my system ISO 17025 and
> they have to be always protected, unless the operator (me) is modyfing
> something on them...how can I do? On this portable PC I'm working in
> desktop remote I don't have Microsoft word and I really don't wanna buy
> another software only for a password that can't be removed!I'm waiting
> for a kind reply from you.Best regards,Barbara Nosenzo
> 
> 



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RE: Trojan Download

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Setup-40641183 is not part of Apache OpenOffice.

Delete whatever you downloaded.

Go to .

Make sure the operating system, language, and version (4.1.2) appear.

Click "Download full installation."

On the next page, DO NOT CLICK ANYTHING on the page.  Do not click anything 
that says START DOWNLOAD or DOWNLOAD NOW.

Instead, just wait for your browser to offer you a download of 
"Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe (134MB).

Select Save at that time.  It should download and also be security scanned.

If that still causes a malware detection, let us know.

> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Wade [mailto:t...@spiti2wade.net]
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 15:08
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Trojan Download
> 
> At 5:33pm 25 Jan 2016 i downloaded 4.1.2 Win X86 from Apache OpenOffice
> 
> |   |
> |   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
> | Apache OpenOfficeApache OpenOffice download. Apache OpenOffice 2015-
> 10-25 17:32:56 free download. Apache OpenOffice The free and Open Source
> productivity suite |
> |  |
> | View on sourceforge.net | Preview by Yahoo |
> |  |
> |   |
> 
> This also came with it: Setup-40641183 which Norton 360 says is a
> trojan.  Please take care of this.
> Jim WadeA long time user and support of Open Office.


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