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Java is a special program (called a VM or a runtime) that is used by
other programs to run. It's quite similar to the .NET Framework.
Likely you
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John Boyle wrote:
To all users: I am curious as to why OpenOffice needs a new Gui? Can
someone please explain that to me, as I find it is the easiest program
to work with from opening to closing it when finished! Why on earth
change the part of the program that makes it work the best? That is
A bad idea is a bad idea. No need to burn up developer time just so we
can say told you so
Before any discussion of UIs can be productive, there have to be some
good data on UI strengths and weaknesses.
-Lars
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Lars Nooden wrote:
Mathias Bauer wrote:
I can even imagine a much simpler approach: just keep the old UI as an
option and use usage tracking to find out how many users switch to it.
Studies for the courts found in 1996 that even back then 60% kept the
default settings. By now it's close
Harold Fuchs wrote:
If you really want to enhance the UI, implement the facility where
***every*** possible option is available from the keyboard so that real
typists don't have to keep switching between it and the mouse.
As far as I'm concerned, you preach to a converted. I'm a heavy
Tommy27 wrote:
Regarding the Ribbon i had chance to try it on Office 2007 and i can tell
that it really sucks... it's context sensitivity is a pain in the ass... a
computer will never exactly anticipate what i need, it will only mess up
things to piss me off.
I agree. But context
Web Kracked wrote:
All this stuff about going to some web site other than
OOo's and fill out forms we do not have control over.
This is like washing our dirty laundry in a mud puddle.
If we, as users, do not like something that the developers
are doing, there are ways to let them know on one
Dotan Cohen wrote:
What exactly are the arguments against the Microsoft Ribbon? If we
know what the currently-perceived negative connotations of the Ribbon
design are, then the OOo Ribbon could be engineered to avoid those
pitfalls.
I think that this is more or less what I am trying to tell
Mathias Bauer wrote:
Lars Nooden wrote:
Mathias Bauer wrote:
I can even imagine a much simpler approach: just keep the old UI as an
option and use usage tracking to find out how many users switch to it.
Studies for the courts found in 1996 that even back then 60% kept the
default
Mathias Bauer wrote:
paraphrase
I say I dislike the ribbon but suggest anyway that we try copying it.
/paraphrase
You'll find that a proposal to gather data on UI usage, strengths and
weaknesses will be widely supported. Let's not spoil it by piggybacking
the let's copy the ribbon rider onto
Mathias Bauer wrote:
I think that this is more or less what I am trying to tell also. But
to avoid the Pavlovian response that the word ribbon seems to
create, I would like to use a different wording:
Again, see my point from the previous message:
Lars Nooden wrote:
Copying a failure like
Tommy27 wrote:
IMHO, Mathias Bauer's was a classic example of politician talk...
a lot of words just to confuse users...
he pretend we believe that Renaissance is not copyinf Ribbon...
that's simply ridicolous: any man with eyes on this planet sees that the
new GUI is clearly inspired to
Lars Nooden wrote:
John Boyle wrote:
To all users: I am curious as to why OpenOffice needs a new Gui? Can
someone please explain that to me, as I find it is the easiest program
to work with from opening to closing it when finished! Why on earth
change the part of the program that makes it work
Drew Jensen wrote:
Well - OpenOffice.org as you may know has been running a user survey for
the last couple of yours, at least.
During that time not hundreds and not thousands but tens of thousands of
users have responded.
In that data there are significant numbers of people that do
Lars Nooden wrote:
Drew Jensen wrote:
Well - OpenOffice.org as you may know has been running a user survey for
the last couple of yours, at least.
During that time not hundreds and not thousands but tens of thousands of
users have responded.
In that data there are significant numbers of
Drew Jensen wrote:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:IsoMetrics_Results
Thanks. That one pages does show that change is needed. Even without
study people can say that, even mono/msfters trying to hobble or cripple
the project.
However, the results do not give any
Drew Jensen wrote:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:IsoMetrics_Results
The most dissatisfaction is with Impress. Some of that may be inherent
to presentation graphics, which are soundly disliked and an infamous
time sink. Making a presentation used to take a few hours, now
2009/9/3 Drew Jensen usersl...@paintedfrogceramics.com
Lars Nooden wrote:
John Boyle wrote:
To all users: I am curious as to why OpenOffice needs a new Gui? Can
someone please explain that to me, as I find it is the easiest program
to work with from opening to closing it when finished!
Lars Nooden wrote:
Drew Jensen wrote:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:IsoMetrics_Results
The most dissatisfaction is with Impress. Some of that may be inherent
to presentation graphics, which are soundly disliked and an infamous
time sink. Making a presentation used to
Microsoft got it right (yes, really)
Sorry - I just need a minute to get up off the floor...
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Harold Fuchs wrote:
I think there are several problems here:
1. The prototype was poorly done and, apparently, premature. This is a
shame and, unfortunately has coloured peoples' judgment - including mine. I
don't have any feelings about ribbons. To be honest I'm not even sure what
the term
armatures
LOL - ok spell checkers can't always help one, can they.
They aren't amateurs either..
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How do I install the 3.1.1 DEB version of OOo on my Ubuntu system?
I get all these DEB files but how do I install them?
Seems that every one had dependancy problems. There should be
one file to install and all of the rest will be installed as well.
I am a very new Linux user and the package
Web Kracked wrote:
How do I install the 3.1.1 DEB version of OOo on my Ubuntu system?
I get all these DEB files but how do I install them?
Seems that every one had dependancy problems. There should be
one file to install and all of the rest will be installed as well.
I am a very new
John Boyle wrote:
IN GOD WE TRUST!
All others pay cash. ;-)
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Tommy27 wrote:
well said.
the double GUI (standard and Renaissance/Ribbon) would be the best solution
and would put the word end to this controversy.
however this has been asked many times in many forums and newsgroups but
many developers seemed not to like very much that idea.
i don't
Jonathan Kaye wrote:
Web Kracked wrote:
How do I install the 3.1.1 DEB version of OOo on my Ubuntu system?
I get all these DEB files but how do I install them?
Seems that every one had dependancy problems. There should be
one file to install and all of the rest will be installed as well.
Drew Jensen wrote:
armatures
LOL - ok spell checkers can't always help one, can they.
They aren't amateurs either..
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James Elliott wrote:
Since up grading to OOo 3.1 (running under Windows XP) Copy and Paste
is not working properly, in some instances.
When I copy the contents of a 'name and address' cell in a Calc
worksheet, into text box in a Draw document:
1. the first line copies across as font size
On 09/02/2009 08:31 PM, Peng Yu wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:32 PM, NoOp. wrote:
On 08/31/2009 05:25 PM, Peng Yu wrote:
Hi,
I want to install openoffice from source code on a linux machine. I
run 'configure'. But I got the following machine.
configure: error: cups/cups.h could not be
Web Kracked wrote:
How do I install the 3.1.1 DEB version of OOo on my Ubuntu system?
I get all these DEB files but how do I install them? Seems that every
one had dependancy problems. There should be one file to install and
all of the rest will be installed as well.
The easy way is to put
On 2009/09/03 4:35 AM Lars Nooden wrote:
If we have to keep Impress, then it would be useful to turn to the best
quality on the market for examples:
http://www.apple.com/iwork/keynote/
I play aroungd with Impress occasionally, but when I have real work to
do I use Keynote. Now if
I have had this program for some time. I have to admit a bit of
stupidity but I paid someone at Sun or somewhere about $44. Today I was
given the indication that there was an upgrade to OpenOffice.org 3.1.1
That was fine, but when I downloaded it went thru the motions, but then
could not
Hello Fred,
Actually I saw your first email and meant to reply - just got off on
other things and never back to it.
Let's start with this - look at the attached database. Is this about how
you have it setup?
Drew
Drew: Thanks for the above. However i didn't see any attached db. i
get
for those who still don't know, i'm promoting a petition against the OOo
Renaissance GUI.
you may sign the petition here (212 users already did it):
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/stoprenaissance/
you may also discuss the petition here:
Web Kracked wrote:
How do I install the 3.1.1 DEB version of OOo on my Ubuntu system?
I get all these DEB files but how do I install them?
Seems that every one had dependancy problems. There should be
one file to install and all of the rest will be installed as well.
I am a very new Linux
George R. Marcy wrote:
I have had this program for some time. I have to admit a bit of
stupidity but I paid someone at Sun or somewhere about $44. Today I
was given the indication that there was an upgrade to OpenOffice.org
3.1.1 That was fine, but when I downloaded it went thru the
2009/9/3 Harold Fuchs hwfa.openoff...@googlemail.com:
Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
Please stop being an idiot. There's no need to write the same
”question” or message over and over again. Just wait for people to
reply. If nobody do, well, then I guess nobody has anything to say.
Johnny Rosenberg
Rogier van Vlissingen wrote (27-8-2009 19:04)
I finally managed to solve this, by first taking out the old path and
rebooting the machine. My suspicion was that the quickloader preloads
those paths, and that that's why the old path appeared sticky to me. In
any case, it is solved now.
OK,
On 2009/09/03 1:49 PM Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
2009/9/3 Harold Fuchs hwfa.openoff...@googlemail.com:
Johnny Rosenberg,
Your messages are almost certainly not being seen by Mr. Louma as he is not
subscribed to this list.
If he's unsubscribed, maybe he doesn't want to read any answers…
I am using Open Office 3.1.1
Java version is: 1.6.0.15
I am using a PC with Vista 32
I am in the process of importing data from MS Works Database, version
8.
On August 29; Brian Barker kindly provided a written procedure to do
this.
After a little time, I got it working, and it worked well.
FamiliaFrazelle wrote:
Hello Fred,
Actually I saw your first email and meant to reply - just got off on
other things and never back to it.
Let's start with this - look at the attached database. Is this about how
you have it setup?
Drew
Drew: Thanks for the above. However i didn't see
At 13:11 03/09/2009 -0700, John Gregson wrote:
I am using Open Office 3.1.1
Java version is: 1.6.0.15
I am using a PC with Vista 32
I am in the process of importing data from MS Works Database,
version 8. On August 29; Brian Barker kindly provided a written
procedure to do this. After a
Not for the faint of heart!
I have seen no related discussions and this could very well be off topic
for this list so feel free to direct me to a more appropriate list where I
will gladly post the remainder of this message.
I have a five sheet spreadsheet. The contents of the first
Vulgarities are neither welcome nor useful on this list (IMNSHO).
--
Jim
--On Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:10:27 PM +0300 Lars Nooden
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:49:54 +0200
Came this utterance formulated by Johnny Rosenberg to my mailbox:
Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
Please stop being an idiot. There's no need to write the same
___question___ or message over and over again. Just wait for people
to reply. If nobody do, well,
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