Re: KAM_LIST3_1 FP

2021-08-23 Thread RW
On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 20:52:30 -0400 Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > I'll contact you off-list to get a spample submitted for review. He already gave one. __KAM_LIST3_1 ==> got hit: "user" __KAM_LIST3_4 ==> got hit: "contact information" __KAM_LIST3_3 ==> got hit: "direct email"

Re: TLD rules catch non-domain data

2021-08-21 Thread RW
On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 14:16:14 -0700 Kenneth Porter wrote: > On 8/20/2021 1:53 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: > > I just had it falsely hit, in that it triggered on mail that was > > ham. There was a .club URL, but it was to a club website mentioned > > in mail that I actually agreed to get and that was on

Re: Website "help" spams

2021-07-30 Thread RW
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 16:41:56 +0200 Benny Pedersen wrote: > On 2021-07-29 03:16, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > Are you running the KAM ruleset? There are some seo rules in > > there. > > is KAMOnly.pm plugin needed ?, atleast its should be documented, i > have that plugin installed now, it makes

Re: DKIM_* scores

2021-07-26 Thread RW
On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:05:35 +0100 RW wrote: > "&& !DKIM_SIGNED " means the rule can only be true if there's no > signature, so none of the terms with __DKIM_DEPENDABLE, DKIM_VALID, > and DKIM_VALID_AU make any difference. Actually it's worse than that __DKI

Re: DKIM_* scores

2021-07-26 Thread RW
On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 08:08:10 -0400 Greg Troxel wrote: > So -0.2 means that there are two dkim signatures, one for each, and > they are both valid. It could do, but usually it just means that the sender and author domains are the same. > > > BTW, looking at metas in 72_active.cf: > > > >

Re: Matching on X-Spam headers doesn't get a hit

2021-07-22 Thread RW
On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 20:09:19 +0300 Henrik K wrote: > On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 08:06:15PM +0300, Henrik K wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 05:15:54PM +0200, Martin Flygenring wrote: > > > > > > Is there a limitation to SpamAssassin so it doesn't accept > > > looking for the two X-Spam-headers,

Re: Office phish

2021-07-06 Thread RW
On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 07:58:15 + (UTC) Pedro David Marco wrote: > > > > On Monday, July 5, 2021, 11:45:42 PM GMT+2, RW > wrote: > >I'm not sure what you are referring to there. If you copy and paste a > >web page into an HTML email, are you not just copying the

Re: Office phish

2021-07-05 Thread RW
On Tue, 06 Jul 2021 00:16:00 +0200 Benny Pedersen wrote: > On 2021-07-05 23:45, RW wrote: > > >> > What legitimate email uses javascript? > >> Pretty common! many people copy and paste from webs.. and of course > >> these are important mails! :-( > >

Re: Office phish

2021-07-05 Thread RW
On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 08:01:25 + (UTC) Pedro David Marco wrote: > > >>On Thursday, July 1, 2021, 05:03:50 PM GMT+2, RW >> wrote: > > > What legitimate email uses javascript? > Pretty common! many people copy and paste from webs.. and of cour

Re: Office phish

2021-07-01 Thread RW
On Thu, 01 Jul 2021 18:40:04 +0100 Martin Gregorie wrote: > On Thu, 2021-07-01 at 18:59 +0200, Benny Pedersen wrote: > > On 2021-07-01 17:03, RW wrote: > > > > > > I realize blocking all javascript is prone to error, > > > What legitimate email uses

Re: Office phish

2021-07-01 Thread RW
On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 08:42:01 -0400 Alex wrote: > I realize blocking all javascript is prone to error, What legitimate email uses javascript?

Re: Process of domain submission for inclusion in 60_whitelist_auth.cf

2021-06-29 Thread RW
On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 11:50:46 +0100 Martin Gregorie wrote: > > On 2021-06-28 at 17:04:05 UTC-0400 (Mon, 28 Jun 2021 23:04:05 +0200) > > Robert Harnischmacher > > is rumored to have said: > > > > > In which form can one submit the subdomain of a mail sender for > > > the integration in

Re: Another evil number

2021-06-25 Thread RW
On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 05:51:24 -0700 Loren Wilton wrote: > From a fake "subscription" spam: > > You can reach out >to our Customer Support Team+1 (800) 781 - 2511. Is it common in the US to put 800 in brackets like that? In my experience brackets normally go around either country codes or

Re: Maybe it's time to revive EvilNumbers?

2021-06-16 Thread RW
On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 11:52:24 -0400 Alan wrote: > I'm already getting FPs when someone does a copy/paste of an Amazon product > page > and sends it as mail. >... >The sender's signature typically has a phone number as well, so >EvilNumbers would make things worse. Probably not. The original

Re: Recent experience with RCVD_IN_SORBS_NR_SPAM and others

2021-05-27 Thread RW
On Thu, 27 May 2021 20:40:28 -0400 Greg Troxel wrote: > The other problem on a small number of messages was RCVD_DOTEDU_SHORT. > I realize this must have passed masscheck, but getting a message of > 1-1.5 kB from an address in .edu is to me not at all suspicious, and > 2.5 points is a lot for

Re: Header exists with a dollar sign in it

2021-05-26 Thread RW
On Wed, 26 May 2021 04:11:28 -0700 Loren Wilton wrote: > You could try > > headerX_SWITCHALL=~ /^X-\$switch\b/sm Minor point, but since it's supposed to match a specific header name, it should be headerX_SWITCHALL=~ /^X-\$switch:/m

Re: spamassassin and *compressed* Maildir

2021-05-21 Thread RW
On Fri, 21 May 2021 15:41:22 -0400 Clive Jacques wrote: > I have a mail folder that I put false negatives in (i.e., spam which > ends up in my inbox) and another for false negatives (ham that ends > up in my spam folder). Each night I run sa-learn on each folder > (sa-learn will munch on entire

Re: Detect Emoticons in Subject

2021-05-21 Thread RW
On Thu, 20 May 2021 19:39:06 +0100 RW wrote: > > /\xF0\x9F(?:\x98[\x80-\xBF]|\x99[\x80-\x8F])|xF0\x9F(?:[\xA4-\xA6][\x80-\xBF]|\xA7[\x80-\xBF])|\xE2\x98[\xB9-\xBB]/ This includes the block mentioned by Bill Cole and and is simplified a bit /\xF0\x9F[\x98-\x99\xA4-\xA7\x8C-\x97][\x8

Re: Detect Emoticons in Subject: CHAOS

2021-05-20 Thread RW
On Thu, 20 May 2021 15:35:21 -0400 Jared Hall wrote: > Clive Jacques wrote: > > # Local Rule for Emoticons in subject > > subject        EMOTICON_IN_SUBJECT      Subject =~ /\p{Emoticons}/ > > The following regex will detect a good amount of Emojis: > >

Re: Detect Emoticons in Subject

2021-05-20 Thread RW
On Thu, 20 May 2021 19:26:30 +0100 RW wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 2021 18:44:43 +0100 > RW wrote: > > > On Thu, 20 May 2021 18:30:03 +0100 > > RW wrote: > > > > > > > Try this: > > > > > > > > > header EMOTICON_I

Re: Detect Emoticons in Subject

2021-05-20 Thread RW
On Thu, 20 May 2021 18:44:43 +0100 RW wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 2021 18:30:03 +0100 > RW wrote: > > > > Try this: > > > > > > header EMOTICON_IN_SUBJECT Subject =~ > > /\xF0\x9F(?:\x98[\x80-\xFF]|\x99[\x00-x8F])/ > > > > Actually that

Re: Detect Emoticons in Subject

2021-05-20 Thread RW
On Thu, 20 May 2021 18:30:03 +0100 RW wrote: > Try this: > > > header EMOTICON_IN_SUBJECT Subject =~ > /\xF0\x9F(?:\x98[\x80-\xFF]|\x99[\x00-x8F])/ > Actually that's only the original block, but it probably works most of the time

Re: Detect Emoticons in Subject

2021-05-20 Thread RW
On Thu, 20 May 2021 18:34:54 +0200 Bert Van de Poel wrote: > We've started getting lots of spam with emoji in the subject too the > past few weeks, so I've looked into this as well. As mentioned by RW, > you would need to create some kind of UTF8 regex header Subject rule. > As

Re: Detect Emoticons in Subject

2021-05-20 Thread RW
On Thu, 20 May 2021 11:42:59 -0400 Clive Jacques wrote: > Hi, > > I've been using SA a long time. Lately, I'm getting more and more > spam with emoticons in the subject line. I'd say about 90% of my > emails with emoticons in the subject are spam. I'd like to create a > local rule which

Re: txrep_autolearn range - how does the range influence autolearning

2021-05-17 Thread RW
On Mon, 17 May 2021 15:32:48 + Lucas Rolff wrote: > Even for only inbound, do you suggest disabling txrep_spf there as > well, or only particularly important for outbound? For anything TxRep treats the header "From" address as having been authenticated by an SPF pass even if the pass came

Re: txrep_autolearn range - how does the range influence autolearning

2021-05-17 Thread RW
On Sun, 16 May 2021 16:50:57 -0400 Greg Troxel wrote: > Lucas Rolff writes: > > > Thanks for the notes about sa-learn, txrep outgoing and the > > autolearn itself. In my particular case, I'll only use it as an > > inbound filter, since I handle outbound very differently (I let > > other people

Re: txrep_autolearn range - how does the range influence autolearning

2021-05-16 Thread RW
On Sun, 16 May 2021 13:36:34 -0400 Greg Troxel wrote: > > * txrep outgoing is really useful Did you find a reason why that's right? As I said before, my understanding is that it updates a reputation that only gets used on incoming mail that passes neither spf nor dkim. In other words it adds

Re: txrep_autolearn range - how does the range influence autolearning

2021-05-16 Thread RW
On Sun, 16 May 2021 15:28:43 + Lucas Rolff wrote: > Hi guys, > > I’m currently configuring a new setup for passing through all emails, > and I opted for SA as my filtering – one thing I also configured are > txrep ( > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SPAMASSASSIN/TxRep ) > > One

Re: RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI false positives

2021-05-14 Thread RW
On Thu, 13 May 2021 09:41:25 -0400 Daniel J. Luke wrote: > On May 13, 2021, at 12:14 AM, Michael B Allen > wrote: > > It is not completely trivial setup a caching name server. I > > literally have two accounts so it's at least a serious nuisance. > > It's pretty simple to install unbound and

Re: RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI false positives

2021-05-13 Thread RW
On Thu, 13 May 2021 00:11:52 +0200 Matthias Leisi wrote: > We do follow RFCs, and have a number of methods (not returning an > answer, returning REFUSED etc). But you’d be surprised how long some > admins do not act… In these cases (ie consistent query volumes way > above the limits, and

Re: RNDS_NONE misfiring on legit mail, dns timeout issues?

2021-05-12 Thread RW
On Tue, 11 May 2021 17:48:39 -0400 Greg Troxel wrote: > > So in closing, I wonder if anyone else is seeing occasional failures > in doing rDNS lookups at SMTP receive time. This is the reason I continued using the Botnet plugin which does its own lookup. My last-external received header isn't

Re: Bayes autolearn: how does it resolve whether rules are body or header related?

2021-05-10 Thread RW
On Mon, 10 May 2021 20:39:31 +0200 Bert Van de Poel wrote: > Based on what I've read, I agree that this is indeed a bug (or > actually several). I've filed the following bug reports: > https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=7904 (missing body > types, as mentioned by

Re: Bayes autolearn: how does it resolve whether rules are body or header related?

2021-05-09 Thread RW
On Sun, 9 May 2021 20:03:27 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > so you don't have points from body rules. > > your mentioned URI_DEOBFU_INSTR is a meta rule: > > meta URI_DEOBFU_INSTR __URI_DEOBFU_INSTR && !__MSGID_OK_HOST > > so maybe it's not considered. They are treated as header, or

Re: Bayes autolearn: how does it resolve whether rules are body or header related?

2021-05-09 Thread RW
On Sun, 9 May 2021 04:17:26 +0200 Bert Van de Poel wrote: > Within the same realm, I'm also wondering whether these expected > numbers for body and header can be tweaked and if so, how. You can create a meta-rule for definite spam and set: tflags autolearn_force a hit on any rule with

Re: FROMNAME and PDS_FROM_2_EMAILS

2021-05-08 Thread RW
On Sat, 8 May 2021 17:04:00 -0400 Alex wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to understand the FROMNAME rules and a potential conflict > with PDS_FROM_2_EMAILS. > > I understand FROMNAME_SPOOF is designed to catch differences like: > > From: "no-re...@amazon.com" > > but what other spoofs is the

Re: How do I search and capture text for use in a rule?

2021-05-08 Thread RW
> > >> Example pseudo code: > >> > >> my ($first_part) = $email_file =~ /^Deliver-To: (.*)/; > >> > >> body __LOCAL_AWKWARD_INTRO /hi $first_part/i > > On 08.05.21 15:02, RW wrote: > >From: RW > > > >Why would you

Re: How do I search and capture text for use in a rule?

2021-05-08 Thread RW
On Fri, 07 May 2021 10:19:49 -0400 Steve Dondley wrote: > I want to extract the first part of an email address from the > "Delivered-To" header and use it witin a custom rule. > > Example pseudo code: > > my ($first_part) = $email_file =~ /^Deliver-To: (.*)/; > > body __LOCAL_AWKWARD_INTRO

Re: Counting number of instances of a particular header

2021-05-03 Thread RW
On Mon, 03 May 2021 13:17:59 -0400 Bill Cole wrote: > On 3 May 2021, at 11:18, Dave Funk wrote: > > > > I first crafted a rule: > > header L_MY_HEADER X-My-Header !~ /^UNSET$/ [if-unset: UNSET] > > > > But that would always fire 10 times if there were any instances of > > 'X-My-Header'

Re: Counting number of instances of a particular header

2021-05-03 Thread RW
On Mon, 3 May 2021 10:18:51 -0500 (CDT) Dave Funk wrote: > I'm trying to create a rule to count the number of instances of a > particular header. ... > What am I doing wrong? How should I craft a rule to count the number > of instances of that header? It's important to understand that when

Re: My 10 years old domain have a bad TLD

2021-05-03 Thread RW
On Mon, 3 May 2021 03:43:03 -0700 Loren Wilton wrote: > > .pro have a -1 with SUSP_URI_NTLD_PRO. > > Is that really minus 1? Negative scores are good, they counteract > spammy scores, which are positive. mail-tester.com will run spamassassin on test emails. For some reason they switch the

Re: Bad entries in HOSTKARMA_W

2021-04-28 Thread RW
On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 19:42:22 -0700 (PDT) John Hardin wrote: > IIRC the Hostkarma list is fed by people pointing a backup MX DNS > host record at *their* MTAs so that they can analyze the traffic and > harvest the spammers doing "use backup MX to avoid filtering on the > primary MX". I clearly

Re: More fake order spam

2021-04-28 Thread RW
On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 18:20:08 +0200 Benny Pedersen wrote: > On 2021-04-28 16:57, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > i was curious too, and found this: > > > > tflags SYMBOLIC_TEST_NAME flags > > nice > > The test is intended to compensate for common false > >

Re: Getting "config: registryboundaries: no tlds defined, need to run sa-update" message when running mass-check

2021-04-25 Thread RW
On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 13:34:16 -0400 Steve Dondley wrote: > I’m experimenting with writing my own rules. My machines are using SA > 3.4.4 so I want to use the 3.4.4 rules. There is only one set of rules, "if" statements handle any differences.

Re: TXREP recommendation status, default status?

2021-04-25 Thread RW
On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 11:48:06 -0400 Greg Troxel wrote: > I recently went thrugh my setup and read a bunch of web pages, and > decided to try TXREP.My summary comments after a few weeks: > > It seems to be working quite well. > > Outbound processing is really useful; people I mail to get

Wrong languages file.

2021-04-25 Thread RW
I noticed that there is a languages file in /usr/local/share/spamassassin/ (DEF_RULES_DIR) installed by the SA package as well as a newer and larger version installed by sa-update. When I look at the debug it looks like the wrong one is being used: textcat: loading languages file

Re: Two different machines running same versoin of SA giving different scores for scores that are commented out

2021-04-25 Thread RW
On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 00:40:59 -0400 Steve Dondley wrote: > > On both machines, /usr/share/spasmassassin/72_active.cf has this rule > which is commented out: > This is the legacy rule directory from before sa-update existed. Have you not got another directory populated by sa-update?

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-24 Thread RW
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 13:32:09 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: addresses. > > I still think that DMARC check should be done on edge of internal > network, not anywhere behind it. It's not about that, it's about whether or not you apply it to -> -> "&& !ALL_INTERNAL" does allow the

Re: SA seems powerless against marketing emails for SEO/web development

2021-04-23 Thread RW
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 14:21:05 -0400 Steve Dondley wrote: > I'm still getting like 3 to half > dozen a day. Here's one example: https://paste.debian.net/1194735/ Apparently it already expired.

Re: Why single periods in regex in spamassassin rules?

2021-04-23 Thread RW
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 13:52:40 -0500 (CDT) David B Funk wrote: > On Fri, 23 Apr 2021, Steve Dondley wrote: > > > I'm looking at KAM.cf. There is this rule: > > > > body__KAM_WEB2 /INDIA based > > IT|indian.based.website|certified.it.company/i > > > > I'm wondering if there is a good reason

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-23 Thread RW
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 14:15:07 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > >> On 21.04.21 00:11, RW wrote: > >> >Anything that enters through through the remote trusted network > >> >and hits ALL_TRUSTED will almost certainly pass whatever > >> >authe

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-21 Thread RW
> On 21.04.21 00:11, RW wrote: > >Anything that enters through through the remote trusted network and > >hits ALL_TRUSTED will almost certainly pass whatever authentication > >mechanism are set-up for the domain. > > > >The difference between ALL_TRUSTED and ALL

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-20 Thread RW
On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 20:40:58 -0400 Bill Cole wrote: > On 19 Apr 2021, at 18:25, RW wrote: > I suggested exempting messages hitting ALL_TRUSTED from > KAM_DMARC_REJECT. > Matus noted correctly that doing so with external machines in > trusted_networks could result in "pro

Re: Spamassassin goes to folder spam

2021-04-20 Thread RW
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 01:12:18 +0200 mau...@gmx.ch wrote: > Hello > > Asking for litle help.. Doevecot and sieve are running fine.. One > thing now, if receiving mail from Users-spamassassin > > This mail will by forwarding from sieve to folder spam. I didn't see > why this will transfer there.

Re: How do you set nomail for the List?

2021-04-20 Thread RW
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:21:57 -0600 Bob Proulx wrote: > Don Saklad wrote: > > How do you set nomail for the List? > > To unsubscribe send an email message to this address. Followed by a > pre-mangled address for the web archive readers that hide email > addresses. > >

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-19 Thread RW
On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 15:54:00 -0400 Bill Cole wrote: > > It's clear to me that excluding the original message (given as an > example by the OP in a side-branch of this thread) from DMARC > verification could be done with a ALL_INTERNAL I've been a bit distracted today and I've already

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-19 Thread RW
On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:46:57 -0400 Bill Cole wrote: > On 19 Apr 2021, at 13:26, RW wrote: > > I'm not 100% sure, but I think localhost, unlike private addresses, > > is always internal/trusted. > > I don't think that is relevant to the original message at hand or

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-19 Thread RW
On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:20:37 -0400 Bill Cole wrote: > On 19 Apr 2021, at 13:03, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > >> On 19 Apr 2021, at 11:30, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > >>> I understand this as: > >>> > >>> if mail was received by internal relay unauthenticated, it's > >>> external, >

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-19 Thread RW
On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 19:03:55 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > >On 19 Apr 2021, at 11:30, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > >> I understand this as: > >> > >> if mail was received by internal relay unauthenticated, it's > >> external, > > On 19.04.21 12:49, Bill Cole wrote: > >I cannot

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-19 Thread RW
On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 09:46:48 -0400 Bill Cole wrote: > On 19 Apr 2021, at 9:26, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > >> On 19 Apr 2021, at 8:42, Simon Wilson wrote: > >>> Yes, my trusted_networks, internal_networks and msa_networks are > >>> all set correctly... I had a long discussion with this

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-19 Thread RW
On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 16:36:58 +1000 Simon Wilson wrote: > Hi list, > > - I'm running KAM rules in Spamassassin > - Postfix port 587-submitted email is sent to Amavisd (as a > content_filter) on port 10026 (tagged as ORIGINATING/MYNETS) and is > spam-checked and DKIM-signed on its way out the

Re: Spoofed amazon order email

2021-04-17 Thread RW
On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 23:49:04 -0400 Bill Cole wrote: > On 16 Apr 2021, at 11:25, Greg Troxel wrote: > > > Probably not for normals, score up MPART_ALT_DIFF because nobody > > should be sending mail with a text/plain part that is not > > semantically equivalent to the html. > > It seem like

Re: Spoofed amazon order email

2021-04-16 Thread RW
On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 11:25:19 -0400 Greg Troxel wrote: > Probably not for normals, score up MPART_ALT_DIFF because nobody > should be sending mail with a text/plain part that is not > semantically equivalent to the html. Unfortunately it's quite common.

Re: Is pyzor recommended by folks on this list?

2021-04-13 Thread RW
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 14:10:02 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > pyzor was originally razor rewritten in python, but now uses own > servers, with the same intention AFAIK. It's not just a matter of servers they do very different things. Pyzor hashes selected lines from a preprocessed version

Re: sa-learn, TXREP, network queries, documentation

2021-04-12 Thread RW
On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 09:40:47 -0400 Greg Troxel wrote: > 3) sa-learn does not document that it is no longer for BAYES, but a > general interface to mechanisms that learn. It always was in theory. > 4) There is a bonus of txrep_learn_penalty for learning spam, > default 20. If the

Re: Is pyzor recommended by folks on this list?

2021-04-11 Thread RW
On Sun, 11 Apr 2021 16:57:54 -0400 Steve Dondley wrote: > >> Second, I'm not sure if my tests will work on my spam samples which > >> have the spam encapsulated with the "report_safe" setting set to a > >> value of "1". > > > > I wouldn't expect it to work at all. "report_safe" encapsulation >

Re: Is pyzor recommended by folks on this list?

2021-04-11 Thread RW
On Sun, 11 Apr 2021 10:04:03 -0400 Steve Dondley wrote: > On 2021-04-11 09:34 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote: > > On 2021-04-11 15:13, Steve Dondley wrote: > > > >> What do you think? > > > > pyzor is usefull if running pyzord localy, design of pyzor was imho > > ment to be local pyzord and have

Re: Is pyzor recommended by folks on this list?

2021-04-11 Thread RW
On Sun, 11 Apr 2021 09:13:26 -0400 Steve Dondley wrote: > Second, I'm not sure if my tests will work on my spam samples which > have the spam encapsulated with the "report_safe" setting set to a > value of "1". I wouldn't expect it to work at all. "report_safe" encapsulation creates a new

Re: learning news from Spamassassin ?

2021-04-10 Thread RW
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 13:23:01 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 10.04.21 08:58, mau...@gmx.ch wrote: > >my spamassassin book are coming from 2004, and possible this arnt > >relay up2date. > > should be 90% fine. I didn't know there was a book but I looked it up "Configure SpamAssassin

Re: OT: is sorbs.net sleeping ?

2021-04-10 Thread RW
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:44:54 +0200 Benny Pedersen wrote: > dont use public dns servers ever, free or not > It's not about using public caches. They are going to block look-ups from generic rDNS as well. I think they are already blocking some VPS address blocks.

Re: OT: is sorbs.net sleeping ?

2021-04-10 Thread RW
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 08:56:19 -0400 Rob McEwen wrote: > On 4/10/2021 6:55 AM, Jared Hall wrote: > > Rob, I gotta say that I am impressed with the whole Spamhaus-dqs > > program and their use of customer keyed DNS zone queries.  Seems to > > be the way around the client DNS forwarder issues.  How

Re: DNSWL overriding bayes_99 and bayes_999 rules

2021-04-06 Thread RW
On Tue, 06 Apr 2021 12:03:52 -0400 Greg Troxel wrote: > You can and probably should report spam to dnswl. In theory HI should > have essentially no spam. I thought that because I've never received a single spam with it, but in mass checks it's at 0.23% of spam.

Re: "Please send us a quote..."?

2021-04-06 Thread RW
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 18:30:31 -0700 (PDT) John Hardin wrote: > Can anybody explain to me the reason behind the blind "please send us > a quote for your product X" emails? I mean, I know they are > somehow a scam, but I can't figure it out how it's supposed to work > when the target isn't a

Re: Problem installing sa on my pi 3b+

2021-04-06 Thread RW
On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 03:29:12 +0200 Christian Tasler wrote: > Ok, maybe I'll need more than just a hint as I understood mostly > nothing. I am running said packet install from an internet tutorial. > I cannot do anything between issuing that command and the printout of > the error. So how am I

Re: Problem installing sa on my pi 3b+

2021-04-05 Thread RW
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 02:27:46 +0200 spamassas...@mach2.franken.de wrote: > Hi there, > > when running a 'sudo apt-get install spamassassin' on my raspian pi > 3b+ i keep running into a problem with sa-compile: > ... > Can anyone give me a hint what to do? Using compiled rules is not essential,

Re: google.com spam

2021-04-04 Thread RW
;> I prefer to solve problems instead of playing with scores. > >> > >> It seems that abusers have worked around SA by using google domains > >> and addresses for sending spam from. > > On 04.04.21 14:19, RW wrote: > >If google have been foolish enough t

Re: google.com spam

2021-04-04 Thread RW
On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 13:21:08 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 04.04.21 13:09, Benny Pedersen wrote: > >change score to 7.5 > >change score to -3.5 > > I prefer to solve problems instead of playing with scores. > > It seems that abusers have worked around SA by using google domains >

Re: URI_TRY_3LD FP on mynews.apple.com

2021-04-02 Thread RW
On Fri, 02 Apr 2021 12:12:22 -0400 Adam Katz wrote: > Hey, John et al. It's been a while. I hope things are going well. > > I've found an FP on URI_TRY_3LD from > https://mynews.apple.com/subscriptions?… that you could solve by > adding a new alternation to the relevant negative lookahead in

Re: SA DKIM check

2021-04-02 Thread RW
On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 13:22:47 +0200 Giovanni Bechis wrote: > On 4/1/21 3:10 PM, Simon Wilson wrote: > > Does SA always do its "own" DKIM check, or can it be told to use an > > already written trusted AuthservId-written Authentication-Results > > header, e.g. from OpenDKIM? > I think

Re: Optimising DNS-based checks

2021-03-30 Thread RW
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 14:16:16 +0100 RW wrote: > by having multiple spamd processes per cpu That should have been "per cpu core". > Most DNS look-ups run in parallel with the regex rules. In 4.0/trunk > that also applies to Pyzor, Razor, and DCC. > > If you have

Re: Optimising DNS-based checks

2021-03-30 Thread RW
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 11:45:57 +1000 Simon Wilson wrote: > Hi list, > > I've extracted below the top lines of timing for my SA checks on > emails, and am wondering if these are along the lines of general > expectations and performance with some of the DNS-based checks? You can work around the

Re: dkim super keysize

2021-03-29 Thread RW
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 17:50:00 +0200 Benny Pedersen wrote: > ifplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::DKIM > > dkim_minimum_key_bits 2048 > > metaDKIM_SUPER_KEYSIZE (DKIM_SIGNED && DKIM_VALID_AU && > DKIM_VALID_EF) > describeDKIM_SUPER_KEYSIZE Meta: DKIM_SIGNED && >

Re: Why no points for SPF_NONE?

2021-03-21 Thread RW
On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 11:34:09 -0400 Greg Troxel wrote: > Steve Dondley writes: > > > I'm learning a bit about spamassassin rules and taking a peek at how > > my inbound mail is scored. I noticed that PF_NONE scores zero points > > by default. I'm wondering if there is a good reason for not

Re: No rule for fake payPal messages?

2021-03-20 Thread RW
On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 11:11:03 -0400 Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > Would be worth looking at how it got through. Perhaps badly trained > Bayesian learning, for example? If it's done well it can look like a hybrid of a real paypal email and a routine gmail email and Bayes isn't capable of spotting

Re: AWL on 3.4

2021-03-20 Thread RW
On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 00:36:05 +1000 Simon Wilson wrote: > I've just migrated and updated to SA 3.4, and have moved the Bayes db > to Redis. I used to use AWL but don't think the module is loaded in > 3.4, am I correct? It's just a matter of uncommenting the line in v310.pre I don't think it

Re: Workflow for adding new ham/spam to existing site-wide database?

2021-03-18 Thread RW
fine. It > >> also reduces the incidence of tokens from somewhat rarer mail > >> automatically expiring out of Bayes, leading to FPs and FNs. > > On 17.03.21 22:01, RW wrote: > >It wont do that by default. You would need to have something removing > >

Re: Workflow for adding new ham/spam to existing site-wide database?

2021-03-17 Thread RW
On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 10:42:14 -0400 Kris Deugau wrote: > My own experience has been that accumulating blobs of ham/spam and > just repeatedly running sa-learn over those works just fine. It also > reduces the incidence of tokens from somewhat rarer mail > automatically expiring out of Bayes,

Re: Workflow for adding new ham/spam to existing site-wide database?

2021-03-16 Thread RW
On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 15:33:58 -0400 Steve Dondley wrote: > You covered a lot of ground here. Thanks.. If you have some spare > cycles, I have follow up questions to get an understanding of how you > process your email: > I presume this is a reply to Harold, in which case I would take it with a

Re: Workflow for adding new ham/spam to existing site-wide database?

2021-03-16 Thread RW
On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 13:16:49 -0400 Steve Dondley wrote: > I have been accumulating spam/ham samples and sorting them out into > different directories on my server. As new spam/ham comes in, I throw > it into the existing pile and then run "sa-learn --spam|--ham" on the > whole pile. > > It

Re: How do I determine if user's email is being checked against the side-wide database?

2021-03-13 Thread RW
On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 09:22:53 -0800 (PST) John Hardin wrote: > I'm not sure offhand if BAYES_50 hits when bayes is enabled but > insufficiently trained... It doesn't.

Re: Training spamassassin past 5,000 emails

2021-03-09 Thread RW
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 08:52:28 -0500 Steve Dondley wrote: > On 2021-03-09 08:42 AM, RW wrote: > > > > If you keep a full archive of what's been trained. I think it makes > > sense to trim out old mail occasionally and recreate the database - > > particularly

Re: Training spamassassin past 5,000 emails

2021-03-09 Thread RW
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 07:49:38 -0500 Steve Dondley wrote: > I've read through > https://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.1.x/doc/sa-learn.html which > states that "anything over about 5000 messages does not improve > accuracy significantly in our tests." > > So once I hit 5,000, what do? Do I run

Re: docusign changes

2021-02-28 Thread RW
On Sun, 28 Feb 2021 14:17:08 -0500 Alex wrote: > Hi, > > I have a number of rules that checks for the existence of legitimate > docusign links and general weirdness (like the lack of a legitimate To > address or to undisc-recips), but it doesn't work for this legitimate > docusign email: > >

Re: AskDNS with a DNAME

2021-02-28 Thread RW
On Sun, 28 Feb 2021 10:33:15 -0500 Michael Grant wrote: > On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 03:53:33PM +0100, Giovanni Bechis wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 07:38:22AM -0500, Michael Grant wrote: > > > Ultimately I want the spamassassin report in the headers but I > > > don't want the license key in

Re: AskDNS with a DNAME

2021-02-28 Thread RW
On Sun, 28 Feb 2021 07:42:42 -0800 (PST) John Hardin wrote: > On Sun, 28 Feb 2021, Michael Grant wrote: > > > I've traced through the AskDNS plugin and it's definitely only > > looking at the first response that gets returned in this case. I > > also tried a regex submatch like: > > > > askdns

Re: Rules for a recent flood of BTC/webcam spam

2021-02-25 Thread RW
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 12:13:59 -0500 Alan wrote: > Bitcoin addresses start with either 1 or 3. Most do, but around 13% of those reported to the bitcoin abuse database are in the format starting with "bc". > It's less general specifically to avoid FPs. Personally I'm weighting > this pretty high

Re: Rules for a recent flood of BTC/webcam spam

2021-02-25 Thread RW
On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 18:37:42 -0800 (PST) John Hardin wrote: > On Wed, 24 Feb 2021, Alan wrote: > > > After a little more research, a better regex for an obfuscated BTC > > address is > > > > /[13][ \-]([a-km-zA-HJ-NP-Z0-9][ \-]){25,32}[a-km-zA-HJ-NP-Z0-9]/ > > > > It might be worth adding = and

Re: Trouble with XM_RANDOM rule

2021-02-24 Thread RW
On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 08:10:48 -0700 lbutlr wrote: > On 24 Feb 2021, at 7:10, Alessio Cecchi wrote: > > > that match "X-Mailer =~ /q(?!q?mail|\d|[-\w]*=+;)[^u]/i" > > > > Is "Qboxmail" the problem? > > Yes. > > Since this is the name of our company are there any chances to keep > > it without

Re: X-Originating-IP a received header?

2021-02-23 Thread RW
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 13:41:58 -0800 (PST) John Hardin wrote: > On Tue, 23 Feb 2021, Dan Malm wrote: > > > On 2021-02-23 16:29, John Hardin wrote: > >> On Tue, 23 Feb 2021, Dan Malm wrote: > >>> Received: from onecom-webmail1 (service.pub.appspod1-cph3.one.com > >>> [ ]) > >>> by mailrelay3

Re: Catch subtly-different Reply-To domain

2021-02-22 Thread RW
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 16:32:01 -0800 (PST) John Hardin wrote: > On Sun, 21 Feb 2021, John Hardin wrote: > > > On Sun, 21 Feb 2021, Dominic Raferd wrote: > >> Michael's suggestion is interesting. There is a github project > >> allowing Levenshtein numbers to be calculated and used in SA, I > >>

Re: Catch subtly-different Reply-To domain

2021-02-21 Thread RW
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 17:00:32 + Dominic Raferd wrote: > On 21/02/2021 16:20, Benny Pedersen wrote: > > On 2021-02-21 17:00, RW wrote: > >> On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 14:04:20 + > >> Dominic Raferd wrote: > >> > >>> On 21/02/2021 13:56,

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