Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 12.11.09 13:55, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: I don't know about Linux viruses; BUT, I do remember less than ten years ago when it was virtually impossible to build a Linux box with a hot online connection, because you would get hacked before you could even download the patches. I had a

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-13 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 09:12 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 12.11.09 13:55, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: I don't know about Linux viruses; BUT, I do remember less than ten years ago when it was virtually impossible to build a Linux box with a hot online connection, because you would

Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist

2009-11-13 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 10:58 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 09:12 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 12.11.09 13:55, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: I don't know about Linux viruses; BUT, I do remember less than ten years ago when it was virtually

Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist

2009-11-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Since I didn't clearly write the part you are reacting on, it would be nice from you to remove my name from the begin, as you removed the rest of e-mail. On 13.11.09 10:24, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: Matus has emailed me *off list* and asked me to point out that there is an error in

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-13 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 09:12 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 12.11.09 13:55, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: I don't know about Linux viruses; BUT, I do remember less than ten years ago when it was virtually impossible to build a Linux box with a hot

Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist

2009-11-13 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 11:40 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Am I the only one who thints that issues clearly off-topic should be sent off-list? Your response was to correct an onlist reply to an onlist remark. Is there some reason why you would feel it appropriate to off-list that?

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-13 Thread hamann . w
Caveats such as week passwords, open ports and advertising insecure services are the domain of poor administration and understanding - they are not Operating System dependent. Exempting organised spam gangs and their infrastructure, it's probably fair to say that most of the spam I

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
On fre 13 nov 2009 18:26:07 CET, wrote One admin admitted that they were hacked through login guest / pass guest and this is a real hack :) -- xpoint

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-13 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 17:26 +, haman...@t-online.de wrote: I've only used Red Hat flavours of Linux since RH 6.2 so I can't speak for other distros, but here's my experience. Where IPs looked like machines in a computer center, I occasionally had a closer look and found newly created

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-12 Thread Michael Scheidell
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: Dream on. Obviously your a pro-Windows person and anti-Linux person and you cannot tolerate your image of Windows being torn down. I seriously doubt Giampaolo is 'pro-windows', and your argument started with me, thinking that somehow I was

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
LuKreme wrote: On 11-Nov-2009, at 18:34, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I will point out that MacOS 7, os* os9 were HIGHLY virus-prone, yet there were far fewer of them than OSX today. Er… that is simply not true. Not in anyway. As I recall, there were a total of 31 viruses for System 7 and one

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-12 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: LuKreme wrote: On 11-Nov-2009, at 18:34, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I will point out that MacOS 7, os* os9 were HIGHLY virus-prone, yet there were far fewer of them than OSX today. Er… that is simply not true. Not in anyway. As I recall, there were a total of 31

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Chris Hoogendyk wrote: Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: LuKreme wrote: On 11-Nov-2009, at 18:34, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I will point out that MacOS 7, os* os9 were HIGHLY virus-prone, yet there were far fewer of them than OSX today. Er… that is simply not true. Not in anyway. As I recall, there

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-12 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Chris Hoogendyk wrote: I also heard stories of my son doing battle with hackers who had gotten into his Linux system. Keep in mind that those were not the Linus-written Linux programs, those were programs like Telnet, Sendmail, etc. which

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Michael Scheidell wrote: Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: Dream on. Obviously your a pro-Windows person and anti-Linux person and you cannot tolerate your image of Windows being torn down. I seriously doubt Giampaolo is 'pro-windows', and your argument started with me,

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Chris Hoogendyk wrote: I also heard stories of my son doing battle with hackers who had gotten into his Linux system. Keep in mind that those were not the Linus-written Linux programs, those were programs like Telnet,

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-12 Thread Michael Scheidell
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: PS, if your really the SA porter, thanks for your effort! easy enough to verify: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=scheidellstype=maintainer -- Michael Scheidell, CTO Phone: 561-999-5000, x 1259 *| *SECNAP Network Security Corporation * Certified

RE: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-11 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
Michael Scheidell wrote: ...omissis... If our clients were DELIBERATELY spamming, say they thought they were going to send out a marketing mail or some such, then you would be correct. But they were not. They were simply using the largest software company on Earth's products -

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-11 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: Michael Scheidell wrote: ...omissis... If our clients were DELIBERATELY spamming, say they thought they were going to send out a marketing mail or some such, then you would be correct. But they were not. They were simply using the largest software company on

Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-11 Thread LuKreme
On 11-Nov-2009, at 18:34, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I will point out that MacOS 7, os* os9 were HIGHLY virus-prone, yet there were far fewer of them than OSX today. Er… that is simply not true. Not in anyway. As I recall, there were a total of 31 viruses for System 7 and one CD-ROM worm for

Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist

2009-11-10 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 16:51 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Hi All, We have a customer who had a compromised mailserver, they fixed the server but are apparently still blacklisted by this company called CloudMark (www.cloudmark.com) that Comcast uses. In Googling around I see that

Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist

2009-11-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 16:51 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Hi All, We have a customer who had a compromised mailserver, they fixed the server but are apparently still blacklisted by this company called CloudMark (www.cloudmark.com) that Comcast uses. In

Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist

2009-11-10 Thread Michael Scheidell
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: How can I? From what I know about razor-revoke, it's the recipients who are using razor and who get messages that razor tags as spam who are the ones that run this. Their recipients who are saying that their messages are being marked spam are comcast e-mail users. We

RE: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist

2009-11-10 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
Daniel J McDonald wrote: ...omissis... How can I? From what I know about razor-revoke, it's the recipients who are using razor and who get messages that razor tags as spam who are the ones that run this. Their recipients who are saying that their messages are being marked spam are

Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist

2009-11-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: Daniel J McDonald wrote: ...omissis... How can I? From what I know about razor-revoke, it's the recipients who are using razor and who get messages that razor tags as spam who are the ones that run this. Their recipients who are saying that their messages are being

Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist

2009-11-10 Thread Jared Hall
Oh, come now; like calling Comcast is going to get you anywhere. Per: http://www.spamresource.com/2009/10/top-five-tips-for-dealing-with.html I've had success with Comcast. Been good to me. Generic Abuse: http://postmaster.comcast.net/ Personally, I'd fill out Comcast's form at:

Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist

2009-11-10 Thread LuKreme
On 10-Nov-2009, at 08:48, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I would presume, knowing Comcast, and knowing the average ability of the typical Comcast e-mail user, that the razor-report and rezor-revoke is being done silently, automatically, behind the scenes. Perhaps when a user pulls a message out of

[Fwd: Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist]

2009-11-10 Thread Michael Scheidell
if I reply to the mailing list and not you directly, you should reply to the mailing list. Original Message Subject:Re: Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:25:20 -0800 From: Ted Mittelstaedt t...@ipinc.net Organization

Getting off the Cloudmark formerly spamnet blacklist

2009-11-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Hi All, We have a customer who had a compromised mailserver, they fixed the server but are apparently still blacklisted by this company called CloudMark (www.cloudmark.com) that Comcast uses. In Googling around I see that Comcast just recently signed up this company a month ago. This