Re: Tomcat and MySQL in Azure Cloud

2010-07-17 Thread Pid


On 17 Jul 2010, at 03:12, Praveen Sripati praveensrip...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the reply.
 
 1. The primary advantage of the cloud is scalability. We can increase
 servers from 1 to 100 within minutes based on the load. So, initially the
 JDBC URL might have 1 IP and it should be updated to have 100 IPs. So, the
 JDBC URL has to updated dynamically with the number of MySQL instances. Not
 sure if Azure provides a resolvable name, even if it does the JDBC URL has
 to be updated dynamically to reflect all the names of the new MySQL
 instances.

You are missing the point. Stop fixating on the db URL, you will not be able to 
dynamically update it, you will not be able to dynamically recreate a DBCP 
datasource.  

Even if you could this would be a really BAD strategy as it would mean each 
Tomcat would have to pause and wait for all requests to stop processing before 
each db pool is refreshed. 

The pool refresh operation could take a whole minute, if your clients are on a 
slow network connection. The Tomcat instance would be unavailable for the whole 
period.

You would need to write your own DataSource factory to do such a thing, which I 
wouldn't recommend.

Have you load tested your app, how do you know that your proposed strategy will 
solve your problem?

Do you not need more Tomcat instances too?


p 



 
 On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Pid p...@pidster.com wrote:
 
 On 16 Jul 2010, at 15:56, Praveen Sripati praveensrip...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 We are in the process of migrating Tomcat and MySQL to Microsoft Azure
 Cloud
 and facing challenges due to the dynamic nature of the cloud like
 allocation
 of dynamic ip and ports to the instances of Tomcat  MySQL in Azure.
 Because
 of this behavior Tomcat needs to
 
 1) Dynamically update the ip and ports of the different MySQL instances
 in
 the JDBC URL (
 
 http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/connector-j-reference-replication-connection.html
 ).
 Suppose the following is the JDBC URL, then it has to be updated in
 Tomcat
 at run-time when a new instance of MySQL is bought up or an instance of
 MySQL is bought down.
 
 So don't put the IP address in there, put a resolvable name instead and
 dynamically update that - which is a more conventional way of doing things.
 
 url=jdbc:mysql:replication://127.0.0.1:5104,127.0.0.1:5108,
 127.0.0.1:5112,
 127.0.0.1:5116,127.0.0.1:5116/itops
 
 2) We are using DBCP (http://commons.apache.org/dbcp/) for connection
 pooling. Similarly when a new instance of MySQL is bought up or an
 instance
 of MySQL is bought down the pool has to be updated dynamically
 accordingly
 at run-time.
 
 While apps are using the pool? Good luck with that.
 
 You'd be better off pooling the DB and having something work out where to
 route the db pool connections and just point DBCP at that.
 
 
 p
 
 Has anyone come across a solution for these problems while deploying
 Tomcat
 and MySQL in Cloud?
 
 Thanks,
 Praveen
 
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Is it possible to disable caching/force reloading of JNDI resources?

2010-07-17 Thread Marco Ehrentreich
Hi guys,

I'm stuck with a JNDI resource object factory problem. Hopefully you can
help me out with this issue.

My idea was to provide multiple web applications running inside a Tomcat
instance with configuration properties from config files located outside
the WAR file of the applications. I'm currently trying to provide
these configuration properties with a global naming resource (defined
inside the server.xml) which is consumed by the said applications to
keep the configuration container independent and to avoid direct file
access from a web application.

So far almost everything already works perfectly! Except that Tomcat
obviously caches resources which are looked up via JNDI. This way I have
to restart Tomcat every time the external config files changes because
the web applications never access my ObjectFactory again after Tomcat
has cached the result of the ObjectFactory.

Accordingly to the documentation an implementation of ObjectFactory
should be accessed each time a web application looks it up with its JNDI
key. But that's definitely not the case here.

Any ideas or thoughts on this issue? Is there any way to disable this
behavior of Tomcat's JNDI resource management?
Or any comments on this plan to externalize the application
configuration in general?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: tomcat 7: IllegalArgumentException: taglib definition not consistent with specification version

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Thomas
On 16/07/2010 18:23, Edoardo Panfili wrote:
 Hy,
 
 I did I try with tomcat 7 uploading my application (that works fine with
 6.0.26). the application does not starts up and I can see

The tag lib element is not correct. It should be:

taglib xmlns=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee;
  xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance;
  xsi:schemaLocation=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee
  http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/web-jsptaglibrary_2_1.xsd;
  version=2.1

Note the difference in the xsi:schemaLocation

Mark


 
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 16-lug-2010 19.15.15 org.apache.catalina.startup.ContextConfig parseWebXml
 GRAVE: Parse error in application web.xml file at
 jndi:/localhost/application/WEB-INF/web.xml
 java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: taglib definition not consistent
 with specification version
 --
 
 the start of taglib.tld is
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 taglib xmlns=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/j2ee;
 xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance;
 xsi:schemaLocation=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/web-jsptaglibrary_2_1.xsd;
 
 version=2.1
 
 
 and the start of web.xml is
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 web-app  xmlns=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/j2ee;
 xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance;
 xsi:schemaLocation=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/j2ee
 http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/j2ee/web-app_2_5.xsd; version=2.5
 
 
 I did some try but none usefull (nothing also on goole).
 Can I use taglib 2.1 with servlet 2.5? Where can I find this kind of
 informations?
 
 thank you
 Edoardo
 
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Re: how to embed tomcat 7

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Thomas
On 16/07/2010 22:09, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
 From: Ikonne, Ike [mailto:ike_iko...@stercomm.com]
 Subject: how to embed tomcat 7

 can someone point to me on how I could go about embedding 
 Tomcat into my application.
 
 I don't think anyone has properly documented how to do this, but the first 
 set of APIs you need are here:
 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/api/org/apache/catalina/startup/Tomcat.html

And take a look at the unit tests in Tomcat 7 for numerous examples.

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Re: Is it possible to disable caching/force reloading of JNDI resources?

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Thomas
On 17/07/2010 09:50, Marco Ehrentreich wrote:
 Accordingly to the documentation an implementation of ObjectFactory
 should be accessed each time a web application looks it up with its JNDI
 key. But that's definitely not the case here.

What documentation?

Mark



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Re: Tomcat7 HTTPS APR Performance

2010-07-17 Thread Mladen Turk

On 07/16/2010 09:08 AM, shivanic wrote:


Hello,

For comparing performance of Apache Tomcat 7 with APR and Jboss Web Server
with APR version 2.1.4 with Tomcat 7   we have done a load test of an app.


Your results only show that you have used load testing wrongly.
Hitting the server with the simple DoS tool won't give you
any relevant relevant info unless you are hitting the
web application that has constant response timeout (a bit oxymoron).

Such web applications are for example Default servlet, which
won't also give you the correct results, cause depending on the
file size APR might choose to serve that via OS sendfile, in
which case OS might cache that resource and give you the faulty
sense of speed. Also the JVM might have it's own logic for GC
(easily observable by multiple runs)

However if your web application access the external resource
(database or something) that has variable response time, all
you get as result of testing is the state of that resource
availability at the time test was run, not the performance
characteristics of the application server.

Just to prove my point, use your current test for any of
the application servers you've tested so far, and repeat the
same test with some random time between test runs, then
do the same thing each time restarting the app server, and
cleaning up the log files, and you'll see that numbers
simply make no sense :)


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Re: Is it possible to disable caching/force reloading of JNDI resources?

2010-07-17 Thread Marco Ehrentreich
Am 17.07.2010 12:56, schrieb Mark Thomas:
 On 17/07/2010 09:50, Marco Ehrentreich wrote:
 Accordingly to the documentation an implementation of ObjectFactory
 should be accessed each time a web application looks it up with its JNDI
 key. But that's definitely not the case here.
 
 What documentation?
 
 Mark
 
Sorry, I'll try to find the said documentation again. I think it was
something from the original Tomcat documentation but I can't find it at
the moment.

Maybe I missunderstood it but at least it didn't mention that the result
of an ObjectFactory is only produced once and then cached by Tomcat.

Can you tell me some more details about this issue? Or would you
recommend a completely different approach?

Marco

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Re: tomcat 7: IllegalArgumentException: taglib definition not consistent with specification version

2010-07-17 Thread Edoardo Panfili

On 17/07/10 12.50, Mark Thomas wrote:

On 16/07/2010 18:23, Edoardo Panfili wrote:

Hy,

I did I try with tomcat 7 uploading my application (that works fine with
6.0.26). the application does not starts up and I can see


The tag lib element is not correct. It should be:

taglib xmlns=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee;
   xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance;
   xsi:schemaLocation=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee
   http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/web-jsptaglibrary_2_1.xsd;
   version=2.1

Note the difference in the xsi:schemaLocation


I changed the element but it raises the same error.
After that I removed the whole taglib element, now the file is 
incorrect I know, but the exception is still there, with another one he 
markup in the document following the root element must be well-formed. 
the second is comprensible for me. Is it possible that the error is in 
another file?


Edoardo




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16-lug-2010 19.15.15 org.apache.catalina.startup.ContextConfig parseWebXml
GRAVE: Parse error in application web.xml file at
jndi:/localhost/application/WEB-INF/web.xml
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: taglib definition not consistent
with specification version
--

the start of taglib.tld is

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
taglib xmlns=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/j2ee;
xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance;
xsi:schemaLocation=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/web-jsptaglibrary_2_1.xsd;

version=2.1


and the start of web.xml is

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
web-app  xmlns=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/j2ee;
xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance;
xsi:schemaLocation=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/j2ee
http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/j2ee/web-app_2_5.xsd; version=2.5


I did some try but none usefull (nothing also on goole).
Can I use taglib 2.1 with servlet 2.5? Where can I find this kind of
informations?

thank you
Edoardo

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Re: tomcat 7: IllegalArgumentException: taglib definition not consistent with specification version

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Thomas
On 17/07/2010 14:16, Edoardo Panfili wrote:
 On 17/07/10 12.50, Mark Thomas wrote:
 The tag lib element is not correct. It should be:

 taglib xmlns=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee;
xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance;
xsi:schemaLocation=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee
http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/web-jsptaglibrary_2_1.xsd;
version=2.1

 Note the difference in the xsi:schemaLocation
 
 I changed the element but it raises the same error.

OK. At least that is one possible issue fixed.

How are you defining you taglibs in web.xml? Are you using:

tablib
 ...
/taglib

or

jsp-config
  tablib
   ...
  /taglib
/jsp-config?

?

 After that I removed the whole taglib element, now the file is
 incorrect I know, but the exception is still there, with another one he
 markup in the document following the root element must be well-formed.
 the second is comprensible for me. Is it possible that the error is in
 another file?

No. Looks like you removed the tablib ... element but left the /taglib.

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Re: tomcat 7: IllegalArgumentException: taglib definition not consistent with specification version

2010-07-17 Thread Edoardo Panfili

On 17/07/10 15.57, Mark Thomas wrote:

On 17/07/2010 14:16, Edoardo Panfili wrote:

On 17/07/10 12.50, Mark Thomas wrote:

The tag lib element is not correct. It should be:

taglib xmlns=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee;
xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance;
xsi:schemaLocation=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee
http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/web-jsptaglibrary_2_1.xsd;
version=2.1

Note the difference in the xsi:schemaLocation


I changed the element but it raises the same error.


OK. At least that is one possible issue fixed.

How are you defining you taglibs in web.xml? Are you using:

tablib
  ...
/taglib

this one



jsp-config
   tablib
...
   /taglib
/jsp-config?

but this one works! also with the wrong schemaLocation.
Without your help I can't figure the meaning of the exception. Is Tomcat 
supposing a specification version using the presence/absence of this tag?

thank you.



After that I removed the wholetaglib  element, now the file is
incorrect I know, but the exception is still there, with another one he
markup in the document following the root element must be well-formed.
the second is comprensible for me. Is it possible that the error is in
another file?


No. Looks like you removed thetablib ...  element but left the/taglib.

yes. I was only I try (removing the element the error remains, it was 
possible that the error was not there).


Thank you again
Edoardo

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Re: tomcat 7: IllegalArgumentException: taglib definition not consistent with specification version

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Thomas
On 17/07/2010 15:21, Edoardo Panfili wrote:
 On 17/07/10 15.57, Mark Thomas wrote:
 On 17/07/2010 14:16, Edoardo Panfili wrote:
 On 17/07/10 12.50, Mark Thomas wrote:
 The tag lib element is not correct. It should be:

 taglib xmlns=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee;
 xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance;
 xsi:schemaLocation=http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee
 http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/web-jsptaglibrary_2_1.xsd;
 version=2.1

 Note the difference in the xsi:schemaLocation

 I changed the element but it raises the same error.

 OK. At least that is one possible issue fixed.

 How are you defining you taglibs in web.xml? Are you using:

 tablib
   ...
 /taglib
 this one
 
 
 jsp-config
tablib
 ...
/taglib
 /jsp-config?
 but this one works! also with the wrong schemaLocation.
 Without your help I can't figure the meaning of the exception. Is Tomcat
 supposing a specification version using the presence/absence of this tag?
 thank you.

No. Tomcat 7 is requiring that if you declare your web application to be
using version 2.5 of the Servlet specification that you declare your tag
libraries as required by schema for that version of the spec. You were
trying to use an old way old defining tag libraries from an older (2.3?)
version of the spec.

Mark



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tomcat access logs

2010-07-17 Thread Johan Martinez
Hi,

How do we configure access logs for tomcat so that we get details similar to
apache-httpd server? e.g. I would like to view (HTTP) request type , IP
address etc. in my logs. Any suggestions or resources on how to configure
it?

Thanks,
jM.


Re: tomcat access logs

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Thomas
On 17/07/2010 22:24, Johan Martinez wrote:
 Hi,
 
 How do we configure access logs for tomcat so that we get details similar to
 apache-httpd server? e.g. I would like to view (HTTP) request type , IP
 address etc. in my logs. Any suggestions or resources on how to configure
 it?

http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/valve.html#Access_Log_Valve

Mark



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Re: tomcat access logs

2010-07-17 Thread Johan Martinez
Thanks a lot...

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jM.



On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org wrote:

 On 17/07/2010 22:24, Johan Martinez wrote:
  Hi,
 
  How do we configure access logs for tomcat so that we get details similar
 to
  apache-httpd server? e.g. I would like to view (HTTP) request type , IP
  address etc. in my logs. Any suggestions or resources on how to configure
  it?

 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/valve.html#Access_Log_Valve

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IP based request filters for admin/manager

2010-07-17 Thread Johan Martinez
I was wondering how to configure Request Filters to allow access to admin,
manager, status-report, etc... I followed tomcat doc:
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/context.html#Request_Filters
and I was able to restrict access by specifying webapp names, e.g.:
[[[
Context path=/manager 
Valve
className=org.apache.catalina.valves.RemoteAddrValve
allow=127.0.0.1 deny=/
/Context
]]]

How can I deny access to default welcome/index page, changelog,
release-notes etc.?

I know just restricting access to default welcome/index page does not
restrict access to manager or admin links on that page. Still, I would like
to restrict access to welcome/index page in addition to admin/manager
webapps. I have tried / and /ROOT and it didn't work.

Any help or suggestions?

Thanks,
jM.


Re: IP based request filters for admin/manager

2010-07-17 Thread Johan Martinez
The first line should have been:
I was wondering how to configure Request Filters to s/allow/RESTRICT/ access
to admin, manager, status-report, etc.. :)

jM.


On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Johan Martinez jmart...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was wondering how to configure Request Filters to allow access to admin,
 manager, status-report, etc... I followed tomcat doc:
 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/context.html#Request_Filters
 and I was able to restrict access by specifying webapp names, e.g.:
 [[[
 Context path=/manager 
 Valve
 className=org.apache.catalina.valves.RemoteAddrValve
 allow=127.0.0.1 deny=/
 /Context
 ]]]

 How can I deny access to default welcome/index page, changelog,
 release-notes etc.?

 I know just restricting access to default welcome/index page does not
 restrict access to manager or admin links on that page. Still, I would like
 to restrict access to welcome/index page in addition to admin/manager
 webapps. I have tried / and /ROOT and it didn't work.

 Any help or suggestions?

 Thanks,
 jM.







RE: IP based request filters for admin/manager

2010-07-17 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Johan Martinez [mailto:jmart...@gmail.com]
 Subject: IP based request filters for admin/manager
 
 How can I deny access to default welcome/index page,
 changelog, release-notes etc.?

If you're deploying Tomcat in any kind of environment that requires securing 
access to various components, you would normally replace the default webapp 
(ROOT) with one of your own, thereby eliminating the changelog, release-notes, 
etc.

If you want to restrict access to specific resources within a webapp, use the 
servlet-spec defined mechanisms to configure security for the webapp.  (Some 
familiarity with the servlet spec is required before fooling around with a 
servlet container such as Tomcat.)

 - Chuck


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Re: IP based request filters for admin/manager

2010-07-17 Thread Johan Martinez
Thanks for the reply Chuck.

I don't want to replace the default ROOT webapp, in other words, I don't
want my specific webapp to be ROOT app. But I would like to restrict/hide
information normally exposed by the default ROOT webapp. I am thinking about
renaming ROOT directory to some other-random-name and restrict access to
other-random-name using IP filtering. Any suggestions or comments?

Also, an unrelated question to IP filtering, but related manager webapp.  I
removed 'manager' from webapps directory. Now I am not able to access
http://hostname/manager , but http://hostname/manager/html works. I am not
following how second link is working?  Am I missing anything?

Thanks,
jM.


On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Caldarale, Charles R 
chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote:

  From: Johan Martinez [mailto:jmart...@gmail.com]
  Subject: IP based request filters for admin/manager
 
  How can I deny access to default welcome/index page,
  changelog, release-notes etc.?

 If you're deploying Tomcat in any kind of environment that requires
 securing access to various components, you would normally replace the
 default webapp (ROOT) with one of your own, thereby eliminating the
 changelog, release-notes, etc.

 If you want to restrict access to specific resources within a webapp, use
 the servlet-spec defined mechanisms to configure security for the webapp.
  (Some familiarity with the servlet spec is required before fooling around
 with a servlet container such as Tomcat.)

  - Chuck


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RE: IP based request filters for admin/manager

2010-07-17 Thread Caldarale, Charles R

 From: Johan Martinez [mailto:jmart...@gmail.com]
 Subject: Re: IP based request filters for admin/manager
 
 I don't want to replace the default ROOT webapp, in other 
 words, I don't want my specific webapp to be ROOT app.

A little odd, but if that's your choice...

 But I would like to restrict/hide information normally 
 exposed by the default ROOT webapp.

All of what Tomcat's default ROOT has, or just some of it?

For all of it, just place a Context element in 
webapps/ROOT/META-INF/context.xml, configuring the valve you already know 
about.  (Do not use path or docBase attributes here - they're not allowed.)  If 
you only want to restrict some of it, but don't want to use authentication, 
you'll need to write a more sophisticated filter.  There's no need to move or 
rename ROOT, unless you're just trying to obscure things (and security through 
obscurity is a fool's game).

 I removed 'manager' from webapps directory.

What version of Tomcat are you using?  If you're using 5.5.x (hinted at by your 
previous message's reference to a doc page), the manager webapp is in 
server/webapps, not the regular webapps directory.  If you're using a newer 
Tomcat (and you probably should be), manager is under the regular webapps 
directory.

 Now I am not able to access http://hostname/manager

You never could - that will always get you a 404 (at least until Tomcat 7.0.1 
comes out).

 but http://hostname/manager/html works.

That's the valid URL for the manager GUI.  Looks like you didn't really get rid 
of it.

 - Chuck


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