gt;> >
> >> > Hi Edgar,
> >> > Found bug, you are remapping already mapped key 0x1e
> >> > It breaks non-TeVii remotes.
> >> > Look at snip of your patch:
> >> >
> >> > { 0xf8, 0x1e, KEY_W }, /*tvmode*/
>
> >> >> device.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now i have the remote fully working ;)
> >> >>
> >> >> cu
> >> >>
> >> >> Edgar (gimli) Hucek
> >> >
> >>
KEY_W }, /*tvmode*/
> > { 0xf8, 0x1b, KEY_B }, /*recall*/
> >
> > + /* Keys the TeVii S650 provides */
> > +
> > +{ 0xf8, 0x1e, KEY_REWIND },
> >
> > BTW, which USB fimware are you using?
> >
> > Igor
>
> __
*/
+
+{ 0xf8, 0x1e, KEY_REWIND },
BTW, which USB fimware are you using?
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В сообщении от 6 December 2008 17:06:40 Klaus Schmidinger написал(а):
> The attached patch is what I've gathered from various postings
> regarding adapting VDR to the S2API driver API (thanks to
> Igor M. Liplianin, Niels Wagenaar and Edgar Hucek - did I forget anybody?).
>
&
В сообщении от 13 October 2008 19:38:09 Steven Toth написал(а):
> Igor M. Liplianin wrote:
> > I successfully ported stb0899 to S2API
> > For know it is just for testing purposes. Feel free to test it.
> > Any feedback welcome.
> > Locking better with szap-s2 (sorry)
&g
/hg/szap-s2
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В сообщении от 30 September 2008 22:38:50 Jörn Reder написал(а):
> What's the sense of this quoting garbage?
>
You said it to me?
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В сообщении от 30 September 2008 19:03:19 Darron Broad написал(а):
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Igor M. Liplianin"
> wrote:
>
> LO
>
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm on Astra 19.2 and test
В сообщении от 30 September 2008 16:17:22 Darron Broad написал(а):
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Igor M. Liplianin"
> wrote:
>
> Lo.
>
> >=F7 =D3=CF=CF=C2=DD=C5=CE=C9=C9 =CF=D4 30 September 2008 09:08:59 Niels
> > Wag=
> >
> >enaar =CE=C1
В сообщении от 28 September 2008 22:33:56 Igor M. Liplianin написал(а):
> В сообщении от 28 September 2008 17:12:14 Niels Wagenaar написал(а):
> > Hi Igor,
> >
> > Small question. I tried your patch, but it fails a hunk in dvbdevice.c. I
> > added this hunk manual
ck for image. Mainly since
> DVB-T is my backup for channel-viewing and I wanted to focus on the DVB-S2
> problem.
>
> > cu
> >
> > Edgar (gimli) Hucek
>
> Regards,
>
> Niels Wagenaar
May I ask you, Niels or Edgar, would you try szap-s2 with parameter -M3, which
means NBC_QPSK modulation. It is interesting for me, whether it works. i'm
not able to receive Astra HD+ and Anixe HD.
Best Regards
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erties() Property cache is
> full, tuning
>
> If you need further informations let me know.
>
> cu
>
> Edgar (gimli) Hucek
>
> > В сообщении от 28 September 2008 17:12:14 Niels Wagenaar написал(а):
> >> Hi Igor,
> >>
> >> Small question. I tried
В сообщении от 28 September 2008 17:12:14 Niels Wagenaar написал(а):
> Hi Igor,
>
> Small question. I tried your patch, but it fails a hunk in dvbdevice.c. I
> added this hunk manually but I think something is missing:
>
> Sep 28 13:56:15 htpc vdr: [19486] ERROR (dvbdevice.c,2
Niels Wagenaar
Hi Niels
S2API for vdr-1.7.0(1.7.1) quick hack
Patch is ugly and only supported DVB-S. But it is useful to begin.
You may modify it like you wish.
Igor
diff -Naur 1/channels.c 2/channels.c
--- 1/channels.c 2008-04-12 16:49:12.0 +0300
+++ 2/channels.c 2008-09-28
liplianindvb, szap2, szap-s2 hg repositories avialable on
http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/liplianindvb
http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/szap2
http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/szap-s2
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W15 [E0 00 00] W120 [E0 10 38 F9] W120 [E1 10 38 F9]
> W15 T
> S28.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 00 00] W120 [E0 10 38 FA] W120 [E1 10 38 FA]
> W15 t
> S28.2E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 00 00] W120 [E0 10 38 FB] W120 [E1 10 38 FB]
> W15 T
>
> Which seemed sofar quiete good ?
supported by using multi-input lnb's and diseqc-switches :)
>
could you explain please how it's possible to connect 3 cards in VDR to 3 LNB's
for Hotbird, Sirius, Astra for example
with DiSEq-Cswitch
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he signal on my S2-3200 card ?
> >>>
> >>> -how can I reduce the logs from stb6100 ?
> >>>
> >>> -do I need to apply a concurrent recording patch to be able to stream 2 or
> >>> more signals ?
> >>>
> >
> >
> >>
ply a concurrent recording patch to be able to stream 2 or
> > more signals ?
> >
> > thanks for your help
> >
> Errm,
> you say you have two FF-Cards, one connected to an LNB poniting hotbird
> and one connected to another LNB pointing to Astra?
> AFAIk this
apply a concurrent recording patch to be able to stream 2 or
> > more signals ?
> >
> Errm,
> you say you have two FF-Cards, one connected to an LNB poniting hotbird
> and one connected to another LNB pointing to Astra?
no, he has one FF card, second one is budget card TT32
can I reduce the logs from stb6100 ?
have a look on verbose option for stb6100 module - modinfo stb6100
> -do I need to apply a concurrent recording patch to be able to stream 2 or
> more signals ?
which patch do you mean ?
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multiproto_plus
+ hvr4000 patch.
@Gregoire
could you check your hvr4000 patch, because was the report about missing
_set_delsys call in your second patch from 2 May.
http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2008-May/016893.html
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> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:30:44PM +0400, Igor Nikanov wrote:
> > > > ESP HD Intl;CYFRA
> > > > +:11278:vC23M5O35S1:S13.0E:27500:3000:3202=en2,3201=eng:0:0:13061:318:400:0
> > > > ESP HD Turk;CYFRA
> > > > +:11278:vC23M5O35S1:S13.0E:275
elchannelscan works with multiproto.
>
> on my vdr 170 with multiproto_plus the patched reelchannelscan 0.4.1 works
> well
> I hope that someone can patch the reelchannelscan 0.6.1 for vdr 170 &
> multiproto
sorry, I should clarify. On vdr 1.7.0 the patched reelchannelscan 0.4.1 w
't able to decode
> anything from those, are you able to ?
My CPU (P-4 3Ghz) is very slow for 1080x1920, but I could see the tennis on
this channel one hour ago
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0:13071:318:400:0
ESP HD Spanish;CYFRA
+:11278:vC23M5O35S1:S13.0E:27500:3000:3212=esl:0:0:13072:318:400:0
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> > I dont know what you did that fixed this, but i sure cant get
> > it working.
> >
> > Any ideas? Is it a driver problem or vdr?
> >
> > Regards
> > Nilsn
>
>
> Hi,
> Looks like the latest HVR patch is
> broken(HVR-4000-multiproto_plus-200
n works with multiproto.
on my vdr 170 with multiproto_plus the patched reelchannelscan 0.4.1 works well
I hope that someone can patch the reelchannelscan 0.6.1 for vdr 170 & multiproto
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/AVC1, MPEG2-TS/H264 and MKV/H264.
The old patch had support for some other demuxers (namely demux_mpeg.c)
which I haven't implemented because I don't have any example streams
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> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Igor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Hot Bird 7A, 13.0 E
> >
> > Eurosport HD start testing on Hotbird
> > 11278 Ver 27500 2/3 DVB-S2 (8PSK)
> > FTA promo program in moment
> >
> > DVB-S2/
> Am Donnerstag 15 May 2008 schrieb Igor:
> > > Can you post the adress of SVN or is reel SVN??
> >
> > svn co
> > svn://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/testing/src/vdr-plugins/src/channelscan-0.6.1.1
>
> pls use 0.6.1 , 0.6.1.1 was just experimental, so forget that it'
which version of multiproto, szap2, scan did you use ?
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From: Jelle De Loecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 01:02:08 +0200
Subject: [linux-dvb] Technotrend S2-3200 Scanning
>
> Hi again,
>
> It's been a busy day. So I temporarily rem
Hi
Hot Bird 7A, 13.0 E
Eurosport HD start testing on Hotbird
11278 Ver 27500 2/3 DVB-S2 (8PSK)
FTA promo program in moment
DVB-S2/8PSK/MPEG-4/HD/
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> modify it: I need to ADD 4 MHz to the frequency, else I have unreliable
> or no lock).
do you use some MyTHTV-patch for multiproto support ?
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could you release the vdr170-patch for the latest reelchannelscan version
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Hi
can someone to run the coreavc for linux 170 with vdr 170 ?
I couldn't :(
Igor
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From: Darren Salt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: vdr@linuxtv.org
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 21:58:55 +0100
Subject: Re: [vdr] coreavc for Linux (coreavc 1.7.0 + xine patches)
>
&
encrypted to Free to Air
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4 patch) I have exactly the
> same behaviour with vdr-1.7.0 and multiproto plus : channel not
> avaialble for all DVB-S2 channels.
what about the logs ? could you see un /var/syslog
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staying on an encrypted channel that takes
a while for the CAM to start decrypting.
=
may be in 1.7.0 it was broken for dvb-s2 encrypted channels
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eg
> gives messages like the following:
>
> [h264 @ 0xac236490]B picture before any references, skipping
> [h264 @ 0xac236490]decode_slice_header error
> [h264 @ 0xac236490]B picture before any references, skipping
> [h264 @ 0xac236490]decode_slice_header error
so, could you give some resum
atching":
> As written above, those messages are OK when switching to a
> channel. When they appear "during watching" the channel, I could
> think of VDR having issued a CLEAR as it's buffers ran full for
> any reason, but your excerpt doesn't show such messages.
>
> Last but not least, the broadcast stream could have been "buggy".
what about your VDR system ? Have you the same errors ?
btw , I have uploaded one sample from AstraHD with the size 10 MB
Astra.pes
http://www.zshare.net/download/1179707004348a83/
you can try it
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no need the additional patches for vdr 170 except
vdr-1.7.0-h264-syncearly-framespersec-audioindexer-fielddetection-speedup.diff.bz2
, but you already have installed it.
could you check VDR's behaviour on open dvb-s2 channels , please
Igor
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the channels in your channels.conf are encrypted , thta's why vdr couldn't open
them
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To: VDR Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] org>
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 20:52:46 +
Subject: Re: [vdr] Can not view DVB-S2 channels
>
> Nobody
btw - where's home page for reelchannelscan ?
the wiki's links don't work
http://deela.cc.fh-lippe.de/files/vdr-reelchannelscan/vdr-reelchannelscan-0.4.3.tgz
http://www.reel-multimedia.com/german/entwickler/d-plugins.html
the latest version is 0.4.3 ?
wher
scussion about it with MPlayer - developpers
http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2008-May/072988.html
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Adding dshowserver support to mplayer/xine is on my to-do list, but
I'm not sure when I'll get to it (it's been on my to-do list for a
year now...)
Otherwise, the only way to use it on X86-64 is to compile statically
on ia32 (or
re/source/vdr-plugins/vdr-reelchannelscan-0.4.1.tgz
Igor
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From: lucian orasanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: vdr@linuxtv.org
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 10:57:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [vdr] vdr-reelchannelscan plugin
>
> Hy
>
> again 10x for advices.
>
>
would take.
===
btw, there's h264_pes.patch -
h264_pes.patch - h264 in mpeg-pes detection fix (needed for
xineliboutput/streamdev)
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coreavc-xine-1.1.12_more.patch
coreavc-xine-1.1.11.patch
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ponder was OK. Now they apparently
> have moved the faulty stream also to PremiereHD...
the same errors have other h.264 dvb-providers, not only AstraHD. Later I will
show the statistic.
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video_out: throwing away image with pts 120732839 because it's too old (diff :
104127).
I think it's ffmpeg's problem, but I don't know how can I solve it. It seems to
me, nobody from ffmpeg-devel list doesn't want to fix it. Has somebo
Dear Morfsta
would you update your coreavc-patch for current HG-version of xine-lib-1.2
(btw - there's coreavc 1.7.0)
I have the problem with patch
# cat xine-lib-1.2hg-coreavc.diff | patch -p1 --dry-run
patching file include/xine/buffer.h
Hunk #2 succeeded at 687 (offset 1 line).
patching file
Hi
thanks for the interesting news.
BTW - is there any HDTV-feeds from satellites ? does somebody watch it by vdr ?
Igor
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Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 20:58:32 +0100
Subject: [vdr] OT: ITV HD Testing
could you show the syslog/xine/ffmeg outputs during this problem.
It seems to is ffmpeg problem
Igor
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Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 17:40:44 +0200
Subject: [vdr] Judder with interlaced channels
>
> I have some problem
sorry, I was wrong
with the latest cumulative hvr4000-patch from Gregoire
HVR-4000-multiproto_plus-2008-05-02.diff.bz2
I can tune on dvb-s2 channels on my VDR 170
this patch is OK for me
@Gregoire
thank you very much
Igor
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T
with this patch I could receive dvb-s2 channels on my VDR 170
I don't have the error
May 3 22:42:15 localhost vdr: [3471] ERROR (dvbdevice.c,302): Invalid argument
anymore
@gilmi
thanks
Igor
> sorry, took a little bit longer to find time for made the patch.
> This patch
frontend 0 timed out while tuning to
> > channel 2782, tp 111914
>
> Please post the channels.conf line of that channel.
ASTRA
HD+;BetaDigital:11914:hC910M2O35S1:S19.2E:27500:1279:0;1283=deu:0:0:131:133:6:0
but the problem was in bug inside cx24116 driver
Gilmi has fixed it in "HVR-4000-multiproto_plus-2008-04-25_inversion" patch for
cx24116.c
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repo :-)
>
> Any objection to the inclusion ?
with this patch I have the error
May 3 22:42:15 localhost vdr: [3471] ERROR (dvbdevice.c,302): Invalid argument
when I try to tune on dvb-s2 channels on VDR
But with HVR-4000-multiproto_plus-2008-04-25.diff +
"HVR-4000-multiproto
ate=256:subq=5:8x8dct:frameref=2:bframes=3:b_pyramid:weight_b:threads=auto
>
> -oac lavc -lavcopts acodec=aac:abitrate=20 -o $OUT.avi &>$OUT.log
it's interesting...
BTW - does the picture's quality change after high quality h264 decoding ?
Which bitrate and resolution ha
gt; stream with h264 codec and after that stream it into internet.
do you encode mpeg2 satellite channels to h.264 on the fly ? It seems to me
it's very hard job for CPU
or do you stream in Internet h.264 dvb-s2 channels ?
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re's January hvr4000 patch
http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2008-January/023390.html
and multifrontend patch
http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2008-January/023416.html
may be they will help to you
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agains latest multiproto_plus +
your hvr4000_patch + h264 patch from Reinchard Nissl
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have you the same dvbdevice.c as me ?
> > when I want to switch on dvb-s2 channel
> > ASTRA
> > HD+;BetaDigital:11914:hC910I1M2O35S1:S19.2E:27500:1279:0;1283=deu:0:0:131:133:6:0
>
> Well, I have this :
>
> ASTRA
> HD+;BetaDigital:11914:hC910M2O35S1:S19.2E:27500:1279:0;1283=deu:0:0:13
=2
> Maybe I can find a solution for vdr-xine to detect this issue and
> reestablish a suitable buffer in this case.
fine :)
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el 2782, tp 111914
in attachment you can find my dvbdevice.c
Igor
dvbdevice.c.bz2
Description: BZip2 compressed data
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Hi
when I want to switch on dvb-s2 channels (
Apr 28 09:18:32 localhost vdr: [4188] switching to channel 2782
Apr 28 09:18:32 localhost vdr: [4535] transfer thread ended (pid=4188, tid=4535)
Apr 28 09:18:32 localhost vdr: [4188] buffer stats: 0 (0%) used
Apr 28 09:18:32 localhost vdr: [4756] tr
!
=
which difference between this describing ?
http://linuxtv.org/vdrwiki/index.php/Syntax_of_channels.conf
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Hi
how is it possible to scan dvb-s/s2 channels with vdr 1.7.0 ?
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vdr: [5738] Leaving cXineRemote thread
Apr 27 13:38:03 localhost vdr: [5738] XineRemote control thread ended
(pid=5732, tid=5738)
Apr 27 13:38:03 localhost vdr: [5741] KBD remote control thread ended
(pid=5732, tid=5741)
Apr 27 13:38:03 localhost vdr: [5732] saved setup to /etc/vdr/setup
Hi
are you sure - is it h264 decoder ? May be it's accelerator for decoding h264
video ?
Anyway , currently in Linux there's not any driver for support of hardware
decoding HD video in graphic cards from ATI/Nvidia
Igor
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yes, with the dvb-s2 and h264 patches from Reinchard Nissl
> Does VDR 1.4 - 1.6 work with multiproto drivers ?
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7;s VAAPI - Video Decode Acceleration API Specification
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/vaapi
but seems it hasn't finished yet :(
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Chipmaker Via's S3 Graphics division has announced a high-performance discrete
graphics processor positioned as the first to meet the embedded industry's
thermal requirements. The 4300E targets gaming and signage, offers HD video,
DVI or HDMI o
segfault at a695e000 eip
b770f4f0 esp ac14bdb0 error
4 Apr 21 14:52:18 lin-tv lircd-0.8.2[2481]: removed client
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> > You have both the functionality of both trees in one tree.
> > If that looks hard, i can push a tree which is a result of the above
> > outlined steps.
@Manu
It will be great :)
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nux software (ffmpeg and players) that can support hardware video
decoding
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Great!
several questions.
Which CPU and TV do you have ? Which CPU's load do you have ?
What's name you motherboard ?
How much RAM do you have ?
Are you watching the hdtv dvb-s2 channels by hdmi video-output, what about
playing of hdtv files ?
Igor
> I know, I'm already run
Hi
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~124070,00.html
http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=2345
I think it's good platform for VDR with hdtv future :)
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uy in the
RMM-internet shop (or other shops) for upgrading existing VDR with
Celeron/Sempron or other slow CPU ?
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> > Is this card still being manufactured, considering that Micronas USA
> > closed down and the Decypher has been EOL'd ?
If Micronas USA was closed down, is it means that other mpeg2/h.264
decoder-chips from Micronas are not producing
Hello
is there any good news about the current status of Extension HD PCI from
ReelMultimedia ?
Is there a full support for 1080p/1080i by hdmi and YUV output ?
What about deinterlacing - is it work fine ?
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fe_info' no tiene un miembro llamado
> 'delivery'
> dvbdevice.c:286: error: 'struct dvbfe_info' no tiene un miembro llamado
> 'delivery'
> dvbdevice.c:307: error: 'struct dvbfe_info' no tiene un miembro llamado
> 'deliver
> Have you ever tried complaining to those providers, telling them about
> their non-standard behavior?
I have tried. Several times. No results. I can confirm that only VDR has this
problem. Other receivers (dreambox for example) don't have this pro
sorry , I meant - when will be release the vdr 1.7.0
-Original Message-
From: FЭley IstvАn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Igor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, VDR Mailing List
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:52:53 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Re: [vdr] vdr 1.6.0 - when ?
>
> Please read the f
Klaus
when will you plan to release the vdr developer version with support of the
multiproto + h.264 + ts recording ?
It will be the vdr 1.6.0 ?
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other words
this motheboard card from VIA couldn't hardware-decode the MPEG-4 Part 10
streams.
Igor
> >>for hdtv - no.
> >>I don't see the h.264 hardware decoding. mpeg4 is
> not >>h.264.
> >>
> >>Igor
>
>
> What is H.264?
>
700M2 chipset which features MPEG2/4 hardware
> > decoding. It has DVI and Y/Pb/Pr video output as well as analog and
> > SPDIF audio (coaxial and optical). So that's everything we need, isn't
> > it.
for hdtv - no.
I don't see the h.264 hardware decoding. mpeg4 is n
700M2 chipset which features MPEG2/4 hardware
> > decoding. It has DVI and Y/Pb/Pr video output as well as analog and
> > SPDIF audio (coaxial and optical). So that's everything we need, isn't
> > it.
for hdtv - no.
I don't see the h.264 hardware decoding. mpeg4 is n
> >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in
> >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support?
> >
> > Yes or No?
No.
I really want to see in VDR (stable and devel-versions) the fastest
implementation the dvb-s2, h.264
tal Satellite TV
- DVB-S digital Satellite TV
- Freeview digital Terrestrial TV
- Analogue TV
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Manu
will be possibility to receive from driver the raw statistic, too ?
Igor
-Original Message-
From: Manu Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: VDR Mailing List
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:22:58 +0400
Subject: Re: [vdr] Multiproto updated Re: [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version
opy the files
from
/multiproto/linux/include/linux/dvb/version.h
/multiproto/linux/include/linux/dvb/frontend.h
to
/usr/include/linux/dvb
and recompile the VDR
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odules at run time.
so, what do you mean - "updated multiproto headers" - are the version.h and
frontend.h ? only this two files Manu have
changed in multiproto.
Igor
> > AFAICT, the updated headers can be used along with the old drivers without
> > any issues. If not there&
I'm affraid from now there's not any dvb-s2 open mpeg2 channels
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> I am really really really sad on how bad this card gets into linux :-(
I'm too :(
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> I'll try 1.2,
may be it's the best case :)
@Reinhard
is there any difference between xine-lib 1.2 branch and 1.1 branch for our case
?
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sion from Walery
http://allrussian.info/thread.php?postid=1226030#post1226030
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for xineliboutput you have to try the patch from
http://allrussian.info/thread.php?postid=1226448#post1226448
(very many thanks to Walery)
>>With vdr-xine-0.8.1.tgz it all seems to work :)
fine !!! and what about your impressions ?
> Many thanks to Igor who has been a great help!
ah,
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