Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-11 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 05/11/07 18:56, VDR User wrote: > On 5/11/07, Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, at some point I'd have to deal with it, anyway, if it's supposed >> to become part of the core VDR code. So I'd rather do it myself now. > > Sure, but if doing it yourself means not doing it prop

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-11 Thread VDR User
On 5/11/07, Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, at some point I'd have to deal with it, anyway, if it's supposed to become part of the core VDR code. So I'd rather do it myself now. Sure, but if doing it yourself means not doing it properly, why not let someone else who's willing

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-11 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 05/11/07 18:10, VDR User wrote: > I think the best question to be asking concerning UTF-8 isn't if you > personally like the idea but rather what's better in terms of design. > That consideration should outweigh any other. You certainly don't > want to create a situation where you're doing a lo

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-11 Thread VDR User
I think the best question to be asking concerning UTF-8 isn't if you personally like the idea but rather what's better in terms of design. That consideration should outweigh any other. You certainly don't want to create a situation where you're doing a lot more work then necessary in the long run

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-11 Thread Torgeir Veimo
On 11 May 2007, at 15:54, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Please don't make same hacks such in my patch. Change a type to wchar_t. wchar_t is definitely *not* the way I'll go. I feel so lucky working with Java when it comes to character encoding issues. Our webapp uses UTF-8 exclusively, but we

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's simply short-sighted. The best way in Open Source is fork of project. If this happens, I will support this new project. -- Alexander ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-11 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 05/11/07 16:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi All, > hi Klaus, > > i would like to say also my 0,02€ to it. > > My UTF-8 patch, which I wrote for 1.3 - 1.4 vdr is ugly hack. > I have developed a patch from emergency !!! > > I must unfortunately with 3 languages go around and could not simpl

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi All, hi Klaus, i would like to say also my 0,02€ to it. My UTF-8 patch, which I wrote for 1.3 - 1.4 vdr is ugly hack. I have developed a patch from emergency !!! I must unfortunately with 3 languages go around and could not simply not see that German words instead of üöä cyrillic characters

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-11 Thread Dieter Fauth
Hi Klaus, in our devices (barcode reader) we use 16 bit characters and it works out nice and easy and very similar to the old bytes. It was not easy to convince my collegues (in the USA), but I managed to do it. IMHO this is much simpler than the UTF8, all the index into a string still wor

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-11 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 05/11/2007 09:25 AM, Ludwig Nussel wrote: > > What's wrong with vdr using UTF-8 internally if it makes the code simpler? > > Offhand I could only imagine two places where using a different external > > encoding would be required and that's file names and tty i/o. Stuff

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-11 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 05/11/2007 09:25 AM, Ludwig Nussel wrote: > Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >> On 05/10/07 20:04, Udo Richter wrote: >>> ... >>> VDR development would speed up, if Klaus would delegate more work to >>> other talented coders, and doing more review instead of coding most of >>> it himself. >> Well, right

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-11 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 05/10/07 20:04, Udo Richter wrote: > > ... > > VDR development would speed up, if Klaus would delegate more work to > > other talented coders, and doing more review instead of coding most of > > it himself. > > Well, right now I'm dealing with the UTF-8 stuff, which i

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-10 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 05/10/07 20:04, Udo Richter wrote: > ... > VDR development would speed up, if Klaus would delegate more work to > other talented coders, and doing more review instead of coding most of > it himself. Well, right now I'm dealing with the UTF-8 stuff, which is something I myself don't need at all.

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-10 Thread Udo Richter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you yourself said in the above/below statement, time is a limited resource for this project and you can't spend all day developing vdr (and you have a life besides vdr =). The way I see it, is a clear roadmap could make the development more effective and avoid waste o

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-09 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 05/09/07 18:37, VDR User wrote: > ... > I've been using vdr since 1.3.x also and most of the > 'development' versions up until 1.5.2 have been very stable. I personally always use the latest developer version in every day operation, so I have every reason to make sure it runs stable ;-) Klaus

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-09 Thread VDR User
On 5/9/07, Joerg Knitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: During the development of version 1.3 I have been often a little frustrated not to have seen a final version 1.4. There were a lot of reasons that IMHO the usage of version 1.2 was quite outdated: No automatic channel scan, updated Dolby Digital

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-09 Thread Torgeir Veimo
On 9 May 2007, at 17:10, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: As Clemens already stated, UTF-8 pretty much requires that. However, I'm not sure, yet, whether this also immediately means "font anitaliasing", because that's not necessarily something required by UTF-8. Well, it's prob not required, but it m

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-09 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 05/09/07 16:37, Torgeir Veimo wrote: > > On 9 May 2007, at 15:06, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > >> On 05/09/2007 04:02 PM, Joerg Knitter wrote: >>> .. >>> P.S.: Great to see the UTF-8 support. I can remember some posts where >>> kls said that he did not like it and thus did not want to implement

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-09 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Torgeir Veimo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does the UTF-8 support include the freetype font support? > Antialiased fonts looks s much better. UTF-8 makes no sense with a 7-bit ascii character set. so i guess, yes. clemens ___ vdr mailing list vdr@

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-09 Thread Torgeir Veimo
On 9 May 2007, at 15:06, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 05/09/2007 04:02 PM, Joerg Knitter wrote: .. P.S.: Great to see the UTF-8 support. I can remember some posts where kls said that he did not like it and thus did not want to implement it :) I still don't like it - and I won't be using it

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-09 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 05/09/2007 04:02 PM, Joerg Knitter wrote: > .. > P.S.: Great to see the UTF-8 support. I can remember some posts where > kls said that he did not like it and thus did not want to implement it :) I still don't like it - and I won't be using it myself either ;-) Klaus __

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-09 Thread Joerg Knitter
VDR User wrote: > I can say I have no concern about the development of vdr unless Klaus and the others tells us theres reason for it. I'm perfectly content hearing "1.6 will be out when it's ready" as long as I know it's under active development. I have been a VDR user for nearly 5 years now,

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-08 Thread VDR User
I'll chime in... I've emailed Klaus on many occasions with what I thought were potential bugs, new feature requests, or just general inquiry. He's always replied (although sometimes not so quickly ;), and what I've come to realize... or maybe remember is a better word to use here.. What I've c

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-08 Thread mikke
ONE LAST THING! =) > As I've stated on several occasions: I don't like official > roadmaps. They tend to become sort of binding, and if - for > some reason - a new release actually doesn't contain a feature > that was promised on the roadmap, all sorts of complaints > might emerge. I do observe th

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-08 Thread mikke
I hereby take back what I said about having time to reply =) On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:43:59PM +0200, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 05/08/07 22:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ... > > The stable version of vdr (1.4.6.something at the time being afaik) > > get's "older" all the time and only the

Re: [vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-08 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 05/08/07 22:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ... > The stable version of vdr (1.4.6.something at the time being afaik) > get's "older" all the time and only the most vital parts > from the devel-branch get backported. Well, that's what a "stable" version is by definition ;-) It gets actual bugs f

[vdr] A few observations on the vdr project

2007-05-08 Thread mikke
Hello! I would like to share some of thoughts on what I have observed over a short periode of time. I've been following the mailing list, I don't have practically any knowledge in programming so I won't even try to comment on the technical details of the vdr project itself. I would also like to po