Re: [VFB] I'M still kickin'

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

 Good to hear from you. Did you catch fish?Rick
On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 12:04:33 AM CDT, Michael Bliss 
 wrote:  
 
 Hey Chuck,You have been through it but but glad you are on the mend.  Maybe if 
you routed for Bama things would be better?  Just sayin'
Mike
On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 4:43 PM 'Charles Alexander' via VFB Mail 
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Folks:  I'm still  here too. Just  haven't  felt up to it as for the last two 
yrs after covid  TRIED to kill me. I spent over 70 days in a coma,kidneys 
started shutting down etc etc. As soon as they'd fix one thing something else 
would pop up,with the latest thing being a positive cologuard test and I'm 
supposed to have the ole colonoscopy to get that checked out. 

my docs have all told me that I had the worse case of covid they have seen and 
lived to tell about it. I still cannot walk without the aid of a walker but God 
has seen me this far so I don't think He's going to fail me now. I did lose one 
of my younger brothers this last July. He went to Wal-Mart, got inside the door 
and he just feel over dead. There happened to be a gold sematin right there and 
he gave my brother CPr till the got there and because of that we were able. 
Donate my brothers organs which either saved the lived or improved  the lives

 On a better topic, two months ago we closed on a new home and are still 
haven't finished moving which is a pain but we love the new place and it's only 
5-10 minuites from two city parks, which are both stocked with bass and 
bluegills. And I did get to go fishing three times last Spring and we did fish 
each trip.  Then, three and six months ago respectively, we welcomed two new 
grand daughters which brings the total to 17 and 18 total and paw pawpaws job 
is to hold and spoil them. We even have one great grand daughter. Now, I turn 
65 tomorrow, but that don't seem old enough to be a GREAT grandfather lol. 
Well, sorry for writing a BOOK here but trying to condense two Yrs into one 
email ain't easy for a blow hard like me  lol, Chuck

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Re: [VFB] Any VFB'ers communicating presently via email?

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 Virtual Fly Box under groups
On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 06:14:37 PM CDT, Michael Bliss 
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 what's the name of the facebook group? Mike
On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 4:51 PM Michael Bliss  wrote:

I'm still here.  I miss the "old" days too.  We had so many participating.  I 
am sorry that we have lost a few of our great members.  I appreciate Rick 
posting on the email site.  I did not know we had a Facebook presence.  I don't 
go there often.  I guess I will have to start going there.
Mike Bliss
On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 10:54 PM Bob Hendry  wrote:

I'm still hanging on. Though I don't understand why I even bother with wearing 
waders. Seems I spend considerly more energy trying to climb up out of the 
creek than fishing it. Nothing worse than having cold H²O up to your knees 
inside your waders 

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>I see Rick Zieger fairly regularly posting on our Facebook group.
>But hardly anyone else.  I miss hearing from everyone. It would be nice
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>know how many of us are still falling into the creek or out of the
>boat.
>Gary Webb
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Re: [VFB] Any VFB'ers communicating presently via email?

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

 Here is the info I got from Chucks wife. 
3002 snow Lane oxford Al 36203 his email is the same his laptop has just been 
packed up since we are still moving chuckalexan...@centurylink.net










On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 09:15:38 AM CDT,  wrote: 
 
 
 
I haven’t been very active for a while, whether it’s posting to the group, 
tying or even fishing. Looked @ my tying station the other day, thinking about 
tying some bass streamers. Only got out on the water a couple times last year, 
hopefully that will change. I’d be up for a virtual swap.

  

J

  

J Balmer

Betadigm

jbal...@betadigm.com

309-287-9421

  

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peggy 
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Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2023 7:06 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Any VFB'ers communicating presently via email?

  

How many of us are on the facebook vfb page?  I was thinking we could swap but 
instead of mailing a box of flies just post a picture on the facebook, no 
postage.  They think a lot of themselves and are just to much now.  It would 
give us all some ideas from each other but not the consistency of tying a dozen 
or more of the same fly.

  

Peggy B

  

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 6:52 PM Michael Bliss  wrote:


I'm still here.  I miss the "old" days too.  We had so many participating.  I 
am sorry that we have lost a few of our great members.  I appreciate Rick 
posting on the email site.  I did not know we had a Facebook presence.  I don't 
go there often.  I guess I will have to start going there.

  

Mike Bliss

  

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 10:54 PM Bob Hendry  wrote:


I'm still hanging on. Though I don't understand why I even bother with wearing 
waders. Seems I spend considerly more energy trying to climb up out of the 
creek than fishing it. Nothing worse than having cold H²O up to your knees 
inside your waders 

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>I see Rick Zieger fairly regularly posting on our Facebook group.
>But hardly anyone else.  I miss hearing from everyone. It would be nice
>to
>know how many of us are still falling into the creek or out of the
>boat.
>Gary Webb
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Re: [VFB] Chuck

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

 He has been recovering from long covid. They have m oved to a house in town 
and seem to be doing better.Rick 
On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 05:40:57 PM CDT, Donna Crowell 
 wrote:  
 
 Hello to all
 I haven't heard from Chuck in a whileI got told from Allan which I know we 
lossRIP that Chuck had covid Allan said he was'tdoing good, maybe someone out 
there knows something . Please let me know if any one knowsanything.      Thank 
You.
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Re: [VFB] Membership

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 Go to facebook and search for the Virtual Flybox  ask to join and one of the 
moderators will approve you.  It has migrated to there.Rick 
On Wednesday, May 11, 2022, 11:12:35 AM CDT, 'Everett Hall' via VFB Mail 
 wrote:  
 
 I have been a member of V FB since I can remember.Can you check if I am still 
listed as a member??
E-mail Adress:   e.hal...@yahoo.com
Thanks..

Buck Hall Palmetto ,Florida e.hal...@yahoo.com
Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply.
 Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.

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Re: [VFB] Great hooks, great price

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 I have been using hooks from Wholesaleflycopoany.com.  They seems to be the 
equivalent of Dai Riki.  usually $7.00/1000
Rick 
On Saturday, May 15, 2021, 08:38:42 AM CDT, Gary Webb 
 wrote:  
 
 During this last year I have probably tied more flys (most I will probably 
never use) than since we used to have several swaps going at one time.Anyway, I 
love the hooks from Green Caddis Outfitters.   And the price is pretty good 
too.     https://gcoutfitters.com/  
I've done a bit of fishing lately.  Caught several using a Pink Squirrel most 
of the time.   After my hernia surgery, my Dr. said: "Don't go near any water 
except a shower for the next two weeks." That ban ended two weeks ago. Now all 
I have to do for the next three weeks is avoid catching a fish that weighs more 
than 10 lbs.  I think I can manage that. LOL   My latest learning adventure in 
fly tying is with the Kebari style. They area Japanese creation.  A soft hackle 
fly with the cone facing 
forward.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTTVg3wKZ5A=0
And I'm trying Tenkara fly fishing. Which is very similar to Euro Nymphing.    
If you are a KISS type of person, Tenkara fly fishing is about as simple as it 
gets.  A lot of the streams here in the DriftlessArea of Southwest WI, 
Southeast MN, and Northeast IA are not very friendly to long back casts, or 
even short ones. You get pretty good at roll casting.  But in some spots that 
won't work either.  So any method that "keeps my fly in or on the water, 
because there are no fish in the air", is worth trying.  Plus it gives me an 
excuse for buying another fly rod. LOL.
Gary




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[VFB] Fw: Thank You for Attending Don's Virtual Memorial Service

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

 

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Re: [VFB] Re: Don O memorial

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

 If you \forund into the swap flies I sent to Don, have Cheryl open the 
packaged.  A gift for them .
Rick
On Monday, February 22, 2021, 08:42:05 AM CST, Phxflytyer 
 wrote:  
 
 
Should have said 2 PM Mountain time as that is where he lived. 

Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
Mesa, Az.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.

Real funny Scotty?
Now beam down my clothes!


> On Feb 22, 2021, at 7:40 AM, Phxflytyer  wrote:
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> If anyone would like to attend this event, please let me know. I will 
> forward your email address to Donny Ordes so he can send you a Zoom 
> invitation?
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> It is scheduled for this Saturday at 2 PM. 
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> Sent from my iPad
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> Thank You,
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> Mesa, Az.
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> Now beam down my clothes!
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Re: [VFB] Re: Don O memorial

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 rdzieg...@yahoo.com
On Monday, February 22, 2021, 10:38:57 AM CST, Phxflytyer 
 wrote:  
 
 Rick;
Please send me your email address. Apparently I don’t have it?


Sent from my iPad
Thank You,Alan Di SommaMesa, Az.
Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
Real funny Scotty?Now beam down my clothes!


On Feb 22, 2021, at 7:49 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
 wrote:



 I would like it.
Rick 
On Monday, February 22, 2021, 08:42:05 AM CST, Phxflytyer 
 wrote:  
 
 
Should have said 2 PM Mountain time as that is where he lived. 

Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
Mesa, Az.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.

Real funny Scotty?
Now beam down my clothes!


> On Feb 22, 2021, at 7:40 AM, Phxflytyer  wrote:
> 
> If anyone would like to attend this event, please let me know. I will 
> forward your email address to Donny Ordes so he can send you a Zoom 
> invitation?
> 
> It is scheduled for this Saturday at 2 PM. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
> 
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
> 
> Real funny Scotty?
> Now beam down my clothes!
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Re: [VFB] Re: Don O memorial

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

 I would like it.
Rick 
On Monday, February 22, 2021, 08:42:05 AM CST, Phxflytyer 
 wrote:  
 
 
Should have said 2 PM Mountain time as that is where he lived. 

Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
Mesa, Az.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.

Real funny Scotty?
Now beam down my clothes!


> On Feb 22, 2021, at 7:40 AM, Phxflytyer  wrote:
> 
> If anyone would like to attend this event, please let me know. I will 
> forward your email address to Donny Ordes so he can send you a Zoom 
> invitation?
> 
> It is scheduled for this Saturday at 2 PM. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
> 
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
> 
> Real funny Scotty?
> Now beam down my clothes!
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[VFB] Fw: nosey ?

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

 

   - Forwarded Message - From: wilmaalexan...@centurylink.net 
To: 'Rick Zieger' ; 'Allan 
Fish' ; Joseph Wonoski ; 
"trout...@gmail.com" Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021, 
11:38:34 PM CSTSubject: RE: nosey ?
 
You are not being Nosey!  I know it’s been a while since I updated anyone,  but 
yes we came thru the storms with no damage other than a LOT of leaves to rake! 
Had to get two loads of gravel hauled in for the driveway that washed out, but 
that was mostly just from the months and months of rain we have had, and I had 
been putting off the order of the gravel.  It got kinda boggy with home health 
coming up to 4 times a week and the mail person that drives a 4x4 jeep just 
LOVED to tear it up even more with all the mud.  Chuck’s therapy has improved 
his movements and he was able to sit up on the side of the bed for nearly an 
hour Sunday evening.  Doesn’t seem like a lot to some people but when you think 
about someone being flat on their back since Nov 8 it is a LOT.    He was told 
by home health that he is the worst case of recovery from covid they have seen 
this year, but he is making great strides,  but not fast enough for him of 
course.  

  

He missed going fishing much at all this year because of rain or working on the 
boat (that we still haven’t gotten it in the water yet!) then it was too hot… 
just excuses I know but for now I will be proud if he is able to walk by the 
time our son’s wedding comes in August.   This is our 40th Valentines Day this 
weekend of being together,  but at least we are together.  There were a lot of 
dark days while he was hospitalized that I didn’t share with anyone but when 
there is nothing you can do except pray, and hope he is ok since they suspended 
all visitors you just pray. 

 I see his drop feet, and see how painful they are,  and neither of the 
hospitals can even tell us where the scarring on the back of his left leg came 
from,  they “have no idea” it was there. 

PT was able to show me how to help him move to a chair, and we were successful 
in that,  hoping my back holds out!   

It just occurred to me today that he still didn’t know about DonO,  and broke 
my heart to tell him,  he hasn’t said much today,  slept a lot since therapy 
days wear him out so much.   Not looking forward to the cold weather we get 
this week but we will be safe and warm at home.  Glad my job is still allowing 
me leeway on working from home,  and if they didn’t I would just find something 
else!  LOL  Some of you have asked about what I prefer to be called,  Billie to 
friends like you all,  Wilma is just my given name and only work people call me 
by Wilma. 

  

Call anytime to talk to Chuck,  best times are after 3pm when therapy is done, 
but he is usually awake most of the day,  my cell is 256-276-9098 since his 
phone was shattered when the favored grandbaby (3 yr old) dropped it, I still 
haven’t replaced his phone since I haven’t been to town since before he came 
home.  Our kids do the shopping and delivery service is great,  because they 
usually take out the trash while they are here, and any other little chores I 
can think up for them.  #3 son is getting to be a great electrician catching up 
on things that Chuck had put off for the last 6 months before getting sick.  
Favored grandbaby Stella called today because she “misses her Pawpaw and 
doesn’t want him to be lonely” so they are coming tomorrow to stay for a couple 
of days. 

 
I have rambled on and on so I will close now,  

Please keep us both in your thoughts and prayers and let the group(s) know he 
is healing, hoping to be fishing by summer at least, even if I have to push him 
to the lake in a wheelchair! 

Sincerely, 

Billie Alexander 

  

-

  

From: Rick Zieger  
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 9:16 AM
To: wilmaalexan...@centurylink.net
Subject: nosey ?

  

Do OK with all the storms that went through?

  

Rick 

  

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[VFB] Don Ordes news

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Just saw a Facebook post that Don died.
Rick 

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Re: [VFB] Fwd: Tony Spezio

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 Sad to hear this.  
Rick 
On Saturday, August 15, 2020, 08:55:24 AM CDT, Peggy Brenner 
 wrote:  
 
 For those who are not on FB, Tony died in his sleep last night.  I visited 
them at the home in early March as I was in Mountain Home for a ladies fly 
tying event. He was determined to make 90 but didn't seem to have a plan other 
than getting home after that. Going home was not an option without live in 
care, but the home was very nice and everyone knew both of them as the 
employees lived local as well. 

Maybe next year for Sowbug we should all meet there for a  moment of silence in 
his honor and before we all get to 90.
Peggy

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 10:22 AM 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
 wrote:

 Thanks for the info. Not what  I wanted to hear.
Rick 
On Thursday, July 9, 2020, 06:16:10 PM CDT, Scott Bearden 
 wrote:  
 
 FYI, Keep Tony in your prayers. He has several major hurdles to overcome.

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From: Mike Stout 
Date: Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:23 PM
Subject: Tony Spezio

For those of you that don't know (I think that is most of you), Tony had to
have his other leg removed. They did it yesterday, and the last that I
heard from his son Bob, he was asleep in his room. His daughter and son in
law were there. This was a 50/50 operation and he survived again. There is
also a 50/50 chance of life threatening complications in the first 30 days.
They will only let 1 family member in at a time, so of course this is all
second hand for me. Just reporting what I have been told. I am currently on
the Conejos, and communication is slow. Will report further when I
have more information.

Mike


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Re: [VFB] Fwd: Tony Spezio

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 Thanks for the info. Not what  I wanted to hear.
Rick 
On Thursday, July 9, 2020, 06:16:10 PM CDT, Scott Bearden 
 wrote:  
 
 FYI, Keep Tony in your prayers. He has several major hurdles to overcome.

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From: Mike Stout 
Date: Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:23 PM
Subject: Tony Spezio

For those of you that don't know (I think that is most of you), Tony had to
have his other leg removed. They did it yesterday, and the last that I
heard from his son Bob, he was asleep in his room. His daughter and son in
law were there. This was a 50/50 operation and he survived again. There is
also a 50/50 chance of life threatening complications in the first 30 days.
They will only let 1 family member in at a time, so of course this is all
second hand for me. Just reporting what I have been told. I am currently on
the Conejos, and communication is slow. Will report further when I
have more information.

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[VFB] Happy July 4th

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Have a Happy and Safe one.

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Re: [VFB]

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 Thanks for the update.
Rick 
On Saturday, June 27, 2020, 06:58:00 PM CDT, Peggy Brenner 
 wrote:  
 
 The care centers here have been closed since mid-March. The closest we have 
been is a drive though on Father’s Day. Dot is good and recognized us, but Tony 
is suffering from dementia and barely recognizes Robert, his son. Hoping they 
open up the care facilities by mid-July. It is heartbreaking as have not been 
able to see him for three plus months!Chat Conversation EndType a message...
>From Dave Boyer Pres of North Arkansas fly fishers, this is the latest on Dot 
>and Tony.

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Re: [VFB] test to vfb

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 His daughter said that neither of them seems to be answering their phones. She 
has not seen them for about 2 months now.But give it a try.
Rick 
On Monday, May 18, 2020, 11:00:45 AM CDT, Peggy Brenner 
 wrote:  
 
 My gmail is giving me trouble today getting something out to the group.
Has anyone tried to call tony? I may give him a try, getting ready to go back 
down to Mtn Home in the fall.
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Re: [VFB] Must have missed the Tee shirt test

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 Ouch

Rick On Monday, March 30, 2020, 07:17:58 PM CDT, Gary Webb 
 wrote:  
 
 I was out fishing this morning.  Crooked Creek in southeastern Minnesota is a 
short 30 minute drive away.This was a KISS outing.  Tenkara rod, a small box of 
Pink Squirrels, and polaroid glasses.  At the first pool I caught a nice 14 
inch brown.  My next cast hooked a weed on the bank. I'm blaming the wind.  
Anyway while I was trying to retrieve the fly, Shadow my fishing dog ran by and 
dragged the line through my hand until my finger stopped the hook. I thought, 
thisis no big deal. I will just back it out and keep fishing. It would not 
budge.And I didn't have my vest with the forceps clipped to it.  I broke off 
the fly and went back to fishing.  Caught four more before heading for 
home.Five fish total. Plus a big guy that broke off.  66 inches and about 170 
lbs. At home I cut the hook with side cutter pliers and removed the point.  
I've always said my main reason for using barbless hooks is this:  The "Catch" 
I most like to release is ME!   I usually do the Tee shirt test on all my 
hooks. But I must have missed this one.Tight lines you all.  But only if your 
hook is in a fish and not your hide.
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Re: [VFB] Who remembers?

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 There were photos of the flies and people inthe swap.
Rick 

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 10:22:47 PM CDT, Michael Bliss 
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 I wonder if I have that one stored somewhere.  Was that the one where we drew 
a picture of our flies?
Mike
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Just reread the book on the Most Memorable Fly Swap book from 2002.  Who else 
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Re: [VFB] Who remembers?

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 The folks who were in the swap wrote s story about he fly and they we collated 
for the participants.
Rick 

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 2:01:09 PM CDT, Jack Harford 
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 What book is it???
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 12:25 PM 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
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Just reread the book on the Most Memorable Fly Swap book from 2002.  Who else 
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[VFB] Who remembers?

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Just reread the book on the Most Memorable Fly Swap book from 2002.  Who else 
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Re: [VFB] FEATHERS

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 Their dyed peacock does not have much herl left on it.Their peacock swords I 
like. Continential feathers.com has better peacock.

On Saturday, March 21, 2020, 9:58:48 AM CDT, Gary Webb 
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 Like a lot things I do, I found this source by accident.   They have a lot of 
feathers and other stuff fly tyers might like. Prices seem very reasonable.I 
had to lock up my credit card, because I already have more stuff than I'm ever 
going to use.  But you all know how it goes.https://www.moonlightfeather.com/  

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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

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 Sorry to hear this.
Rick.

On Sunday, March 15, 2020, 3:55:54 PM CDT, Allan  
wrote:  
 
 I received a saddening phone call from Tony today.  He was very difficult to 
understand but he wanted me to post on the lists that he will no longer be able 
to make rods.  He has sold his lathe and some other equipment.  There is still 
one rod at his house he would like to sell.  I think he said he would sell it 
for $500, but I am not certain.  He has some smaller tools available.  He did 
not say how to get them, but if you have are interested, I have his son 
Robert's e-mail address.
Tony said he is no longer able to read nor to use the internet.  He is very 
weak and I could tell it took all his effort to even make the phone call.  He 
was trying to tell me something and then just said "Bye" and hung up. Hi 
nursing home is like most others and allows no visitors,
I am very sad to have to write this.

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[VFB] Birthday

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Happy Birthday Scott Bearden.
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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed

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 Not the news I wanted to hear.
Rick 

On Sunday, January 5, 2020, 10:06:59 PM CST, Allan Fish 
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 Tony Spezio called me tonight.  He is currently in the hospital at 
Mountain Home.  He is suffering from congestive heart failure, massive 
urinary tract infection, pneumonia and his kidneys are failing.   He 
will be in the hospital several days then moved to the same nursing home 
that his wife Dot is in.

For those of you who haven't heard, Dot has suffered a massive stroke 
and can not talk.

I hate to say this but it doesn't look good at this point in time.

Allan

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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed

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 Ours are added.
Rick


Prayers needed, My wife Dot is in the hospital. She has been unresponsive for a 
couple of days.Arkansas Tony
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[VFB] list activity

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I think the biggest thing about this list and other bulletin boards also is 
that the younger generations are on Facebook, Twitter ect and older folks (like 
me) are on them to be in contact with family.
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[VFB] quote

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"Land of Wolves"  by Craig Johnson





"Fishing- precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of  
questionable knowledge."





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Re: [VFB] Digest for vfb-mail@googlegroups.com - 16 updates in 1 topic

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 I was a member for a short time before it died.
Rick

On Thursday, September 26, 2019, 12:57:12 PM CDT, Paul Marriner 
 wrote:  
 
 As best I can tell I'm the only present VFB member who remembers Fly Fishing 
World (circa 2002). Jimmy D and I were charter members and he designed a crest 
for the group. We corresponded privately on several subjects including 
Dyn-O-Mite, a sauce created by one of his friends. Jimmy shipped a bottle to me 
from Texas. He also sent me an engraved paperweight for my 2001 participation 
in what at the time was the longest-running VFB thread, "Furled & Braided 
Leaders." While we never had the pleasure of meeting face to face (although I 
tried to get to Sowbug once and then on to Texas), the sad news of his passing 
puts another mark in a column filling all too quickly.  RIP Jimmy.Paul Marriner
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|   Alan Di Somma : Sep 25 10:51AM -0500  

 It is with a very deeply saddened heart that I have to tell you that my good 
friend Jimmy passed away yesterday.
 
I am in Texas now and will be attending his funeral. I will appreciate it if 
you could all say a prayer for Jimmy and his wife Jody.
 
When I get more info I will pass it on.
 
 
phxflytyer
Phoenix,AZ
 
 
 "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government 
take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian."
Henry Ford
  |
|   Neville Gosling : Sep 25 09:04AM -0700  

 All the early members of VFB will remember Jimmy D.Moore just as we remember 
Byard’s pall Murph. 
I passed the sad news on to Don Ordes and this was his response
 
"So very sad. Prayers on the way."
 
Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver BC
 
 
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|   Anthony Spezio : Sep 25 05:10PM  

 Hate to hear this news.  Prayers for the family.
Arkansas Tony
 
 On Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 11:05:59 AM CDT, Neville Gosling 
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 All the early members of VFB will remember Jimmy D.Moore just as we remember 
Byard’s pall Murph. I passed the sad news on to Don Ordes and this was his 
response
"So very sad. Prayers on the way."
 
Neville (Nev) GoslingGreater Vancouver BC
 
 
On Sep 25, 2019, at 8:51 AM, Alan Di Somma  wrote:
 
It is with a very deeply saddened heart that I have to tell you that my good 
friend Jimmy  passed away yesterday.
I am in Texas now and will be attending his funeral. I will appreciate it if 
you could all say a prayer for Jimmy and his wife Jody.
When I get more info I will pass it on.
 
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|   Byard Miller : Sep 25 03:51PM -0400  

 Sad news indeed. I’ve enjoyed numerous phone conversations with Jimmy. He will 
be missed!
 
Sent from Byard's iPhone
 
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|   "Chuck Alexander" : Sep 25 03:15PM -0500  

 That is terrible news. I was just asking around about him a week or two ago as 
He hasn’t posted in quite a while.I know he’d been having health problems for 
quite some time. Jimmy was one of the many “old timers” on VFB who taught me to 
fly fish and fly tie yrs ago. Without these ppl I’d have gotten to depressed 
about not “getting it right” I’d have hung up my vise yrs ago as there is no 
trout etc around here, thus very few fly fishermen in the area to learn from 
“in person” so between ppl like Jimmy D., videos, and books that’s how I 
learned to tie and cast.
 
 
 
Speaking of David Murphy, I didn’t know him well as he passed away right after 
the first Sow Bug at the tender age of 50 I think. I also thing Murph is the 
one that about 15 of us got together and tied Chili peppers, put them in a 
memorial shadow box and sent one to Murphs wife and kids etc. I think we should 
do the same for Jimmy D’s family as well. If somebody van come up with the 
pattern, I’d be glad to meister such a swap unless somebody else would rather 
do that.
 
 
 
Anyway, let me know if you’d even be interested or not and I’ll go Saturday to 
my local Hobby Lobby and price the shadw boxes, postage etc ect and come up 
with a total price. I see this 8” by 10” sized one tha

Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Moore

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

 Might be a burlap nymph.  Would hav eto fin d mine.
Rick

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 3:32:20 PM CDT, Alan Di Somma 
 wrote:  
 
 Chuck:
You know I will be the first to join. If you are mastering the swap, please 
send the box to me as I visit him every time  I am in Texas..I would like to 
give the box to Jody personally.
I will get back to you as to Jimmy’s favorite fly.

phxflytyerPhoenix,AZ

 "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government 
take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian."
Henry Ford

On Sep 25, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Chuck Alexander  
wrote:
That is terrible news.  I was just asking  around about him a week or two ago 
as He hasn’t posted in quite a while.I know he’d been having health problems 
for quite some time.  Jimmy was one of the many “old timers” on VFB who taught 
me to fly fish and fly tie yrs ago. Without these ppl I’d have gotten to  
depressed about not “getting it right” I’d have hung up my vise yrs ago as 
there is no trout etc around here, thus very few fly fishermen in the area to 
learn from “in person” so between ppl like Jimmy D., videos, and books that’s 
how I learned to tie and cast.  Speaking of David Murphy, I didn’t know him 
well as he passed away right after the first Sow Bug at the tender age of 50 I 
think. I also thing Murph is the one that about 15 of us got together and tied 
Chili peppers, put them in a memorial shadow box and sent one to Murphs wife 
and kids etc. I think we should do the same for Jimmy D’s family as well. If 
somebody van come up with the pattern, I’d be glad to meister such a swap 
unless somebody else would rather do that.  Anyway, let me know if you’d even 
be interested or not and I’ll go Saturday to my local Hobby Lobby and price the 
shadw boxes, postage etc ect and come up with a total price.  I see this 8” by 
10” sized one that could hole up to about 20 flies or less for only $8.99 each, 
which mens that it should be within each ones budget as with shipping etc and 
the hooks etc $15 each, or less Chuck  
https://www.hobbylobby.com/Home-Decor-Frames/Frames-Photo-Albums/Shadow-Boxes-Display-Cases/Black-Thin-Line-Shadow-Box---8%22-x-10%22-/p/80652736
  From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail  
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To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Moore  Hate to hear this news.  Prayers for the 
family.Arkansas Tony  On Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 11:05:59 AM CDT, 
Neville Gosling  wrote:     All the early members of VFB 
will remember Jimmy D.Moore just as we remember Byard’s pall Murph. I passed 
the sad news on to Don Ordes and this was his response  
"So very sad. Prayers on the way."
Neville (Nev) GoslingGreater Vancouver BC    
On Sep 25, 2019, at 8:51 AM, Alan Di Somma  wrote:  
It is with a very deeply saddened heart that I have to tell you that my good 
friend Jimmy  passed away yesterday.  I am in Texas now and will be attending 
his funeral. I will appreciate it if you could all say a prayer for Jimmy and 
his wife Jody.  When I get more info I will pass it on.    phxflytyerPhoenix,AZ 
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Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Moore

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 Sorry to hear this. Have many good memories of him.
Rick


On Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 10:51:18 AM CDT, Alan Di Somma 
 wrote:  
 
 It is with a very deeply saddened heart that I have to tell you that my good 
friend Jimmy  passed away yesterday.
I am in Texas now and will be attending his funeral. I will appreciate it if 
you could all say a prayer for Jimmy and his wife Jody.
When I get more info I will pass it on.

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Re: [VFB] Jimi - Desert Eagle

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 Sorry to hear this.
Rick 

On Friday, September 6, 2019, 12:13:05 PM CDT, Rene Zillmann 
 wrote:  
 
 Flytyers,

many of you know Jimi, I met him twice at the Sowbug.

Found this sad news today.

https://www.westfuneralhomellc.com/obituary/james-genzling?fh_id=13587

May he rest in peace

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Re: [VFB] Wow... You folks are still posting to this forum

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 Once in a While.  Glad to see your name.
Rick 

On Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 1:33:13 PM CDT, byard  
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 I'm amazed! Hope this finds you all well.
keep tyin'...byard

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[VFB] From Rene

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today we got great news. Anna had a visit from the head physician (he is 
reporting on a regular basis), and he is very satisfied how the 2 girls are 
doing. We have still a very long road ahead of us, nobody expect that they will 
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Re: [VFB] What's everyone doing?

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

 No effect here. We are on the Missouri border on I-35.  Flooding is on each 
side of the state on the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers.
Rick 

On Thursday, June 27, 2019, 2:49:00 PM CDT, Phxflytyer  
wrote:  
 
 I’ve heard that there is a lot of rain and flooding going on there. Is that 
effecting you?


Sent from my iPad
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Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.


On Jun 27, 2019, at 8:26 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
 wrote:


 One of several that  fish.Used a black marabou leach on a jig head and a red 
springbrook wonder jig(estaz minnow with chickabou tail).  Many of the ponds 
are mud pits right now.

Ric k 

On Thursday, June 27, 2019, 9:36:03 AM CDT, Phxflytyer  
wrote:  
 
 Rick;Is this the same pond you always fish? What were you using?

Sent from my iPad
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On Jun 27, 2019, at 7:28 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
 wrote:


 Went out this am. Got 25 gills and two nice crappie. Tossed about 2 dozen bass 
back in .
Rick 

On Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 7:26:18 PM CDT, Phxflytyer 
 wrote:  
 
 Went fishing last Thursday and caught 7 and lost 8 or 9 more. My fishing 
partner landed 4 but caught 3 more that had an early release. All rainbows. The 
week before I only caught 2 or 3 and lost several more. But my partner landed 
5, and lost several more. Found out that the dropper that was tied onto the 
bend of the hook was causing the quick release. I am now tying the dropper to 
the eye of the lead hook.  Read an article in a fly fishing book talking about 
using a clear seed bead, and a tippet ring. Tie both on the tippet ring but one 
shorter then the other and it eliminates the hooks getting fouled together. 
Will try this as soon as I can find the two sizes of tippet rings I have. ( the 
mind is a terrible thing to loose). Will be going out next Tuesday. I will be 
fishing for Largemouth Bass as well as Trout. 


Sent from my iPad
Thank You,Alan Di SommaMesa, Az.
Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.


On Jun 26, 2019, at 5:04 PM, Ron Boutin  wrote:



Have had a lot of rain here in New York. It has affected the hatches but have 
had some decent days fishing the Delaware river system. Been doing some fly 
tying, getting ready for a fall trip in Wyoming..
Ron Boutin 

Sent from my iPad
On Jun 26, 2019, at 5:32 PM, Phxflytyer  wrote:



Nice fish Jack. 


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On Jun 26, 2019, at 1:08 PM, Jack Harford  wrote:


Lots of rain in Indiana. Just returned from a trip to Korea and Japan. South 
Korea stocked bass and bluegills years ago and they have flourished in many of 
their lakes and rivers. I keep a fly rod at my daughter's house for visits like 
this. Got out a couple of times (bass pic)Back Home Again in Indiana it has 
been mostly pond fishing for bluegills and the occasional bass. The rivers are 
starting to go down and may be fishable soon if we don't get more rain. 
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 3:41 PM Rene Zillmann  wrote:

  
Hi Gary,
 
slow list, indeed, but I'm slow as well.
 
Tying is slow, I'm too busy with family duties - family grows like crazy, 4 
grandchildren so far and 3 to surface until end of year.
 
I was out only once a week ago, with my oldest grandchild - thze boy is 3. So, 
we had some fun, did catch one small fish, and missed a 2nd one. The 
'productive' pattern was my blue parachute beetle. I did ty this one at the 
sowbug.
 
I hope, you folks had more time for fishing
 
Best
 
Rene
 
 

 
 
 On 06/17/2019 06:28 AM, Gary Webb wrote:
  
  Fishing reports?  New patterns you are tying?   
  Fishing here has not been too good.  We have had so much rain that the 
Mississippi by La Crosse, Wi just lifted the No Wake regulations that have been 
in place for a record 90 days.  Previous record was 46.  The trout streams are 
running a four times normal flow.  That seems to have caused the hatches to be 
off schedule.   Panfish spawning is affected too.  I have managed to catch a 
few fish.  But nothing is happening at the normal times. Part of the challenge, 
I guess.  A new (to me) fly I've tied is: Grillo's Hippie Stomper.   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4rilByk4hU  .  it was created for trout, but I 
know it works for Bass.  My son in law has a pond behind his back yard and has 
just started fly fishing.  i gave him two and he caught a nice three pound 
Smallmouth on one.  Probably will work for Panfish too.   Tuesday I'm scheduled 
to take two of my grandsons fishing.  We will go to a local pond and try for 
Bluegills. Normally this would be a guaranteed success.  But you never know.  
The last time I took them they wandered around the pond trying to catch frogs. 
They had a great time.  Which is the whole point.  I remember doing the same 
for crawdads when I was a kid in West Virginia.  
  Gary     
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Re: [VFB] What's everyone doing?

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

 One of several that  fish.Used a black marabou leach on a jig head and a red 
springbrook wonder jig(estaz minnow with chickabou tail).  Many of the ponds 
are mud pits right now.

Ric k 

On Thursday, June 27, 2019, 9:36:03 AM CDT, Phxflytyer  
wrote:  
 
 Rick;Is this the same pond you always fish? What were you using?

Sent from my iPad
Thank You,Alan Di SommaMesa, Az.
Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.


On Jun 27, 2019, at 7:28 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
 wrote:


 Went out this am. Got 25 gills and two nice crappie. Tossed about 2 dozen bass 
back in .
Rick 

On Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 7:26:18 PM CDT, Phxflytyer 
 wrote:  
 
 Went fishing last Thursday and caught 7 and lost 8 or 9 more. My fishing 
partner landed 4 but caught 3 more that had an early release. All rainbows. The 
week before I only caught 2 or 3 and lost several more. But my partner landed 
5, and lost several more. Found out that the dropper that was tied onto the 
bend of the hook was causing the quick release. I am now tying the dropper to 
the eye of the lead hook.  Read an article in a fly fishing book talking about 
using a clear seed bead, and a tippet ring. Tie both on the tippet ring but one 
shorter then the other and it eliminates the hooks getting fouled together. 
Will try this as soon as I can find the two sizes of tippet rings I have. ( the 
mind is a terrible thing to loose). Will be going out next Tuesday. I will be 
fishing for Largemouth Bass as well as Trout. 


Sent from my iPad
Thank You,Alan Di SommaMesa, Az.
Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.


On Jun 26, 2019, at 5:04 PM, Ron Boutin  wrote:



Have had a lot of rain here in New York. It has affected the hatches but have 
had some decent days fishing the Delaware river system. Been doing some fly 
tying, getting ready for a fall trip in Wyoming..
Ron Boutin 

Sent from my iPad
On Jun 26, 2019, at 5:32 PM, Phxflytyer  wrote:



Nice fish Jack. 


Sent from my iPad
Thank You,Alan Di SommaMesa, Az.
Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.


On Jun 26, 2019, at 1:08 PM, Jack Harford  wrote:


Lots of rain in Indiana. Just returned from a trip to Korea and Japan. South 
Korea stocked bass and bluegills years ago and they have flourished in many of 
their lakes and rivers. I keep a fly rod at my daughter's house for visits like 
this. Got out a couple of times (bass pic)Back Home Again in Indiana it has 
been mostly pond fishing for bluegills and the occasional bass. The rivers are 
starting to go down and may be fishable soon if we don't get more rain. 
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 3:41 PM Rene Zillmann  wrote:

  
Hi Gary,
 
slow list, indeed, but I'm slow as well.
 
Tying is slow, I'm too busy with family duties - family grows like crazy, 4 
grandchildren so far and 3 to surface until end of year.
 
I was out only once a week ago, with my oldest grandchild - thze boy is 3. So, 
we had some fun, did catch one small fish, and missed a 2nd one. The 
'productive' pattern was my blue parachute beetle. I did ty this one at the 
sowbug.
 
I hope, you folks had more time for fishing
 
Best
 
Rene
 
 

 
 
 On 06/17/2019 06:28 AM, Gary Webb wrote:
  
  Fishing reports?  New patterns you are tying?   
  Fishing here has not been too good.  We have had so much rain that the 
Mississippi by La Crosse, Wi just lifted the No Wake regulations that have been 
in place for a record 90 days.  Previous record was 46.  The trout streams are 
running a four times normal flow.  That seems to have caused the hatches to be 
off schedule.   Panfish spawning is affected too.  I have managed to catch a 
few fish.  But nothing is happening at the normal times. Part of the challenge, 
I guess.  A new (to me) fly I've tied is: Grillo's Hippie Stomper.   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4rilByk4hU  .  it was created for trout, but I 
know it works for Bass.  My son in law has a pond behind his back yard and has 
just started fly fishing.  i gave him two and he caught a nice three pound 
Smallmouth on one.  Probably will work for Panfish too.   Tuesday I'm scheduled 
to take two of my grandsons fishing.  We will go to a local pond and try for 
Bluegills. Normally this would be a guaranteed success.  But you never know.  
The last time I took them they wandered around the pond trying to catch frogs. 
They had a great time.  Which is the whole point.  I remember doing the same 
for crawdads when I was a kid in West Virginia.  
  Gary     
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Re: [VFB] What's everyone doing?

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 Went out this am. Got 25 gills and two nice crappie. Tossed about 2 dozen bass 
back in .
Rick 

On Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 7:26:18 PM CDT, Phxflytyer 
 wrote:  
 
 Went fishing last Thursday and caught 7 and lost 8 or 9 more. My fishing 
partner landed 4 but caught 3 more that had an early release. All rainbows. The 
week before I only caught 2 or 3 and lost several more. But my partner landed 
5, and lost several more. Found out that the dropper that was tied onto the 
bend of the hook was causing the quick release. I am now tying the dropper to 
the eye of the lead hook.  Read an article in a fly fishing book talking about 
using a clear seed bead, and a tippet ring. Tie both on the tippet ring but one 
shorter then the other and it eliminates the hooks getting fouled together. 
Will try this as soon as I can find the two sizes of tippet rings I have. ( the 
mind is a terrible thing to loose). Will be going out next Tuesday. I will be 
fishing for Largemouth Bass as well as Trout. 


Sent from my iPad
Thank You,Alan Di SommaMesa, Az.
Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.


On Jun 26, 2019, at 5:04 PM, Ron Boutin  wrote:



Have had a lot of rain here in New York. It has affected the hatches but have 
had some decent days fishing the Delaware river system. Been doing some fly 
tying, getting ready for a fall trip in Wyoming..
Ron Boutin 

Sent from my iPad
On Jun 26, 2019, at 5:32 PM, Phxflytyer  wrote:



Nice fish Jack. 


Sent from my iPad
Thank You,Alan Di SommaMesa, Az.
Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.


On Jun 26, 2019, at 1:08 PM, Jack Harford  wrote:


Lots of rain in Indiana. Just returned from a trip to Korea and Japan. South 
Korea stocked bass and bluegills years ago and they have flourished in many of 
their lakes and rivers. I keep a fly rod at my daughter's house for visits like 
this. Got out a couple of times (bass pic)Back Home Again in Indiana it has 
been mostly pond fishing for bluegills and the occasional bass. The rivers are 
starting to go down and may be fishable soon if we don't get more rain. 
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 3:41 PM Rene Zillmann  wrote:

  
Hi Gary,
 
slow list, indeed, but I'm slow as well.
 
Tying is slow, I'm too busy with family duties - family grows like crazy, 4 
grandchildren so far and 3 to surface until end of year.
 
I was out only once a week ago, with my oldest grandchild - thze boy is 3. So, 
we had some fun, did catch one small fish, and missed a 2nd one. The 
'productive' pattern was my blue parachute beetle. I did ty this one at the 
sowbug.
 
I hope, you folks had more time for fishing
 
Best
 
Rene
 
 

 
 
 On 06/17/2019 06:28 AM, Gary Webb wrote:
  
  Fishing reports?  New patterns you are tying?   
  Fishing here has not been too good.  We have had so much rain that the 
Mississippi by La Crosse, Wi just lifted the No Wake regulations that have been 
in place for a record 90 days.  Previous record was 46.  The trout streams are 
running a four times normal flow.  That seems to have caused the hatches to be 
off schedule.   Panfish spawning is affected too.  I have managed to catch a 
few fish.  But nothing is happening at the normal times. Part of the challenge, 
I guess.  A new (to me) fly I've tied is: Grillo's Hippie Stomper.   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4rilByk4hU  .  it was created for trout, but I 
know it works for Bass.  My son in law has a pond behind his back yard and has 
just started fly fishing.  i gave him two and he caught a nice three pound 
Smallmouth on one.  Probably will work for Panfish too.   Tuesday I'm scheduled 
to take two of my grandsons fishing.  We will go to a local pond and try for 
Bluegills. Normally this would be a guaranteed success.  But you never know.  
The last time I took them they wandered around the pond trying to catch frogs. 
They had a great time.  Which is the whole point.  I remember doing the same 
for crawdads when I was a kid in West Virginia.  
  Gary     
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Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info- one extra?

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

 Not inn a hurry. Want to see what you do.
Rick 

On Sunday, May 19, 2019, 3:05:06 PM CDT, DonO  wrote:  
 
 To all pink squirrel swappers. So sorry to make you wait so long. My hand is 
finally coming around to where I can tie once more. Tried a few times – awful 
and slow results. 2 min fly takes an hour plus.Very slow recovery from a couple 
of nightmare nerve pain medications – side effect almost killed me.But I Can 
finally hold the bobbin again, with the sleeves. The long-term is still 
questionable except for pain. But I am still trying. Trying a new therapy- 
promising results. Alan has offered to finish the swap for me, but I’d like to 
finish it, as it will probably be my last swap. Pl ease let me know what you 
want me to do. Regards,DonOFrom: Tony Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:06 PMTo: 
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info- 
one extra? Thanks you all, I feel humble.Tony
 On Sunday, January 27, 2019, 3:51:34 PM CST, Chuck Alexander 
 wrote:   
Sounds good to me, Chuck

 

From: 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail  
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:18 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info- one extra?

 

Or just not get one of our own back.

Rick

From: DonO 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info- one extra?

 

Hi Tony, nice to hear from you.  I figured you were busy with health issues and 
silent because you didn’t need another swap to stress you out.  So sorry about 
that.  Thanks for the info and for being around for us. Sure hope you’ve gotten 
ahead of this new problem in time. Will keep you in my prayers.

 

I can maybe send you a group of extra PSQN flies if that would work for you.  
I’ll bet the guys won’t have a problem tying one more for you.

 

Eh Guys, 19 instead of 18?  One for the Tiger?

 

DonO

 

 

From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:07 PM

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info

 

Been following this. Wish I was able to  do it. Right now I am too tied up with 
doctors.

Have therapists and nurses that are here every day of the week for therapy and 
to bandage wounds that have now appeared on my other foot. That is the same as 
started on my left foot that lead to amputation. 

Arkansas Tony

 

On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 3:32:40 PM CST, Chuck Alexander 
 wrote: 

 

 

Don: Look at bright side. As long as I’m in the swap, the worst you could do is 
second to last LOL. Seriously, hope to rope dub mine, Chuck

 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of DonO
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:32 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info

 

Welcome all to the fly swap and thank you.  

I will do my best on my batch and hopefully I can tie something worthy to toss 
at fish.

 

Hope to create & post a fly plate photo when done.

 

Cheers,

Don

 

From: DonO 

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 1:00 PM

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info

 

Mail flies to: 14505 N. Presidio Loop, Nampa ID 83651

SASE or equal. Add toe-tags. 

Don

 

From: DonO 

Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 8:48 PM

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Subject: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap- Final Swapper List etc.

 

Not too late Donna- you’re spot #18.   ;o)

See list below.

 

Since VFB traffic is not an issue nowadays, do y’all want to keep swap 
correspondence on list, or take it off.  All posts for the swap will have the 
subject line PSQN SWAP.

 

So we have 18 flies due by Feb. 28th.  Does that work?  Can submit extras or 
design efforts for charitable donations.

 

Rest of details to follow shortly.

 

Don

 

 

From: Donna Crowell 

Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 7:34 PM

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

 

Is it to late to sigh up ? 

 

 Donna…...

 

On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 7:51 PM ladyflytyer  wrote:


Oh good I made the swap.
   
 
   
Peggy
   
 
   
 
   
 

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S
  


 Original message 
From: DonO  
Date: 1/25/19 4:55 PM (GMT-06:00) 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph 
 
Thanks Jack. 
   
 

From: DonO 
 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 1:04 PM
   
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
   
Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph
   
 
  
 
 
Thanks to all who have signed up.  IOFFers rule!  

Just a 2 more as we’ll have the 18 we need. If I missed you, please let me know.
  
 

Tiers:   (re-updated as of 1/24 am)

   
1.  Rick Zieger
   
2.  Allan Fish
   
3.  Neville Gosling
   
4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auct

Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

Take care of yourself first Don.
Rick 

  From: J Balmer 
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 Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 9:40 AM
 Subject: RE: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15
   
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weekend.  J  From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Ron Boutin
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:26 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15  Don, good to hear that you 
are doing somewhat better. The nerve pain you are dealing with can be very 
difficult. Don’t worry about the swap, just take care of yourself.  RonSent 
from my iPad
On Mar 15, 2019, at 5:02 PM, DonO  wrote:
Hi Gary and all swappers, I’m still here battling to come back from the stroke. 
Found recently that my debilitating pain is called Degerne-Roussy Syndrome  or 
“post-stroke central pain syndrome.” Also called thalamic stroke pain syndrome. 
Long story short, the pain meds have failed and left me worse off with the pain 
plus the side effects- which are themselves terrible. So for the last 3 months 
I’ve been battling back to see what’s going to be my life. I am just able to 
get back to my fly room after 3 months out of commission. I’m doing plenty good 
health-wise- it’s just the pain issues are out of hand. The pain gets so bad I 
can’t use my right hand even though it can do some things. It also effects my 
right leg that way. So now I head to the bench to sort, divide, and repackage 
18 sets of flies, plus tie my set.   I’ll give an update after my first flies.  
I believe I’m waiting for one set to arrive. If my hand works, it shouldn’t 
take very long. If it’s all gone from the pain, I have a fall-back plan or two. 
Cheers, DonO  Subject: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update? Don,  actually I just 
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Re: [VFB] hooks

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Take care my Friend.
Rick

  From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
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 Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 9:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [VFB] hooks
   
 Out of the hospital yesterday, bad day today.Tony

On Sunday, March 10, 2019, 3:50:30 PM CDT, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
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  Scored on some Mustad 38932 and 541 hooks for $5.00 /100 in old boxes. Now to 
debarb them.
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[VFB] hooks

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 Scored on some Mustad 38932 and 541 hooks for $5.00 /100 in old boxes. Now to 
debarb them.
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[VFB] correct wally wing link

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  https://youtu.be/ZRSbJG294jI
Sorry for the earlier mistake.
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[VFB] Wally wing tool

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  Got the wrong video.  Will try to get the right one later today.
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[VFB] wally wing tool

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  ran onto this on the net.

https://youtu.be/kKOTqJDJBFE
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Re: [VFB] Beads Hobby Lobby

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What is the item number?  Thanks
Rick 

  From: Gary Webb 
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 Subject: [VFB] Beads Hobby Lobby
   
The other day I bought a packet of "Metalic" beads at Hobby Lobby.  This pkg 
had 250 beads and cost me less than $4.00.  They have gold, silver, copper, and 
black in different sizes.  They aren't tungsten, and I believe they are hollow 
not solid.  So if you use beads for weight these may notbe for you.  When they 
are on the hook the fly looks as good as the beads you pay $5.00 for 
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[VFB] Scott Bearden

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 Have a Happy Birthday.
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Re: AW: [VFB] Sign-up list update 1-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

Don O is meistering. Do a Pinbk squirell fly.
Rick

  From: "haerb...@comcast.net" 
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 Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: AW: [VFB] Sign-up list update 1-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel 
Nymph
   
 What is this swap about?  Who is hosting?  What are we tying?BobH
On January 19, 2019 at 3:09 PM rene.zillm...@t-onlne.de wrote: 
 
Hi Don, Sure, 100 tiers.R
Gesendet mit meinem HTC
- Nachricht beantworten - 
Von: "DonO"  
An:  
Betreff: [VFB] Sign-up list update 1-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph 
Datum: Sa., Jan. 19, 2019 20:12
This is filling pretty quick.Does anyone have a cut-off point, how many tiers 
max?(The PSQN is a simple pattern, so tying a few extra should do your arsenal 
well.) I’m still working on holding on to a fly rod without being able to feel 
it in my hand.  Good side of that- cheap fly rods ‘feel’ just like high dollar 
ones.  I’m going to make a lanyard to attach the rod handle butt end to my 
wrist. 
 Tiers:   (as of 1/19 am) 1.  Rick Zieger2.  Allan Fish3.  Neville Gosling4.  
Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)5.  Don Ordes6.  Renr 
Zillman7.  Gary Webb  *18.  J Balmer9.10. *1  I did that ‘drinks’ swap (I may 
have had a helper- hard to remember details of events).  I’ll see if I can pull 
them out of my swap collection box, locate your PSQN, post a photo.  I tied a 
Cherry Fizz, which was a giant red salmon egg with a fuse (for explosive 
strikes). Thanks Gary for the walk down memory lane.  (I may be down to a cane 
pole while sitting on a lawn chair on a dock, Tenkara-styling it. But a PSQN 
would be a good choice then.) *2. I was thinking a light jig-style hook pattern 
for deeper water, too.  (Tenkara approach)  A dark pink or red bead could 
also serve as the yolk of a hot pink egg collar.  DonOFrom: DonOSent: 
Friday, January 18, 2019 3:14 PMTo: vfb-mail@googlegroups.comSubject: [VFB] 1st 
Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph  Howdy All, I am still in stroke recovery, but 
able to do more all the time- just need to keep my energy up. I found an 
interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate for a swap.  
It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it and have 
probably fished it. If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish 
like this pattern! Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers) 1.  Role call for who’s still here- 
swapping or not.2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and 
much-liked pattern.3.  Lots of photos on a search of images4.  Broad range of 
quarry fish5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose 6. 
 Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary7.  Gray body (your 
choice of dubbing), pink collar (any material suited for a collar per the photo 
archives)8.  Gold or silver bead9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic 
pattern 10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap11.  Standard swap rules 
apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) or Cash for return of flies. 
Recipes not needed unless you did something special. (Story?)  Any extra flies 
will be donated to good charity.  Will post a photo of all designs. Google 
images should pick it up. All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous 
even), lots of variations with a common theme. Any VFB swappers left? Will give 
it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in. Maybe we’ll have a 
good-ol’ days VFB Swap. Cheers,DonO
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Re: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

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I will jump in.
Rick 

  From: DonO 
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 Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 4:14 PM
 Subject: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph
   
  Howdy All, I am still 
in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need to keep my 
energy up. I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good 
candidate for a swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware 
of it and have probably fished it. If you have fished it, a story can be added. 
 Even crawfish like this pattern! Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers) 1.  Role call for 
who’s still here- swapping or not.2.  List of those interested in swapping this 
easy and much-liked pattern.3.  Lots of photos on a search of images4.  Broad 
range of quarry fish5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you 
choose 6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary7.  Gray body 
(your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any material suited for a collar per the 
photo archives)8.  Gold or silver bead9.  Any customization in keeping with the 
basic pattern 10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap11.  Standard swap 
rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) or Cash for return of 
flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something special. (Story?)  Any extra 
flies will be donated to good charity.  Will post a photo of all designs. 
Google images should pick it up. All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly 
(famous even), lots of variations with a common theme. Any VFB swappers left? 
Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in. Maybe we’ll 
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[VFB] Happy Birthday

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 Wayne Blake-Hedges has completed another pass in the orbit of the earth. Have 
a good one.
Rick 

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[VFB] off the vice the last few days

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 A few warmwater flies.

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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

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Bright green abdomen, soft hackle, Peacock thorax.  bead head

  From: Rene Zillmann 
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 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:12 PM
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 Hi Rick, maybe I lost the post, but can you share the pattern for the Dr. Mike 
Thx
  Rene
  
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  Dr. Mike in yellow, white and red for my box. 
  Rick  
 
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   Wet flies with peacock, turkey, and soft hackle  
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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

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Dr. Mike in yellow, white and red for my box.
Rick 

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Wet flies with peacock, turkey, and soft hackle 
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Re: [VFB] Test

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Just receiving.Rick 

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Just Testing...

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Re: [VFB] Hi Guys. Long time no post. :)

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Good to hear from you.
Rick 

  
Hi Guys,I can't remember ever using this forum but I'm testing it out to see if 
this post comes through. I took a very long break from tying publicly, I 
stepped back from the Whting team to work on my degree. A few of you were so 
encouraging and supportive of me while I worked my way through school. THANK 
YOU!!!  I still tie for my own fishing and fun but not as much as I would like 
to. I'm in a different pond now than I was used to so I'm adjusting to that 
also. I miss the salt water. I spend more time tying Hans CDC Elk hair caddis 
flies and timy trout flies... WOW what a change for me.  I finally have a new 
desk to set up and hopefully make a more comfortable place to tie for my self 
than out of boxes. I wanted to reach out and see how Don O was doing. He's been 
on my mind.  I've kept in touch with a few of you but I have stepped very far 
back from public tying while I put myself through school and joined the working 
world. Now I finally have some time for myself again and I have been thinking 
about so many of my friends that I haven't been able to keep in touch with as 
much as I would like to .For those of you who knew me you will remember me as 
Deb Duran. I hope all of you are well. Tony, I still love my froggies!!! I have 
read some updates on you and I hope all is going well for you this holiday.I've 
never lost touch with Peggy and I look forward to seeing you and Jerry this 
spring again.Now with any luck this will post. Happy Holidays to you all.Best, 
Deb Neuwirth

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[VFB] Birthday wishes

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 Pete Gramp hits the birthday list today.Have a Happy One.
Rick 

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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

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Weird hares ear. 
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Re: [VFB] Out of hospital, and now looking for fly patterns

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A PTN with a flash back the whole length of the fly. Also vary it with ostrich 
herl in place of peacock herl.Rick 

  From: Pete Gramp 
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 Subject: [VFB] Out of hospital, and now looking for fly patterns
   
So my not-so-brilliant body decided it would play a trick on me and would 
suddenly go into what the hospital staff called "DKA" - Diabetic ketoacidosis - 
which essentially means that while the blood sugar levels of a "normal" person 
are in the 70 to 100 range, mine were 1085 when I was admitted to the hospital 
and rushed immediately to the Emergency Room and then passed to the Intensive 
Care Unit.  Two weeks later, and 43 pounds lighter (supposedly from my organs 
eating themselves, and the muscles around them, and not from fat loss), I was 
discharged from the hospital and told I'm now a diabetic in the "severely 
diabetic" category with blood sugar levels still in the upper 200's to lower 
300's.  Still on short term disability and off work, until they get my blood 
sugars back down in the more "normal" range.  
Biggest pain in the neck, besides my general weakness, is that my eyesight 
comes and goes with the blood sugar levels.  I'm told this will get back to 
normal when my blood sugar levels return back to more reasonable levels, but 
for the time being, I am struggling with tying anything smaller than size 12.  
and to be honest, size 12 is kind of a challenge too, but I refuse to go much 
larger than that.  
Does anyone have any relatively simple fly patterns that they could send me 
off-list for some size 12 flies (dries or nymphs preferred please, as I have 
plenty of soft hackles and streamers and I don't have much opportunity for use 
of salt or salmon and my eyes aren't up for traditional wets or full dressed 
atlantic salmon or spey, etc.)?  I'm not looking for the simplicity of a san 
juan worm, but then again, I'm not much better than that with my eyesight right 
now... perhaps it is wishful thinking that I say I wish for something a bit 
more complex than that... but I desire a challenge.
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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

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Bright green dubbing for abdomen.  Soft hackle. Then peacock herl for thorax.  
Bead head. 

  From: Joyce M Westphal 
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Need to know the pattern for Dr. Mikes. Currently tying my variation of 
Carson/Corrib flies. Joyce
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:15 PM Allan Fish  wrote:

Rene,

I'm going to sort through many years of fly swaps and see if even need 
to tie anything. :-)

My winter projects are doing some woodburning, getting rid of a lot of 
'stuff' that  has accumulated over the years, and digitizing several 
thousand Kodachrome/Ektachrome slides (if they're not already badly faded).

Allan

On 11/2/18 4:13 PM, Rene Zillmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> winter is approaching - at least in the northern part of the globe.
>
> What are you doing to tie next?
>
> I'll do 2 main things:
>
> I will ty a lot of my parachute beetles, but with different body 
> colors, to the the effect of the various colors next year.
>
> And I'll do some variations for EHCs for a similar reason.
>
> And what are you doing?
>
>
> Rene
>


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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

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Tying Dr. Mikes for donations.  Then pan fish bitch creek, followed by furled 
tail leeches.
Rick 

  From: Rene Zillmann 
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 Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 3:13 PM
 Subject: [VFB] What is in your vices?
   
Hi,

winter is approaching - at least in the northern part of the globe.

What are you doing to tie next?

I'll do 2 main things:

I will ty a lot of my parachute beetles, but with different body colors, 
to the the effect of the various colors next year.

And I'll do some variations for EHCs for a similar reason.

And what are you doing?


Rene

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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

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Glad you are home. Take care.
Rick 

  From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
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 Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 7:54 AM
 Subject: Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio
   
 Got more last night amd this morning. Changed password.Tony
On Sunday, October 7, 2018, 8:16:38 PM CDT, Neville Gosling 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi Tony:
I am getting them too. I think there is a scam in operation.
neville

On Oct 7, 2018, at 17:25, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
 wrote:
 I am doing well but as i said I have to learn to do some things different. I 
am not able to get in the shop yet to do any rod work but I plan of getting 
back to it as soon as I can.BTW, got a load of friend requests today asking to 
fwd to all my friends. DO NOT ACCEPT ANY FRIEND REQUESTS FROM ME ON 
FACEBOOK.Tony
On Saturday, October 6, 2018, 8:49:55 PM CDT, Neville Gosling 
 wrote:  
 
 Hey DonO

It is great that Tony is finally home, but we haven’t heard much about how you 
are doing. I hope very well.
Neville (Nev) Gosling

On Aug 7, 2018, at 21:32, DonO  wrote:
thank, Allan- card on the way.Don From: Allan FishSent: Tuesday, August 07, 
2018 9:00 PMTo: rodmak...@goldrush.com ; VFBSubject: [VFB] Tony Spezio FYI, 
Tony has finally gotten out of the hospital after having a toe and part of his 
foot removed.

Tony is now in a nursing home for rehab.  He doesn't feel like having phone 
calls at this time, but would welcome cards and letters addressed to him at:

    Tony Spezio
    Twin Lakes Therapy and Living
6152 AR-202
    Flippin, AR 72634 


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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio update

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Good to hear.
Rick 

  From: 'Everett Hall' via VFB Mail 
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Thanks for the good news Allan. Hope he continues to improve. Buck Hall Celina, 
OH e.hal...@yahoo.com Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. 
Leave the rest to God. 

On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:38 PM, Allan Fish  
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 I just got a call from Tony.  He called Sunday and said that he felt 
like the walls are closing in on him.  He has not been home for 3 
months.  But today they told him he can go home a week from tomorrow.  
He is really excited.

Allan

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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio update

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from the SowBug facebook page yesterday.Saw Tony Spezieo late this afternoon, 
and he was doing great! He is is good spirits, and extremely positive..he 
said " I've got two rods to finish!" His ...son Bob said they will move his 
bench upstairs and cut it down to a height that he can get along with when he 
gets home. The steward brought his dinner in about 5:30, but Tony opted to have 
it taken to the dining room so he could dine with the other residents. All in 
all, I was very pleased with how he is doing at that point in time...continue 
to keep him in your prayers!

  From: Neville Gosling 
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 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio update
   
Is there any update on Tony since Aug 20?
Neville Gosling

On Aug 20, 2018, at 07:21, Scott Bearden  wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am cross posting this from bamboo rodmakers list from yesterday. Keep Tony in 
your prayers:
"Texted with Gina this morning, and Tony has had surgery. Originally were going 
to take a toe but complications required the surgeons to take his lower leg up 
to mid-shin. Gina reports his vitals are stable as of 10:42 MST today, 8/19/18.

-Don Smith"
Regards,
Scott

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Re: [VFB] Iowa State Fair

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No the body is from a dubbing brush.
Rick 

  From: Phxflytyer 
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 Subject: Re: [VFB] Iowa State Fair
   
That fly should be a killer. Did you rope dub the body?


Sent from my iPad
Thank You,Alan Di SommaMesa, Az.
Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.


On Aug 24, 2018, at 2:59 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:


 On 8/24/18 3:55 PM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
  
  bright green star burst dubbin from the Flytyers Dungeon.  Like ice dubbing. 
you got one at Sowbug. 
  Rick  
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: [VFB] Iowa State Fair

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bright green star burst dubbin from the Flytyers Dungeon.  Like ice dubbing.you 
got one at Sowbug.
Rick 

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 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 10:58 AM
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 On 8/24/18 11:21 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
  
 
 Here is a picture of the Dr. Mike. Purple haze is basically a purple Adams.  
 Neat!  
 
 What's the body material?  SLF?
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Re: [VFB] Iowa State Fair

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Here is a picture of the Dr. Mike. Purple haze is basically a purple Adams.
Rick 

  From: Michael Bliss 
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yes, congratulations but where is the pic of the fly?
Mike
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 8:28 AM 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
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 The Iowa State Fair has  a flytying contest sponsored by the Hawkeye 
FlyFishers.Got second place in the open division and third in the dry fly 
division.  Entered as Kevin Slater won a few things last year.
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[VFB] Iowa State Fair

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 The Iowa State Fair has  a flytying contest sponsored by the Hawkeye 
FlyFishers.Got second place in the open division and third in the dry fly 
division.  Entered as Kevin Slater won a few things last year.
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio update

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Thanks for the info.
Rick

  From: Scott Bearden 
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 Subject: [VFB] Tony Spezio update
   
Hi everyone,
I am cross posting this from bamboo rodmakers list from yesterday. Keep Tony in 
your prayers:
"Texted with Gina this morning, and Tony has had surgery. Originally were going 
to take a toe but complications required the surgeons to take his lower leg up 
to mid-shin. Gina reports his vitals are stable as of 10:42 MST today, 8/19/18.

-Don Smith"
Regards,
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Re: [VFB] new mouse - Percy

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Glad to hear this.  You still do better deer hair than I do.Rick 

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To my friends at the VFB - an update and some good news.

My recovery from the stroke is going very well and quickly.  Feeling a 
little better each day, but it still feels like  I was rode hard and put up 
wet.

I have 'issues' with the entire right side of my body, but therapy has given 
me limited use of the affected areas.
I have progressed to a cane for walking, but I'm nowhere mobile yet.
My eyesight will take time, but I'm told it will recover- hopefully back to 
normal. No hope of tying a #32 RC right now.  40% blind (the right side of 
each eye gone).

So that leaves my right hand- the real meat of this memo.

I decided to challenge it and myself by tying a mouse pattern as my first 
try.  A 1-hour tie took over 20 hours- lost track of time.  Just threading 
the bobbin took an hour (spastic muscles with no feeling), tying an anchor 
took 2 hours. You get the picture- not pretty.
But out of it crawled Percy (for 'perseverance').  He's not too tightly 
wrapped, but that applies to the tier also. But he looks good for a Baits 
Hotel resident.

Joyce knows what this fly represent in stroke therapy just 3 months in.

Next- rope dubbing.

Working on my fly casting also. Not pretty either. Neither is my penmanship.

But I did manage to draw a fly if anyone wants to see my 'Picasso'.

Regards, Don



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Re: [VFB] Rocky Mountains Trip -- Rene -- Part II

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Glad you had fun.
Rick 

  From: Rene Zillmann 
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 9:45 AM
 Subject: [VFB] Rocky Mountains Trip -- Rene -- Part II
   
List,

part 2 now, no fish

Our next stop was north of Valemount, Tete Jaune Lodge Campground. A 
nice, really nice site. Located on the Frazer river, excellent service, 
best washroom I've seen. Fast running river, could not wade.. Tried to 
fish the river from the campground, difficult to cast due to trees and 
bushes. We tried some olive bugger, Klinkhammer without success. 
However, on the opposite side we have seen an easy access and also some 
gavel banks. But we could not test it. Excellent dinner in the 
restaurant on the campground.

The next stop was on the Lucerne campground in the Mt. Robson Park, 
'close' to Jasper. Only basic service there, just some outhouses, and a 
ticker with well water - do not drink - at the entry. However, we have 
been prepared, so we had the freshwater tanks in our RVs full, and the 
black/grey tanks empty..

Great scenery, the Yellowhead lake is a gem, and might hold some large 
trout. But some people swimming in it. We tried it later with some 
bugger, but no success. On the 2nd day we found a further, really nice 
spot, some deep holes. But, wile looking around we did see some 
tracks with long claws, we were sure 1 hour ago some bears had been 
there. Strange feeling We finished fishing not much later and for 
some odd reasons we refused to return to the spot later on the evening. 
I'm used to be at the end of the food chain, not somewhere in the middle.

On the next day my BC license did expire.

That's the end of the story, as mentioned, we didn't catch any more fish 
- but had an exciting time there. The remaining days brought us back to 
Vancouver, some more nice campgrounds, a great evening in Vancouver and 
a very comfortable flight back.

Rene




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Re: [VFB] German Tourist Shot

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Thanks or the udate3.  Don't like the sound of this.
Rick

  From: Neville Gosling 
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 Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 11:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [VFB] German Tourist Shot
   
I don’t like the look of this. The description could be Rene, his wife, son and 
son’s girlfriend. An arrest has been made but injured tourist not named.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/surgery-german-tourist-shot-in-head-1.4773260?cmp=news-digests-canada-and-world-morning
Neville


On Aug 3, 2018, at 22:17, Neville Gosling  wrote:
Yesterdaya German tourist travelling with his family on Highway 1A near Morley, 
Albertaand heading to the Rocky Mountains was shot in the head.  Apparently 
thiswas a case of mistaken identity and he was not the intended target of 
theshooting. So far the exact reason or motive has not been disclosed and the 
perpetratorhas not been apprehended.. This is certainly very unusual but Canada 
has aproblem with handguns coming into the country illegally from USA. The name 
ofthe tourist has not been released but reported to have received surgery 
toremove the bullet and is in critical but stable condition. I sure hope 
itwasn’t Rene and his family. Chances are likely that it is not, but it 
doescoincide with his planned trip.  
Neville(Nev) GoslingBritish ColumbiaCanada


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Re: [VFB] Bad news and Great news.

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Better than what I thought I might read.
Rick
On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 2:41 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

Tony Spezio called me today.  His bad news was that he had to have a toe 
amputated on Saturday.

His great news was that the surgeon felt the foot did not need to be amputated.

He is still in the hospital at the moment.

Allan

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Re: [VFB] Update

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 Not the news I wanted to hear.  Take care my Friend.
Rick

On ‎Saturday‎, ‎July‎ ‎21‎, ‎2018‎ ‎01‎:‎43‎:‎05‎ ‎PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via 
VFB Mail  wrote:  
 
 Was taken to the Wound Center yesterday to see my foot doctor.I am not happy 
with he had to tell me. Not enough blood circulation to save the foot. The 
surgery will be done when my kidneys are stable enough for the surgery. I 
personally am not ready for this.Arkansas Tony


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Re: [VFB] Don Ordes

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 Good to see.
Rick 

On ‎Friday‎, ‎June‎ ‎29‎, ‎2018‎ ‎12‎:‎36‎:‎39‎ ‎PM, Phxflytyer 
 wrote:  
 
 Just wanted to let you see the kind of progress Don O is making. Don’t ever 
let the smallest of things go unnoticed? 

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Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
Mesa, Az.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.


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[VFB] Byard Miller Birthday

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It is our fearless leaders birthday today. Have a Happy one my Friend.
Rick 

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Re: [VFB] PRogress from Don Ordes

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 Good to hear from you.  Hope things continue to progress for you.
Rick 

On ‎Friday‎, ‎May‎ ‎25‎, ‎2018‎ ‎01‎:‎08‎:‎41‎ ‎PM, DonO <f...@tribcsp.com> 
wrote:  
 
 To all my friends on vfb..  THANKS FOR ALL OFF YOUR PRAYERS AND WELL WISHES.

it's me, well, a good part of me anyway.
The stroke hit my right half (left side of brain) so lost all movement and 
feeling on right side of my body.
also lost the vision on right side of both eyes.
so I'm typing with left hand with a small arc of vision.  This is my 1st 
email work since stroke.

I've been home two weeks now and am progressing with therapy and recovery 
very well according to therapists.
Using my right hand for some things, but still have no feeling, which is 
weird.
I am doing some walking therapy, but again no feeling.  Hope all feeling 
comes back with time.

Still have appt. with eye doctor next week. Hope he can do something.
Don't know about the numbness in my face, will have to check later- big 
fallout
of that is drooling at times, and then the constant numbness..

Had to sell the new home we just bought to get a single level.  All went 
amazingly fast and well. Will post new address soon.

Can't tell you how much of a blessing it is to have a fantastic wife who 
stepped up to the plate as hit nothing but homers since that night.  My 
incredible sister came up from Mesa as has been an a incredible helper for 
both Cheryl and me.

Alan DiSomma is due here Sunday and we will be discussing my fly business 
and what of mine to sell. Plus we'll discuss fate of video projects.

All input is welcome.  Have no idea on what I'll recover after time, but I 
have a lot to get sold to simplify and cover meds.

Well, at the limit of my endurance for now.  Took over an hour for this 5 
minute email.

As you can imagine, I have a lot of recovery time on my hands, so reading 
emails from my friends would be much appreciated and great for my mental 
therapy.  Hope you are all having wonderful summers.

Very Best Regards,
Don





-Original Message- 
From: Neville Gosling
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 12:05 PM
To: VFB
Subject: Re: [VFB] Don Ordes

This is a real blow after he was looking so good following loosing weight, 
but time heals and lets pray that he recovers as fully as possible.
I have a friend in my fishing club that also suffered a stroke that was 
followed my more strokes and it came as a complete shock to everybody. He 
like Don is still in hospital.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
BC Canada



On May 1, 2018, at 10:58 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
<vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:

In my prayers
Arkansas Tony

On Tue, 5/1/18,  <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:

Subject: RE: [VFB] Don Ordes
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 12:47 PM

Hello to everyone, this is his
son, Donny.

Thank you so
much for all the kind well wishes and words. I was able to
open Don's email and we read all of your messages to
him, as he is unable to read much.  He asked me to thank
everyone and to say hello.

He is still recovering in the therapy unit of
St. Al's hospital in Boise. When he had the stroke he
lost the use of the right side of his body. So his arm and
hand, leg, and even his vision on the right half of his body
were all affected (he can see out of both eyes, but only
from his nose to his left side). Unfortunately he is right
handed, so using his left hand for everything is also
difficult by itself.

However, he is steadily making progress in his
recovery and has regained the ability to move his limbs and
use them to some extent. He still requires a great deal of
assistance to get up and move, but the therapists are
optimistic that he will continue to improve. Only time will
tell how much capability he will recover. He is scheduled to
be released from the hospital to go home this Thursday, but
we will continue with having therapists come in to work with
him to help with his rehab.

Again, thank you all  for your kind words and
support, I will continue to monitor his emails and forward
your thoughts and questions to him.

Thank you.

DVO


-Original Message-
From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
<vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Rene Zillmann
Sent: Tuesday,
May 1, 2018 8:58 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Don Ordes

All,

are there any updates on Don?

KR

Rene


On 04/23/2018 03:44 AM, Phxflytyer wrote:
> Fellow VFB’ers..
>
> About two weeks ago
Don Ordes had a stroke.
> He finished the
Wasatch show and was preparing to go home on Sunday.
> Sometime Saturday evening or Sunday
morning he had a stroke.
> Was in ECU for
a week and his son came and drove him home.
> He is going thru physical therapy now back
in Idaho.
>
> It would
be great if anyone could find the time to send him a get
well email?
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di
Somma
> Mesa, Az.
>
> Some mistakes a

Re: [VFB] Don Ordes

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

 Thanks for the info.  Good to hear.
Rick 

On ‎Monday‎, ‎May‎ ‎07‎, ‎2018‎ ‎05‎:‎10‎:‎50‎ ‎PM, Phxflytyer 
<phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:  
 
 I had a nice long conversation with Don Saturday evening. 
He was much more talkative  and his speech was much clearer. He is still is 
having an issue with his vision, but it has improved and will be seeing a 
specialist soon. 
He has not been able to read posts or answer them. He is still having some 
difficulty with the right side of his body but it is improving. 

I will be driving to Idaho to visit him in a few weeks. I will let you all know 
what happens. 


Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
Mesa, Az.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



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[VFB] Happy Birthday Chuck A

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Glad you made another trip around the sun. Hope for many more good ones.
Rick 

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[VFB] Bugger swap

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The gnomes finally delivered a great envelope to me today.Thagks to the meister 
and the good tyers.



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Re: [VFB] Jig Hooks

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 I have used them in the ponds around here.  Most on 60 degree hooks with 
slotted beads.  I like them as I don't get hung up as much.
Rick 

On ‎Wednesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎21‎, ‎2018‎ ‎04‎:‎31‎:‎27‎ ‎PM, 'Anthony 
Spezio' via VFB Mail <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:  
 
 Jig hook flies are very popular here in Arkansas. I have tyed a number of 
them. One tyer in our group would fish nothing but them. He has passed on now.
Tony

On Wed, 2/21/18, Wes Wada <w...@wadaworks.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [VFB] Jig Hooks
 To: "VFB Mail" <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 3:32 PM
 
 
 
 ​Hi Jerry and
 Neville,
 Thanks so much for your
 replies.  Yes, I did mean "balanced" rather than
 suspended. There is some popularity for that pattern here in
 Oregon and northern California.  
 Good
 to hear that there is really no difference in effectiveness
 of the hooks (using different extension angles) when you
 suspending the pattern below and indicator.
 Here's a sample of a
 balanced version of one of my flies Bastardo Bugger as tied
 by a friend.
 ​
 I
 think what I need to do to improve hooking qualities are to
 move the angled hookeye as far forward as possible, use at
 least a tungsten bead, and also to use a wider gape hook,
 like Neville suggested.  
 These balanced patterns are
 definitely not my favorite way to tie, but they do merit a
 place in the flybox. At least *until further
 notice*.
 Thanks again,Wes
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [VFB] Happy New Year

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

 We hit -19 last night. Maybe -14 tonight.
Rick 

On ‎Monday‎, ‎January‎ ‎01‎, ‎2018‎ ‎11‎:‎48‎:‎36‎ ‎AM, Allan Fish 
<afi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:  
 
 On 1/1/18 12:36 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail wrote:
> Same to all, just 7 degrees last night  and -7 tonight. Ah the weather in 
> Arkansas is great. LOL
> A big HAPPY NEW YEAR to all.
> Arkansas Tony

Time to break out your fur-lined whatevers.   They're now saying it will 
be -14° here tonight.

Okay, we've had Christmas and New Years.  Now get that white stuff off 
the ground and let's have some warm summer weather!

If I haven't already said it here, HAPPY NEW YEAR!
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[VFB] Happy New Year

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Have a Happy New Year from the cold state of Iowa. Blessing in the New Year to 
all of you and yours.
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Re: [VFB] Late 2017 swap intro

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I will join doing a purple one.
Rick 


From: DonO <f...@tribcsp.com>To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com" 
<vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎August‎ ‎29‎, ‎2017‎ 
‎10‎:‎10‎:‎06‎ ‎AMSubject: [VFB] Late 2017 swap intro
Anyone up for a November or Dec. fly swap? (after the season is over) 

I have an idea for 10 tiers.  Tie an easy fly design that I give- a rope-dub 
bugger pattern, and each swapper ties one color of it 10 times. (I’ll post a 
collage of a wide range of styles)

Each color can be a different size and embellished with flash, eyes, cones- 
whatever, but the bugger basic style must be maintained.  Since there are 
combination of colors, the selection would be infinite.  Natural furs count as 
colors. This would allow big bass buggers, trout buggers, panfish buggers, even 
pike and saltwater buggers. A chili-pepper would even pass.  But each color or 
combo must be by one tier, so there’s no repeats. I will post a picture palette 
of styles and colors to give some food for thought, and then we tie one on. 
Then we get to tying actual flies.  (TUI flies are still acceptable)

If this one runs over the number, that’s fine, since variations are endless and 
buggers work for everything.  I have salt-water rope-dub jack-buggers that are 
just killer in Florida bays. (Ask Jerry Goldsmith)  Just a rope-dub (highly 
segmented, tapered) bugger tied with bite tippet with flash green and blue 
materials. I thought a new twist would be to post your pilot-pattern on VFB for 
a comment session to get thoughts.  Then if a VFBer wants to join or just post 
their comment or even their version (photo), that would make for a real fun 
swap with lots of participation that wouldn’t be time-consuming at all. Any 
takers? DonO 

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Re: [VFB] Kevin Slater

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Tried pictures, but they were under glass.  To dark to take without flash and 
the flash reflected off the glass.
Rick


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Congrats!  Time to post some photos with the ribbons. DonO   From: 'Rick 
Zieger' via VFB Mail Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 5:05 PMTo: Google Inc. 
Subject: [VFB] Kevin Slater He tied some flies for the fly tying contest at the 
Iowa state Fair.Can't remember which flies won ribbons. Rick 


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[VFB] Kevin Slater

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He tied some flies for the fly tying contest at the Iowa state Fair.Can't 
remember which flies won ribbons.
Rick 

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[VFB] July 4

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Have a safe and Happy fourth to all my friends on these lists.Know better than 
to add "sober".
Rick 

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Re: [VFB] Health update

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I hope it is a permanent cure.   Have fun on the trip.
Rick 


On Wed Jun 28 2017 05:08:54 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time), Pete Gramp 
<pete.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Well, they had me on the gurney for gallbladder removal surgery, and then the 
surgeon reread the ultrasound and bloodwork and CT and so on, and wanted more 
tests done (I think one is called HIDA, and there are two others I won't 
pretend to be able to type out correctly)... so for those who are aware, from 
my facebook close friends list, the surgery was cancelled for the gallbladder 
removal, pending further tests.On the up-side of things, the surgeon poked and 
prodded all over my gut with just his gloved hands, and now this may be a 
placebo effect at its finest, but after 2 months of pain and uncertainty what 
it was, to be without any pain there, hey I'll take it!  It makes absolutely no 
logical sense to me how simply poking in my belly is going to make the pain 
stop, but indeed it did (maybe I had gas...haha) but seriously, I have no 
explanation for it - yet there it is, two days since he poked for a good 2 or 3 
minutes straight, and now no pain.  Like I said, I'm chalking it up to mind 
over matter, as in my mind playing tricks on me, but hey, I'll take no pain 
over the pain I had any day!  Now don't get me wrong, we still want to figure 
out what caused the pain in the first place, and what's up, but I thank my Lord 
for this blessing of no pain, and that I didn't have to go under the knife!
Just wanted to let those of you who may not have heard, know about this 
update.Oh, and to keep it related... Fishing trip to Manchester VT and then 
Oakland/ Waterville ME (both USA) is still scheduled for 2 weeks in July, (if 
near either location, private message me if you'd like to get together and/or 
if you can recommend fishing locations to go it alone with extremely mild 
wading conditions, preferably from the banks/ shoreline of the streams and 
rivers for trout and the likes) and hopefully this mess doesn't keep our family 
from that vacation / holiday.
Hope this finds all of you well,-Pete

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Re: [VFB] Popper Hooks

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I use straight shank hooks with foam poppers.  I use a 1/64 inch drill bit in 
my Dremel and drill a hole thru the foam.  Put a few layers on thread on the 
hook and then Zap-a-gap the foam to the hook.  Works for me.
Rick 


On Thu Jun 01 2017 21:18:29 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time), Jack Lehman 
<jklepo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Well, I'm about out of my old stinger hooks.  The 8089 and B10S are good 
for some poppers, but the short shank limits my options. And I don't 
like the kink-shank hooks for the foam poppers I usually tie.  Anyone 
found any other options?


Thanks

Jack

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Re: [VFB] Dry Fly Swap

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Thanks for the info on the u tagged fly. Mine is the ugly one.
Rick 

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Well the flies of the Dry Fly Swap landed in Holland. Great job, thanks to all 
those who participated and especially to Peggy!Mine was the untoetagged Grizzly 
Wulff.BestMart
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[VFB] Dry fly swap

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 Got some very nice flies in the mail yesterday. Thanks to all.  Mine was the 
ugly one. 
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Re: [VFB] SWAPS both sent out today

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Thanks for your efforts.
Rick 

  From: Peggy Brenner <ladyflyt...@gmail.com>
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 Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 3:13 PM
 Subject: [VFB] SWAPS both sent out today
   
there are 6 swappers getting a envelope with 2 dry flies, I missed them and had 
several packages so they went on their own.

This was a nice swap!

Thanks for taking part

Peggy

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Re: [VFB] Sowbug

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Will miss seeing you.Rick

  From: J Balmer 
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 Subject: [VFB] Sowbug
   
U'nfortunately, I'm going to have to bow out of this years Sowbug Roundup. Had 
a couple of things come up that require my direct attention through the first 
week in April. I really had looked forward to this year.
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Re: [VFB] Sowbug 2017 - my schedule

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Glad to be able to see you again.

Rick 

  From: Rene Zillmann <rene.zillm...@t-online.de>
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Sowbuggers,

I will leave here on Sunday Mar 19th, arrive in Memphis late on this 
date (due to the time shift) and simply head to a hotel.

On Monday 20th I will arrive in Mountain home, assuming in the 
afternoon. Is anybody else also there at this point in time? Any meeting 
place already agreed? fshing?... Tying and lying?

After attending the Sowbug I'll leave on Sunday heading to Hot Springs, 
Natchez and return via Memphis.

How are  your plans?

Rene

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Re: [VFB] Test messdage

['Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail]

Feel better today.  Have some muscle soreness.
Rick 


  From: Bob Hendry <bhen...@cheerful.com>
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 4:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [VFB] Test messdage
   
 I know exactly what you mean Rick.  It hit me in the AM, Dec 28th - the day 
after my birthday.
  The worst part was over in 36 hours or so, but minor effects went of for 
anopther couple of days.  Hope you like chicken noodle soup?   8 ~ }
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Hendry  Southern Maryland   “Life is a race. I intend to finish last.”  On 
24-Jan-17 10:24, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
  
  I wish. Flu hit late last night. Not worth much right now. Rick 
   
 
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Re: [VFB] Test messdage

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I wish. Flu hit late last night.Not worth much right now.Rick

  From: Michael Bliss 
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 Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 11:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [VFB] Test messdage
   
I would be out occasionally as I love winter fishing but a stupid viral 
infection has gotten into my ears after spending a month elsewhere.  I hope all 
out there are in better health.  I can't wait for warmth.  I have over 3 feet 
of snow in my yard.
Mike
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 6:46 PM, Neville Gosling  wrote:

Hi Allan:

Well at least you are still there! I thought that I must be disconnected!

Neville

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

Water is hard (or at least it should be at this time of year).  Folks must be 
hibernating. 

Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 23, 2017, at 8:23 PM, Neville Gosling  wrote:


I haven't seen any incoming VFB emails since Mike Bliss on 01 Jan 2017.  Is 
everyone there?

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Re: [VFB] Hank Roberts White Gloved Howdy?

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Google "Hank Roberts White Gloved Howdy    and you find some info.  Just one 
name for the fly.
Rick 

  From: JERALD CARUSO <jerryp...@comcast.net>
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 Subject: Re: [VFB] Hank Roberts White Gloved Howdy?
   
Pete  I've heard of it.  Even tied a few.  Learned it from an older guy in the 
club I belong about 25 years ago.  I was looking for a pattern to match a 
particular hatch.  I don't think I've tied since then.
Jerry C
"All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."
On December 31, 2016 at 5:38 AM Pete Gramp <pete.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Anyone ever hear of a pattern called a "Hank Roberts White Gloved Howdy"?
Passed by my local pond and saw another fly fisher there (rare) just reeling 
them in (very rare), hand over foot, thankfully catch and releasing or I'd need 
to find myself a new local pond to fish - he was catching that many - but when 
I stopped by to ask what he was using, he gave a sly grin and said an older 
pattern called the "Hank Roberts White Gloved Howdy".  I shouldn't be as 
surprised as I am, but seeing as it was a fellow who looked fresh out of 
puberty, pimples and all, I was a bit surprised he was using an older pattern.  
He never did let me get a look at the fly, so I'm on a "quest" of sorts, to 
find a pattern recipe and example photo to get an idea of what the end product 
should look like and how to tie it.
Thanks, gang, any help is appreciated!-Pete 
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Re: [VFB] Sowbug

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  From: J Balmer 
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 Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:57 AM
 Subject: [VFB] Sowbug
   
Tony, who 
do I talk to about tying @ Sowbug? I never heard back from them.  J  J 
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[VFB] Birthday

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 Wane Blake-Hedges is the birthday boy today.Have a good ne.
Rick

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[VFB] Thanksgiving.

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 Have a great day tomorrow.  Enjoy those you can be with.
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Re: [VFB] international fly tying festival

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Iowa is even further away.Rick

  From: Allan Fish 
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On 11/18/16 1:08 PM, Jack Harford wrote:
> Let us know how it goes. Too bad it is so far away from Indy :D
Likewise.

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