David -
may I ask which version of flash player you are using?
Thanks,
-Nathan
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Terranova [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I¹ve also sent this question to blip.tv¹s support, as I can¹t seem
to find
some extremely basic information anywhere on their site
Thanks David. We have made a change to the player to accommodate for
the ver 10. You should see the changes later this week.
-Nathan
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Terranova [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, thanks.. It¹s 10 point something something
--
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Well said Randy -
in total agreement -
Nathan Miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
--- humancloner1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The number of people who post videos online fails
to differentiate
between those who do so regularly and seriously
versus those who shoot
a few nonsensical videos post
video hosting platform(s)?
Favorite video blog beside your own?
And shameless self-promotion, where do you videoblog?
Clearly, you only have to answer as many questions as you want. I will post
the answers in some form on my blog. Anybody game?
Take care and happy videoblogging,
Nathan
Don't get me started on Anheuser Busch...gonna bring some killer
east coast microbeer.
I'll bring the goose! http://www.gooseisland.com/
--Nathan
http://www.nathaner.com/vlog
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be if there will be a FCP workshop. All my thoughts are
just spilling out because this is so exciting! I'm going to inventory
my boy scout gear now.
--Nathan
http://www.nathaner.com/vlog
Heath,
Congratulations on 2 years of vlogging. The Entertainer is very
suitable for this video.
--Nathan
http://www.nathaner.com/vlog
for progressive video streaming - somewhat of a lightweight
CDN. The downside is that it does basically infinitely scale - if you get
Dugg or Boing'd be prepared for the costs, as S3 will handle just about any
load you can throw at it.
+Nathan
On Dec 18, 2007 2:11 PM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
I would definitely be interested in that meetup. When I first
discovered videoblogging, I would go there on wednesdays for the Motion
Graphics Chicago monthly meetings. Is that run by the same guys, it'll
be a blast.
i travel to Chicago regularly if you all want to meetup. I've been
was very surprised...we haven't actually made the
video yet, however later this fall I think we are
gonna get serious and make a little 15 minute
documentary on the whole process...
nathan miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
--- missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
God, is this ever disturbing
--- caminofilm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
don't lose that Rupert, I enjoyed reading your post
second that...
Thanks for taking that time Rupert! Enjoyed reading
that
Nathan Miller
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offlist.
Best,
Nathan
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that up and then change your FTP password(s)...
nathan miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
Media permalinks make us happy.
Jeroen Wijering rules.
Pro accounts for sale now!
+nathan
On 5/31/07, dinarebecca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi you guys!
Wanted to solicit some help for our five-word (or less) acceptance
speech at the Webbies.
Justin has the best one I've heard so far
Make good videos and they will come.
nathan miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
--- sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i think for many people, tossing videos up all over
the place is just a way
to get started.
the value may come when you as a content creator
find your voice/style/focus
and start
Try Mux.cruxy.com for downloading and converting videos from most any
site or url. -nathan
On 5/4/07, wjbookman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Broken link, buddy!
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skype:nathanialfreitas
I
might come up with
I'm pretty proud of this interview I shot back in January with some really
funny creative dancers out of LA who are trying to build a media empire
(some day!):
http://blog.cruxy.com/blog/?p=179
+Nathan
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Please help spread the word if you are so inclined.
Best,
Nathan
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My vote - DC...
Depending on the date there is a small chance I could
make it this year...
I sure would like to...
nathan miller
fukuoka japan
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
Not sure why this grab my attention however it did,
and curious to see if anyone else noticed...
today a lot of spam got into my comments that read
bad news
and the url linked back to the nytimes.com website...
the youtube lawsuit article was front page...
funky...hmmm...
nathan miller
The guys from HowToDoTheRobot.com are doing this like crazy:
http://myspace.com/howtodotherobot
+nathan
Kent Nichols wrote:
Hey Guys,
I'm working with Move On about the recent blocking of Revver and other
small sites and I need to find some examples on Myspace currently of
people using
type utility.
More on our blog here: http://openvision.tv/blog/?p=138
+Nathan
sull wrote:
This was built by Nathan from cruxy.com.
It a great experiment using Amazon web services.
On 2/7/07, DOUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] com mailto:dhbprovri%40aol.com wrote:
http://mux.am/
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here's how youtube does it themselves:
http://youtube.com/rss/global/recently_added.rss
more info at: http://youtube.com/rssls
+nathan
Jan McLaughlin wrote:
Find a blog that's doing it and write 'em an email, then let us know...
:)
Jan
On 2/4/07, Deirdre Straughan deirdre.straughan
Joshua Kinberg wrote:
You can sell media with Cruxy.com, which was developed by Nathan
Freitas, who is on this list.
Thanks, Josh.
There is a great new survey of sites that help video producers make
money.
Its an except from a book by Scott Kirsner:
http://www.scottkirsner.com/webvid
Hey folks -
Has anyone noticed that Myspace no longer allows embed / code in
profiles? Or at least pasting in new code.
You can still put it in blogs and bulletins, but a lot of users on Cruxy
like to put our player into their main profile page and won't be able to
do that anymore.
I've
Mike Hudack wrote:
Man, that really sucks.
please digg this up if you care:
http://digg.com/software/MySpace_Disables_External_Flash_again
I have to say www.chinesepod.com is one of the best
language podcasts I have ever come across...
I gotta say, learning Chinese is tough, however it is
not impossible.
nathan miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
--- R. Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey all,
I am in the middle of trying
sull wrote:
do you think osx is open to users or confined to approved applications?
I feel like they will push widgets as the primary application model for
developers. Just my guy instinct based on issues around deployment, updating,
and a networked application model.
+n
, Nat
Mandelbrot, in the clone orange jumpsuit doing my best imitation of
Fritz' doomed characters.
Best,
Nathan
aka Nat Mandelbrot in Second Life
Digital Buddha wrote:
On the heels of the announcement that Four Eyed Monsters will be having a
screening in Second Life, Sundance has announced
Woah that looks awesome! If only the Zune was worthy of FireAnt ;)
+nathan
Mike Meiser wrote:
Anyone notice this?
http://www.feedyour zune.com/ http://www.feedyourzune.com/
Imagine my suprise, I just stumbled on it at random and noticed it said
powered by fireant.
Way to hit the nail
Enjoyed the screening last night, PAN-folks. Always a good time to see
a well-curated collection of video on the big (err...medium) screen.
+Nathan
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser
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Amazing article...
thanks for sharing
Nathan Miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
--- Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How To Shoot a Network TV Pilot With the Panasonic
HVX-200
http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/tv_pilot_hvx_200_brockett.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/ya5b7m
P2
Is anyone using the TotalStats Pro feature Feedburner
offers???
If so, how do you like it???
Nathan Miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
Cheap talk?
Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.
http
Vloggercon got a so-so mention on Sunday's This Week In Tech podcast:
http://twit.tv/56
(it's about two-thirds of the way through). Mostly it was just making
fun of how the word vloggercon sounds.
That's real funny coming from a bunch of twits and guys named Laporte
and Dvorak.
+Nathan
Michael Verdi wrote:
So-so? That was pathetic. They sounded like 12-years-olds making fun
of someone.
Well, that's how they always sound, so in context
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+nathan
Devlon wrote:
complaining vs. stating your point of view...it all depends what
side of the fence one is on.
It would be so much easier to handle discussions if every prefaced
what they said with 'as I see it', but we don't, we speak it like
and coming B-S...I
am going to Vietnam in August...oh boy!!
Nathan Miller
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A very nice tool...
however before you buy, (to future vloggers) and folks
shooting with still cameras...this is a monster.
h...the price says it...but it is really, I am
sure a monster!
nm
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
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Visit your group "videoblogging"
Came across this today...
Alfred Hitchcock - The length of a film should be
directly related to the endurance of the human
bladder.
nathan miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
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playing and creating/publishing of playlists.
+nathan
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Find and watch unique internet video through my original software:
I
slideshow.
Or perhaps an automated podcast-to-videoblog service: Podcast-Speech to
Text-VideoString
Anyhow, great work. A+!
+nathan
Adam Quirk wrote:
Everyone needs to check out videostring.net http://videostring.net
Amazing poetic video project by Serra of headsoff
So damn cool
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andy
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Nathan Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David,
I've got a clip ready to submit, as well
(http://blog.studentsforafreetibet.org/2006/05/02/immigrant-rights/).
Was having some uploading problems (with my host
David,
I've got a clip ready to submit, as well
(http://blog.studentsforafreetibet.org/2006/05/02/immigrant-rights/).
Was having some uploading problems (with my host, not yours) last night,
but should be able to work them out today.
Nice way to use Broadcast Machine, btw!
+Nathan
David
Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
I can't believe I'm using these buzzwords, but...
Would this be... Web 2.0 faxing?!
Social Faxing!
+nathan
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Sounds like you need to demux your clip.
I am sure Micheal Verdi mentioned MPEG Streamclip...
it is free and works great...should be able to find it
via a google search...
There are other demuxing programs, I am on a MAC, and
I am sure there are plenty for Windows...
nathan miller
www.bicycle
An avid watcher of my stuff dropped me this comment:
Hey Nathan, do you realise youve got ActiveX employed
on your Web site? Its causing these really annoying
pop-up messages to appear in my browser every time I
access your page. I use IE 6. Can you do something
about this?
Can anyhow send
Living in a different (very different time zone)
I am flooded with mail...the vblog yahoo group is
bliss but give me a minute to bounce thru the great
tips!
will comment in hours to come...or a day or two!!
nm
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
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a new job, who could ask for worst
timing...
Nathan Miller
http://www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
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Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.
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Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
don't misplace it!
The ride should be about 30 minutes, and you'll either want to get off
at 16th st. Mission or Civic Center (on Market Street). The walk from
both stops is not bad, as long as you aren't loaded up too heavy.
That's my two cents.
+Nathan
Devlon wrote:
Not being in SF to say
records great sound/images...however it broke a
while back and had to pay 3 yen to get it
fixed...(275USD)
hmmm...
nathan miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
--- Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shopping? I love camera shopping. Allow me to share
a frugal and
practical approach to vlogging camcorder
(they
were on sale at Best Denki for 90bucks!!), three
Maxtor firewire drives, and some old 60GB drives I
ripped out of old machines...it is a mess...
nathan miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
--- Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You know Fireant lets you control how much drive
space it uses. I
The PAN rocks!
nathan miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
--- contactmica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello -
I noticed the thread on favorite vlogs going on and
I wanted to take a
minute to explain a little more about The Public
Address Network (aka
The PAN) , because it's a really good place
Loiez D. wrote:
I decided to upgrade to HDV format.
I would like to buy a Sony HC1 and an Imac Dual Core
I'll work on Imovie HD 6 ( waiting for FCP Universal binaries)
Is it a good choice ??
Loiez,
I've had the HC1 for about five months now and have been very happy with
it. The battery
using Final Cut Express HD
these days, and am trying to get a solid process down.
Thanks for being an HDV HC-1 pioneer Nate. Your work is very important.
I'm posting this on the HDV Yahoo list as well.
A hapless pioneer at best!
+nathan
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...bandwitch, I sometimes move over 20GB a
day...yeah I should do the flash thing, however I am
going to stick with QT...because I love Quicktime.
Nathan Miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
--- Melanie Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello All,
I've been going back and forth with this one
If any vlogger is in Southern Japan (Kyushu) Just send
me a mail...I would be happy to show you around
Fukuoka and my town Kurume...and I have plenty of
tatami space/extra bedroom if you need a place to
crash!
Nathan Miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
--- Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote
...and when I use the word
remarkable...I mean people will leave comments,
anyhow, thanks to Quicktime, you can jump forward if
you find the need...have yet to get a comment that
reads, Dear Mr. Bicycle Sidewalk, Your videos are too
long, please make them shorter!
Nathan Miller
http;//www.bicycle
Yes, I was thinking the same thing...
I am going to run out and buy a mega gaint plasma
screen japanese tv and a new mini mac and invite all
best friends over for a meet the people who live in
the internet! Well something like that...
Nathan Miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
--- Pete Prodoehl
here is a good article on RB...it is in Japanese...
http://podcastnow.net/blog/archives/000762.html
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They are selling 250GB Buffalo 2.0 USB drives at the
Kei's Denki in Saga, Kyushu Japan...for about 90
bucks...I picked up one the other day...
My first USB external drive...I dig it...it works!
nm
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
--- Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its too expensive for a
Yeah...
this is the videoblogging group...
everyone wants to know...
what is the cocktail!
I am bleeping lost!!!
Nahtan Miller
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are asking for more
information on today's
Rocketboom.
Am I right or totally off base?
On Feb 21, 2006, at 12:36 PM, Nathan Miller wrote:
Yeah...
this is the videoblogging group...
everyone wants to know...
what is the cocktail!
I am bleeping lost!!!
Nahtan Miller
Thank you!
I was in a hot summer office when in joined...
how, now i have found 3000 plus friends!
growing, climbing, jumping, a few plus are in my
kitchen...
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening...
nathan said it!
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
Nathan Miller
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, no buffering playback, ability to sync to mobile players
*and* reduction in bandwidth headaches for content distributors.
thoughts on this speculation? i should go fix my leaky faucet now.
those are my thoughts. drip drip.
+nathan
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powerful. I think with a slightly
underpowered setup, Final Cut Express handles HD a tad better.
+nathan
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like to compress it to
something much smaller...however I want my Mac to do
this while I sleep!
I hope somebody out there has an idea of what I am
talking about...
Any help would be needed...
btw were talking about 2 or 3 hours of raw DV
footage...were talking over 500 GB of footage!!
Nathan
Correction!
Any help would be needed...
btw I am not talking about 2 or 3 hours of raw DV
footage...I am talking about over 500 GB of
footage!!
Nathan Miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
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really excited
about videoblogging being the next step.
Keep up all the great work out there, whether you're trying to make a
dime or just doing your thing.
+Nathan
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+my life: http://nathan.freitas.net
+my cause: http://tibetwillbefree.blogspot.com
+my skype
I am giving a Workshop at the Tenjin Fukuoka APPLE
STORE on March 8th...
Yes, I will tell all the Japanese people about
FireANT!!
Jay and the FireANT crew RAWK
nm
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
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Anyone know how to run a couple Macs parallel so that
I could knock down my rendering time...I am using
Final Cut
Hmmm...is this possible?
I honestly I have no idea...but was chatting with a
friend...
any info would be great...
nathan miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
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I don't have a windows machine...
Here is the link:
http://www.gyao.jp
hmmm...
nathan miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
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Talked to over 400 chinese students last week at Wuhan
Uni...
Hopefully I started something...
Will be posting China clips over the next couple
weeks...
Nathan Miller
http://www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
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One place to start might be QQ...the Yahoo of China...
http://www.qq.com
nathan miller
--- Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Weell... I'm Chinese.
It's just that I'm a Malaysian Chinese.
hey edmund--
good to meet you...there are several Chinese people
ive met (online)
from
the Chinese national anthem!
I miss the vlogging community and once I return to my
home in Japan I will have a truck load of stuff to
post from China...
Everyone out and those of you who read this far...
xie xie...
arigatou...
and that great english word...thanks!
2006 is fuckin' gonna ROCK!!!
Nathan
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Would be tough to meet up...
However, I am from North Carolina...and I do vlog
often...
Nathan Miller
currently resides in Kyushu, Japan
http://www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
--- Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) Are there any VBloggers in the Triangle Area of
NC? If so how can I
go about
thanks!!
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The perfect moment...
for me comes when the 3 to 4 minute video idea floats
into my mind, and I realize it can done without much
hassle...
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I heard about a vlogger conference in New York
sometime in April...Anyone know the exact dates? I am
thinking about going to America next year, would be
cool to check it out!
Nathan Miller
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Bill,
just read both the jpn and eng...
yeah, that translation works!
love your posts!!
nathan miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
--- Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alright, here is a fairly accurate translation (in
case anyone really
cares):
If you're a fan of U.S. independent bands
Came across this one a few days ago...
http://mooom.jp/
Nathan Miller
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Within the next two weeks I should be able to throw
together a presentation at my university...
Will try to bring some new folks into the
vlogsphere...
nathan miller
in japan
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
--- LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is a list of countries represented
Dreamhost an email, however even after 15
hours they have not responsed!!
Hope someone can point me in the right direction.
nathan miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
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What are the specs on your machine?
Have you tired converting the files using MPEG
Streamclip to DV or another format...then import to
FCP...
I think, however might be wrong...aiff sound files
work best in FCP and as for video, FCP can tackle
(almost) any format...
nm
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
Wow...that was great!
Words...
1. Please post a .mov file (QT)
2. This clip is great so make it big, please!
Question(s) and stuff
1. Where on earth did you get the footage?
2. Narration was great!
nathan miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
--- Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
blah form of
bad punk rock))...oooii!
nathan miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
japan
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I have been making videos about japan for a long time.
I make very very unpro stuff...(check my site ne)
however, this media is great!!
in 6 months this media might hurricane into
something
imagination only knows!
nathan miller
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
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This!!!
This makes the world flat!!
so flat!!
view japan...
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
yoroshiku baby!
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Konnichiwa...
the world has become so flat.
I have so much to say...hmmm...do i?
(mundane, jumper higher, huh?, how much)
will be vlogging, speaking, recording, editing...
ride with me will ya...
gomen ne...
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
yoroshiku baby.
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on the planet to have the exact item that everyone else wanted. I
fully support this system of economics.
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It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
- Original Message -
From: Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED
because it would shut a lot of people up.
Ok, I'm done now. Reallly. I'm turning off the computer and going outside
to enjoy this beautiful day with all my east indian neighbors in the park.
--
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It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man
Sorry I sent my apology before I saw
this.
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It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that
man.
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