Re: [videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-22 Thread Verdi
Hey David, We have had to remove a few comment from Dylan's vlog. That's been the worst of it. We used it as an opportunity to have a conversation with her about some of the kinds of people you will find on the internet. On the other side of this whole thing, we've had lots of

[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-21 Thread mkleider
it is true that many porn sites are going to begin advertising on vlogs. but why is this a bad thing? obviously the people that will link to such sponsers are not going to have tech vlogs or any other really serious issue because of the damage the porn links would do to their credibility.

[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-21 Thread Susan
Kitka, I'm afraid I've never had the pleasure of talking to you before, but your last sentence hit it right on the head-- When it comes down to it, parents have to be the true monitors. That is the absolute truth. We need to stay involved. I know my kids are young--but I am very involved in

[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-21 Thread Ms. Kitka
That's very responsible of you, Susan, I wish more parents kept a close eye on their children. There are so many people up in arms in the media these days about pornography and other dangers to children on the Internet, but many parents blame the government and ICANN because they don't want to

[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-21 Thread Ms. Kitka
I'm confused... what are you talking about? Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, mkleider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it is true that many porn sites are going to begin advertising on vlogs. but why is this a bad thing? obviously the people that will link to such sponsers are not going

[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-21 Thread taoofdavid65
Glad that you did jump in on this. I was hoping to hear your input. Have either of your daughters ever had to deal with online wierdos with respect to their vlogs? My daughter wants to start one and asked me to set it up for her. I am a little wary to get one going for her simply because of some

[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread ms.kitka
You're right, Deirdré, this could be a potential dark side of videoblogging but at the moment there are not very many kids videoblogging on a regular basis... and I like it that way. The more kids we have videoblogging, the more kids will be targetted. In my experience, I know that certain

[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread taoofdavid65
This isnt about vlogging at all. It's about sick twisted individuals that one may meet online. It's also about a kid with issues and parents that did not monitor the activities of said kid while online. RSS? Mefeedia? Vlogmap? Give me a break. Completely irrelevant. I hope that was a joke. ---

[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread ms.kitka
If anything, having an RSS feed and being on maps and directories would get a child vlogger an audience. After an audience is established, who is to stop the child from having a secret side project? All the media attention about the fear of porn on the iPod is certainly getting to the ears of

[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread Richard Bennett-Forrest
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread Michael Sullivan
After an audience is established, who is to stop the child from having a secret sideproject? right. this is probably the only relationship the story has to videoblogging.On 12/20/05, ms.kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:If anything, having an RSS feed and being on maps and directories would get a

[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread ms.kitka
I've been keeping a close eye on the porn industry and video-podcasting over the past few months and I have found that there is very little in the way of sex-based videoblogs. I even asked my viewers to e-mail me if they find other sex videoblogs because I would like to review them. I received a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread Adam Quirk
On 12/20/05, ms.kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, seriously, what's the point? I can't imagine many people subscribing since it's just a preview... all it is is junk advertising. I'm just hoping that they will realize that it is not worth their time and stop spamming vlog directories with

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread Michael Meiser
Warning RANT! You better fucking believe it. This issue is central to what I believe in... please enjoy. I'm going to nip this one in the bud.. this is NOT a side effect of video blogging... video blogging is a lightnet medium, an open system... such devious behavior can ONLY lurk in

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread Michael Meiser
Interesting point... the visibility might bring an audience... but I ask you this... is it possible for this open audience and visibility to be weeded out and turned into a deviant mechanism? Or would it be to easily discovered? I'd love to chat more on this subject. It's extremely

[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread Ms. Kitka
Robert, What I'm trying to say is that companies are going to catch on to this new form of entertainment as a marketing strategy. When I go to vlog directories, I'm not looking to find a videoblog of advertisements. I have no problem with some videoblogs containing an advertisement or two (eg.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread Markus Sandy
hi kitka, welcome to the group a few points that might relate: 1. every night for the past *several years*, many people build temporary sex blogs and vlogs (group blogs actually). Hundreds of people share personal videos (thousands share photos). These are paid services and rarely have RSS

[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread Ms. Kitka
Mike, Sam Sugar and SugarBank.com once mentioned the idea of a .kids domain... the reason he did this was because it was ridiculous to create a .xxx domain since children will still be able to access .com sex sites. A .kids domain would be the only domain children would have access to and

[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread Bill Streeter
I don't think that TV style ad vlogs will be very successful. I'd like to see someone try it. I have yet to see one. The model for this is text blogs which have been around a lot longer and I haven't seen any that are all ads all the time. Now someone could theoretically disguise an ad blog as

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread robert a/k/a r
And others are, Kitka. Perhaps some directories will provide a means for you to select via tags or some another scheme. However when you say directories should exclude videos such as this: http://maximilianvideo.com/video/maximiliancarpcaviarpromo.mov> and this:

[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread Ms. Kitka
Devlon, This came up last week I think. It's a tough thing, we don't want to be censors, yet we want a nice friendly place where everyone can be comfortable finding video. I have no doubt that more people will start to take advantage of the medium. Just as smaller blogs may become shrouded

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread robert a/k/a r
Kitka, I happen to enjoy discovering promotional video, and you said (see your quote below) you don't. Big deal, it's not worth getting yourself kerfuffled over, I was pointing out that there's room for everything, and we should not exclude work from directories. The videos I linked for you

[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread Ms. Kitka
Robert, I used to be a big fan of adcritic.com before they started charging people to watch their ads. I think it would be smart if perhaps an advertising company put out their own video-podcast showing off their creations or if someone had a video-podcast presenting a variety of funny ads from

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread Michael Meiser
On Dec 20, 2005, at 3:10 PM, Markus Sandy wrote: hi kitka, you've touched on some hot topics and this is a very lively group sometimes it does feel a bit like a punk slam dance in here :) my points were mainly just data points to consider and to indicate that some of this has been going on

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread Michael Meiser
On Dec 20, 2005, at 4:25 PM, Ms. Kitka wrote: Robert, I used to be a big fan of adcritic.com before they started charging people to watch their ads. I think it would be smart if perhaps an advertising company put out their own video-podcast showing off their creations or if someone had a

[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread Ms. Kitka
Well said, Mike... you shall be dubbed from now on as Micheal Meiser, Videoblogging Philosopher. Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 20, 2005, at 4:25 PM, Ms. Kitka wrote: Robert, I used to be a big fan of adcritic.com before

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread Michael Meiser
Thank you I will wear the title with honor. ...long with my other titles he of much bullshit and he who dances with many words. :) I've gone way overboard today. -Mike On Dec 20, 2005, at 5:14 PM, Ms. Kitka wrote: Well said, Mike... you shall be dubbed from now on as Micheal Meiser,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging: potential dark side

2005-12-20 Thread Michael Sullivan
mike is the book of vlog.On 12/20/05, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you I will wear the title with honorlong with my other titles he of much bullshit and he who dances with many words. :)I've gone way overboard today.-MikeOn Dec 20, 2005, at 5:14 PM, Ms. Kitka wrote:Well