Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?
Randolfe Wicker wrote: A clear cut case of gender prejudice. Not sure you would understand the issues involved - Original Message - From: Pete Prodoehl My friend once did an interview with the vocalist from the band Plaid Retina, it consisted of one question, and then ended. The question was: Why do you sing like a girl? Actually it is not a clear case of gender prejudice as you didn't really get the whole story. Here are some details about the guy who asked the question: He is a nice guy with a sense of humor. He was friends with the guy he asked the question to. It was said with a smile, not at all seriously. By the way, the answer to the question was I try very hard not too! which makes sense, because the singer also had a sense of humor, and this was as much a 'real interview' as you turning a video camera on your best friend and asking him why he's so stupid, in a joking manner common between friends. (Damn me for not putting that ;) at the end of my post!) Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?
For the record, I'm a fan of Dick Cavett. I wanted to ask him two other questions: What are you working on now? and Have you experienced age discrimination in our youth-oriented culture? I never got the chance to ask the important questions because he got overly defensive about his age. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett? On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:01:49 +0100, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After railing against political correctness in some really charming exchanges, Dick Cavett didn't seem ready after telling the interviewer who asked if he could ask a politically incorrect question that he could to bring it on. At least quote the guy correctly. He said shoot, shoot. Why'd you ask the question? Just to get a reaction? Seems to me you should've just done some basic research. According to wikipedia Cavett was born in 1936. What's the deal here? You walk up to a guy after some presentation and ask some completely random question that isn't related to what he was talking about. I would be pretty annoyed by that too. He even answered your question with a wink in his eye. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?
A clear cut case of "gender prejudice". Not sure you would understand the issues involved Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Pete Prodoehl To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] "How Old is Dick Cavett?" Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote: What's the deal here? You walk up to a guy after some presentation and ask some completely random question that isn't related to what he was talking about. I would be pretty annoyed by that too. He even answered your question with a wink in his eye.It's breaking the rules! Sure, old media might have guidelines about how to conduct an interview or ask questions, but does new media have to?My friend once did an interview with the vocalist from the band Plaid Retina, it consisted of one question, and then ended. The question was: "Why do you sing like a girl?"Pete-- http://tinkernet.org/videoblog for the future... YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?
Good point. I got in motion just a couple hours before the program. I didn't even think of looking up Cavett's age on the Internet. I'm always amazed that some obvious uses for the Internet just don't pop into our minds. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Jake Ludington To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 10:28 PM Subject: RE: [videoblogging] "How Old is Dick Cavett?" My next questions for Dick Cavett would have been: "What are you doing now?" and "Have you encountered age discrimination in our youth oriented media?" Both of those would have been fascinating to have answered. Not sure about the age discrimination, but you can find a fair amount about him online. IMDB.com again being a good place to start. Dan Rathers screw up aside, everyone (gross generalization) in the new media should take a lesson from the old media and do some background research on whatever it is they are covering as a citizen journalist. Being an amateur doesnt mean going in uninformed. Jake Ludington http://www.podcastingstarterkit.com http://www.jakeludington.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:01:49 +0100, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After railing against political correctness in some really charming exchanges, Dick Cavett didn't seem ready after telling the interviewer who asked if he could ask a politically incorrect question that he could to bring it on. At least quote the guy correctly. He said shoot, shoot. Why'd you ask the question? Just to get a reaction? Seems to me you should've just done some basic research. According to wikipedia Cavett was born in 1936. What's the deal here? You walk up to a guy after some presentation and ask some completely random question that isn't related to what he was talking about. I would be pretty annoyed by that too. He even answered your question with a wink in his eye. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote: What's the deal here? You walk up to a guy after some presentation and ask some completely random question that isn't related to what he was talking about. I would be pretty annoyed by that too. He even answered your question with a wink in his eye. It's breaking the rules! Sure, old media might have guidelines about how to conduct an interview or ask questions, but does new media have to? My friend once did an interview with the vocalist from the band Plaid Retina, it consisted of one question, and then ended. The question was: Why do you sing like a girl? Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?
I'm glad he took it well. It depends on the situation. I generally won't mind random questions (I'm rather random myself) but I would mind if someone told me I sung like a girl (well, not really since I am one). Joan On 11/23/05, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote: What's the deal here? You walk up to a guy after some presentation and ask some completely random question that isn't related to what he was talking about. I would be pretty annoyed by that too. He even answered your question with a wink in his eye. It's breaking the rules! Sure, old media might have guidelines about how to conduct an interview or ask questions, but does new media have to? My friend once did an interview with the vocalist from the band Plaid Retina, it consisted of one question, and then ended. The question was: Why do you sing like a girl? Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?
It's breaking the rules! Sure, old media might have guidelines about how to conduct an interview or ask questions, but does new media have to? My friend once did an interview with the vocalist from the band Plaid Retina, it consisted of one question, and then ended. The question was: Why do you sing like a girl? Rules of common courtesy and good judgment are older than old media. Leading off with an entirely irrelevant and possibly antagonistic question and expecting to get the attention and respect you want isn't a relationship building strategy. You become know as the asshole with the camera instead of someone worth talking to. If you expect people to talk to you openly, you're expecting that person to trust you on some level. Trust for most people means not portraying them in a bad light. I'm referring to all people here, not just famous ones. If the new media rules are about showing disrespect and acting without consideration for the feelings and opinions of others, new media will be quickly marginalized like the circus side show that is reality television. Jake Ludington http://www.podcastingstarterkit.com http://www.jakeludington.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:59:05 +0100, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote: What's the deal here? You walk up to a guy after some presentation and ask some completely random question that isn't related to what he was talking about. I would be pretty annoyed by that too. He even answered your question with a wink in his eye. It's breaking the rules! Sure, old media might have guidelines about how to conduct an interview or ask questions, but does new media have to? Tabloid journalists have been asking those kinds of questions where you're only interested in the response and not the answer since the 1700's. Are those the kind of people you as a 'new media' 'citizen journalist' want to be grouped with? This is about being a decent human being, not about 'we get to make our own fucking rules rar rar'. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?
"Leadingoff with an entirely irrelevant and possibly antagonistic question andexpecting to get the attention and respect you want isn't a relationshipbuilding strategy. You become know as the asshole with the camera instead of someone worth talking to." Well, forgive me for being curious. That question was driving me crazy. I thought Dick Cavett was in his eighties. When I guessed his age as being 75, I was being very kind. I object to this nonsense about "being ashamed of one's age". One of the first things I'll voluntarily tell you is that I am 67 years old. I'll happily become known as "the asshole with the camera". I've always asked the hard and unexpected questions in interviews. That's why my early radio interviews got rave reviews in the New York Times, The Herald Tribune and Newsweek Magazine. Cavett did tell me to "Shoot! Shoot!" when I asked permission first. I "shot" and he gagged onmy simple question. I think he over-reacted partially because he was offended by my 'kind' quess that he was 75 years old. I really expected him to smile and tell me he was 83. I was actually 'innocent' in my offending of him. Yeah, "asshole with a camera"? Watch out when I'm around! Now, I'll have to do some gooey nicearty stuff to balance my reputation. In fact, I'm editing a "Vlog In Stone" comprised ofan amazing sculpture exhibit they have in the airport in Atlanta. I guess I'll just have to risk my new notoriety and transform myself intosome sort of "art-loving fag with a camera". Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Jake Ludington To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 5:21 PM Subject: RE: [videoblogging] "How Old is Dick Cavett?" It's breaking the rules! Sure, old media might have guidelines about how to conduct an interview or ask questions, but does new media have to? My friend once did an interview with the vocalist from the band Plaid Retina, it consisted of one question, and then ended. The question was: "Why do you sing like a girl?"Rules of common courtesy and good judgment are older than old media. Leadingoff with an entirely irrelevant and possibly antagonistic question andexpecting to get the attention and respect you want isn't a relationshipbuilding strategy. You become know as the asshole with the camera instead ofsomeone worth talking to. If you expect people to talk to you openly, you'reexpecting that person to trust you on some level. Trust for most peoplemeans not portraying them in a bad light. I'm referring to all people here,not just famous ones.If the new media "rules" are about showing disrespect and acting withoutconsideration for the feelings and opinions of others, new media will bequickly marginalized like the circus side show that is reality television.Jake Ludingtonhttp://www.podcastingstarterkit.comhttp://www.jakeludington.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?
Tabloid journalists have been asking those kinds of questions where you're only interested in the response and not the answer since the 1700's. Are those the kind of people you as a 'new media' 'citizen journalist' want to be grouped with? This is about being a decent human being, not about 'we get to make our own fucking rules rar rar'. I really resent being called a tabloid journalist. I wasn't looking for a shock reaction. I was asking a question that preyed on my mind all night. Cavett was popular in the early 1970s. He was balding a bit even then and I thought of him as being in his forties. This was not some random question! It was a genuine question I was dying to hear the answer to. I think new media should have the guts to ask the politically incorrect question: Mr. Bush, does it bother you that you have caused thousands of people to die? That's the kind of question this asshole with a camera thinks should be asked. I was being very gentle with Cavett. I've always admired him. In case no one noticed, he was the star of this last vlog. I loved his story about Native Americans. I'm one of his fans, not one of his enemies. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett? On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:59:05 +0100, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote: What's the deal here? You walk up to a guy after some presentation and ask some completely random question that isn't related to what he was talking about. I would be pretty annoyed by that too. He even answered your question with a wink in his eye. It's breaking the rules! Sure, old media might have guidelines about how to conduct an interview or ask questions, but does new media have to? Tabloid journalists have been asking those kinds of questions where you're only interested in the response and not the answer since the 1700's. Are those the kind of people you as a 'new media' 'citizen journalist' want to be grouped with? This is about being a decent human being, not about 'we get to make our own fucking rules rar rar'. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randolfe Wicker Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:41 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett? Leading off with an entirely irrelevant and possibly antagonistic question and expecting to get the attention and respect you want isn't a relationship building strategy. You become know as the asshole with the camera instead of someone worth talking to. Well, forgive me for being curious. That question was driving me crazy. I thought Dick Cavett was in his eighties. When I guessed his age as being 75, I was being very kind. I object to this nonsense about being ashamed of one's age. One of the first things I'll voluntarily tell you is that I am 67 years old. I'll happily become known as the asshole with the camera. I've always asked the hard and unexpected questions in interviews. That's why my early radio interviews got rave reviews in the New York Times, The Herald Tribune and Newsweek Magazine. You can get his age from IMDB.com. In the context of the roundtable leading up to your question, how was his age relevant? You set the question up as being tough before you asked, which likely put his guard up. What was your next question after the age question going to be? Im not saying dont ask tough questions and Im not even specifically referring to that question, rather the discussion in general of new media being all about sticking it to the man. Jake Ludington http://www.podcastingstarterkit.com http://www.jakeludington.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?
My next questions for Dick Cavett would have been: "What are you doing now?" and "Have you encountered age discrimination in our youth oriented media?" Both of those would have been fascinating to have answered. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Jake Ludington To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:10 PM Subject: RE: [videoblogging] "How Old is Dick Cavett?" From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randolfe WickerSent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:41 PMTo: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [videoblogging] "How Old is Dick Cavett?" "Leadingoff with an entirely irrelevant and possibly antagonistic question andexpecting to get the attention and respect you want isn't a relationshipbuilding strategy. You become know as the asshole with the camera instead of someone worth talking to." Well, forgive me for being curious. That question was driving me crazy. I thought Dick Cavett was in his eighties. When I guessed his age as being 75, I was being very kind. I object to this nonsense about "being ashamed of one's age". One of the first things I'll voluntarily tell you is that I am 67 years old. I'll happily become known as "the asshole with the camera". I've always asked the hard and unexpected questions in interviews. That's why my early radio interviews got rave reviews in the New York Times, The Herald Tribune and Newsweek Magazine. You can get his age from IMDB.com. In the context of the roundtable leading up to your question, how was his age relevant? You set the question up as being tough before you asked, which likely put his guard up. What was your next question after the age question going to be? Im not saying dont ask tough questions and Im not even specifically referring to that question, rather the discussion in general of new media being all about sticking it to the man. Jake Ludington http://www.podcastingstarterkit.com http://www.jakeludington.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?
My next questions for Dick Cavett would have been: What are you doing now? and Have you encountered age discrimination in our youth oriented media? Both of those would have been fascinating to have answered. Not sure about the age discrimination, but you can find a fair amount about him online. IMDB.com again being a good place to start. Dan Rathers screw up aside, everyone (gross generalization) in the new media should take a lesson from the old media and do some background research on whatever it is they are covering as a citizen journalist. Being an amateur doesnt mean going in uninformed. Jake Ludington http://www.podcastingstarterkit.com http://www.jakeludington.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
