[videoblogging] Re: making directories
I post for whoever knows or meets me, online or in life. Just IMing someone doesn't really let you get to know them all that well, but video from everyday life helps. I make short movies with some friends and I post those there also in their own seperate section, and those get the most views. I think the only movie we have up right now, Peach Tea, has something like 20x as many views as my most viewed regular vlog posting. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses "art" as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten "art" vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. "Directories" are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an "artist" or in "art class" doesn't mean thatyou make "good" art.I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the "good" backto the subject of thread please. :-)-joshOn 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
Petertheman says: "Second: we as vloggers, for some reason, aren't really linking a lotto each other's videos. I'm not sure why that is." I think linking is frequently done on the basis that the more links you put on your site, the more hits you get. For that reason, at least with websites, you link to anyone who will link back to you. I have noticed some vloggers who have great vlogs and who link to others who have outstanding vlogs. However, I also have seen people with a long list of links that are essentially meaningless. Someone should develop "explained" linking. In other words, if I link to jonny goldstein (which I have) I say (great humor). That would help people decide if they were interested. If this can be done and I just don't know how, excuse my ignorance. Has anyone done this? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: petertheman To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: making directories You're assuming that the lact of a directory is a problem.Here's my view. First, with video, you need a lot more info to decide where to putyour attention than with text, because video demands more attention(you can't just quickly scan it like a text post, for example). So forvideo, you need more filters, metadata, information that helps youdecide what to put your limited attention towards. It's an attentionwar. Hence, directories can be useful.Second: we as vloggers, for some reason, aren't really linking a lotto each other's videos. I'm not sure why that is. But it does meanthat we have less interlinking than textbloggers to help peoplediscover new stuff. Hence, a directory makes sense, again.Third: search for video is an unsolved problem, and will continue tobe, especially for our type of long tail video. Hence, .. you get thepicture :)Then again I could be wrong also and Google might come out with agreat algorythmic way to find videos you want to watch, or we mightall start linking like crazy to each others videos and we wouldn'tneed directories to discover cool stuff. Oh well.Peter--http://mefeedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: making directories
Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page-- like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best for individual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an artist or in art class doesn't mean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links --- --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: making directories
Funny you mention it. I brought this up a few months ago in a video conference and got slammed for trying to create a ratings system and popularity contest. I strongly believe in what Digg has created and do not see it as a rating system. You can only digg something, which is a good thing. A submission gets +1 for each person who diggs it and there is no way to give negative feedback other than commenting, which already exists here and within blog software. After hearing the horrible response to the idea, I abandoned it due to a lack of support (and the complexity of the system). It was probably for the better since my time is very limited. My buddy is about to launch NewsVine.com which is a lot like Digg.com and he go VC money for it. Matter of fact, Digg is now rivaling Slashdot within the tech community. Who knows, maybe I'll muster up some energy and look into this again. Maybe come spring after the snow melts. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page-- like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best for individual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an artist or in art class doesn't mean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links --- --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
i am exploring the digg model as well.kinda hard to ignore.its simple at its core. thats usually a good thing.i have something partially in place.also, matt, no worry. months before you came around, the anti-ratings mentality was even stronger. it was a simpler time ;-) but now most realize that filtering is really the big big issue these days... whether or not it offends a purists point of view. sullOn 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny you mention it.I brought this up a few months ago in a videoconference and got slammed for trying to create a ratings system andpopularity contest.I strongly believe in what Digg has created and do not see it as a rating system.You can only digg something, which is a good thing.Asubmission gets +1 for each person who diggs it and there is no way togive negative feedback other than commenting, which already exists here and within blog software.After hearing the horrible response to the idea, I abandoned it due toa lack of support (and the complexity of the system).It was probablyfor the better since my time is very limited. My buddy is about to launch NewsVine.com which is a lot like Digg.comand he go VC money for it.Matter of fact, Digg is now rivalingSlashdot within the tech community. Who knows, maybe I'll muster up some energy and look into this again. Maybe come spring after the snow melts.-Matt---http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.comhttp://vlogmap.org--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page-- like news stories do on Digg.com . It might work best for individual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example.That is a very good choice.I find that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring.Then I see one which simply blows me away.Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us.You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material.You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless.An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directoriesJust because you're an artist or in art class doesn't mean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links --- --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a..Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b..To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c..Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.--- --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- sull
[videoblogging] Re: making directories
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has thought of this. But I do think it would work better for individual postings rather than entire video blogs. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny you mention it. I brought this up a few months ago in a video conference and got slammed for trying to create a ratings system and popularity contest. I strongly believe in what Digg has created and do not see it as a rating system. You can only digg something, which is a good thing. A submission gets +1 for each person who diggs it and there is no way to give negative feedback other than commenting, which already exists here and within blog software. After hearing the horrible response to the idea, I abandoned it due to a lack of support (and the complexity of the system). It was probably for the better since my time is very limited. My buddy is about to launch NewsVine.com which is a lot like Digg.com and he go VC money for it. Matter of fact, Digg is now rivaling Slashdot within the tech community. Who knows, maybe I'll muster up some energy and look into this again. Maybe come spring after the snow melts. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page-- like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best for individual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one- paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an artist or in art class doesn't mean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links --- --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
[videoblogging] Re: Making directories
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone should develop explained linking. In other words, if I link to jonny goldstein (which I have) I say (great humor). That would help people decide if they were interested. If this can be done and I just don't know how, excuse my ignorance. Has anyone done this? well... i s'pose you could use the 'title' attribute with your 'a href.' something like this-- a href=http://jonnygoldstein.com/; title=Great humor!Jonny Goldstein/a that way, whenever anyone moves their cursor over the Jonny Goldstein link, a little box pops up as a tooltip containing the words 'Great humor!' more at: http://tinyurl.com/6uo99 -- xo philip http://swordfight.org videoblog http://destroyhotaction.com remix pr0n vlog http://vlogforum.org videoblog messageboard Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Making directories
I use Wordpress and it allows you to ad comments to each link. But I don't use this feature, I opt to categorize my links. So I guess that accomplishes kind of the same thing. One of the problems of linking in an aggregated media world is the fact that if you get most of your vlogs via aggregator then how likely are you to see links on any given blog? I rarely if ever visit any actual video blog unless I'm commenting and the comment pages of most blogs don't show the links. It seems that at that point links are more important to machines (like search engines) seeing relationships than for humans. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone should develop explained linking. In other words, if I link to jonny goldstein (which I have) I say (great humor). That would help people decide if they were interested. If this can be done and I just don't know how, excuse my ignorance. Has anyone done this? well... i s'pose you could use the 'title' attribute with your 'a href.' something like this-- a href=http://jonnygoldstein.com/; title=Great humor!Jonny Goldstein/a that way, whenever anyone moves their cursor over the Jonny Goldstein link, a little box pops up as a tooltip containing the words 'Great humor!' more at: http://tinyurl.com/6uo99 -- xo philip http://swordfight.org videoblog http://destroyhotaction.com remix pr0n vlog http://vlogforum.org videoblog messageboard Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: making directories
One thing that concerns me about the digg-style system is keeping the interest of those who submit. I was an early-on digg user and was proud to be ranked #49 (but has since slipped to #110). The thing is that I got burnt out - it just became too much after a while. I'm still a subscriber in Bloglines, but I no longer submit stuff and the social environment has changed. Now there are many lame and duplicate stories submitted and even more that get popular just because they have something to do with Kevin Rose (the co-creator). For example... if there is a story on the web with AJAX in the title, someone will submit it and others will digg it without even considering if it is actually good. Maybe that is foreshadow for a popularity contest? Oh, and the comments have gotten to be more like flame wars. My impression is that people get excited about the idea of seeding content and then grow tired over time. Who knows, maybe this is just my perception because I'm burnt out on web development. After all, it is snowboard season and my priorities get all screwed up this time of year. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am exploring the digg model as well. kinda hard to ignore. its simple at its core. thats usually a good thing. i have something partially in place. also, matt, no worry. months before you came around, the anti-ratings mentality was even stronger. it was a simpler time ;-) but now most realize that filtering is really the big big issue these days... whether or not it offends a purists point of view. sull On 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny you mention it. I brought this up a few months ago in a video conference and got slammed for trying to create a ratings system and popularity contest. I strongly believe in what Digg has created and do not see it as a rating system. You can only digg something, which is a good thing. A submission gets +1 for each person who diggs it and there is no way to give negative feedback other than commenting, which already exists here and within blog software. After hearing the horrible response to the idea, I abandoned it due to a lack of support (and the complexity of the system). It was probably for the better since my time is very limited. My buddy is about to launch NewsVine.com which is a lot like Digg.com and he go VC money for it. Matter of fact, Digg is now rivaling Slashdot within the tech community. Who knows, maybe I'll muster up some energy and look into this again. Maybe come spring after the snow melts. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page-- like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best for individual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
Even highlighting the number of hits a vlog got might be helpful. It would have the negative effect of those with the most hits (earned or not) would keep getting more. However, that would be like having a "best-seller" list for books. You know the "best-sellers" are worth looking at more closely. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Bill Streeter To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page--like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best for individual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine.I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud.Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses "art" as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten "art" vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. "Directories" are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an "artist" or in "art class" doesn't mean that you make "good" art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the "good" back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Well, the links on my site usually stem from one of two things: 1) I had some sort of interaction with them that I enjoyed and probably remember in relation to Vloggertown. So I put them on my videoblog so I can remember my neighbors. 2) They had something on their site that I enjoyed for my own twisted reasons. Not necessarily because I think they have some Great Body Of Super Video or anything; probably just for one video. I don't think many of these people in my sidebar don't even link back to me-- and why should they? I don't admit I know the drunk in the corner sleeping in his own puke, but actually, I know him very well. I see and talk to him often, but I don't have to admit it in public! I don't think many of these sidebar links on sites are there because of anything other than because they like the content or from some sort of interaction with the human behind the site. But of course, if you want someone to notice you linking to them still works better than a webring... but don't expect the linklove recipricated just for that reason alone. If it did, sites like Rocketboom and human-dog would have a page FILLED with recipricals...and that, for a directory, would help noone. But what do I know about why other people link... this is just why I do it. (posting twice today because I had two cups of coffee before food..) schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://bayarea.node101.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Petertheman says: Second: we as vloggers, for some reason, aren't really linking a lot to each other's videos. I'm not sure why that is. I think linking is frequently done on the basis that the more links you put on your site, the more hits you get. For that reason, at least with websites, you link to anyone who will link back to you. I have noticed some vloggers who have great vlogs and who link to others who have outstanding vlogs. However, I also have seen people with a long list of links that are essentially meaningless. Someone should develop explained linking. In other words, if I link to jonny goldstein (which I have) I say (great humor). That would help people decide if they were interested. If this can be done and I just don't know how, excuse my ignorance. Has anyone done this? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: petertheman To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: making directories You're assuming that the lact of a directory is a problem. Here's my view. First, with video, you need a lot more info to decide where to put your attention than with text, because video demands more attention (you can't just quickly scan it like a text post, for example). So for video, you need more filters, metadata, information that helps you decide what to put your limited attention towards. It's an attention war. Hence, directories can be useful. Second: we as vloggers, for some reason, aren't really linking a lot to each other's videos. I'm not sure why that is. But it does mean that we have less interlinking than textbloggers to help people discover new stuff. Hence, a directory makes sense, again. Third: search for video is an unsolved problem, and will continue to be, especially for our type of long tail video. Hence, .. you get the picture :) Then again I could be wrong also and Google might come out with a great algorythmic way to find videos you want to watch, or we might all start linking like crazy to each others videos and we wouldn't need directories to discover cool stuff. Oh well. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com
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right, thats what I am doing... individual video posts, not the entire vlog... in this case.On 12/5/05, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'm glad I'm not the only one who has thought of this. But I do think it would work better for individual postings rather thanentire video blogs.Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, LeanBackVids.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny you mention it.I brought this up a few months ago in avideo conference and got slammed for trying to create a ratings system and popularity contest. I strongly believe in what Digg has created and do not see it as a rating system.You can only digg something, which is a goodthing.A submission gets +1 for each person who diggs it and there is no way to give negative feedback other than commenting, which already exists here and within blog software. After hearing the horrible response to the idea, I abandoned itdue to a lack of support (and the complexity of the system).It was probably for the better since my time is very limited. My buddy is about to launch NewsVine.com which is a lot likeDigg.com and he go VC money for it.Matter of fact, Digg is now rivaling Slashdot within the tech community. Who knows, maybe I'll muster up some energy and look into thisagain.Maybe come spring after the snow melts. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but somethinglike it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the frontpage-- like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best forindividual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it wouldwork for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example.That is a very good choice.Ifind that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away.Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need arereviewers and people who filter content for us.You would quicklyrecognize those people who directed you to great material.You'd alsolearn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless.Analternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an artist or in art class doesn'tmean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me findthe good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o)Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're rightabout that. :o) - Andreas--URL: http://www.solitude.dk/Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology.Yahoo! Groups Links --- --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a..Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b..To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c..Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!Terms of Service. --- --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo
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are reviewers and people who filter content for us.You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material.You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless.An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua KinbergTo: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an artist or in art class doesn't mean thatyou make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links --- --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a..Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b..To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c..Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- --- Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / VlogosphereAggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Thanks for that suggestion. It would work if people knew they could get the information that way. Maybe a text message on top of the links. Visible text under the link would be so much better. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Philip Clark To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:48 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Someone should develop "explained" linking. In other words, if I link to jonny goldstein (which I have) I say (great humor). That would help people decide if they were interested. If this can be done and I just don't know how, excuse my ignorance. Has anyone done this?well... i s'pose you could use the 'title' attribute with your 'a href.'something like this-- a href=""http://jonnygoldstein.com/">http://jonnygoldstein.com/" title="Great humor!"Jonny Goldstein/a that way, whenever anyone moves their cursor over the Jonny Goldstein link, a little box pops up as a tooltip containing the words 'Great humor!'more at: http://tinyurl.com/6uo99--xo philiphttp://swordfight.org videobloghttp://destroyhotaction.com remix pr0n vloghttp://vlogforum.org videoblog messageboard YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Wow, I never thought of that. That is even more evidence that "links" are artificial ways to rise in search engines rather than real connections to other people/vloggers. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Bill Streeter To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories I use Wordpress and it allows you to ad comments to each link. But I don't use this feature, I opt to categorize my links. So I guess that accomplishes kind of the same thing. One of the problems of linking in an aggregated media world is the fact that if you get most of your vlogs via aggregator then how likely are you to see links on any given blog? I rarely if ever visit any actual video blog unless I'm commenting and the comment pages of most blogs don't show the links. It seems that at that point links are more important to machines (like search engines) seeing relationships than for humans. Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone should develop "explained" linking. In other words, if I link to jonny goldstein (which I have) I say (great humor). That would help people decide if they were interested. If this can be done and I just don't know how, excuse my ignorance. Has anyone done this? well... i s'pose you could use the 'title' attribute with your 'a href.' something like this-- a href=""http://jonnygoldstein.com/">http://jonnygoldstein.com/" title="Great humor!"Jonny Goldstein/a that way, whenever anyone moves their cursor over the Jonny Goldstein link, a little box pops up as a tooltip containing the words 'Great humor!' more at: http://tinyurl.com/6uo99 -- xo philip http://swordfight.org videoblog http://destroyhotaction.com remix pr0n vlog http://vlogforum.org videoblog messageboard YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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for individual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an artist or in art class doesn't mean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links --- --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- --- Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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: Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page-- like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best for individual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an artist or in art class doesn't mean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links --- --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- --- Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 22:58:52 +0100, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the problems of linking in an aggregated media world is the fact that if you get most of your vlogs via aggregator then how likely are you to see links on any given blog? Since adding links to the videos themselves is too friggin' hard for the common man right now... Write like a blogger. A video description could look like this: I saw Joe's attempt at making pancakes yesterday. This morning I decided to try it myself. I used to recipe Jane posted last month. With links to: - Joe's blog - Joe's entry with his failed pancake attempt - Jane's blog - Jane's recipe Adapt for your videos, spread some links around. Rinse and repeat. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories
Steve Garfield's Vlog Soup posts are a great example of such links. He's got a link in the post for every single site that is mentioned in the video. On 12/5/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 22:58:52 +0100, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the problems of linking in an aggregated media world is the fact that if you get most of your vlogs via aggregator then how likely are you to see links on any given blog? Since adding links to the videos themselves is too friggin' hard for the common man right now... Write like a blogger. A video description could look like this: I saw Joe's attempt at making pancakes yesterday. This morning I decided to try it myself. I used to recipe Jane posted last month. With links to: - Joe's blog - Joe's entry with his failed pancake attempt - Jane's blog - Jane's recipe Adapt for your videos, spread some links around. Rinse and repeat. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links -- ~Devlon http://mefeedia.com/ See what we are up to: http://mefeedia.com/blog/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: making directories
vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an artist or in art class doesn't mean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links --- --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- --- Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Making directories
Yeah this is one of the principles that Google was based on. But it's tot linking too other blogs that increases your search engine rank, it's other sites that link to you. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, I never thought of that. That is even more evidence that links are artificial ways to rise in search engines rather than real connections to other people/vloggers. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Bill Streeter To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories I use Wordpress and it allows you to ad comments to each link. But I don't use this feature, I opt to categorize my links. So I guess that accomplishes kind of the same thing. One of the problems of linking in an aggregated media world is the fact that if you get most of your vlogs via aggregator then how likely are you to see links on any given blog? I rarely if ever visit any actual video blog unless I'm commenting and the comment pages of most blogs don't show the links. It seems that at that point links are more important to machines (like search engines) seeing relationships than for humans. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone should develop explained linking. In other words, if I link to jonny goldstein (which I have) I say (great humor). That would help people decide if they were interested. If this can be done and I just don't know how, excuse my ignorance. Has anyone done this? well... i s'pose you could use the 'title' attribute with your 'a href.' something like this-- a href=http://jonnygoldstein.com/; title=Great humor!Jonny Goldstein/a that way, whenever anyone moves their cursor over the Jonny Goldstein link, a little box pops up as a tooltip containing the words 'Great humor!' more at: http://tinyurl.com/6uo99 -- xo philip http://swordfight.org videoblog http://destroyhotaction.com remix pr0n vlog http://vlogforum.org videoblog messageboard SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories
I love Steve Garfield's stuff in general and "Vlog Soup" in particular. Indeed, Steve's soups are super but that is because he knows how to take a lot of mediocre stuff (the best of each) and whip it into a super mix. I checked out some of his links and saw that he had a great eye for those few unique seconds in an otherwise boring vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Devlon To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories Steve Garfield's "Vlog Soup" posts are a great example of such links. He's got a link in the post for every single site that is mentioned inthe video.On 12/5/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 22:58:52 +0100, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the problems of linking in an aggregated media world is the fact that if you get most of your vlogs via aggregator then how likely are you to see links on any given blog? Since adding links to the videos themselves is too friggin' hard for the common man right now... Write like a blogger. A video description could look like this: "I saw Joe's attempt at making pancakes yesterday. This morning I decided to try it myself. I used to recipe Jane posted last month." With links to: - Joe's blog - Joe's entry with his failed pancake attempt - Jane's blog - Jane's recipe Adapt for your videos, spread some links around. Rinse and repeat. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links--~Devlonhttp://mefeedia.com/See what we are up to:http://mefeedia.com/blog/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: making directories
). It was probably for the better since my time is very limited. My buddy is about to launch NewsVine.com which is a lot like Digg.com and he go VC money for it. Matter of fact, Digg is now rivaling Slashdot within the tech community. Who knows, maybe I'll muster up some energy and look into this again. Maybe come spring after the snow melts. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page-- like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best for individual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an artist or in art class doesn't mean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links --- --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- --- Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine. I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being goodarbitrators of how good content might be. He uses art as an example.That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten art vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away.Taste is a very subjective thing. Directories are the topic but what we really need arereviewers and people who filter content for us.You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material.You'd alsolearn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless.Analternative would be directories where vlog producers could postone-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an artist or in art classdoesn't mean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find thegood back to the subject of thread please. :-) -joshOn 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture andtechnology. Yahoo! Groups Links --- --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a..Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b..To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c..Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to theYahoo! Terms of Service. --- --- Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / VlogosphereAggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad
[videoblogging] Re: making directories
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 18:01:31 +0100, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I have what is agreed to be a videoblog, and for whatever reason my latest post contains a long video... 20 minutes. Your going to tell me that I no longer have a videoblog and this was not a videoblog post? I'm not going to tell you anything. The definition however isn't up to the individual, but a community. I can record a five second clip of a lamp and call it a western, but that doesn't make it one. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Unless you're in Art class. ;) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
Just because you're an artist or in art class doesn't mean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: making directories
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just because you're an artist or in art class doesn't mean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh Sorry, having fun. Carry on. On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
Antidisestablishmentarianists! On Dec 4, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Enric wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just because you're an artist or in art class doesn't mean that you make good art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the good back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh Sorry, having fun. Carry on. On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: making directories
You're assuming that the lact of a directory is a problem. Here's my view. First, with video, you need a lot more info to decide where to put your attention than with text, because video demands more attention (you can't just quickly scan it like a text post, for example). So for video, you need more filters, metadata, information that helps you decide what to put your limited attention towards. It's an attention war. Hence, directories can be useful. Second: we as vloggers, for some reason, aren't really linking a lot to each other's videos. I'm not sure why that is. But it does mean that we have less interlinking than textbloggers to help people discover new stuff. Hence, a directory makes sense, again. Third: search for video is an unsolved problem, and will continue to be, especially for our type of long tail video. Hence, .. you get the picture :) Then again I could be wrong also and Google might come out with a great algorythmic way to find videos you want to watch, or we might all start linking like crazy to each others videos and we wouldn't need directories to discover cool stuff. Oh well. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
