Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-02-02 Thread Markus Sandy
speaking of robots this came thru recently on http://del.icio.us/rss/tag/system:media:video+watchthis Ms. Kitka wrote: OR you could just make a funky robotics video, Rocketboomers love that stuff! Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Edmund Yeo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-02-02 Thread Markus Sandy
oops, forgot the link to the video http://www.eugenemirman.com/videos/Robot.mov Markus Sandy wrote: speaking of robots this came thru recently on http://del.icio.us/rss/tag/system:media:video+watchthis Ms. Kitka wrote: OR you could just make a funky robotics video,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-02-02 Thread Kunga
According to the CBS interview last August, the space of a 15 second ad is worth about $750,000 a year now @ 150,000 circulation. So their reserve should be about $15,000 for a week of 15 second or $30,000 for a week of 30 second ads, perhaps $60,000 for a one minute ad x 5. I imagine they

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-02-01 Thread Ronen
On 2/1/06, doron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i get the feeling that history is unfolding in front of our eyes. awesome !!indeed.Interesting to see who's bidding SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-31 Thread Markus Sandy
Good topic for a vid conf tip - changing to a new thread. Enric wrote: It takes me awhile to think things through sometimes (often.) I think as administrator/booker of the Tuesday Saturday Flash Meetings that there should be a Terms of Service stating among other things how anyone with admin

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-31 Thread robert a/k/a r
Done. LOL, you just out ran rocketboom ;) On Jan 31, 2006, at 4:25 PM, Susan wrote: I'd be happy to get $5 - a dollar a day for a week - to exploit someone for a five second increment in my vlog posts. Any buyers? ;) Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com --- In

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-31 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Obviously we've all got the wrong approach to making money... We're thinking 'videoblogging' when we should be thinking 'video podcast' See: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/ You just need to enter the podcasting world and wait for PodShow to make you some sort of offer. So to recap: 1. Create

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-31 Thread Stephanie Bryant
So, David, it's not the money you have a problem with. It's the influence that money brings. I wonder if other motivators/value-markers that can also influence content are as soul-destroying. For instance: I love my husband. Our love is generally a positive thing. BUT: his influence has

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-31 Thread Kunga
Well what I love about GeekBrief.tv is a combination of Charisma, femininity in the form of Cali Lewis as well as excellent production values and BRANDING. Neal and Laura are really an excellent team. Wonder where they are. And the Podshow HQ is in San Francisco. Excellent. I'm seriously

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Rachel Knight
I've not really been keeping up, I try to keep out of the Rocketboom social minefield, but I read the blogarithms link you gave.  So if Amanda and Andrew will be making the ads and vetoing, I don't know how much response they will get, but then, 130,000 downloads per day, as global viewing

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Rachel Knight
Bit over the top, David.  There have to be ads on TV to pay for making the programs, it's not cheap.  What we vloggers do is cheap, and it's a hobby, so we spend the money without any desire to recoup it.  Some media sites probably have the same problem as TV - it's not a hobby, it's not done in

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Rachel Knight
Kunga, Enric, Markus,I realise that this is probably settled by now, but calm down.  People have different opinions, they express them.  No need for a punch up.  Remember, cat fights are for girls, stop betraying your hormones.  Rachel (Alternative Kitten)On 30 Jan 2006, at 04:20, Markus Sandy

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:47:50 +0100, Rachel Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bit over the top, David. There have to be ads on TV to pay for making the programs, it's not cheap. There don't have to be ads on tv, no more than there have to be ads anywhere else. Is the BBC running ads now? I

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Rachel Knight
Point Andreas.  But BBC and HBO are paid for by subscription (or in the case of the BBC, by TV Licence).  There is no subscription cost for most vlogs that I know of, so that does not pay for it either.  And the only ones the tax payer would pay for are Government sponsored/produced items.  

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Rachel Knight
Not a problem David, but if the ads are your choice whether to watch them, then they won't pay as much, as they are not guaranteed as large an audience to target.  As most vlogging is a hobby, I don't think it will apply for a long time, but anyone who wants to go commercial will have to find

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Steve Garfield
That's funny, I watch LOST on TiVo and have NO IDEA what 118118 is. There are ads that I am missing by fast forwarding with TiVo. On the other hand, some shows have ads that I enjoy. Entertaining ads. I like the new BMW 'Video Podcast'. I'm subscribed to that. It's all one ad after another

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Michael Sullivan
but what if the ad is a video commercial? this is where much new experimentation will be done... not image/text ads.On 1/30/06, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Here is a simple solution for that. Took me all of 30 seconds to think about it.User clicks link to video.Window opens with video

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Michael Sullivan
I like the new BMW 'Video Podcast'.a believe you mean the BMW VODCAST ;-) had to do it.http://vodcast.bmw.com/and yes, it is a great example.i still think bmwfilms.com is a great project as well.love companies that experiment like this. SullOn 1/30/06, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread rob
d by the crassness of those statements:apologies in advance. i'll try to avoid reading email in the morning from now on. - Original Message - From: Rachel Knight To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Charles HOPE
Rachel Knight wrote: Kunga, Enric, Markus, I realise that this is probably settled by now, but calm down. People have different opinions, they express them. No need for a punch up. Remember, cat fights are for girls, stop betraying your hormones. Yes, gentlemen. That's right.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread WWWhatsup
-- -- I think the way they are doing it is analogous to those ads on the radio when the dj just has to basically talk about the product for a minute or whatever If you are a fan of the dj's style you'll enjoy him/her regardless of the subject matter I look forward to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Michael Sullivan
bottom line in my opinion is thisif your audience appreciates your work and is at least half-witty as to why you are trying such ad placements, then they should be happy to watch 15-30 seconds of this ad in order to support you. if they are completely turned off by this approach and stop

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Pete Prodoehl
WWWhatsup wrote: I think the way they are doing it is analogous to those ads on the radio when the dj just has to basically talk about the product for a minute or whatever If you are a fan of the dj's style you'll enjoy him/her regardless of the subject matter I look forward to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Charles HOPE wrote: rob wrote: it was mentioned that free lunches are a great thing, but i've not yet found one: but possibly u did. distorting history to argue a point-of-view is akin to a free lunch... at the very least, it's relying on others ignorance to press home an advantage.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Brett Gaylor
I think it totally kicks ass. bravo. there's so much space in this game - if they were off setting their costs by subscription someone else would be whining. BUT I think we should all be thinking of interesting ways to get micro-payments to work. because I wouldn't put adds on my personal

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Ms. Kitka wrote: David, I urge you to read the terms of the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:11item=5661816188 Rocketboom is not only selling advertising time on their videoblog, they are making the ads themselves, placing them at the end of

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Paul Knight
Hi Andreas, What you are referring to there is Subscription based TV. Nothing is free. The BBC charges us £120 a year just for having the technology to be able to recieve TV pictures, they call it a TV licence, it's like a dog licence except you don't have to take it for walks. As far as I know

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Markus Sandy
you can take my old tv cable fees and divide it amongst yourselves. actually, take half - then it will seem like a good deal and not just a replacement the problem is: how do we divide it up and pay it out from so many to so many? this problem already has solutions in the music industry;

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Ronen
$3 a month?On 1/30/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much would you pay for an ad free version of a video blog you really enjoyed? Bill --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read the terms. You know...maybe this isnt such a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-30 Thread Brett Gaylor
No amount of debate from anyone voicing the virtues of making a quick buck from their online videos is going to change my opinion. The way I see it, they had the stones to gamble for a year making content for free - dropped everything and went after rocketboom. It's not a quick buck. Like you

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-29 Thread Markus Sandy
Not *everyone* wants ads Kunga. Were you not listening yesterday in the video conference when several people gave you flack about your gross generalizations? As with many things, on-line auctions may work well for some and not for others. Here's a question for all: will you try this and, if

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-29 Thread Ted Tagami
Andrew and Amanda have thought alot about the auction's short and long term issues, and I believe they are seeking to strike an ideal balance between revenue with transparency and sponsorships. On 1/29/06, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I am an A-List vlogger by any means,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-29 Thread Devlon
Personally, it's not my drive since my videoblogs are for me to muck with video and have a record of my life. ...but I am glad they did it. It will be interesting to see how it all pans out. On 1/29/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not *everyone* wants ads Kunga. Were you not

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-29 Thread Kunga
I wasn't there. -- Taylor Barcroft http://www.blogger.com/profile/11159903 New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 On

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-29 Thread Michael Sullivan
yep.popular tactic on some radio talk shows where the ads are almost entirely transparent from the regular talk show bit.it works well.for video it will be interesting. rboom can command such terms. often, thats not the case. but i am happy to see andrew and amanda take control of their

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-29 Thread Markus Sandy
it's still a gross generalization - opinion or not and i think you have no clue what most people understand (nor do I for that matter) thanks for speaking for him though :) Enric wrote: Taylor is expressing his point of view, I think most people understand that. -- Enric --- In

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-29 Thread Markus Sandy
too bad enric. if someone claims something about *all* of us, I will free to disagree if I wish. Enric wrote: I like you Markus and applaud the things you do to make videoblogging available to people. However I find your shaming of Taylor disturbing. -- Enric --- In

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-29 Thread Michael Sullivan
unless everyone is an inference to those who have a relevant interest in advertisingwhich is where maybe assuming can have benefit.ok enough of this hyperbole.cheers-Sull On 1/29/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: too bad enric. if someone claims something about *all* of

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-29 Thread Kunga
Of course I meant: IF THEY WANT TO. Pardon my lack of precision. I doubt anyone here thinks I think everyone wants ads in their videos. Of course not everyone wants ads. I didn't think I needed to write that to express my enthusiasm for Andrew's innovative approach to the problem. Thank

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-29 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Kunga, Try not to take it personally. I think your comments and enthusiasm are welcome here. Its a big group and people definitely battle out ideas sometimes. Don't let any one person get you down. -josh On 1/29/06, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course I meant: IF THEY WANT TO.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?

2006-01-29 Thread Markus Sandy
people often disagree in this group taylor, but you generally characterize any remark from me as an attack. please chill out. this passive/aggressive bs is old hat by now and yes, precision in statements often helps Kunga wrote: Of course I meant: IF THEY WANT TO. Pardon my lack of