Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
According to the CBS interview last August, the space of a 15 second ad is worth about $750,000 a year now @ 150,000 circulation. So their reserve should be about $15,000 for a week of 15 second or $30,000 for a week of 30 second ads, perhaps $60,000 for a one minute ad x 5. I imagine they will produce length according to how high the winning bid is. -- Taylor Barcroft http://www.blogger.com/profile/11159903 New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 On Feb 2, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Pete Prodoehl wrote: > Ms. Kitka wrote: >> I don't know, Edmund, what ads would they show for your money during >> the REST of your birthday week? It's funny because my birthday's on >> the 13th and I was planning on being the first to place a bid to >> advertise on Rocketboom (as a supportive gesture, of course, knowing >> that I wouldn't actually win by only bidding $1000), but now that >> it's >> up to $15,000.00, it's not a wise gamble for me anymore. > > The top bid right now is US $14,999.99 but it also says "Reserve > not met" > > Andrew, I'm guessing you do not want to reveal the reserve price? > > Everyone else, care to guess what it is? ;) > > > Pete > > -- > http://tinkernet.org/ > videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
Ms. Kitka wrote: > I don't know, Edmund, what ads would they show for your money during > the REST of your birthday week? It's funny because my birthday's on > the 13th and I was planning on being the first to place a bid to > advertise on Rocketboom (as a supportive gesture, of course, knowing > that I wouldn't actually win by only bidding $1000), but now that it's > up to $15,000.00, it's not a wise gamble for me anymore. The top bid right now is US $14,999.99 but it also says "Reserve not met" Andrew, I'm guessing you do not want to reveal the reserve price? Everyone else, care to guess what it is? ;) Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
oops, forgot the link to the video http://www.eugenemirman.com/videos/Robot.mov Markus Sandy wrote: speaking of robots this came thru recently on http://del.icio.us/rss/tag/system:media:video+watchthis Ms. Kitka wrote: OR you could just make a funky robotics video, Rocketboomers love that stuff! Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Edmund Yeo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh, er, wait. That's pretty damned expensive. And after the conversion, it's even going to be insaner. (1 US dollars = nearly 4 Malaysian dollars, it's obviously impossible for a poor penniless uni student like me to get an ad. I feel... so helpless, so useless.) Maybe I'll spend the rest of the month making videos praising Rocketboom's greatness in hyperbolic, Chuck Norris fact generator-esque ways to win their sympathy thus they will advertise my humble blog for free. Edmund Yeo http://swiftywriting.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Ms. Kitka" wrote: I don't know, Edmund, what ads would they show for your money during the REST of your birthday week? It's funny because my birthday's on the 13th and I was planning on being the first to place a bid to advertise on Rocketboom (as a supportive gesture, of course, knowing that I wouldn't actually win by only bidding $1000), but now that it's up to $15,000.00, it's not a wise gamble for me anymore. Wouldn't it be funny if a group of videobloggers bought the advertizing time and had Rocketboom make ads for their own shows. Heck, they've already made an homage to Ask A Ninja... Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Edmund Yeo" wrote: This is random. But 6th of March is my birthday, yy! Perhaps I'll bid to have them mention that it is my birthday. Edmund Yeo http://swiftywriting.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga wrote: I'll bet that the Rocketboom downloads that week - March 6-10 - rise significantly if not radically. By early March this is going to be on the cover of Advertising Age and will be the biggest story in the world of advertising. Whoever wins that bid is going to reap HUGE benefit from the ancillary exposure. It will be a historical moment in the history of media as well as advertising and marketing. -- Taylor Barcroft http://www.blogger.com/profile/11159903 New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 On Jan 30, 2006, at 8:44 AM, andrew michael baron wrote: Here is the link, the auction is live now: http://tinyurl.com/czs5s On Jan 28, 2006, at 6:52 PM, andrew michael baron wrote: The story you link to is the gist, but not quite right on some of the detail but here is a better example: http://pdberger.com/blogarithms-rocketboom/ http://www.whatsnextblog.com/archives/2006/01/ rocketboom_to_auction_ad_slot.asp This all happened a bit early, I'll send a link tomrrow night to the actual e-bay ad itself. Gulp. On Jan 28, 2006, at 6:19 PM, James A. Donnelly wrote: Interesting concept http://www.adrants.com/2006/01/rocketboom-to-sell-ad-time-via-ebay- retai.php jad madpod.com petsonboard.com dummycast.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apper
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
speaking of robots this came thru recently on http://del.icio.us/rss/tag/system:media:video+watchthis Ms. Kitka wrote: OR you could just make a funky robotics video, Rocketboomers love that stuff! Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Edmund Yeo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh, er, wait. That's pretty damned expensive. And after the conversion, it's even going to be insaner. (1 US dollars = nearly 4 Malaysian dollars, it's obviously impossible for a poor penniless uni student like me to get an ad. I feel... so helpless, so useless.) Maybe I'll spend the rest of the month making videos praising Rocketboom's greatness in hyperbolic, Chuck Norris fact generator-esque ways to win their sympathy thus they will advertise my humble blog for free. Edmund Yeo http://swiftywriting.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Ms. Kitka" wrote: I don't know, Edmund, what ads would they show for your money during the REST of your birthday week? It's funny because my birthday's on the 13th and I was planning on being the first to place a bid to advertise on Rocketboom (as a supportive gesture, of course, knowing that I wouldn't actually win by only bidding $1000), but now that it's up to $15,000.00, it's not a wise gamble for me anymore. Wouldn't it be funny if a group of videobloggers bought the advertizing time and had Rocketboom make ads for their own shows. Heck, they've already made an homage to Ask A Ninja... Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Edmund Yeo" wrote: This is random. But 6th of March is my birthday, yy! Perhaps I'll bid to have them mention that it is my birthday. Edmund Yeo http://swiftywriting.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga wrote: I'll bet that the Rocketboom downloads that week - March 6-10 - rise significantly if not radically. By early March this is going to be on the cover of Advertising Age and will be the biggest story in the world of advertising. Whoever wins that bid is going to reap HUGE benefit from the ancillary exposure. It will be a historical moment in the history of media as well as advertising and marketing. -- Taylor Barcroft http://www.blogger.com/profile/11159903 New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 On Jan 30, 2006, at 8:44 AM, andrew michael baron wrote: Here is the link, the auction is live now: http://tinyurl.com/czs5s On Jan 28, 2006, at 6:52 PM, andrew michael baron wrote: The story you link to is the gist, but not quite right on some of the detail but here is a better example: http://pdberger.com/blogarithms-rocketboom/ http://www.whatsnextblog.com/archives/2006/01/ rocketboom_to_auction_ad_slot.asp This all happened a bit early, I'll send a link tomrrow night to the actual e-bay ad itself. Gulp. On Jan 28, 2006, at 6:19 PM, James A. Donnelly wrote: Interesting concept http://www.adrants.com/2006/01/rocketboom-to-sell-ad-time-via-ebay- retai.php jad madpod.com petsonboard.com dummycast.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual
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Well what I love about GeekBrief.tv is a combination of Charisma, femininity in the form of "Cali Lewis" as well as excellent production values and BRANDING. Neal and Laura are really an excellent team. Wonder where they are. And the Podshow HQ is in San Francisco. Excellent. I'm seriously hooked on what Podshow is doing as well as the GeekBrief.tv BRAND. -- Taylor Barcroft http://www.blogger.com/profile/11159903 New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 On Jan 31, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Pete Prodoehl wrote: > Obviously we've all got the wrong approach to making money... We're > thinking 'videoblogging' when we should be thinking 'video podcast' > > See: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/ > > You just need to enter the podcasting world and wait for PodShow to > make > you some sort of offer. > > So to recap: > > 1. Create "Video Podcast" > 2. Hookup with PodShow > 3. > 4. Profit! > > > Pete > > -- > http://tinkernet.org/ > videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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So, David, it's not the money you have a problem with. It's the influence that money brings. I wonder if other motivators/value-markers that can also influence content are as soul-destroying. For instance: I love my husband. Our love is generally a positive thing. BUT: his influence has changed/removed some of my vlog content. Is that a bad thing or not? I'm also motivated by audience comments-- I love it when people say stuff about my vlog! Don't we all just love the attention sometimes? Is fame/attention a negative motivator? If "the fans" want one thing in particular from you, at what point is it as damaging as when the corporations want you to dance to their own tune for pay? I know many writers who have answered the cries of their fans to the point where their work is virtually unreadable, so full of fan-insertions, in-jokes, and repetitions of the same tired stories and characters. This happens in TV all the time, and movies to a lesser degree, because both of those are much greater financial risks. In novels, however, publishers are willing to risk a certain amount of money on the percentage of the fans who are guaranteed to buy the book. At what point does the author say "no, that's just not what I should write anymore"? Even without the monetary incentive-- the fans are crying for it! [Case in point: the Firefly, Season Two campaign that's going on right now, despite Joss Whedon's assurances that Serenity was the end.] Err... but I digress. I'm less conscious of money than I should be-- even though it's a direct, value-oriented thing, I have a hard time keeping it in the forefront of my brain. Which is not to say I don't love money and the things I can do with it (mostly purchasing small, expensive electronic gizmos). But rather, money is only motivating to a point: Money is a major motivator when you can't afford to buy a baked potato for lunch. Money is a strong motivator when you're barely able to afford health insurance. Money stops motivating most people when they can cover their bills and tuck a small amount (never enough) into a savings account, and provide for their children, if applicable. For childless folks, money is even less motivating-- once I have enough to carry me into my nineties, exactly what more do I need? I would say that someone giving me $10,000 to run ads on my videoblog would just convince me to turn that particular domain into their corporate mouthpiece. Which is fine-- I have never been so proud that I was unwilling to sell what few talents I have for cash. When I was fifteen and in the throes of "teenaged writer angst," I was still looking forward to the day I envisioned, of myself selling ad copy as a corporate shill. Hey, it's only soul-destroying if you let it touch your soul. If I were given $10K for my vlog, I'd probably shortly start up my own personal free vlog space elsewhere, basically starting over, because I'd still need my own voice somewhere, independent and without strings attached. And, well, the corporation would probably need to have it in the contract that I'd update their vlog more often than my own, because if not, I know which one is more interesting to me to update anyway --Stephanie On 1/31/06, David Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What bothers me about what could happen with in-video advertising is > this. A vlog sells advertising and dictates that they control how the > ad is displayed. They say the ad will be created by them and only run > at the end of the video. It's a small sum of money. $500. Fine. Ad > runs at the end. -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
Obviously we've all got the wrong approach to making money... We're thinking 'videoblogging' when we should be thinking 'video podcast' See: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/ You just need to enter the podcasting world and wait for PodShow to make you some sort of offer. So to recap: 1. Create "Video Podcast" 2. Hookup with PodShow 3. 4. Profit! Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Done. LOL, you just out ran rocketboom ;) On Jan 31, 2006, at 4:25 PM, Susan wrote: > I'd be happy to get $5 - a dollar a day for a week - to exploit > someone for a five second increment in my vlog posts. > > Any buyers? ;) > Susan > http://vlog.kitykity.com > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Not *everyone* wants ads Kunga. >> >> Were you not listening yesterday in the video conference when several >> people gave you flack about your gross generalizations? >> >> As with many things, on-line auctions may work well for some and not > for >> others. >> >> Here's a question for all: will you try this and, if so, will you tend >> to set reserves or take whatever you can get? >> >> >> >> >> Kunga wrote: >> >>> I think this may be a way for everyone to garner ads. I love it. >>> Brilliant path! >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us >> >> http://apperceptions.org >> http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com >> http://node101.org >> http://spinflow.org >> http://wearethemedia.com >> http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com >> >> aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype: msandy >> spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
Good topic for a vid conf tip - changing to a new thread. Enric wrote: >It takes me awhile to think things through sometimes (often.) I think >as administrator/booker of the Tuesday & Saturday Flash Meetings that >there should be a Terms of Service stating among other things how >anyone with admin rights will use and reference the material in the >meetings, under which grounds people will be prohibited from meetings >and such. > > -- Enric > > -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
No amount of debate from anyone voicing the virtues of making a quick buck from their online videos is going to change my opinion. The way I see it, they had the stones to gamble for a year making content for free - dropped everything and went after rocketboom. It's not a quick buck. Like you said, takes all kinds. ---Brett Gaylorhttp://www.etherworks.cahttp://www.homelessnation.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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$3 a month?On 1/30/06, Bill Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How much would you pay for an ad free version of a video blog you really enjoyed? Bill --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've read the terms. > > You know...maybe this isnt such a bad thing? All those people out > there that dislike advertising on the internet > (http://adblock.mozdev.org/ et al) may just stop visiting vloggers > sites with in-video ads and they will all go to those that arent > showing ads. > > Yes. This may be a good thing. > > David > http://www.taoofdavid.com > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Ms. Kitka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > David, I urge you to read the terms of the auction: > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:11&item=5661816188 > > > > Rocketboom is not only selling advertising time on their videoblog, > > they are making the ads themselves, placing them at the end of their > > show and making them in such a way that their viewers will actually > > enjoy the ad. > > > > Why do so many people here think this is such a horrible thing? They > > are being creative and taking their audience into consideration all at > > the same time. Besides, it's not the first time they've aired > > advertisements on their show... they've been doing that for a long > > time (my favorite was the Flickr ad). > > > > Lighten up people. > > Kitka > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Huh? > > > > > > I believe the one with the most $$$ generally wins an auction. > > > > > > I havent looked at the terms (if there are terms) of the Rocketboom > > > EBay auction so I dont know how they have veto power. > > > > > > David > > > http://www.taoofdavid.com > > > > > > > I think the big difference in Rocketboom's case is that they are > > taking > > > > control. They aren't just 'selling space' to anyone with the money, > > > they > > > > are selling space with veto power over it. How many creatives get > > to do > > > > that? > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > -- > > > > http://tinkernet.org/ > > > > videoblog for the future... > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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you can take my old tv cable fees and divide it amongst yourselves. actually, take half - then it will seem like a good deal and not just a replacement the problem is: how do we divide it up and pay it out from so many to so many? this problem already has solutions in the music industry; some are mo betta than others, of course Bill Streeter wrote: How much would you pay for an ad free version of a video blog you really enjoyed? Bill --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've read the terms. You know...maybe this isnt such a bad thing? All those people out there that dislike advertising on the internet (http://adblock.mozdev.org/ et al) may just stop visiting vloggers sites with in-video ads and they will all go to those that arent showing ads. Yes. This may be a good thing. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Ms. Kitka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David, I urge you to read the terms of the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:11&item=5661816188 Rocketboom is not only selling advertising time on their videoblog, they are making the ads themselves, placing them at the end of their show and making them in such a way that their viewers will actually enjoy the ad. Why do so many people here think this is such a horrible thing? They are being creative and taking their audience into consideration all at the same time. Besides, it's not the first time they've aired advertisements on their show... they've been doing that for a long time (my favorite was the Flickr ad). Lighten up people. Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Huh? I believe the one with the most $$$ generally wins an auction. I havent looked at the terms (if there are terms) of the Rocketboom EBay auction so I dont know how they have veto power. David http://www.taoofdavid.com I think the big difference in Rocketboom's case is that they are taking control. They aren't just 'selling space' to anyone with the money, they are selling space with veto power over it. How many creatives get to do that? Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Hi Andreas, What you are referring to there is Subscription based TV. Nothing is free. The BBC charges us £120 a year just for having the technology to be able to recieve TV pictures, they call it a TV licence, it's like a dog licence except you don't have to take it for walks. As far as I know HBO is a Pay To View. As for the Danish, dunno, you know that bit. But then the question is. would you pay to watch Rocketboom? Ads are the only way to go for these guys unfortunately if they want to do this thing full time. That's my two pence worth anyway.. Paul Knight On 30 Jan 2006, at 15:07, Andreas Haugstrup wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:47:50 +0100, Rachel Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bit over the top, David. There have to be ads on TV to pay for > making the programs, it's not cheap. There don't have to be ads on tv, no more than there have to be ads anywhere else. Is the BBC running ads now? I know the Danish public service provider is not and have never run ads on either of their two channels. HBO is the US is not running ads either. Someone has to pay for the programming, but it doesn't have to be financed via ads. - Andreas -- http://www.solitude.dk/ > Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ▪ Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Do yourself a favour and Visit my Vlog http://pjkproductions.blogspot.com http://www.dailymotion.com/pjkproductions http://pjkproductions.blip.tv http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pjkproductions http://feeds.feedburner.com/pjkproductions It's worth a laugh and (mostly) work friendly.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
Ms. Kitka wrote: > David, I urge you to read the terms of the auction: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:11&item=5661816188 > > Rocketboom is not only selling advertising time on their videoblog, > they are making the ads themselves, placing them at the end of their > show and making them in such a way that their viewers will actually > enjoy the ad. > > Why do so many people here think this is such a horrible thing? They > are being creative and taking their audience into consideration all at > the same time. Besides, it's not the first time they've aired > advertisements on their show... they've been doing that for a long > time (my favorite was the Flickr ad). Yup, that's what I was talking about when I said they were taking control. Just for the record, I don't think it's a bad thing, I think it's a great thing. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
I think it totally kicks ass. bravo. there's so much space in this game - if they were off setting their costs by subscription someone else would be whining. BUT I think we should all be thinking of interesting ways to get micro-payments to work. because I wouldn't put adds on my personal videblog, but I wanted be above accepting someones "content points" or something for a job well done. I look forward to seeing how this develops. b On 1/30/06, Ms. Kitka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David, I urge you to read the terms of the auction:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:11&item=5661816188 Rocketboom is not only selling advertising time on their videoblog,they are making the ads themselves, placing them at the end of theirshow and making them in such a way that their viewers will actually enjoy the ad.Why do so many people here think this is such a horrible thing? Theyare being creative and taking their audience into consideration all atthe same time. Besides, it's not the first time they've aired advertisements on their show... they've been doing that for a longtime (my favorite was the Flickr ad).Lighten up people.Kitka--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , "David Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>> Huh?>> I believe the one with the most $$$ generally wins an auction.>> I havent looked at the terms (if there are terms) of the Rocketboom > EBay auction so I dont know how they have veto power.>> David> http://www.taoofdavid.com>> > I think the big difference in Rocketboom's case is that they are taking> > control. They aren't just 'selling space' to anyone with the money,> they> > are selling space with veto power over it. How many creatives getto do> > that?> > > > Pete> >> > --> > http://tinkernet.org/> > videoblog for the future...> >>Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- ---Brett Gaylorhttp://www.etherworks.ca http://www.homelessnation.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Charles HOPE wrote: > rob wrote: >> it was mentioned that "free lunches are a great thing, but i've not yet >> found >> one": but possibly u did. >> >> distorting history to argue a point-of-view is akin to a "free lunch"... at >> the very least, it's relying on others ignorance to press home an advantage. >> >> David may or may not have been "over the top" but not by the argument that >> Capitalism has been around for "20,000 odd years" try 200 years... a >> Capitalist paradigm is an informative way to view the world. but it is not >> the >> only one, nor the one held by a majority of people. >> >> for the record: America (which i'm guessing is where the majority of people >> on >> this mailing list are from) is NOT a Capitalist society... it was /almost/ >> one >> in the 19th century (if that helps)... today the U.S.A is a mixed-ecomomy >> with placed freedoms and controls. > > In Rachel's defense, Capitalism is the system based on voluntary business > transactions and private ownership. Those two elements have existed forever, > but > only recently have they grown to dominant proportions yet, unfortunately, > never > in the complete absence of other paradigms which are all based on different > types of thievery and brutality. Can someone just make a videoblog post about Capitalism so we all know what you are talking about? Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
WWWhatsup wrote: > > I think the way they are doing it is analogous to those ads on the radio when > the dj > just has to basically talk about the product for a minute or whatever > > If you are a fan of the dj's style you'll enjoy him/her regardless of the > subject matter > > I look forward to seeing the winning products get (swings head to camera2) > 'rocketboomed'.. I think the big difference in Rocketboom's case is that they are taking control. They aren't just 'selling space' to anyone with the money, they are selling space with veto power over it. How many creatives get to do that? Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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bottom line in my opinion is thisif your audience appreciates your work and is at least half-witty as to why you are trying such ad placements, then they should be happy to watch 15-30 seconds of this ad in order to support you. if they are completely turned off by this approach and stop watching/supporting your work, then why would you care about them anyway?if they were watching and enjoying your work for however long they were 'subscribed' then they are the ones who were getting a deal consuming what you take the time to create and publish. if you are able to filter and use more quality ads then i dont think it should be looked at as bad or evil... what it is, folks, is reality.you're not going to keep Internet Video pure... whether a vlog or not... with your negative sentiment about ads and content creators who decide to use them for sustainability. look at it this way... if some subscribers drop off if you do use ads then you are filtering your viewer base with those who truly support you. screw the others. they can go blog about how ads suck and hwo vloggers are selling their souls, corrupting the culture and so on... you know... noisemaking. do what you want if it works for you. just make sure you do it well ;-)SullOn 1/30/06, David Howell < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Ah. Well...for me personally, I wouldnt run a video commercial. My solution was an attempt to avoid the commercials "in video".While I am not opposed to ads on a website, my wish is to notinterfere with the viewers experience of watching my/the content.I may or may not include an ad below my videos in a pop-up window. Still thinking about it. Would the small amount of revenue gained fromthat be worth it? Maybe. However if viewers dont watch my videosbecause of it, then I would certainly remove the ads.For Rocketboom, with the multitudes of viewers they have, an experiment like this may not be so harmful to lose a few viewers hereand there. For someone like me with a small amount of visitors, losinga any amount of people watching would make a difference.David http://www.taoofdavid.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > but what if the ad is a video commercial?> this is where much new experimentation will be done... notimage/text ads.>> On 1/30/06, David Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > > Here is a simple solution for that. Took me all of 30 seconds to think> > about it.> >> > User clicks link to video.> >> > Window opens with video in it and an ad placed below the video. > >> > Solution solved. Advertisers needs are met with the displaying if the> > ad throughout the whole video and the user gets immediate> > uninterrupted video content.> > > > Yes? No?> >> > David> > http://www.taoofdavid.com> >> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , Rachel Knight> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > >> > > Not a problem David, but if the ads are your choice whether to watch> > > them, then they won't pay as much, as they are not guaranteed as > > > large an audience to target.> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links> >> >> >> >> > > >> --> sull> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -> "The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth andrevelation > from which new form is born"> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -> http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory> http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / VlogosphereAggregator>Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -"The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born"- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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> >-- > >-- I think the way they are doing it is analogous to those ads on the radio when the dj just has to basically talk about the product for a minute or whatever If you are a fan of the dj's style you'll enjoy him/her regardless of the subject matter I look forward to seeing the winning products get (swings head to camera2) 'rocketboomed'.. joly --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com --- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Rachel Knight wrote: Kunga, Enric, Markus, I realise that this is probably settled by now, but calm down. People have different opinions, they express them. No need for a punch up. Remember, cat fights are for girls, stop betraying your hormones. Yes, gentlemen. That's right. Do not stoop to the level of mere females! You're better than that. I think that Taylor meant this is a great method for all advertising-interested vloggers. I agree. However, only a project the size of Rocketboom can boldly maintain editorial control. For the rest of us, the solution might need to be more interactive. -- Unlike most marine mammals, otters do not have a layer of insulating blubber, and even the marine sea otter must come ashore regularly to wash its coat in fresh water. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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rob wrote: it was mentioned that "free lunches are a great thing, but i've not yet found one": but possibly u did. distorting history to argue a point-of-view is akin to a "free lunch"... at the very least, it's relying on others ignorance to press home an advantage. David may or may not have been "over the top" but not by the argument that Capitalism has been around for "20,000 odd years" try 200 years... a Capitalist paradigm is an informative way to view the world. but it is not the only one, nor the one held by a majority of people. for the record: America (which i'm guessing is where the majority of people on this mailing list are from) is NOT a Capitalist society... it was almost one in the 19th century (if that helps)... today the U.S.A is a mixed-ecomomy with placed freedoms and controls. In Rachel's defense, Capitalism is the system based on voluntary business transactions and private ownership. Those two elements have existed forever, but only recently have they grown to dominant proportions yet, unfortunately, never in the complete absence of other paradigms which are all based on different types of thievery and brutality. -- Unlike most marine mammals, otters do not have a layer of insulating blubber, and even the marine sea otter must come ashore regularly to wash its coat in fresh water. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
it was mentioned that "free lunches are a great thing, but i've not yet found one": but possibly u did. distorting history to argue a point-of-view is akin to a "free lunch"... at the very least, it's relying on others ignorance to press home an advantage. David may or may not have been "over the top" but not by the argument that Capitalism has been around for "20,000 odd years" try 200 years... a Capitalist paradigm is an informative way to view the world. but it is not the only one, nor the one held by a majority of people. for the record: America (which i'm guessing is where the majority of people on this mailing list are from) is NOT a Capitalist society... it was almost one in the 19th century (if that helps)... today the U.S.A is a mixed-ecomomy with placed freedoms and controls. ~ in terms of public benefit: Police, Fire, Ambulance, Libraries, Museums, Galleries, Roads, Docks, Airports, Bridges are generally created with funds derived from taxation or endowments. neither of these require Capitalism to operate. ANY form of economic system will suffice. Vlogging could easily be seen as a public service... radio and television are already regarded as "essentials", not luxuries. if computers aren't yet, they will be soon. community channels, tho far from glitzy, serve a function that a national network can't: they serve the community. they still exist today because they are useful... useful is generally quite boring i admit, u won't find an equivalent to American Idol, but that isn't their purpose. ~ personally i think having a vlog with commercials or product placement would be an interesting experience. it's gonna happen more and more over time anyway. the potential for loss-of-freedom is obvious, but that is always a potential when SOMEONE ELSES money is involved. might not happen tho. the sponsor may not care about the content (which is quite likely as long as the number of viewers stays consistent). it's only when a subject that is threatening to the sponsor on a larger scale comes up that problems arise. overall i think it'd be great to be one-of-the-first vloggers doing something like that... a footnote in a history book sorta thing. cool. i don't really see why it matters if a person does or does not use commercials: you want the money, go get it. you want the freedom, go get it. you want a mix, go get it. make your choice. why does only one of them have to be "right"? why not "right for me" instead? that's the whole point anyway isn't it? l8r rob ps ~ sorry if the earlier part of what i wrote sounds rude, but i was mildly offended by the crassness of those statements: apologies in advance. i'll try to avoid reading email in the morning from now on. - Original Message - From: Rachel Knight To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay? Bit over the top, David. There have to be ads on TV to pay for making the programs, it's not cheap. What we vloggers do is cheap, and it's a hobby, so we spend the money without any desire to recoup it. Some media sites probably have the same problem as TV - it's not a hobby, it's not done in spare time, so they need to recoup some money to pay for what they are doing. I know not everyone agrees with the capitalist system, but it is the one that has worked best for the last 20,000 odd years, and I have not seen anyone come up with a better one yet. Free lunches are a great thing, but I've not yet found one. Rachel (Alternative Kitten) On 29 Jan 2006, at 15:59, David Howell wrote: Not that I am an A-List vlogger by any means, I wouldnt do this nomatter what the reason was.I do have Google Ads on my site and that's plenty. To insert ads intothe videos? In my opinion, that's just obnoxious to the viewer. As weare inundated with advertising on TV all the time, I would rather thatonline videos be clear of this crap.I hate the fact that big media sites force you to watch commercialsbefore their content. I refuse to watch their videos for that reasonalone. If vloggers started doing this, I wouldn't watch their videoseither.Davidhttp://www.taoofdavid.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Not *everyone* wants ads Kunga.> > Were you not listening yesterday in the video conference when several > people gave you flack about your gross generalizations?> > As with many things, on-line auctions may work well for some and notfor > others.> > Here's a questio
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
I like the new BMW 'Video Podcast'.a believe you mean the BMW VODCAST ;-) had to do it.http://vodcast.bmw.com/and yes, it is a great example.i still think bmwfilms.com is a great project as well.love companies that experiment like this. SullOn 1/30/06, Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's funny, I watch LOST on TiVo and have NO IDEA what 118118 is.There are ads that I am missing by fast forwarding with TiVo.On the other hand, some shows have ads that I enjoy. Entertaining ads. I like the new BMW 'Video Podcast'.I'm subscribed to that. It's all one ad after another for BMW and Ilove it.On Jan 30, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Rachel Knight wrote:> I love the program Lost, but if I see the ad for 118118 one more > time, I will kill something.--Steve--http://SteveGarfield.comhttp://Rocketboom.com"You are worth like 50 million danishes." - Amy Carpenter Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -"The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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but what if the ad is a video commercial? this is where much new experimentation will be done... not image/text ads.On 1/30/06, David Howell < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Here is a simple solution for that. Took me all of 30 seconds to think about it.User clicks link to video.Window opens with video in it and an ad placed below the video.Solution solved. Advertisers needs are met with the displaying if thead throughout the whole video and the user gets immediate uninterrupted video content.Yes? No?Davidhttp://www.taoofdavid.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , Rachel Knight<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Not a problem David, but if the ads are your choice whether to watch> them, then they won't pay as much, as they are not guaranteed as > large an audience to target.Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born"- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
That's funny, I watch LOST on TiVo and have NO IDEA what 118118 is. There are ads that I am missing by fast forwarding with TiVo. On the other hand, some shows have ads that I enjoy. Entertaining ads. I like the new BMW 'Video Podcast'. I'm subscribed to that. It's all one ad after another for BMW and I love it. On Jan 30, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Rachel Knight wrote: > I love the program Lost, but if I see the ad for 118118 one more > time, I will kill something. --Steve -- http://SteveGarfield.com http://Rocketboom.com "You are worth like 50 million danishes." - Amy Carpenter Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Not a problem David, but if the ads are your choice whether to watch them, then they won't pay as much, as they are not guaranteed as large an audience to target. As most vlogging is a hobby, I don't think it will apply for a long time, but anyone who wants to go commercial will have to find the money somewhere. And ads are better than sponsored by. E.g., I love the program Lost, but if I see the ad for 118118 one more time, I will kill something. It's a relief to watch Housewives, that is sponsored by shampoo. And if I don't want to see ads, yes, I avoid the places where they have them, but that reduces my choice of what is available to me to watch, on TV or on the internet. But as you say, it is your right to choose what to watch. Rachel (Alternative Kitten)On 30 Jan 2006, at 15:47, David Howell wrote: Over the top? I dont think so. There doesnt have to be ads in the actual videos. Find an alternative to having "Eat Rice Crispies every morning" played before I am "allowed" to see the video. Dont hold me hostage while I wait to see the content. If you want advertising, make it my choice whether or not I will click the ad or view the ad. As I stated, if "vloggers" start playing ads in their videos, "I" wont watch those vloggers videos. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rachel Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bit over the top, David. There have to be ads on TV to pay for > making the programs, it's not cheap. What we vloggers do is cheap, > and it's a hobby, so we spend the money without any desire to recoup > it. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Point Andreas. But BBC and HBO are paid for by subscription (or in the case of the BBC, by TV Licence). There is no subscription cost for most vlogs that I know of, so that does not pay for it either. And the only ones the tax payer would pay for are Government sponsored/produced items. Everything costs money at the bottom, and everything has to be paid for. Who pays for the Danish public service provider - is that TV Licence, or tax payers? Ads are what is used for channels that are free or cheap to most, but are paid for via commercial sponsorship, ie ads. Rachel (Alternative Kitten)On 30 Jan 2006, at 15:07, Andreas Haugstrup wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:47:50 +0100, Rachel Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bit over the top, David. There have to be ads on TV to pay for > making the programs, it's not cheap. There don't have to be ads on tv, no more than there have to be ads anywhere else. Is the BBC running ads now? I know the Danish public service provider is not and have never run ads on either of their two channels. HBO is the US is not running ads either. Someone has to pay for the programming, but it doesn't have to be financed via ads. - Andreas -- http://www.solitude.dk/ > Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:47:50 +0100, Rachel Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bit over the top, David. There have to be ads on TV to pay for > making the programs, it's not cheap. There don't have to be ads on tv, no more than there have to be ads anywhere else. Is the BBC running ads now? I know the Danish public service provider is not and have never run ads on either of their two channels. HBO is the US is not running ads either. Someone has to pay for the programming, but it doesn't have to be financed via ads. - Andreas -- http://www.solitude.dk/ > Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Kunga, Enric, Markus,I realise that this is probably settled by now, but calm down. People have different opinions, they express them. No need for a punch up. Remember, cat fights are for girls, stop betraying your hormones. Rachel (Alternative Kitten)On 30 Jan 2006, at 04:20, Markus Sandy wrote: people often disagree in this group taylor, but you generally characterize any remark from me as an "attack". please chill out. this passive/aggressive bs is old hat by now and yes, precision in statements often helps Kunga wrote: >Of course I meant: > >IF THEY WANT TO. > >Pardon my lack of precision. I doubt anyone here thinks I think >everyone wants ads in their videos. Of course not everyone wants ads. >I didn't think I needed to write that to express my enthusiasm for >Andrew's innovative approach to the problem. > >Thank you for CRUSHING MY ENTHUSIASM as quickly as possible. I will >retreat AGAIN as you wish. You have successfully destroyed my >enthusiasm for participating here once again. You make me feel >totally unwanted, Congratulations on your ability to make a WEAK MAN >feel INFERIOR to your perfection. > >Your rapid response to negatively attack anything I write positively >is outstanding. > >I am obviously not worthy of posting anything here. > > > -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
Bit over the top, David. There have to be ads on TV to pay for making the programs, it's not cheap. What we vloggers do is cheap, and it's a hobby, so we spend the money without any desire to recoup it. Some media sites probably have the same problem as TV - it's not a hobby, it's not done in spare time, so they need to recoup some money to pay for what they are doing. I know not everyone agrees with the capitalist system, but it is the one that has worked best for the last 20,000 odd years, and I have not seen anyone come up with a better one yet. Free lunches are a great thing, but I've not yet found one.Rachel (Alternative Kitten)On 29 Jan 2006, at 15:59, David Howell wrote: Not that I am an A-List vlogger by any means, I wouldnt do this no matter what the reason was. I do have Google Ads on my site and that's plenty. To insert ads into the videos? In my opinion, that's just obnoxious to the viewer. As we are inundated with advertising on TV all the time, I would rather that online videos be clear of this crap. I hate the fact that big media sites force you to watch commercials before their content. I refuse to watch their videos for that reason alone. If vloggers started doing this, I wouldn't watch their videos either. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not *everyone* wants ads Kunga. > > Were you not listening yesterday in the video conference when several > people gave you flack about your gross generalizations? > > As with many things, on-line auctions may work well for some and not for > others. > > Here's a question for all: will you try this and, if so, will you tend > to set reserves or take whatever you can get? > > > > > Kunga wrote: > > >I think this may be a way for everyone to garner ads. I love it. > >Brilliant path! > > > > > > > -- > > My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us > > http://apperceptions.org > http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com > http://node101.org > http://spinflow.org > http://wearethemedia.com > http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com > > aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype: msandy > spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
I've not really been keeping up, I try to keep out of the Rocketboom social minefield, but I read the blogarithms link you gave. So if Amanda and Andrew will be making the ads and vetoing, I don't know how much response they will get, but then, 130,000 downloads per day, as global viewing figures and TV ratings go, is very little, but not bad for an internet site. From a business point of view, it will be interesting to see what happens. Rachel (Alternative Kitten)On 29 Jan 2006, at 13:54, Nerissa ((TheVideoQueen)) wrote: > The story you link to is the gist, but not quite right on some of the > detail but here is a better example:> > http://pdberger.com/blogarithms-rocketboom/> > http://www.whatsnextblog.com/archives/2006/01/ > rocketboom_to_auction_ad_slot.asp>> This all happened a bit early, I'll send a link tomrrow night to the > actual e-bay ad itself.>> Gulp.> > > On Jan 28, 2006, at 6:19 PM, James A. Donnelly wrote:> > > > Interesting concept> > http://www.adrants.com/2006/01/rocketboom-to-sell-ad-time-via-ebay- > > retai.php> >> > jad> > madpod.com> > petsonboard.com> > dummycast.com> >> > FANTASTIC idea Andrew I'm wishing you and Amanda great success! I will also help to spread the news for your auction. NerissaNerissa Odenhttp://TheVideoQueen.comhttp://FreeMediaGuide.comhttp://FreeVideoCoding.comhttp://FreeVideoEditing.comhttp://Nebelungs.blogspot.comMy Groups:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videobloggingbusiness/http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/videowomen/* Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
people often disagree in this group taylor, but you generally characterize any remark from me as an "attack". please chill out. this passive/aggressive bs is old hat by now and yes, precision in statements often helps Kunga wrote: >Of course I meant: > >IF THEY WANT TO. > >Pardon my lack of precision. I doubt anyone here thinks I think >everyone wants ads in their videos. Of course not everyone wants ads. >I didn't think I needed to write that to express my enthusiasm for >Andrew's innovative approach to the problem. > >Thank you for CRUSHING MY ENTHUSIASM as quickly as possible. I will >retreat AGAIN as you wish. You have successfully destroyed my >enthusiasm for participating here once again. You make me feel >totally unwanted, Congratulations on your ability to make a WEAK MAN >feel INFERIOR to your perfection. > >Your rapid response to negatively attack anything I write positively >is outstanding. > >I am obviously not worthy of posting anything here. > > > -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
Kunga, Try not to take it personally. I think your comments and enthusiasm are welcome here. Its a big group and people definitely battle out ideas sometimes. Don't let any one person get you down. -josh On 1/29/06, Kunga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course I meant: > > IF THEY WANT TO. > > Pardon my lack of precision. I doubt anyone here thinks I think > everyone wants ads in their videos. Of course not everyone wants ads. > I didn't think I needed to write that to express my enthusiasm for > Andrew's innovative approach to the problem. > > Thank you for CRUSHING MY ENTHUSIASM as quickly as possible. I will > retreat AGAIN as you wish. You have successfully destroyed my > enthusiasm for participating here once again. You make me feel > totally unwanted, Congratulations on your ability to make a WEAK MAN > feel INFERIOR to your perfection. > > Your rapid response to negatively attack anything I write positively > is outstanding. > > I am obviously not worthy of posting anything here. > > -- > Taylor Barcroft http://www.blogger.com/profile/11159903 > New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster > Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley > URL http://FutureMedia.org > RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia > iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 > > On Jan 29, 2006, at 6:36 AM, Kunga wrote: > > > I think this may be a way for everyone to garner ads. I love it. > > Brilliant path! > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
Of course I meant: IF THEY WANT TO. Pardon my lack of precision. I doubt anyone here thinks I think everyone wants ads in their videos. Of course not everyone wants ads. I didn't think I needed to write that to express my enthusiasm for Andrew's innovative approach to the problem. Thank you for CRUSHING MY ENTHUSIASM as quickly as possible. I will retreat AGAIN as you wish. You have successfully destroyed my enthusiasm for participating here once again. You make me feel totally unwanted, Congratulations on your ability to make a WEAK MAN feel INFERIOR to your perfection. Your rapid response to negatively attack anything I write positively is outstanding. I am obviously not worthy of posting anything here. -- Taylor Barcroft http://www.blogger.com/profile/11159903 New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 On Jan 29, 2006, at 6:36 AM, Kunga wrote: > I think this may be a way for everyone to garner ads. I love it. > Brilliant path! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
unless "everyone" is an inference to those who have a relevant interest in advertisingwhich is where maybe "assuming" can have benefit.ok enough of this hyperbole.cheers-Sull On 1/29/06, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: too bad enric. if someone claims something about *all* of us, I will free to disagree if I wish. Enric wrote: I like you Markus and applaud the things you do to make videobloggingavailable to people. However I find your shaming of Taylor disturbing. -- Enric--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: it's still a gross generalization - opinion or notand i think you have no clue what most people understand (nor do I for that matter)thanks for speaking for him though :)Enric wrote: Taylor is expressing his point of view, I think most people understandthat. -- Enric--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not *everyone* wants ads Kunga.Were you not listening yesterday in the video conference when several people gave you flack about your gross generalizations?As with many things, on-line auctions may work well for some and not for others.Here's a question for all: will you try this and, if so, will you tend to set reserves or take whatever you can get?Kunga wrote: I think this may be a way for everyone to garner ads. I love it. Brilliant path! -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -"The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
too bad enric. if someone claims something about *all* of us, I will free to disagree if I wish. Enric wrote: I like you Markus and applaud the things you do to make videoblogging available to people. However I find your shaming of Taylor disturbing. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: it's still a gross generalization - opinion or not and i think you have no clue what most people understand (nor do I for that matter) thanks for speaking for him though :) Enric wrote: Taylor is expressing his point of view, I think most people understand that. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not *everyone* wants ads Kunga. Were you not listening yesterday in the video conference when several people gave you flack about your gross generalizations? As with many things, on-line auctions may work well for some and not for others. Here's a question for all: will you try this and, if so, will you tend to set reserves or take whatever you can get? Kunga wrote: I think this may be a way for everyone to garner ads. I love it. Brilliant path! -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
it's still a gross generalization - opinion or not and i think you have no clue what most people understand (nor do I for that matter) thanks for speaking for him though :) Enric wrote: Taylor is expressing his point of view, I think most people understand that. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not *everyone* wants ads Kunga. Were you not listening yesterday in the video conference when several people gave you flack about your gross generalizations? As with many things, on-line auctions may work well for some and not for others. Here's a question for all: will you try this and, if so, will you tend to set reserves or take whatever you can get? Kunga wrote: I think this may be a way for everyone to garner ads. I love it. Brilliant path! -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
yep.popular tactic on some radio talk shows where the ads are almost entirely transparent from the regular talk show bit.it works well.for video it will be interesting. rboom can command such terms. often, thats not the case. but i am happy to see andrew and amanda take control of their show and make sure its quality and its personality stay in tact despite playing ads. andrew, was curious i assume most to all watch rboom episodes all the way through right? most advertisers prefer to 'air' commercials before vids, not after... but if you are able to show that most eyes and ears are still there at the end, i suppose it doesnt matter too much. On 1/29/06, Ted Tagami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andrew and Amanda have thought alot about the auction's short and long term issues, and I believe they are seeking to strike an ideal balance between revenue with transparency and sponsorships. On 1/29/06, David Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Not that I am an A-List vlogger by any means, I wouldnt do this no matter what the reason was. I do have Google Ads on my site and that's plenty. To insert ads into the videos? In my opinion, that's just obnoxious to the viewer. As we are inundated with advertising on TV all the time, I would rather that online videos be clear of this crap. I hate the fact that big media sites force you to watch commercials before their content. I refuse to watch their videos for that reason alone. If vloggers started doing this, I wouldn't watch their videos either. David http://www.taoofdavid.com-- Ted TagamiPrincipal, Universus Networks U N I V E R S U S . N E T YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -"The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
I wasn't there. -- Taylor Barcroft http://www.blogger.com/profile/11159903 New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 On Jan 29, 2006, at 7:38 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: > Were you not listening yesterday in the video conference when several > people gave you flack about your gross generalizations? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
Personally, it's not my drive since my videoblogs are for me to muck with video and have a record of my life. ...but I am glad they did it. It will be interesting to see how it all pans out. On 1/29/06, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not *everyone* wants ads Kunga. > > Were you not listening yesterday in the video conference when several > people gave you flack about your gross generalizations? > > As with many things, on-line auctions may work well for some and not for > others. > > Here's a question for all: will you try this and, if so, will you tend > to set reserves or take whatever you can get? > > > > > Kunga wrote: > > >I think this may be a way for everyone to garner ads. I love it. > >Brilliant path! > > > > > > > -- > > My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us > > http://apperceptions.org > http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com > http://node101.org > http://spinflow.org > http://wearethemedia.com > http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com > > aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype: msandy > spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > -- ~Devlon Blog: http://devlond.blogspot.com Vlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
Andrew and Amanda have thought alot about the auction's short and long term issues, and I believe they are seeking to strike an ideal balance between revenue with transparency and sponsorships. On 1/29/06, David Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not that I am an A-List vlogger by any means, I wouldnt do this no matter what the reason was. I do have Google Ads on my site and that's plenty. To insert ads into the videos? In my opinion, that's just obnoxious to the viewer. As we are inundated with advertising on TV all the time, I would rather that online videos be clear of this crap. I hate the fact that big media sites force you to watch commercials before their content. I refuse to watch their videos for that reason alone. If vloggers started doing this, I wouldn't watch their videos either. David http://www.taoofdavid.com-- Ted TagamiPrincipal, Universus Networks U N I V E R S U S . N E T YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
Not *everyone* wants ads Kunga. Were you not listening yesterday in the video conference when several people gave you flack about your gross generalizations? As with many things, on-line auctions may work well for some and not for others. Here's a question for all: will you try this and, if so, will you tend to set reserves or take whatever you can get? Kunga wrote: >I think this may be a way for everyone to garner ads. I love it. >Brilliant path! > > -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom to Auction Advertising Time on Ebay?
I think this may be a way for everyone to garner ads. I love it. Brilliant path! -- Taylor Barcroft http://www.blogger.com/profile/11159903 New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 On Jan 29, 2006, at 5:54 AM, Nerissa ((TheVideoQueen)) wrote: > > The story you link to is the gist, but not quite right on some of > the > > detail but here is a better example: > > > > http://pdberger.com/blogarithms-rocketboom/ > > > > http://www.whatsnextblog.com/archives/2006/01/ > > rocketboom_to_auction_ad_slot.asp > > > > This all happened a bit early, I'll send a link tomrrow night to the > > actual e-bay ad itself. > > > > Gulp. > > > > > On Jan 28, 2006, at 6:19 PM, James A. Donnelly wrote: > > > > > > Interesting concept > > > http://www.adrants.com/2006/01/rocketboom-to-sell-ad-time-via- > ebay- > > > retai.php > > > > > > jad > > > madpod.com > > > petsonboard.com > > > dummycast.com > > > > > > > FANTASTIC idea Andrew I'm wishing you and Amanda great success! > I will also help to spread the news for your auction. > > Nerissa Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
