Thank you Matthew,
Yes, I'd seen Robert Barto's exploration of the technique and also the
video close up he posted in 2016 using dedillo. In fact, it was this
single course finger 'strummimng' sort of technique which I'd also,
with mixed success, been trying to use and which led me
For the record - LSA Quarterly Vol. 50, no. 3, Fall 2015 is devoted to
the vihuela and includes articles by Barto and Philip Rukavina on
dedillo.
Monica
Original Message
From: hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: 10/07/2017 7:25
To: "Lex Eisenhardt"<lex.eisenha
You might want to check Robert Barto's articles in the LSA Quarterly and his
recent workshops on dedillo.
Best,
Matthew
> On Jul 9, 2017, at 17:04, Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Reading the English language summary (in Lute News
;vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Subj: [VIHUELA] Re: Vihuela technique: dos dedos and dedillo
Thanks Lex,
This (and other clips sent to me) certainly show the index being
used
on its own. But to be fair, I didn't quite say it wasn't possible -
merely that I found it tricky myself! And that the
Martyn;
If you check closely, you will notice that Mr. Maier does use the thumb
to steady the index finger in the Mudarra Fantasia No.1 when playing
dedillo.
Gary
On 2017-07-10 00:25, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
> Thanks Lex,
> This (and other clips sent to me) certainly show the index bein
technique: dos dedos and dedillo
Reading the English language summary (in Lute News 117) of the early
journals of the Sociedad de la Vihuela 'Hispanica Lyra', I was
again struck by the different right hand plucking techniques evidently
reasonably common and widespread in sixteenth century
the use of two right hand digits (either the first and
second fingers or the thumb and first finger) ie dos dedos; or the use
of just the index finger to strike the string ie dedillo.
Over the years I have, unsucessfully, tried to use a sort of free
stroke dedillo (similar the index finger
fundamentals outlined in
the sources and already discussed by others, and to clarify what was for me a
newly adopted instrument and playing style. The examples are laid out roughly
in order of difficulty, with the intention of serving as a starting point for
players. A good way of learning dedillo
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thank you - my thumb over technigue doesn't exist
and
it's a relief to know that sig. fuenilana
preferred
the (to me, infinitly more natural
At 05:25 AM 10/30/2007, bill kilpatrick wrote:
not sure what the difference is between tremolo and
dedillo...
Depending, both techniques can coincide. Dedillo is striking the string
with both the up and downstroke, or both the contraction and extension, of
a finger. Tremolo is the rapid
4:03 pm
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To: 'Vihuela Net' vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu
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archiving (is that a word?) problems from your address
might be spam related. it happened to me once and i
felt just awful about it (my italian server was to
blame ...)
in ralph maier's
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archiving (is that a word?) problems from your address
might be spam related. it happened to me once and i
felt just awful about it (my italian server was to
blame ...)
in ralph maier's excellent article there's a quote in
translation from miguel de
likely possibility, could there? And
hats off to Ralph Maier for actually mastering it.
Speaking only as an amateur: the whole business is trying to get the flesh
of the fingers to sound the strings. But the downward stroke of dedillo
seems like a crude bash with the nails. How do you square
there? And
hats off to Ralph Maier for actually mastering it.
Speaking only as an amateur: the whole business is
trying to get the
flesh of the fingers to sound the strings. But the
downward stroke of
dedillo seems like a crude bash with the nails. How
do you square the
considered upward pluck
John,
Is the Portuguese guitar you mention the 4-course like the Renaissance guitar
and the uke?
Jocelyn
From: John Griffiths [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 10/30/2007 8:41 PM
To: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: dedillo
My two
My two-penneth worth is that we have two main ways of learning about
dedillo from contemporary practice. One is from the variety of
techniques used in vihuela/guitarra-derivatives in Latin America,
such as the charango and various others. The second is the Portuguese
guitar that has
Piccinini says (Cap. XXXI):
Le Tirate segno dello Strascino, si faranno come ho gia deto di sopra
nel Cap. XXV. e li gruppi similmente strascinati riescano assai bene, ma
sono però inscipidi, e perciò a farli con un deto si come pur si è detto
al Cap. IX. riescano ancor in Eccelenza nel
To the plectrum/dedillo list could be added Mersenne's four course
mandore, where he mentions the possibility of a plectrum tied to a finger.
(On a plectrum instrument this would also have the effect of freeing the
thumb enabling the playing of chords with holes on this mandore and four
course
Subject: dedillo
To the plectrum/dedillo list could be added Mersenne's four course
mandore, where he mentions the possibility of a plectrum tied to a finger.
(On a plectrum instrument this would also have the effect of freeing the
thumb enabling the playing of chords with holes on this mandore
it's difficult for me to see the details properly but
following david hockney's secret knowledge expose on
the painterly use of prisms and mirrors,
Hockney's expose has already been debunked, many times over.
RT
http://polyhymnion.org
bill kilpatrick wrote:
is dedillo the same as redobles - fast, single line
passage(s)?
No. Dedillo is a way of playing passages of that sort using only the index
finger, presumably in the manner of a plectrum. It's occasionally marked in
vihuela sources.
HP
To get on or off this list see
it on
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attiorbato as well.
Best wishes,
Martin
James A Stimson wrote:
Dear Ed, Rob and All:
Isn't all Indian sitar playing dedillo? That is, I
believe the strings are
plucked exclusively with the right-hand index
finger, onto which is fitted
a pointed wire loop, which
Martyn sent me this:
To get back to the Vihuela, - do you know anyone who plays dedillo (I think
that's the term)? ie running passages played with index alone: I've tried,
and failed - dismally.
Thanks and rgds
Martyn
I sympathise with Martyn. Dedillo can sound awful, and I have to say I
Hi-
my theory is that dedillo was used first because it is what you do when you
are used to playing with a plectrum and decide to try fingers. That way, the
thumb is held against the index finger as if you are holding a pick, but
then you use the index finger tip instead of the pick that could
Interesting topic!
So you want to know how to play dedillo? :)
If you live in the U.S., just go to a good Mexican restaurant with a good
Mariachi band.
I was in a local restaurant a few months ago and the duo who was serenading the
patrons had stopped at our table. I observed that the one
never heard of it before - thanks a lot.
just tried it - as described by dante - on the
charango and it worked very nicely in conjunction with
rasgueo.
sort of an acoustic reverb.
- bill
--- Dante Rosati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi-
my theory is that dedillo was used first because
This is an interesting point. I have never heard anyone perform the
dedillo successfully, with the exception of Ronn McFarlane, who (if my
memory serves me correctly) used it on some Milan pieces in an older solo
CD of his.
Other than that, I know of nobody who now uses it.
ed
At 09:49 PM
Dear Ed, Rob and All:
Isn't all Indian sitar playing dedillo? That is, I believe the strings are
plucked exclusively with the right-hand index finger, onto which is fitted
a pointed wire loop, which serves as a plectrum. (Shades of Francesco's
silver thimbles!) There must be somebody out
is dedillo the same as redobles - fast, single line
passage(s)?
one could work up a good sized blister on the end of
your finger doing this - real quick. a pick is so
much better.
- bill
--- James A Stimson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Ed, Rob and All:
Isn't all Indian sitar
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