Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-18 Thread John Beckett
I have just finished renaming the 578 pages we agreed, and fixing the associated VimTip redirect pages. There was only one problem: I didn't notice that tip 1440 was renamed yesterday, so when my script went to rename it, the script renamed the redirect from yesterday. For the record, here is the

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-17 Thread John Beckett
Angela wrote: > Tom Purl can make other users into admins using > http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Makesysop Hey Tom - are you reading this? Should we move the 578 tips and keep the (probably useless) redirection pages, or should we delete them? > The easiest way is to have a "requests for admi

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-17 Thread beesley
On 10/16/07, John Beckett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... > Problem is, I think the bot would need sysop privilege to delete > the pages. I don't understand who assigns sysop privilege, or > why. Tom Purl can make other users into admins using http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Makesysop If he's

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-16 Thread John Beckett
Benjamin Fritz wrote: > Seems to me that a good solution would be to keep a redirect > around for a limited amount of time before cleaning it up. > That way people who have the tip bookmarked or whatever have > at least some chance to update. Maybe, but there will be a day on which the link works

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-16 Thread Benjamin Fritz
Seems to me that a good solution would be to keep a redirect around for a limited amount of time before cleaning it up. That way people who have the tip bookmarked or whatever have at least some chance to update. On 10/16/07, John Beckett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Santhalus wrote: > >> What

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-16 Thread John Beckett
Santhalus wrote: >> What do we want? Rename and keep the old pages? >> Or, rename and delete the old pages? How? > > What about links to old pages by their old title (not > VimTipNumber but the one we change)? There might exist some > places on the wiki and/or on external sites/mailing list > which

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-15 Thread Santhalus
John Beckett wrote: > Sebastian Menge wrote [in another thread]: >> As soon as John is done with the "Titles Project" > > I have a big question before moving the 578 tip pages. > > Using normal procedures, the result of renaming a tip is: > - A new page with new title and old contents is created.

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-14 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote [in another thread]: > As soon as John is done with the "Titles Project" Reminder - the proposed title changes are at the link in: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/User:JohnBeckett/Titles_project My script is ready for testing and I could start the renaming in a few days. We don't

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-14 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote [in another thread]: > As soon as John is done with the "Titles Project" I have a big question before moving the 578 tip pages. Using normal procedures, the result of renaming a tip is: - A new page with new title and old contents is created. - The old page becomes a redirec

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-09 Thread John Beckett
Santhalus wrote: > I was just pondering on the nuances between "create" and > "make" and "colorscheme" and "color scheme". Good point - I see the Vim docs consistently say "color scheme". I think you'll like 178 below. I'm also inserting a space in 'colorscheme' in 358 which is the only other tit

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-09 Thread Santhalus
John Beckett wrote: > Santhalus wrote: >> Here is a couple more for tips between 1-300. > > We need more thought on the following. Please consider and post again. > >> 106 Mail signature rotation: Supersimple one-line solution >> 106 Mail signature rotation >> --> 106 Make vim rotate signatures i

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-08 Thread John Beckett
Santhalus wrote: > Here is a couple more for tips between 1-300. Thanks Santhalus. Let's deal with the easy ones: OK 28 Insert line numbers OK 35 Translate between single line and block comments OK 81 Substitute characters and lines easily OK 97 Insert current date or time OK 104 Capture SQL

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-08 Thread John Beckett
Santhalus wrote: > Now when I understand the tip, I think the original title > 'Using /pattern/ search in a script' got the point pretty > well. Maybe we could tweak it only a little to get around > the slashes: > --> 316 Using pattern search in a script > --> 316 Using regex search in a script >

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-08 Thread John Beckett
Santhalus wrote: > Here is a couple more for tips between 1-300. We need more thought on the following. Please consider and post again. > 106 Mail signature rotation: Supersimple one-line solution > 106 Mail signature rotation > --> 106 Make vim rotate signatures in your mails > # ??? > # to make

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-08 Thread Santhalus
John Beckett wrote: >>> 316 Using /pattern/ search in a script > ... >> # The original title DOES say about searching in a script but >> # it is irrelevant - you can search anything using this tip. >> # IMO the point of this tip is to run a set of vim commands >> # on text found by a search regexp

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-08 Thread Santhalus
John Beckett wrote: > I have uploaded the amended list of title changes to > > http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/User:JohnBeckett/Titles_to_be_changed > > Please continue reviewing the lists and post any further suggestions. Here is a couple more for tips between 1-300. I marked with "???" the cases wh

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-04 Thread John Beckett
I have uploaded the amended list of title changes to http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/User:JohnBeckett/Titles_to_be_changed Please continue reviewing the lists and post any further suggestions. You can use the History to see changes, however the following lists all the new titles. 3 Compile Java files

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-04 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:03:26 +1000 schrieb John Beckett: >> 312 im confused about usage of "and" and "or" > # I was perhaps trying too hard to avoid punctuation. # Suggest > something, maybe: > 312 Copy, cut and paste I think, I would allow commas in titles in case of enumerations. Sebastian __

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-04 Thread John Beckett
hermitte wrote: >> 221 Indenting "throws" in java >> 221 Indenting java throw statements >> OK 221 Indent Java throw statements > > "Indent" or "Indenting" ? Hmmm. Good question. Which of the following?? 221 Indent Java throw statements 221 Indenting Java throw statements The first seems to be a

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-04 Thread John Beckett
Santhalus wrote: > I let myself drop in some suggestions here. Good. I'll keep the alternatives and suggest choices a little later. A couple of comments: >> 152 Spelling checkers for several languages >> # (Is tip 152 relevant now?? Maybe delete?) > --> 152 Check spelling for different languages

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-04 Thread John Beckett
Santhalus wrote: > I'm not sure about the "-ing" form. Do you want to change all > titles to "-ing" or have rules when to keep each? I don't have a firm view. My thinking is: - Omit noise words where reasonable. - Put point of tip close to beginning of title. Consider my suggestion (which needs

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-04 Thread hermitte
Hello, John Beckett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Santhalus wrote: > 83 How to indent (useful for source code) > 83 How to indent a program > NO 83 Indent your code automatically > # I prefer Sebastian's suggestion (below) - ok? > OK 83 Indenting source code > > 221 Indenting "throws" in java > 2

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-04 Thread Santhalus
John Beckett wrote: I let myself drop in some suggestions here. > Sebastian Menge wrote: >> Thanks for taking that burden, John. Here are my comments for > >> 152, 128, 26: don't make-it-one-word. Bad for search engine. > # Good point. I used '-' for its benign behaviour in a URL. > # We can us

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-04 Thread Santhalus
John Beckett wrote: > Santhalus wrote: >> Some quick suggestions below. > > Thanks for your suggestions. Please review the following. > > Also, think about the "Integrate" titles. Following are some > examples, but there are more in the full list. Perhaps the first > couple of the following shoul

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-03 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: > Thanks for taking that burden, John. Here are my comments for > tips 1 to 400. (ill continue later on) Thanks for your comments. Here are some replies (#). > 35: its not c or c++ specific: its "single line" vs "block comment". > Same holds for many other languages. # Let

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-03 Thread John Beckett
Santhalus wrote: > Some quick suggestions below. Thanks for your suggestions. Please review the following. Also, think about the "Integrate" titles. Following are some examples, but there are more in the full list. Perhaps the first couple of the following should omit "gvim"? 96 Integrate gvim w

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-03 Thread John Beckett
Santhalus wrote: > Some quick suggestions below. I'm replying to your suggestions separately. Here is an explanation for what my replies mean. We can't let this get too cumbersome, so I want to adopt a convention for discussing the titles. Please be fairly brutal about pruning text from any messa

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-03 Thread Santhalus
John Beckett wrote: [...] > > Please let me know what you think of the two lists. If you have any > suggested changes, please post them here. If we get some consensus, I will > incorporate them into the lists. Some quick suggestions below. I included more than one when in doubt. 3 Use vim to qui

Re: [Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-03 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:04:40 +1000 schrieb John Beckett: > Please let me know what you think of the two lists. If you have any > suggested changes, please post them here. If we get some consensus, I > will incorporate them into the lists. Thanks for taking that burden, John. Here are my comments f

[Vim-l] Titles project

2007-10-03 Thread John Beckett
After an enormous amount of pain, I have devised a list of 578 tips to be renamed. Another list shows 653 tips with titles that do not need to be changed. See this page for an overview with links to the two lists. http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/User:JohnBeckett/Titles_project I'm not entirely happy w