Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-16 Thread peter
@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:13 AM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? In addition, do you really think iOS is perfect if you are not using VO? There are bugs in it and the new Mac OS release for sighted people as well, some very long-standing. Just because

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-16 Thread Pablo Morales
my iPhone unlocked, and without higher prices per month. , - Original Message - From: peter peter.durieux1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:52 AM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Hi, this is a misstake that a lot of guys

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-16 Thread peter
Message - From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? If apple charge the same money than other business, I can agree what you say. But apple is not the cheaper

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-16 Thread peter
: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:52 AM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Hi, this is a misstake that a lot of guys make. The carrier situation where you buy a phone with a contract and so paying less for your iphone is true. Here in Belgium for example you'll pay 700 euro's

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-16 Thread Christopher Chaltain
:27 AM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? If apple charge the same money than other business, I can agree what you say. But apple is not the cheaper or the standard price for their products. Of course, I feel that I have right of say that I am in disagreement when I pay a thousand

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-15 Thread simon wong
I don't see why when you guys report a bug or flaw in their system of the phone while you're doing it to the list why don't you CC a copy to the Apple people Sent from my iPhone On 2013-11-11, at 1:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think this is what you're saying,

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-15 Thread Jerry MAder
Weitzel Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Pablo, I just don't understand some of the complaints. I don't see a difference in the location of the End button when I'm on a phone call, it's still right there at the bottom

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-15 Thread David L Minton, Jr
@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? If apple charge the same money than other business, I can agree what you say. But apple is not the cheaper or the standard price for their products. Of course, I feel that I have right of say

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-15 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Why are you assuming people aren't reporting these issues to Apple accessibility? If I'm having a issue on my iPhone, which I think may be a bug, I'll often ask about it here on the list. I want to know if it's user error first or maybe something unique to my iPhone. Obviously, if I'm doing

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-12 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, I’m not sure about this. In IOS 7, it is certainly harder to hang up a call with a 2 finger double tap on the first try. It seems to have gotten better in the minor releases but, enough people who have been using IOS for years have experienced the same behavior to not just write it off

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-12 Thread Rose Combs
I have a 4S and no wifi problems. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Regina Alvarado Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? 'I will jump

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-12 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:48 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Hi, I'm not sure about this. In IOS 7

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-12 Thread Kellie and my lab pack
Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Hi, I’m not sure about this. In IOS 7, it is certainly harder to hang up a call with a 2 finger double tap on the first try. It seems to have gotten better in the minor releases but, enough people who have been using IOS for years have experienced

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-12 Thread Joanne Chua
I never know 2 finger double tap will start dictation. i always thought, and do so, that two finger double tap will play music, unless you are on specific apps like facebook, that will give you different actions. Joanne Chua The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. Leaders For Tomorrow 2013

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-12 Thread Ron Pelletier
AM To: viphone Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Hi, I'm not sure about this. In IOS 7, it is certainly harder to hang up a call with a 2 finger double tap on the first try. It seems to have gotten better in the minor releases but, enough people who have been using IOS for years

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-12 Thread Larry Lumpkin
This thread has been hijacked. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Pelletier Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 5:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Hi Kelly, I had

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-12 Thread Christopher Chaltain
This feature was introduced in IOS 7. If your currently editing an edit field then a two finger double tap should start dictation. On 11/12/2013 05:46 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: I never know 2 finger double tap will start dictation. i always thought, and do so, that two finger double tap will

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-12 Thread David Chittenden
This is a new feature started with iOS 7. If you are in and edit field, and the edit field is active, you can do a two finger double tap to start dictation. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 13 Nov 2013, at 12:46, Joanne

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-12 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 5:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? This is a new feature started with iOS 7. If you are in and edit field, and the edit field is active, you can do a two finger double tap to start dictation. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread BBS
John and Sieghard, I agree with you guys completely. Like it says in my Skype mood message, some blind people are so spoiled. And it’s true, because look at this thread. We should be lucky that Apple is giving us a pretty good screen reader. I’m just tired of reading threads about people

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread RobH.
little bit, without a glitch, your fallback position when the leading edge becomes the bleeding edge. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:13 PM Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread RobH.
@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:57 AM Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? And one can always just press the home key a moment longer and ask SIRI What is the time -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread RobH.
@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 3:14 AM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Well, apple accessibility has a different opinion than you. They recognize that it should read the time. The people normally look the time more often than when they want to know the track position. Sorry

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread RobH.
for the new version dust to settle. - Original Message - From: Wayne gmail ewaynebrum...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:22 AM Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Or one can wait a while and IOS 7 will get better. IOS 6 started

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread Joanne Chua
version dust to settle. - Original Message - From: Wayne gmail ewaynebrum...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:22 AM Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Or one can wait a while and IOS 7 will get better. IOS 6 started

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread Aser Tolentino
. - Original Message - From: Wayne gmail ewaynebrum...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:22 AM Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Or one can wait a while and IOS 7 will get better. IOS 6 started with bugs and ended up butterflies

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread Ricardo Walker
- From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 3:14 AM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Well, apple accessibility has a different opinion than you. They recognize that it should read the time. The people

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
engineers are thinking of when they change these things, apparently for the sake of it. - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 3:14 AM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Well

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread Carol Pearson
Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Hello, Here is my summary of this entire thread: The original poster complained about 3 items and pointed out a fourth: 1. Hanging up phone calls is unreliable 2. He can't tap on a phone number in a text message or email to dial

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread David Chittenden
with this issue. It is for apple, more than for us. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:13 PM Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Hello, Here is my summary of this entire thread

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread Carol Pearson
Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:13 PM Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Hello, Here is my summary of this entire thread: The original poster complained about 3 items and pointed out

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread AppleGourmet
Hey Guys! I was having a rough day. I had got a number of text messages with phone numbers that I had to call but could not courtesy Apple. Then I called my girl friend and thought had ended the call. She heard what I was talking with my buddy. So that was a mess. Then I made a long distance

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread Alex Hall
Actually, it does help to say you are not experiencing a given problem. Not only does this tell people what to expect if, say, they haven’t upgraded to some new version, but it lets you know that maybe the problem is not in the phone. For instance, when I first got my iPhone, Voiceover would

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread David Chittenden
In addition, this list is for us to help each other resolve problems we are having. So, writing to the list is implying you are having a problem with the technology, not implying you are merely venting your frustrations. As to your iPhone not disconnecting, twice, this tells me you want to

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't think this is what you're saying, but I think we need to be careful here. Accessibility isn't something that were given as a charity and something we should feel grateful for when someone provides it. Accessibility is a right that we should be demanding. Of course, we should be

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread Joanne Chua
Sure, if there is accessibility bug we, as any of a responsible consumer, regardless either we are blind or not blind, should report. However, when it is clearly the user fault, which, frankly speaking, you have 75% of the chance with the case, and each of these user errors and faults got to

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hello, May I suggest that you send all these comments to: accessibil...@apple.com I know venting is a great relief for your frustration but, venting in the right place will help a lot more. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread Ron Pelletier
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Nope. I don't agree it. Apple sales their toys at a very high price. As I said before, and iPhone today is more money

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-11 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, the initial complaints from the venting message in this thread were quite obviously user error, not errors in the OS. Two-finger double tap, with the fingers slightly spread always answers and ends phone calls. If it does not end the phone call, this is always and exclusively because the

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Alex Hall
Ending calls works fine for me. Also, if you get VO to say anything, you can tell right away if a call is active or not. When you are on a call, VO has the same sound quality as the call, which is very different from how it sounds normally. Also, what problems do you have entering data on a

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread May and Noah
I haven’t had any of these problems. In fact some things that annoyed me work better with this version. Other things like the calendar had to get use to the layout. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:40 AM, sen...@gmail.com wrote: This is very frustrating. Hordes

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Pablo Morales
Yes, it is that I have been saying since IOs 6 came. Looks like every time apple write a new code, with new developers, and the accessibility problems every time are worse. They are not learning of the previous IOs experiences, they are not paying attention to it, or they want to become the

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Billy Maynard
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:50 AM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Yes, it is that I have been saying since IOs 6 came. Looks like every time apple write a new code, with new developers, and the accessibility problems every time are worse

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, With respect, let me go through some of the things below. In regards to hanging up a call. Yes, I have notice that doing a 2 finger double tap doesn’t always hang up a call on the first try. Generally, the second try will do the trick. About phone numbers in a text, turn the rotor to

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Alex Hall
In addition, do you really think iOS is perfect if you are not using VO? There are bugs in it and the new Mac OS release for sighted people as well, some very long-standing. Just because there are bugs in accessibility does not mean that Apple doesn't care about accessibility or does not take

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Pablo Morales
Nope. I don't agree it. Apple sales their toys at a very high price. As I said before, and iPhone today is more money that the money that the most part of the people on the world makes in one year. What does that mean for me? If they are charging a very high price for their toys, they should

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Pablo Morales
, 2013 10:13 AM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? In addition, do you really think iOS is perfect if you are not using VO? There are bugs in it and the new Mac OS release for sighted people as well, some very long-standing. Just because there are bugs in accessibility does

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, But you don’t have to buy it. That’s the thing. Just because you pay a high price for something doesn’t mean it will be perfect. For example, go buy a Samsung Galaxy 4, and turn on Talkback. This phone costs about the same as an iPhone 5S. I assure you this phone has bugs too. If it

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread May and Noah
AM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? In addition, do you really think iOS is perfect if you are not using VO? There are bugs in it and the new Mac OS release for sighted people as well, some very long-standing. Just because there are bugs in accessibility does not mean

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Ricardo Walker
it. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:13 AM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? In addition, do you really think iOS is perfect if you are not using VO

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Regina Alvarado
it. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:13 AM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? In addition, do you really think iOS is perfect if you are not using VO

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Regina Alvarado
@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:13 AM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? In addition, do you really think iOS is perfect if you are not using VO? There are bugs in it and the new Mac OS release for sighted people as well, some very long-standing. Just because

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Alex Hall
with the previous experiences. - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:34 AM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Hi, But you don’t have to buy it. That’s the thing

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello, Here is my summary of this entire thread: The original poster complained about 3 items and pointed out a fourth: 1. Hanging up phone calls is unreliable 2. He can't tap on a phone number in a text message or email to dial it or save it to contacts 3. Filling out web forms is buggy. 4.

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Michael Malver
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Hello, Here is my summary of this entire thread: The original poster complained about 3 items and pointed out a fourth: 1. Hanging up phone calls is unreliable 2. He can't tap on a phone number in a text message or email

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread David Chittenden
Thank you for that summary. I just started reading this thread. The only point I can confirm is item 3. VO has a difficult time tracking in Safari when filling out complex forms. To be fair, many of the forms VO struggles with are also extremely difficult on the computer. They have quite a bit

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Pablo Morales
: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:13 PM Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Hello, Here is my summary of this entire thread: The original poster complained about 3 items and pointed out a fourth: 1. Hanging up phone calls

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread David Chittenden
Ok, go to American Printing House for the Blind, www.aph.org and check out their braille android phone. I believe the cost is around $4000. It is a phone specifically developed for the blind. It's specific functions work well for the blind. You have your wish answered. Enjoy your $4000 Android

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain
When you say: As for Talks and Nokia, the person can always go to the newest Windows Mobile phone and get the latest Mobile Speak for it. This is a specifically written app with six features in it. Nothing else can be accessed on the phone, so it will be very similar to the old Nokia with

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread DJ
not written them. lol DJ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Hello, Here is my summary

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Wayne gmail
: When will Apple take this seriously? Ok, go to American Printing House for the Blind, www.aph.org and check out their braille android phone. I believe the cost is around $4000. It is a phone specifically developed for the blind. It's specific functions work well for the blind. You have your wish

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Jesus Garcia
Chittenden Sent: November 10, 2013 18:49 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Ok, go to American Printing House for the Blind, www.aph.org and check out their braille android phone. I believe the cost is around $4000. It is a phone specifically developed

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Troy Sullivan
well then if you don't like it just sell it and move on! Simple as that. - Original Message - From: Wayne gmail ewaynebrum...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:22 PM Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Or one can wait a while

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Troy Sullivan
PM Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Remember that there is yet another way to end a call. Simply hold the phone to your ear and press on the button on the top of the phone (the one you all use to lock the phone). That one works every time! Sheesh. Thanks Sieghard

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: November 10, 2013 18:49 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Ok, go to American Printing House for the Blind, www.aph.org and check out

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Victor Gouveia
-1116 Home: victor.gouv...@rogers.com Work: viptrain...@rogers.com Limiting Disabilities with Limitless Possibilities -Original Message- From: Pablo Morales Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 6:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Sieghard

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Wayne gmail
and deleting them. With sincerest regards to all sides of all debates, Wayne -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 3:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: When will Apple take

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread David Chittenden
...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:13 PM Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Hello, Here is my summary of this entire thread: The original poster complained about 3 items and pointed out a fourth: 1. Hanging up phone calls is unreliable

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread May and Noah
Ow damn, that’s one expensive one. Whew, I’ll stick with my phone that um was wy less than that. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca On Nov 10, 2013, at 6:48 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, go to American Printing House for the Blind, www.aph.org and check out

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread David Chittenden
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:13 PM Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Hello, Here is my summary of this entire thread: The original poster complained about 3 items and pointed out a fourth: 1. Hanging up phone calls is unreliable 2. He can't

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread David Chittenden
a best effort with this issue. It is for apple, more than for us. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:13 PM Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Hello, Here is my summary

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread David Chittenden
@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:13 PM Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Hello, Here is my summary of this entire thread: The original poster complained about 3 items and pointed out a fourth: 1. Hanging up phone calls is unreliable 2. He can't tap

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread David Chittenden
: When will Apple take this seriously? Hello, Here is my summary of this entire thread: The original poster complained about 3 items and pointed out a fourth: 1. Hanging up phone calls is unreliable 2. He can't tap on a phone number in a text message or email to dial it or save

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Regina Alvarado
. not Sangsum, not Sony, not Panasonic. Apple needs to do a best effort with this issue. It is for apple, more than for us. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:13 PM Subject: RE: When will Apple

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Remember to compare apples to apples. This is a 18 cell braille note taker and not just a smart phone. A 14 cell braille display from Freedom Scientific costs $1300, so an 18 cell display would cost a bit more. Combine a 18 cell braille display with a unlocked smart phone and although the

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
-Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? When you say: As for Talks and Nokia, the person can

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 3:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Sieghard, what are you talking about? So for you is not fir that I complain when I feel that somebody is abusing when they decrees the quality of a product? For example, in IOs 5

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:13 PM Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Hello, Here is my summary of this entire thread: The original poster complained about

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
: RE: When will Apple take this seriously? Hello, Here is my summary of this entire thread: The original poster complained about 3 items and pointed out a fourth: 1. Hanging up phone calls is unreliable 2. He can't tap on a phone number in a text message or email to dial it or save

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
I think that Sieghard put it well. I am very tired of listening to people complaining about their phones and the problems they are having. If you are so unhappy with Apple or your IPhone sell it and buy an android phone. For the vast majority of the blind people using this technology it works

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Pablo Morales
Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:05 PM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Pablo, The email tracking bug is definitely annoying. Have you figured out what it actually does, or do you believe it just jumps VO all over

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Pablo Morales
dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:52 PM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Pablo, At an educated guess after observing the double announcement of screen lock, it looks like screen lock announcement is being triggered every time iOS

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Pablo Morales
10, 2013 9:13 PM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Pablo, The occasional occurrences of VO suddenly becoming silent for a little while appears to be iOS resetting its memory. In most cases, if you wait 15 to 30 seconds, VO comes back on and says Voice Over Ready. This means, VO

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Pablo Morales
to fix it. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:45 PM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Pablo, Your problem with typing using the onscreen keyboard, which a few people

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Pablo Morales
it, and they are apologized about it. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:58 PM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Pablo, VO announcing the track position rather than the time is a new feature

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Pablo Morales
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 3:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Sieghard, what are you talking about? So for you is not fir that I complain when I feel that somebody is abusing when they decrees the quality

RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Cristóbal
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:18 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? I think that Sieghard put it well. I am very tired of listening to people complaining about their phones and the problems

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread David Chittenden
, November 10, 2013 9:13 PM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Pablo, The occasional occurrences of VO suddenly becoming silent for a little while appears to be iOS resetting its memory. In most cases, if you wait 15 to 30 seconds, VO comes back on and says Voice Over Ready

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread David Chittenden
Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:05 PM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Pablo, The email tracking bug is definitely annoying. Have you figured out what it actually does, or do you believe it just jumps VO all

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread David Chittenden
responded to me, that they are going to fix it, and they are apologized about it. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:58 PM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Pablo, VO

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread David Chittenden
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:52 PM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Pablo, At an educated guess after observing the double announcement of screen lock, it looks like screen lock announcement is being triggered every time iOS drops

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread May and Noah
: When will Apple take this seriously? Hello, Here is my summary of this entire thread: The original poster complained about 3 items and pointed out a fourth: 1. Hanging up phone calls is unreliable 2. He can't tap on a phone number in a text message or email to dial it or save

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread May and Noah
, 2013 9:13 PM Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? Pablo, The occasional occurrences of VO suddenly becoming silent for a little while appears to be iOS resetting its memory. In most cases, if you wait 15 to 30 seconds, VO comes back on and says Voice Over Ready. This means