Re: I heard from Winston Chen

2015-05-18 Thread christopher hallsworth
Same here. Was going to forward it to the list but didn't. *smile*. > On 19 May 2015, at 05:52, Lori Dent wrote: > > Hi all, > > > i received an email back from Winston Chen earlier today and I just saw it > just a few minutes ago. > He said my suggestion was a good one and he will add it t

Re: Question regarding Spotify

2015-05-18 Thread christopher hallsworth
If you have an iPad, there's no need to subscribe to Spotify unless you don't want the ads. If not, then you will have to subscribe to get the best out of Spotify. It costs $9.99 US/month. > On 19 May 2015, at 07:22, princessterr...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello everyone, > I was wondering, does an

Re: Does audio description work with the Apple TV and Netflix?

2015-05-18 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Kevin, no, the second generation won't do the audio description. But if you have the video description setting, then you have the third generation. It is really odd that you don't have the audio description track on titles that support it. It's working OK at this end which I realise doesn't he

RE: Does audio description work with the Apple TV and Netflix?

2015-05-18 Thread Kevin Minor
Hi Jonathan. I signed out of Netflix and back in again on my Apple TV, but I still don’t see audio description as an option. My Apple TV is a couple years old, so I’m not sure it’s a third generation. Will audio description work on an older Apple TV with Netflix? I did notice that audio d

Question regarding Spotify

2015-05-18 Thread princessterri76
Hello everyone, I was wondering, does anyone know how much Spotify cost? Is it a monthly subscription? Or is it a yearly subscription? I am running a trial version of it right now, that last about a week. I am considering purchasing it. But I would like to know how much it cost, before I do this

Re: Does audio description work with the Apple TV and Netflix?

2015-05-18 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Kevin, thanks a lot for buying the Apple TV book. Yes, it definitely works, we use it a lot here at home. I have heard that some people have had to sign out of Netflix and back in again. So it's worth a try doing that. We just watched Daddy Daycare with audio description the other night as a

Re: Delete broken in latest audible update?

2015-05-18 Thread Robin Frost
Hi, I'm also noticing quite frequent crashes in this app too since the update. I.E. when trying to initiate a download from my cloud which I'm doing a lot since when I launched the app all my resident titles were gone. I've rebooted the phone, deleted and reinstalled the app and am trying again

Does audio description work with the Apple TV and Netflix?

2015-05-18 Thread Kevin Minor
Hi. I just purchased Jonathan Mosen's book on the Apple TV. I eagerly went to Netflix to see if audio description worked. I looked at Turbo and Robocop, which the web site indicated were audio described. I started playing, and found the language selections. They didn't have audio descriptio

Re: I heard from Winston Chen

2015-05-18 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi Lori. That's great. Disregard my last message then. Speaking of Voice Dream products, does anyone know when Winston will add Acapela Sharon to the list of voices you can download? Shawn Sent from my White MacBook > On May 18, 2015, at 11:52 PM, Lori Dent wrote: > > Hi all, > > > i re

Re: Winston Chen

2015-05-18 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Most likely through your Gmail. I don't use Voice Dream Writer but I'm pretty sure it doesn't have the ability to receive emails. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook > On May 18, 2015, at 11:27 PM, Lori Dent wrote: > > Hi Craig, > > I have no doubt that Winston will respond back to my email t

Re: Winston Chen

2015-05-18 Thread Lori Dent
Hi Craig, I have no doubt that Winston will respond back to my email to him. How will I know he responded back to me through the voice dream writer app or through my gmail on my phone? Thanks. Lori and the Gipper -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list

I heard from Winston Chen

2015-05-18 Thread Lori Dent
Hi all, i received an email back from Winston Chen earlier today and I just saw it just a few minutes ago. He said my suggestion was a good one and he will add it to his to do list. Lori and the Gipper -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new m

Re: Delete broken in latest audible update?

2015-05-18 Thread Craig Werner
Hello, Mary and Anna. I can also confirm this problem. I recall that a few versions back, Audible broke the "delete" option in the app but fixed it in the next version. The User Guide for the app mentions a trash icon in the top left corner of the app which must be activated before a book can be

Re: Updating question

2015-05-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Yes, you do want to update your carrier settings. These are changes to your settings in IOS 8 that your carrier has released to improve connectivity, speeds and so on. Just Google for carrier settings on your iPhone, and depending on your carrier, you'll see the different kind of issues that ha

gifting an iBook, follow-up

2015-05-18 Thread Vicky Collins
Just thought I would let you all know how things turned out with my gifting that iBook to my sister. I had both good luck and bad luck in the end, with the very end result turning out to be not so good. First, for the success part of the equation. Remember, I was told I needed to verify my

Re: Delete broken in latest audible update?

2015-05-18 Thread Mary Otten
Thanks, Anna. I am, of course, sorry that you now have this problem. But In a way, I'm glad, because at least now I don't feel like I'm going crazy. I hope they come out with a fix soon. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > Befor

RE: App switcher on IOS 8.3

2015-05-18 Thread Pinky
I checked and melty tasking gestures is turn on. Any other suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 7:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: App switcher on IOS

Re: How do I rename a photo?

2015-05-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
What I'm curious about is can sighted people rename these files or is this just a limitation for VoiceOver users? On 05/18/2015 04:36 PM, Carol Pearson wrote: Yes, I understand how to do this using Windows but I was hoping to be able to rename the photo on the phone and keep that name, whatever

Re: App switcher on IOS 8.3

2015-05-18 Thread Alex Hall
You said you went to Settings already, but for the sake of completeness I'll say it anyway: head into Settings, then check the status of "multi-tasking gestures". As I recall, this option is in the main settings list, not buried in General or another location. I may be wrong, however. > On May 1

RE: KNFB Reader

2015-05-18 Thread Chris Smart
why not transfer the money to your friend in Pakistan by wire, Paypal, etc.? At 01:48 PM 5/18/2015, you wrote: Hi, Sieghard. I have a scenario here. My Apple ID is from Canada, can I buy my friend in Pakistan Apple Gift card while I am there so he could buy Knfb Reader from a Pakistani Store?

Re: Alex voice

2015-05-18 Thread Terry-Ann Saurmann
Yes, I believe that is also correct. Terry - Original Message - From: Pinky To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 6:26 PM Subject: RE: Alex voice Terry, You are correct. You have jard my old memory bank. I remember now you have to have the 64 bit sy

Re: Delete broken in latest audible update?

2015-05-18 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Mary, Before I wrote to answer you the first time, I checked the app store to see whether there was a newer version of Audible than what I had on my phone. There wasn't, so I thought you were using the same version that I was. However, I have since checked again, and now there's a newer vers

RE: My apple TV 3rd generation has left the building

2015-05-18 Thread Larry Lumpkin
We use it mostly to listen to all the music I ripped. I’ve ripped all of my over 1000 cds to ITunes. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 6:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My apple TV 3rd generation

Re: My apple TV 3rd generation has left the building

2015-05-18 Thread Eileen
You're welcome. I needed a long time ago to learn how to do this. I have an old Apple TV 2. I'm glad you were able to get voiceover up and running again. Happy watching. Eileen Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2015, at 4:26 PM, Larry Lumpkin wrote: > > Eileen, your suggestion worked like a

RE: Alex voice

2015-05-18 Thread Pinky
Terry, You are correct. You have jard my old memory bank. I remember now you have to have the 64 bit system to have the Alex Voice if my old memory is correct. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terry-Ann Saurmann Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 6:06 P

RE: My apple TV 3rd generation has left the building

2015-05-18 Thread Larry Lumpkin
Eileen, your suggestion worked like a charm. Voiceover is up and running again. Thanks From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 2:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My apple TV 3rd generation has left the

Re: Alex voice

2015-05-18 Thread Terry-Ann Saurmann
I believe you have to have an IPhone 5S or later in order to use Alex. He is in the English US voices. If that is the case for you, let me know and I will help you to find him. Terry - Original Message - From: Pinky To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 5:2

Re: Delete broken in latest audible update?

2015-05-18 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Anna, Are you seeing a "menu" button just to the right of each title? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2015, at 3:38 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > I'm using an iPhone, a 6 Plus to be exact. I can't find the Remove buttons by > exploring the screen, but if I find a ti

Re: Downgrading to iPhone four and don't want to lose contacts

2015-05-18 Thread Gmail
I haven't tested any of these to see if they work with Voice over, but here are two apps that might be of assistance. My Contacts Backup by GLOBILE BILISIM BILGISAYAR HIZMETLERI ILETISIM DANISMANLIK SANAYI TICARET LIMITED SIRKETI https://appsto.re/us/rrwOA.i Backup Contacts + Share by Jonathan Te

Re: Delete broken in latest audible update?

2015-05-18 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Mary, I'm using an iPhone, a 6 Plus to be exact. I can't find the Remove buttons by exploring the screen, but if I find a title and flick right once, I land on the Remove button for that title. This works consistently for me. HTH, Anna > On May 18, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >

Still no luck with the audible delete

2015-05-18 Thread Mary Otten
After receiving on his message, I went back to the audible app, having first taken it out of my app switcher. I double tap the delete button, and look for a remove X, where X is the book title. No luck. I get book title, menu, and who are the narrators, and progress. But no delete. Not with touc

Re: Delete broken in latest audible update?

2015-05-18 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Anna, Are you flicking to find that remove button or isn't there only if you use touch? I tried both, and so far, haven't found this button. Is it on the same line to the left of the book titles? Are you using a phone or an iPad? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Woody

Alex voice

2015-05-18 Thread Pinky
Hi Group, Where do I find the Alex voice? I have looked all over in setting and have not found it. Please inform me as to where to look. Ed -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have a

Re: Delete broken in latest audible update?

2015-05-18 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Mary, After you press the Delete button, you'll find a button next to each title that says "Remove" followed by the book title. Double-tap it, confirm that you want to delete the book, and it's gone. Double-tap the Delete button at the top of the screen when you're finished deleting books, a

Delete broken in latest audible update?

2015-05-18 Thread Mary Otten
I just downloaded the latest audible update to my iPhone 5s. I don't use this app on the phone very often. I decided I wanted to get rid of a rather long book that has been on the phone for sometime, in order to free up some much needed space. I cannot find a way to do this. There is a delete bu

Re: How do I rename a photo?

2015-05-18 Thread Carol Pearson
Yes, I understand how to do this using Windows but I was hoping to be able to rename the photo on the phone and keep that name, whatever I did and for as long as I Chose. However, it doepn't appear that I can do this. I personally feel quite strongly that this should be easily achievable so that

Headphone Jack Splitter That Allows Dual Remote Control Functionality?

2015-05-18 Thread Alan Lemly
Does anyone know of a headphone splitter that would allow me to connect two Apple earpods to my iPhone and give the two users control with their volume and remote earpod buttons? I've been trolling Amazon without success and thought I'd post here in hopes that someone could give me a product and mo

Re: Winston Chen

2015-05-18 Thread Craig Werner
Lori, it's not obligatory to leave the words "Comment (Writer) in the "Subject" line. The only point I was trying to make is that the presence of a word or phrase in the "Subject" line alerts a busy person such as Winston that your message relates to a particular app.. For instance, let's assume

Downgrading to iPhone four and don't want to lose contacts

2015-05-18 Thread TaraPrakash
Dear all. Here is a situation. I have to probably replace my iphone 5C and till I have a different phone, I will have to use my old ipone 4. I have two different backups on itunes for two kind of phones and I don't want to delete either of them. I can update iphone 4 with the backup for iphone 5

Re: Question on updating to IOS 8.3

2015-05-18 Thread christopher hallsworth
iCloud Drive shares the free 5 GB storage plan you have. > On 18 May 2015, at 20:36, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. > wrote: > > Is iCloud drive different from the 5GB of iCloud storage we used to get for > free? > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

RE: How do I improve dictation with Siri

2015-05-18 Thread Thom Spittle
Hi Sieghard, What is different is that the text is still there, but it is all selected. So, a tap of the delete button will get rid of it all. Let me know if it works that way for you. Thom http://training.thinkaccess.org -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:vipho

App switcher on IOS 8.3

2015-05-18 Thread Pinky
I have just downloaded IOS 8.3 to my iPad. Before I updated from IOS 7 I use to do a four finger swipe up and it use to open the app switcher. I know this four finger swipe up only workds on iPad. But now that I have updated to IOS 8.3 the four finger swipe up does not work on my iPad. Can someon

Re: My apple TV 3rd generation has left the building

2015-05-18 Thread Eileen
Hello, I hope this will help. Use the Apple remote that came with the Apple TV. There are 2 buttons under the big select button. The button on the left is the main menu button. Press it for about 3-5 seconds. Press the up arrow once This should place you on the voiceover option. Now, you can pr

RE: Question on updating to IOS 8.3

2015-05-18 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Is iCloud drive different from the 5GB of iCloud storage we used to get for free? From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 1:18 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Question on updating to IOS 8.3 It's up to you,

Re: Qustion about voice dream writer

2015-05-18 Thread Richard Turner
I've not experienced this. I think it would also be helpful for people to say if they are using iCloud or not. I am not using iCloud because I do not trust auto-saving to the cloud. If I want to back things up to the cloud, I export them, otherwise, they stay on my phone. But, I will experiment

My apple TV 3rd generation has left the building

2015-05-18 Thread Larry Lumpkin
Hi. When I use either the USB keyboard or the remote, all I get is a boing. Can someone tell me how to get Voiceover back? Thanks. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any ques

Re: How do I rename a photo?

2015-05-18 Thread Steve
You can do that in Windows. But, since the renaming of photos on the phone is only valid on the phone, those don't carry forward when they are exported since you aren't actually renaming the file as you are with the f2 command in Windows. - Original Message - From: Vincent Thacker To:

RE: Question on updating to IOS 8.3

2015-05-18 Thread matthew dyer
Hi, This is not required if you do not store anything in the cloud, you should be find to just dismiss th

Re: Question on updating to IOS 8.3

2015-05-18 Thread Alex Hall
It's up to you, really. If you never use iCloud to sync data and documents, you're fine. If, however, you sync between, say, a Mac and your iPad or an iPad and an iPod Touch, you must enable or disable iCloud Drive on all devices. Put another way, iCloud Drive is not backwards-compatible with an

Re: Qustion about voice dream writer

2015-05-18 Thread Craig Werner
Winston Chen now says that the problem of partially saved files has indeed been reported, so he must have received enough email about it to warrant investigation. I am in a conversation with him now in which he has asked me how I save files. I am experimenting with closing the app right after ente

Re: KNFB Reader

2015-05-18 Thread Shaf
As stated a number of times previously, iTunes only allows gift cards to be used from the country they were bought from. On 5/18/2015 6:48 PM, Fazil wrote: Hi, Sieghard. I have a scenario here. My Apple ID is from Canada, can I buy my friend in Pakistan Apple Gift card while I am there so he

RE: KNFB Reader

2015-05-18 Thread Fazil
Hi, Sieghard. I have a scenario here. My Apple ID is from Canada, can I buy my friend in Pakistan Apple Gift card while I am there so he could buy Knfb Reader from a Pakistani Store? Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

Updating question

2015-05-18 Thread Pinky
After I updated to IOS 8.3 a message came up on my iTunes on my pc asking me if I wanted to update the carrier setting. Do I do this update after I have already updated to IOS 8.3? I don't know what this carrier setting are. Please advise what this is? Ed -- The following information is impo

Question on updating to IOS 8.3

2015-05-18 Thread Pinky
I updated my iPad from IOS 7 to IOS 8.3. After updating it asked me if I want to update to iCloud drive. Do I need to do this or just cancel this this? This is being asked me after I updated. I don't store anything in iCloud. Ed -- The following information is important for all members of t

Re: youtube

2015-05-18 Thread Eden Kizer
Does a channel get auntomaticY created with your account, I did not see anything after fettings and what to watch. Also, what is the best way to record the video. The video app just says I have no vids but doesn't seem to show I can upload any. Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2015, at 8:40 A

Accessible Scrabble Game?

2015-05-18 Thread Terry-Ann Saurmann
Hi all, I thought I recently read information on this list regarding a scrabble game that is fully accessible to a totally blind user of an IOS device. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find it now. I have not had any luck in finding one on AppleVis either, so I'm hoping someone here can help, p

RE: youtube

2015-05-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Eden, Double tap the menu button at the top left of the screen in the Youtube app. Starting at the top you have “Your account” followed by your Google account email address if you are signed in, if not you have to of course sign in before you can upload. If you swipe to the right, the n

RE: How do I improve dictation with Siri

2015-05-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Tom, Have you actually tried this recently? At least for me this has not worked in quite a long time. Voiceover will announce the prompt to Undo what you dictated and I can double tap on Yes,but if I then actually check the text is still there just the same. At least this is the case in the

Re: How do I rename a photo?

2015-05-18 Thread Vincent Thacker
Carol, I don't iknow any reason why it shouldn't work. In Windows, if you want to rename a file, just select it and press F2, then you can type in a new name. So if you don't get the name you want, it's easily sorted. Vince. Message Received: May 18

RE: KNFB Reader

2015-05-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
As far as I know the same rules apply to gifting an app, i.e. you cannot gift an app to somebody whose Apple Id is from a different country. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alexander Masic/Surgubben Sent: Monday, May 18, 2

Re: How do I rename a photo?

2015-05-18 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Hmm! Does this work when pictures are exported, does anyone know? Carol P - Original Message - From: "Thom Spittle" To: Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 3:26 PM Subject: RE: How do I rename a photo? I just did a 2 finger double tap and hold. This is the same as renaming an app icon. Th

RE: KNFB Reader

2015-05-18 Thread Cristóbal
I found this out when we wanted to help my in-laws in germany with their iTunes account. They just ended up having to go to whatever convenient store close by and buy an iTunes gift cards to then add to their account for credit. They do this method instead of providing any sort of credit or debi

Re: How do I rename a photo?

2015-05-18 Thread Shaf
I don't think you can. You have to guess when exporting. This is really unfortunate. On 5/18/2015 3:26 PM, Thom Spittle wrote: I just did a 2 finger double tap and hold. This is the same as renaming an app icon. This worked, but I'm not sure if it will hold this name when you export the photo

RE: How do I improve dictation with Siri

2015-05-18 Thread Thom Spittle
Also, if you find that siri cut you off, when she asks if you want to send it, say add, and she will add to your dictation. Thom http://training.thinkaccess.org/ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:43

Re: Question on excess ability of Western Digital cloud app

2015-05-18 Thread Andrew Lamanche
I have Western Digital mycloud connected via ethernet to airport Extreme. Their application for mac is not at all accessible. I've contacted them via Facebook page of theirs whic which I reported to the group. They were apologetic and made promises with no time commitment to improve accessibi

RE: How do I rename a photo?

2015-05-18 Thread Thom Spittle
I just did a 2 finger double tap and hold. This is the same as renaming an app icon. This worked, but I'm not sure if it will hold this name when you export the photo, but it works while the photo is on your phone. Thom http://training.thinkaccess.org/ -Original Message- From: viphone

RE: How do I improve dictation with Siri

2015-05-18 Thread Thom Spittle
You can shake your phone and it will prompt you to undo your dictation. Thom -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of princessterr...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 11:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: How do I impro

Re: Qustion about voice dream writer

2015-05-18 Thread Andrew Lamanche
This is also my experience that the last entries in the document in Writer do not always get saved. So I've given Writer up for now. I had an e-mail exchange with the developer of wRiter and he said that anything entered should be saved automatically but this is not my experience. Mind you, I

Re: Page Change Gesture Not Working

2015-05-18 Thread Bill Gallik
I cannot remember what is changed, I just recall that I had at least one setting changed to my disliking. - Bill & Leader Dog Holland - "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) - Original Message - From: "

Re: Speech Off VS Voiceover Off?

2015-05-18 Thread Bill Gallik
Yes, those who have answered you that Voice-Over off and Speech off are not the same are quite correct. But you might be wondering what the advantage of using one over the other might be; with Speech off you still have the VoiceOver focus on the last spoken item. So, for example, if you were i

Re: KNFB Reader

2015-05-18 Thread Alan J Paganelli
I totally am in to gift cards especially when I can get them at a great price like a hundred dollar gift card for 75 bucks. They don’t give you that kind of deal at the grocery store but Apple does. Regards, Alan Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your parents? Act now! Move out. Get a

Re: Question on excess ability of Western Digital cloud app

2015-05-18 Thread Thom Spittle
I have two external Western Digital drives. I don't use them to upload content from my phone to the drive, but I do use it to watch meteor that is on my drive when I'm not at home. It's not perfectly accessible, but with a little thought process it works just fine. There's a lot of flicking Do y

Question on excess ability of Western Digital cloud app

2015-05-18 Thread Kellie
Hey everyone, I was just curious if anyone had the Western Digital cloud app. And if so, if it was accessible. I'm asking because my husband is thinking about getting one of their external drives which can be connected to the Internet and use as our own personal cloud on our home network I was c

youtube

2015-05-18 Thread Eden Kizer
I have never made a video on my phone nor posted anything to youtube before. It has now come to a point I need to do so. Can someone please recommend the best way of doing this. Prefer the most accessible, but I will have some sighted help if necessary. I have heard the videos app is ok for recordi

Re: KNFB Reader

2015-05-18 Thread Alexander Masic/Surgubben
however i think it is possible to purchase the ssofware as a gift, That person will get an sms/mail with a link to that purchased software. christopher hallsworth skrev den 15-05-18 08:51: iTunes gift cards and iTunes gifts can only be redeemed or used in the same country where the gift card

Re: Speech Off VS Voiceover Off?

2015-05-18 Thread christopher hallsworth
While I do not own a compatible Braille display, I should imagine muting speech would be very useful for Braille users too. > On 18 May 2015, at 02:08, David Cleveland wrote: > > When you turn off speech with the gesture you will still have voiceover > running in the background. This means that