date:20200325

Richard:

Yes, this is a very strange behavior.  Guess the best thing to do is forget 
about yesterday and just think about tomorrow.  LOL!

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Re: changing speed of podcast playback

2020-03-25 Thread Phoebe Harris

Here's how I change speed in the native podcast app:
1. Find a podcast episode
2. Double tap on the episode to start playing it
3. Double tap the episode again to bring up the Now Playing screen
4. Swipe right until you hear something like "Playback speed, Normal
speed button" and double tap that button to find your desired speed
The Playback speed button is between the volume slider and the
Playback Destination button. You can also find it by touching the
lower left corner of the screen.
I hope that helps.

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> when i selected now playing, i still couldn’t find it, can you say exactly
> where it is and how to change speed of podcasts with voice over.
>
> thanks
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> In the visual GUI, the iOS podcast app shows the current playback speed in
> the lower left corner when you have the current podcast playing and "now
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

I'm copying Apple Accessibility with this message since we are getting very 
different results.
Holly, you asked Siri to spell yesterday, and the American female said 
"yestertay" but spelled it with a d.
I did the same thing but the Siri American Female said "yesterday" and spelled 
it with the d, of course.
But, the Siri American male voice said, "yestertay", and spelled with the d.
I could not get any other voice, Siri or VoiceOver to say "yestertay."
However, others have had samantha and tom, and others say yesterday as 
yestertay.
This all makes less than no sense and is probably impossible to track down 
since it is not a consistent bug.
Since Apple is likely done with iOS 13 now those who are bothered by this are 
probably stuck with it until at least iOS 14.
HTH,



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On Mar 25, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Holly  wrote:


I asked Siri to spell ‘yesterday’  She said it with a t, but spelled it with a 
d.

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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

Richard,

 

I had tried modifying my Voiceover pronunciations to customize yesterday to 
correct this issue without success until I was successful now by spelling the 
substitution word as yesterday spelling the second syllable as t u r instead of 
t e r. For some strange reason, this corrects the pronunciation. Spelling the 
substitution word with an upper case D for day did not change my iPhone's 
pronunciation of the last syllable as if it began with a t.

 

Thanks for all the responses on this issue which I still find a bit perplexing 
considering our varying results. But I'll put it to bed now.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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upgrade?

 

Well, for those who are experiencing this, have you tried going into VoiceOver 
settings, Speech, pronunciation and put in yesterday with the substitution as 
yester space day to see if it solves the issue, though it may have a bit of a 
pause in the middle. 

And, of course, everyone should write Apple, but given how inconsistent it is, 
I wouldn't hold my breath.

 





Richard 

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On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

 

Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using 
Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I 
got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Holly
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two separate 
voices.

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread J. Cyr

I mentioned this issue earlier today when I called Apple Accessibility on an 
unrelated matter.  That advisor hadn't heard of and could not duplicate the 
problem.  I downloaded the update this evening and I too have both Samantha and 
Siri pronouncing yesterday as yestertay.  So I called Apple Accessibility back 
to report it.  Again this advisor had not heard of this issue.  It would seem 
that the more people who are experiencing the problem and contact Accessibility 
the better.  It would be ood to get it as a topic trending on their feed.

Joy


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Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using 
Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I 
got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.
 
Alan Lemly
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Holly
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 6:21 PM
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I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two separate 
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I asked Siri to spell ‘yesterday’  She said it with a t, but spelled it with a 
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Well, for those who are experiencing this, have you tried going into VoiceOver 
settings, Speech, pronunciation and put in yesterday with the substitution as 
yester space day to see if it solves the issue, though it may have a bit of a 
pause in the middle.
And, of course, everyone should write Apple, but given how inconsistent it is, 
I wouldn't hold my breath.



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Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using 
Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I 
got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.

Alan Lemly

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I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two separate 
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Re: Second Message MS Teams

2020-03-25 Thread Ann Byrne


FS did a webinar on it last month.
At 08:56 PM 3/25/2020, you wrote:
I have not used it yet, and do not know of a 
tutorial, but here is the link to the app:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-teams/id1113153706



Richard
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ï»¿
Is there an app for Microsoft Teams or is it 
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Using iPhone 7 with IOS 13.3 something.

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Vivian and Sallie


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Re: Second Message MS Teams

2020-03-25 Thread PRAMIT BHARGAVA

Hi,

Microsoft Teams is completely accessible with on both PC and mobile devices.
Have used it without an issue.

Adding below the link from Microsoft with the complete information on how
to use Teams on various devices with screen reader.
information it includes is for iOS, MacOS, Android, Web and WIndows PC.

On PC you can either down the application or can use your browser to access
it.
For iOS download the Microsoft Teams application and use it.

Link Below:
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/accessibility-support-for-microsoft-teams-d12ee53f-d15f-445e-be8d-f0ba2c5ee68f#PickTab=iOS

Hope this helps

Pramit

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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using 
Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I 
got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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upgrade?

 

I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two separate 
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Re: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds please

Another thought is to check out known brands like Sony, Koss, JVL, etc.
You will want a frequency range from probably from 50 or 100 hertz, to 16000, 
to 2 hertz so you are covering a good range from decent base to high treble.
If you have any stores in your area, you might try calling to ask what they 
have.
Its hard to find the specs listed on web sites like Amazon, though you might if 
you dig deeply enough.



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On Mar 25, 2020, at 6:56 PM, Mike B  wrote:


Are you looking for an actual headset that goes over or on top of the ears?  
Or, would a Aftershokz JawBone conduction wired headset be an option?

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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds please

I have the adapter actually. Thank you for at least answering my inquiry 
Richard.
I bought a wired headset  on amazon for $14.. That was a terrible waste of 
fourteen bucks.
Regards
drew

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
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Subject: RE: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds please

Your subject line said, wired.
The challenge will be to find a wired headset that has the lightning plug.
Or, do you have the lightning to 3.5 MM adapter?

Good luck in finding a good quality headset for $50.

I’m sure there are some out there.




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Hello all,
I’ve been searching for what’s in subject line. I had a nice Harman Kardan 
headset but cannot find it anywhere. Its all blue tooth. I don’t want to pay 
more than $50 if possible
Thanks
drew
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Thanks Richard.  Going to try this now.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

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Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 6:53 PM
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Subject: Re: Attachments in Native Mail

 

Usually, attachments are at the bottom of the message. 

I usually touch the lower left corner, then flick left, and most of the time, I 
land right on the attachment and double tap.

Sometimes it will say double tap to download, then once the file name shows up, 
another double tap will open it.

Once in a while, I have to flick left to get beyond the signature, then find 
the attachment.

HTH,

 





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OK I know this has been discussed but I don’t recall how to open an attachment 
in the Native Mail app.

 

I am using an iPhone 7 with 13.3….

 

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: Second Message MS Teams

Thanks All.  We are working from home starting tomorrow and there is a meeting 
scheduled in Teams.  Hoping it isn’t too difficult.  

 

I will download the app and check it out.  I also downloaded the Vispero 
(Freedom Scientific) resource guide.

 

Again thanks so much.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

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Subject: Re: Second Message MS Teams

 

Hello,

 

I have to use at work

 

Here is a link for more information

 

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/accessibility-support-for-microsoft-teams-d12ee53f-d15f-445e-be8d-f0ba2c5ee68f

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Le 25 mars 2020 à 21:58, Rajiv Shah mailto:rms...@starpower.net> > a écrit :

Hi,

I use the app every day. I would recommend it as a good starting point over the 
Web interface, as it will give any user a good sense of how Teams works.

Rajiv

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Subject: Re: Second Message MS Teams


I have not used it yet, and do not know of a tutorial, but here is the link to 
the app:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-teams/id1113153706 
 

 

 

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Is there an app for Microsoft Teams or is it just for the PC?  Also does anyone 
know of a tutorial for Teams?

 

Using iPhone 7 with IOS 13.3 something.

 

Many thanks for any ideas.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 


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Re: Second Message MS Teams

2020-03-25 Thread l . d . ethier23

Hello,

I have to use at work

Here is a link for more information

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/accessibility-support-for-microsoft-teams-d12ee53f-d15f-445e-be8d-f0ba2c5ee68f

Lyne

> Le 25 mars 2020 à 21:58, Rajiv Shah  a écrit :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use the app every day. I would recommend it as a good starting point over 
> the Web interface, as it will give any user a good sense of how Teams works.
> 
> Rajiv
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 21:56:10 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: Second Message MS Teams
> 
> 
> I have not used it yet, and do not know of a tutorial, but here is the link 
> to the app:
> 
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-teams/id1113153706
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> “
> 
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Is there an app for Microsoft Teams or is it just for the PC?  Also does 
> anyone know of a tutorial for Teams?
> 
>  
> 
> Using iPhone 7 with IOS 13.3 something.
> 
>  
> 
> Many thanks for any ideas.
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> 
> Vivian and Sallie
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Re: Second Message MS Teams

2020-03-25 Thread Rajiv Shah

Hi,I use the app every day. I would recommend it as a good starting point over 
the Web interface, as it will give any user a good sense of how Teams 
works.Rajiv

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Subject: Re: Second Message MS Teams

I have not used it yet, and do not know of a tutorial, but here is the link to 
the app:https://apps.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-teams/id1113153706

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Re: Second Message MS Teams

I have not used it yet, and do not know of a tutorial, but here is the link to 
the app:
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Re: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds please

2020-03-25 Thread Mike B

Are you looking for an actual headset that goes over or on top of the ears? 
Or, would a Aftershokz JawBone conduction wired headset be an option?

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone 
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- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds 
please


I have the adapter actually. Thank you for at least answering my inquiry 
Richard.

I bought a wired headset  on amazon for $14.. That was a terrible waste of 
fourteen bucks.

Regards

drew



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Subject: RE: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds 
please



Your subject line said, wired.

The challenge will be to find a wired headset that has the lightning plug.

Or, do you have the lightning to 3.5 MM adapter?



Good luck in finding a good quality headset for $50.



I’m sure there are some out there.









Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.





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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 AM
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Hello all,

I’ve been searching for what’s in subject line. I had a nice Harman Kardan 
headset but cannot find it anywhere. Its all blue tooth. I don’t want to pay 
more than $50 if possible

Thanks

drew

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Re: Attachments in Native Mail

Usually, attachments are at the bottom of the message.
I usually touch the lower left corner, then flick left, and most of the time, I 
land right on the attachment and double tap.
Sometimes it will say double tap to download, then once the file name shows up, 
another double tap will open it.
Once in a while, I have to flick left to get beyond the signature, then find 
the attachment.
HTH,



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On Mar 25, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Vivian Conger  wrote:


OK I know this has been discussed but I don’t recall how to open an attachment 
in the Native Mail app.

I am using an iPhone 7 with 13.3….

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

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Second Message MS Teams

Is there an app for Microsoft Teams or is it just for the PC?  Also does
anyone know of a tutorial for Teams?

 

Using iPhone 7 with IOS 13.3 something.

 

Many thanks for any ideas.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

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Attachments in Native Mail

OK I know this has been discussed but I don't recall how to open an
attachment in the Native Mail app.

 

I am using an iPhone 7 with 13.3..

 

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Re: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds please

I could imagine a $14 headset sounding pretty awful.
I hope you returned them.
I know there are some that can sound pretty good.
Let me do a little more digging.



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On Mar 25, 2020, at 6:28 PM, andrew  wrote:


I have the adapter actually. Thank you for at least answering my inquiry 
Richard.
I bought a wired headset  on amazon for $14.. That was a terrible waste of 
fourteen bucks.
Regards
drew

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds please

Your subject line said, wired.
The challenge will be to find a wired headset that has the lightning plug.
Or, do you have the lightning to 3.5 MM adapter?

Good luck in finding a good quality headset for $50.

I’m sure there are some out there.




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of andrew
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds please

Hello all,
I’ve been searching for what’s in subject line. I had a nice Harman Kardan 
headset but cannot find it anywhere. Its all blue tooth. I don’t want to pay 
more than $50 if possible
Thanks
drew
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RE: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds please

2020-03-25 Thread andrew

I have the adapter actually. Thank you for at least answering my inquiry 
Richard.

I bought a wired headset  on amazon for $14.. That was a terrible waste of 
fourteen bucks.

Regards

drew

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds please

 

Your subject line said, wired.

The challenge will be to find a wired headset that has the lightning plug.

Or, do you have the lightning to 3.5 MM adapter?

 

Good luck in finding a good quality headset for $50.

 

I’m sure there are some out there.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
andrew
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Subject: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds please

 

Hello all,

I’ve been searching for what’s in subject line. I had a nice Harman Kardan 
headset but cannot find it anywhere. Its all blue tooth. I don’t want to pay 
more than $50 if possible

Thanks

drew

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Re: Locked out of Mac mini main screen

2020-03-25 Thread John Panarese

   Depending on his version of the operating system, you can try to restart the 
Mac in recovery mode. Hold the command and r keys together at startup and keep 
them down. You should be able to access the recovery HD. From there, select, 
terminal, from the utilities menu and use the
resetpassword
Utility to reset his password.


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> On Mar 25, 2020, at 9:16 PM, 'Nancy Badger' via VIPhone 
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> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. 
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Locked out of Mac mini main screen

2020-03-25 Thread 'Nancy Badger' via VIPhone




Nancy Badger, Ph.D
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Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. Hi 
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My husband has a Mac mini that he has not used for about four years. He is 
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Thanks very much! I hope you all are well.
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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

I did more experimenting.

If I set VoiceOver to use the Siri American Female, or got Siri to say the word 
Yesterday, it sounded normal.
When I switched to the Siri American Male, it said yestertay  with the t 
instead of a d as in day.
But for me, no other VoiceOver voice mispronounced yesterday.

So, now that this horse has been beaten to death, I’m going to leave this 
thread alone.
No company can really sort out a bug that is completely inconsistent.  So, 
whatever crept into some voices that screw up the pronunciation perhaps will go 
away after the next update.
Or not.
Very odd stuff this.

Richard

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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

Wayne,
Alan, who began this thread, specifically said he was using VoiceOver, not Siri.

He mentioned Samantha and Tom.

I have no issues with any voice in VoiceOver.

Now, are you saying that you have tried it with VoiceOver using the Siri 
female, or just asking Siri to say Yesterday, or what?




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Scott
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 4:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

With Siri female, it pronounces it yestertay. But, I don't use speech very 
often. like
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On Mar 25, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Anne West 
mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It looks like voice over doesn’t know the difference between letters D and T.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 14:38
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

Hello all,

While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I definitely 
hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.

Sent from my iPhone



On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.
iPhone SE.




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On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi List,

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but I'm 
curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of certain 
words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I 
notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it 
begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this same 
mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if 
others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades 
in the App Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of 
hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

Alan Lemly
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Re: Enhanced.

2020-03-25 Thread Robin


Think Samantha (Enhanced) is More Expressive
Personaly, I use Apple's Alex or is it  VoiceOver's Alex
or
the Default Samantha
At 04:25 PM 3/25/2020, you wrote:

I just use Samantha, but what is the difference in Samantha
and Samantha enhanced? Thanks.

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Wayne Scott

With Siri female, it pronounces it yestertay. But, I don't use speech very 
often. like

Wayne Scott 

"Everything happens in God's chime." 
 

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Anne West  wrote:
> 
> 
> It looks like voice over doesn’t know the difference between letters D and T.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 14:38
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> Hello all,
>  
> While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I definitely 
> hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
> english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.
> iPhone SE.
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." 
> Sent from my iPhone
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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>  
> 
> 
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but 
> I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of 
> certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my 
> iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now 
> pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. 
> I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom 
> enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a 
> list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the 
> upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>  
> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Mail, update and voice over

2020-03-25 Thread Anne West

Hi everyone.

 

I updated my phone and found my mail to be as before. I also found that my
phone operates more smoothly. I turned on "Hey Siri" always so hope it
doesn't call 911 like it did previously.

 

A strange thing happens with some of the updates. I use Samantha Enhanced
for my voice and when I update, the voice changes to a lower pitch. Powering
off doesn't help but it goes back to the way I like it shortly after I use
the phone. Odd. Anyone else have the same thing? I use an iPhone 8.

 

Stay safe everyone.

 

Anne

 

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Enhanced.

2020-03-25 Thread Carolyn

I just use Samantha, but what is the difference in Samantha
and Samantha enhanced? Thanks. 

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

It works fine on my SE.
So, I am of the opinion that VoiceOver knows the difference just fine.



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On Mar 25, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Anne West  wrote:


It looks like voice over doesn’t know the difference between letters D and T.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 14:38
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

Hello all,

While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I definitely 
hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.
iPhone SE.



Richard
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On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi List,

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but I'm 
curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of certain 
words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I 
notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it 
begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this same 
mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if 
others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades 
in the App Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of 
hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two separate 
voices.

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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Anne West

It looks like voice over doesn’t know the difference between letters D and T.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 14:38
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

Hello all,

While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I definitely 
hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
english Moira, or the Australian Karen. 

I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.

iPhone SE.

Richard 

"There's a nap for that." 

Sent from my iPhone

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“

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Hi List,

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but I'm 
curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of certain 
words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I 
notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it 
begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this same 
mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if 
others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades 
in the App Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of 
hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

Alan Lemly

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RE: Iphone and face book

2020-03-25 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe

I will definitely work with this info you gave me.  All tips will help me get 
to where I need to get to learn facebook.  Thank you so much.  Andy and Shubert

-Original Message-
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Kalaluhi
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 7:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Iphone and face book

Hi 
I do not know of any beginner books for Facebook and IPhone but do have a 
couple of suggestions for your immediate problem.  

If you have to compose the post, I recommend that you compose it on your 
computer and then email it to yourself providing that you have your mail app 
set up.  Then copy and paste the post to your wall by creating a new post.

If the information is already on the web, double tap the "more" button to find 
the share button.  The share button may appear on the menu or tab on Safari.  
Double tap the share button and if you are using the Facebook app on your 
phone, it should appear in the list of options of which you can share.  

I hope this helps. 
Kathy 

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Subject: Iphone and face book

Is there a good book on posting and managing facebook for Dummies with 
accessible tips?  I have downloaded some but  for more advanced users.
I have some important information that I would like to post over face book 
myself..Everything I try to post isn't working unless I add the text from a new 
post.  Some informationwould be too long to type or use voice-over.  I am sure 
that I can learn a great amount by reading a simple book on this topic.  Thanks 
so much.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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RE: Iphone and face book

2020-03-25 Thread Kathy Kalaluhi

Hi 
I do not know of any beginner books for Facebook and IPhone but do have a 
couple of suggestions for your immediate problem.  

If you have to compose the post, I recommend that you compose it on your 
computer and then email it to yourself providing that you have your mail app 
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If the information is already on the web, double tap the "more" button to find 
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Double tap the share button and if you are using the Facebook app on your 
phone, it should appear in the list of options of which you can share.  

I hope this helps. 
Kathy 

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Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Iphone and face book

Is there a good book on posting and managing facebook for Dummies with 
accessible tips?  I have downloaded some but  for more advanced users.
I have some important information that I would like to post over face book 
myself..Everything I try to post isn't working unless I add the text from a new 
post.  Some informationwould be too long to type or use voice-over.  I am sure 
that I can learn a great amount by reading a simple book on this topic.  Thanks 
so much.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Gordon

I had this same issue when 13 first came out back in September. Some
people said there's was working fine and had no clue what I was talking
about. But others were having the same issue I was having. So yeah, this
is very strange.

On 3/25/2020 4:31 PM, Cris Ali wrote:
It is very strange! I have XR and Samantha pronounce yesterday with a
t, like yestertay.

Regards

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2020, at 4:55 PM, Gordon wrote:

I have the 10R and am not experiencing this. I upgraded yesterday and
have done several tests using several different voices. I use
Samantha compact every day, but I tried Tom, Alex and a couple of
others.

On 3/25/2020 3:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Richard,

That is very interesting that the same voice yields different
results on different iPhone models. I'll be curious what others report.

Alan

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
*On Behalf Of *Richard Turner

*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:33 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the
iOS 13.4 upgrade?

Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced,
the Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.

I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like
a t sound.

iPhone SE.

Richard

"There's a nap for that."

Sent from my iPhone

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“

On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly > wrote:

Hi List,

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going
on now but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with
the pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I
upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that
the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if
it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm
getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced
and Tom enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing
it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades in the App
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Go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio, and make sure this setting is 
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Good afternoon,

I hope everyone is doing well and staying healthy.
Could someone verify for me that iPhones can naturally go from hand
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iPhone and speaker

2020-03-25 Thread Jim Portillo

Good afternoon,

I hope everyone is doing well and staying healthy.
Could someone verify for me that iPhones can naturally go from hand
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can't I automatically put it down and it will automatically go to
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Cris Ali

It is very strange! I have XR and Samantha pronounce yesterday with a t, like 
yestertay.
Regards


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On Mar 25, 2020, at 4:55 PM, Gordon  wrote:



I have the 10R and am not experiencing this. I upgraded yesterday and have done 
several tests using several different voices. I use Samantha compact every day, 
but I tried Tom, Alex and a couple of others.

On 3/25/2020 3:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
Richard,

That is very interesting that the same voice yields different results on 
different iPhone models. I'll be curious what others report.

Alan

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upgrade?

Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.
iPhone SE.



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Hi List,

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but I'm 
curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of certain 
words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I 
notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it 
begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this same 
mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if 
others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades 
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hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

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Iphone and face book

2020-03-25 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe

Is there a good book on posting and managing facebook for Dummies
with accessible tips?  I have downloaded some but  for more advanced users.
I have some important information that I would like to post over face book
myself..Everything I try to post isn't working unless I add the text from a
new post.  Some informationwould be too long to type or use voice-over.  I
am sure that I can learn a great amount by reading a simple book on this
topic.  Thanks so much.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Gordon

I have the 10R and am not experiencing this. I upgraded yesterday and
have done several tests using several different voices. I use Samantha
compact every day, but I tried Tom, Alex and a couple of others.

On 3/25/2020 3:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Richard,

That is very interesting that the same voice yields different results
on different iPhone models. I'll be curious what others report.

Alan

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iOS 13.4 upgrade?

Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the
Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.

I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a
t sound.

iPhone SE.

Richard

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Hi List,

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on
now but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the
pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to
iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last
syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins
with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this
same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced
and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing
a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged
with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday
pronounced as yesterTay.

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

Richard,

 

That is very interesting that the same voice yields different results on 
different iPhone models. I'll be curious what others report.

 

Alan

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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upgrade?

 

Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
english Moira, or the Australian Karen. 

I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.

iPhone SE.

 





Richard 

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On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

 

Hi List,

 

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but I'm 
curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of certain 
words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I 
notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it 
begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this same 
mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if 
others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades 
in the App Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of 
hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.

 

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?


Richard:  In my case, Siri is mis-pronouncing it, not voice over.

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Christina

I also want to add in case it’s of importance. My iPhone is an Eleven.
Christina

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Christina  wrote:
> 
> I’m getting the same thing. It started around 11 PM last night while I was 
> using my iPhone, and I haven’t even updated. I double checked, and I’m on 
> 13.3.1 and I’m using Samantha compact. I rebooted my iPhone and the weird 
> pronunciation of the word  “yesterday” persists.
> 
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Christina

I’m getting the same thing. It started around 11 PM last night while I was 
using my iPhone, and I haven’t even updated. I double checked, and I’m on 
13.3.1 and I’m using Samantha compact. I rebooted my iPhone and the weird 
pronunciation of the word  “yesterday” persists.

Christina

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but 
> I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of 
> certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my 
> iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now 
> pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. 
> I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom 
> enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a 
> list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the 
> upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>  
> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

This is very odd that some people are experiencing it and others are not.

I don't have it with any voice.
I even had my wife listen and mine is saying it correctly.




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-Original Message-
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Chaffin
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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upgrade?

This is not a 13.4 bug.  I am running 13.3 and I just noticed it while doing 
app updates.  I am running Samantha enhanced.  Strange, I have not noticed it 
before, but it is definitely there.

Chris


> On Mar 25, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> And, I'm not experiencing it with any voice.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
> 
> Alex,
> You quoted the original sender as part of the reply thead.
> If you read through the messages, you'll find them listed in the message from 
> Alan Lemley.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Alex Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
> 
> Which voice are we talking about here?
> 
>> On 25 Mar 2020, at 18:44, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep using my AirPods I hear the extra t in yesterday sounds like yestertay. 
>> I'm using Tom enhanced. 
>> 
>> Rebecca Ilniski
>> email: rilni...@gmail.com
>> Twitter: applegirl1994
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep with Tom, it is very disconcerting.
>> 
 On 3/25/20, Julian  wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I 
>>> definitely hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
 
 wrote:
 
  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, 
 the Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
 I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like 
 a t sound.
 iPhone SE.
 
 
 
 Richard
 "There's a nap for that."
 Sent from my iPhone
 Check out my web site at: 
 https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.co
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>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi List,
>> 
>> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going 
>> on now but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with 
>> the pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded 
>> to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last 
>> syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins 
>> with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this 
>> same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom 
>> enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was 
>> reviewing a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they 
>> are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday 
>> pronounced as yesterTay.
>> 
>> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> --
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RE: Dilemma with Wake-up Alarm Song

I just tested it today and with iOS 13.4, the song I picked, played and no 
radar.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dilemma with Wake-up Alarm Song

I'm catching up on my mail and found this message. I experience this issue 
whenever I get a new phone, or occasionally after an iOS update.
It is annoying, but usually I have to set the song again and it stays that way. 
Not sure if it is related to the issue or not, but if after you update the 
phone, if you then close all apps, shut the phone down, and start it up fresh, 
does the issue still occur? Though the radar does get me up, I would much 
rather hear my own songs verses that annoying radar.

Hang in there and be well,
Wayne

On 3/10/20, Esther  wrote:
> wow! It's happening to you too? I am going to call Apple accessibility 
> as well. Thanks for letting me know. I'm glad I'm not the only one! Ha ha!
> Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+
>
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:33 AM, Richard Turner 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Well, I just did an experiment and you are right.
>> I set a new alarm, picked a song from my iPhone library.
>> And, instead of playing the song, it played the default irritating 
>> sound file.
>> I'll write Apple Accessibility and also go to the apple.com/feedback 
>> site and enter a comment.
>> I don't know if this is a change with iOS 13, or what.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that."
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Check out my web site at: 
>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com;
>> amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce3468d0959ec47de2af008d7d0f212a5%7C84df9e7fe9f6
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>> %2FlWFaBQGFwQUr8HRT9ND4FEgDruei807x0%3Dreserved=0
>> “
>>
>>
 On Mar 9, 2020, at 7:46 PM, Esther  wrote:

>>> 
>>>
>>> Hi, Everyone,
>>>
>>> When I set up an alarm to awaken me in the morning, I usually like 
>>> to hear a particular song I have chosen from my music library and I 
>>> save that particular alarm time.  I've never had difficulty with the 
>>> song I have chosen until recently.  When I set the alarm at night, 
>>> it shows the particular song I have chosen, yet when my alarm sounds 
>>> in the morning, it plays the default tone, which is Radar, rather 
>>> than the song I have chosen.  I've tried, to no avail, to delete the 
>>> alarm and set it up again and it always shows the song, but when the 
>>> alarm sounds, it still plays the default Radar sound.  I don't know what I 
>>> am doing wrong.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Esther Levegnale
>>>
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Chris Chaffin

This is not a 13.4 bug.  I am running 13.3 and I just noticed it while doing 
app updates.  I am running Samantha enhanced.  Strange, I have not noticed it 
before, but it is definitely there.

Chris


> On Mar 25, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> And, I'm not experiencing it with any voice.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
> 
> Alex,
> You quoted the original sender as part of the reply thead.
> If you read through the messages, you'll find them listed in the message from 
> Alan Lemley.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
> 
> Which voice are we talking about here?
> 
>> On 25 Mar 2020, at 18:44, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep using my AirPods I hear the extra t in yesterday sounds like yestertay. 
>> I'm using Tom enhanced. 
>> 
>> Rebecca Ilniski
>> email: rilni...@gmail.com
>> Twitter: applegirl1994
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep with Tom, it is very disconcerting.
>> 
 On 3/25/20, Julian  wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I 
>>> definitely hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
 
 wrote:
 
  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, 
 the Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
 I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like 
 a t sound.
 iPhone SE.
 
 
 
 Richard
 "There's a nap for that."
 Sent from my iPhone
 Check out my web site at: 
 https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com
 data=02%7C01%7C%7C40c1fd1469e340cb13d108d7d0f05fae%7C84df9e7fe9
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 wf5rGWOqRqPgP8iq4VBq6UBE2YoqgJ9bRuy5k%3Dreserved=0
 “
 
 
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi List,
>> 
>> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on 
>> now but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the 
>> pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to 
>> iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last 
>> syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins 
>> with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this 
>> same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced 
>> and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing 
>> a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged 
>> with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as 
>> yesterTay.
>> 
>> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> --
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Re: Dilemma with Wake-up Alarm Song

2020-03-25 Thread Wayne Merritt

I'm catching up on my mail and found this message. I experience this
issue whenever I get a new phone, or occasionally after an iOS update.
It is annoying, but usually I have to set the song again and it stays
that way. Not sure if it is related to the issue or not, but if after
you update the phone, if you then close all apps, shut the phone down,
and start it up fresh, does the issue still occur? Though the radar
does get me up, I would much rather hear my own songs verses that
annoying radar.

Hang in there and be well,
Wayne

On 3/10/20, Esther  wrote:
> wow! It's happening to you too? I am going to call Apple accessibility as
> well. Thanks for letting me know. I'm glad I'm not the only one! Ha ha!
> Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+
>
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:33 AM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Well, I just did an experiment and you are right.
>> I set a new alarm, picked a song from my iPhone library.
>> And, instead of playing the song, it played the default irritating sound
>> file.
>> I'll write Apple Accessibility and also go to the apple.com/feedback site
>> and enter a comment.
>> I don't know if this is a change with iOS 13, or what.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that."
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> “
>>
>>
 On Mar 9, 2020, at 7:46 PM, Esther  wrote:

>>> 
>>>
>>> Hi, Everyone,
>>>
>>> When I set up an alarm to awaken me in the morning, I usually like to
>>> hear a particular song I have chosen from my music library and I save
>>> that particular alarm time.  I've never had difficulty with the song I
>>> have chosen until recently.  When I set the alarm at night, it shows the
>>> particular song I have chosen, yet when my alarm sounds in the morning,
>>> it plays the default tone, which is Radar, rather than the song I have
>>> chosen.  I've tried, to no avail, to delete the alarm and set it up again
>>> and it always shows the song, but when the alarm sounds, it still plays
>>> the default Radar sound.  I don't know what I am doing wrong.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Esther Levegnale
>>>
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+
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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

Alex,
You quoted the original sender as part of the reply thead.
If you read through the messages, you'll find them listed in the message from 
Alan Lemley.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

Which voice are we talking about here?

> On 25 Mar 2020, at 18:44, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
> 
> Yep using my AirPods I hear the extra t in yesterday sounds like yestertay. 
> I'm using Tom enhanced. 
> 
> Rebecca Ilniski
> email: rilni...@gmail.com
> Twitter: applegirl1994
> 
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
> 
> Yep with Tom, it is very disconcerting.
> 
>> On 3/25/20, Julian  wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I 
>> definitely hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, 
>>> the Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
>>> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like 
>>> a t sound.
>>> iPhone SE.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "There's a nap for that."
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Check out my web site at: 
>>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com
>>> data=02%7C01%7C%7C40c1fd1469e340cb13d108d7d0f05fae%7C84df9e7fe9
>>> f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637207603117946073sdata=WtRDXP
>>> wf5rGWOqRqPgP8iq4VBq6UBE2YoqgJ9bRuy5k%3Dreserved=0
>>> “
>>> 
>>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on 
> now but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the 
> pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to 
> iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last 
> syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins 
> with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this 
> same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced 
> and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing 
> a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged 
> with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as 
> yesterTay.
> 
> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V 
> iPhone list.
> 
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RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

And, I'm not experiencing it with any voice.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

Alex,
You quoted the original sender as part of the reply thead.
If you read through the messages, you'll find them listed in the message from 
Alan Lemley.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

Which voice are we talking about here?

> On 25 Mar 2020, at 18:44, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
> 
> Yep using my AirPods I hear the extra t in yesterday sounds like yestertay. 
> I'm using Tom enhanced. 
> 
> Rebecca Ilniski
> email: rilni...@gmail.com
> Twitter: applegirl1994
> 
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
> 
> Yep with Tom, it is very disconcerting.
> 
>> On 3/25/20, Julian  wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I 
>> definitely hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, 
>>> the Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
>>> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like 
>>> a t sound.
>>> iPhone SE.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
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>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on 
> now but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the 
> pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to 
> iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last 
> syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins 
> with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this 
> same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced 
> and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing 
> a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged 
> with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as 
> yesterTay.
> 
> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
> 
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Alex Stone

Which voice are we talking about here?

> On 25 Mar 2020, at 18:44, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
> 
> Yep using my AirPods I hear the extra t in yesterday sounds like yestertay. 
> I'm using Tom enhanced. 
> 
> Rebecca Ilniski
> email: rilni...@gmail.com
> Twitter: applegirl1994
> 
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
> 
> Yep with Tom, it is very disconcerting.
> 
>> On 3/25/20, Julian  wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I definitely
>> hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the
>>> Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
>>> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t
>>> sound.
>>> iPhone SE.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "There's a nap for that."
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>>> “
>>> 
>>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now
> but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the
> pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4
> yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word
> yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of
> with the letter d. I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both
> Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if others are also
> experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades in the App
> Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing
> yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
> 
> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
> 
> Alan Lemly
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Maria Reyes

I don't experience that with Alex, Samantha enhanced or Ava enhanced.

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> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:58 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Sometime it depens if you use iPhone or iPad... Could be different for same 
> voice.
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 25 mars 2020 à 14:32, Richard Turner  a 
>> écrit :
>> 
>> Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
>> english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
>> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t 
>> sound.
>> iPhone SE.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that." 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> “
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>>  
>>> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but 
>>> I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of 
>>> certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my 
>>> iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now 
>>> pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. 
>>> I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom 
>>> enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing 
>>> a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the 
>>> upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>>>  
>>> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>>>  
>>> Alan Lemly
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread l . d . ethier23

Sometime it depens if you use iPhone or iPad... Could be different for same 
voice.

Lyne

> Le 25 mars 2020 à 14:32, Richard Turner  a écrit 
> :
> 
> Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
> english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.
> iPhone SE.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." 
> Sent from my iPhone
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> “
> 
> 
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi List,
>>  
>> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but 
>> I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of 
>> certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my 
>> iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now 
>> pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. 
>> I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom 
>> enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing 
>> a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the 
>> upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>>  
>> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
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RE: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds please

Your subject line said, wired.
The challenge will be to find a wired headset that has the lightning plug.
Or, do you have the lightning to 3.5 MM adapter?

Good luck in finding a good quality headset for $50.

I’m sure there are some out there.




Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of andrew
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds please

Hello all,
I’ve been searching for what’s in subject line. I had a nice Harman Kardan 
headset but cannot find it anywhere. Its all blue tooth. I don’t want to pay 
more than $50 if possible
Thanks
drew
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Re: IOS13.4’Ms Mail app interface changed

2020-03-25 Thread l . d . ethier23

Really disapointed too because it's the same with french canadian voices and I 
sent a video to Apple to be sure they understand well the problem, but nothing!

Lyne

> Le 25 mars 2020 à 14:34, Sieghard Weitzel  a écrit :
> 
> I don’t think Apple can use COVID-19 as an excuse for not fixing certain bugs 
> which have been around since last September.
> For example, I use the SIRI Female voice for Voiceover and it’s been saying 
> “TickTight” instead of “Dictate” since iOS 13 came out, when I emailed Apple 
> Accessibility about it I received a reply saying they were aware of the 
> issue, were working on it but had no time when it would be fixed. I really am 
> not sure why something like this where Apple has full control over the 
> synthesizer is so difficult to fix.
> This is also just one example and the worst part is that now with iOS 13.4 if 
> you use the SIRI Female and to some degree also the Male voice, it pronounces 
> “Yesterday” as “Yestertay”, as in “day” with a “t” sound.
> Of course these are just minor inconveniences, but another thing is for sure, 
> given Apple’s level of technology I am sure a lot of their people are 
> perfectly capable of working remotely and I wouldn’t be surprised if they 
> hadn’t already done so before, developing software and collaborating with 
> potentially dozens and hundreds of other developers and programmers is 
> probably already done remotely to a large degree.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anne 
> West
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS13.4’Ms Mail app interface changed
>  
> We must realize that Apple, in California, is most likely closed down totally 
> or operating on a minimal employee staff. I agree that bugs should be fixed 
> before an update is released but I have a feeling some things will slip 
> through the cracks during the Pandemic. We all need to give Apple some slack 
> as we do other businesses. Yes, a release delay would be understandable.
>  
> Anne
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:50
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS13.4’Ms Mail app interface changed
>  
> Pointing out bugs to apple in Betas seems to do nothing.  I called about one 
> that was in the public version they confirmed it and called and verified it 
> and nothing.  iOS 13 is buggy I hope this isn’t the new standard of Apple.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS13.4’Ms Mail app interface changed
>  
> One more thing, threading now does something very odd.
> I replied to Dacia's message, and then deleted the thread.
> When my reply came through, it showed Dacia's name and that it was replied, 
> but when I opened it, it was just my message replying to hers.
> So the labeling of the message was all wrong.
> Turning off threading again after sending this message.
> I had pointed this issue out during the beta cycle.
>  
> 
>  
> 
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> "There's a nap for that." 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>  
>  
> 
> On Mar 24, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Well, it isn't that different to me.
> They brought back a delete button at the bottom left, a Move button next to 
> delete, then the More Actions button, and lastly the Compose button.
> And, that the two-finger swipe up doesn't do anything when in an email.
> While, anywhere else it reads from the top.
> Prior to this, in an email, it would read the body of the email starting at 
> the beginning.
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." 
> Sent from my iPhone
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> “
>  
>  
> 
> On Mar 24, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Dacia Cole  wrote:
> 
> What is so different about the message interface with this update? I
> haven't downloaded it yet but am curious.
> Dacia
> 
> 
> On 3/24/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Yes, the two finger swipe up was noted during the beta cycle, but obviously
> did not get fixed.
> Everyone who misses that very basic feature should write
> accessibil...@apple.com
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
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> So updated my SE to iOS13.4, and while I was looking

Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Rebecca Ilniski

Yep using my AirPods I hear the extra t in yesterday sounds like yestertay. I'm 
using Tom enhanced. 

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On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:

Yep with Tom, it is very disconcerting.

> On 3/25/20, Julian  wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I definitely
> hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the
>> Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
>> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t
>> sound.
>> iPhone SE.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that."
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> “
>> 
>> 
 On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>> 
>>> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now
>>> but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the
>>> pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4
>>> yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word
>>> yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of
>>> with the letter d. I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both
>>> Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if others are also
>>> experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades in the App
>>> Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing
>>> yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>>> 
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Yolanda Thompson

Yep with Tom, it is very disconcerting.

On 3/25/20, Julian  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I definitely
> hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the
>> Irish english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
>> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t
>> sound.
>> iPhone SE.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that."
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> “
>>
>>
 On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>>
>>> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now
>>> but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the
>>> pronunciation of certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4
>>> yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word
>>> yesterday is now pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of
>>> with the letter d. I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both
>>> Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if others are also
>>> experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades in the App
>>> Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of hearing
>>> yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>>>
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Julian

Hello all,

While I am not experiencing this issue with Samantha and hands, I definitely 
hear it when I switch over to the American female Siri voice.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
> english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
> I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.
> iPhone SE.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." 
> Sent from my iPhone
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> “
> 
> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi List,
>>  
>> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but 
>> I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of 
>> certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my 
>> iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now 
>> pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. 
>> I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom 
>> enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing 
>> a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the 
>> upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>>  
>> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
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Recommendations of Wired headset for I Phone XR no earbuds please

2020-03-25 Thread andrew

Hello all,

I've been searching for what's in subject line. I had a nice Harman Kardan
headset but cannot find it anywhere. Its all blue tooth. I don't want to pay
more than $50 if possible

Thanks

drew

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RE: IOS13.4’Ms Mail app interface changed

2020-03-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

I don’t think Apple can use COVID-19 as an excuse for not fixing certain bugs 
which have been around since last September.
For example, I use the SIRI Female voice for Voiceover and it’s been saying 
“TickTight” instead of “Dictate” since iOS 13 came out, when I emailed Apple 
Accessibility about it I received a reply saying they were aware of the issue, 
were working on it but had no time when it would be fixed. I really am not sure 
why something like this where Apple has full control over the synthesizer is so 
difficult to fix.
This is also just one example and the worst part is that now with iOS 13.4 if 
you use the SIRI Female and to some degree also the Male voice, it pronounces 
“Yesterday” as “Yestertay”, as in “day” with a “t” sound.
Of course these are just minor inconveniences, but another thing is for sure, 
given Apple’s level of technology I am sure a lot of their people are perfectly 
capable of working remotely and I wouldn’t be surprised if they hadn’t already 
done so before, developing software and collaborating with potentially dozens 
and hundreds of other developers and programmers is probably already done 
remotely to a large degree.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anne West
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS13.4’Ms Mail app interface changed

We must realize that Apple, in California, is most likely closed down totally 
or operating on a minimal employee staff. I agree that bugs should be fixed 
before an update is released but I have a feeling some things will slip through 
the cracks during the Pandemic. We all need to give Apple some slack as we do 
other businesses. Yes, a release delay would be understandable.

Anne

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:50
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS13.4’Ms Mail app interface changed

Pointing out bugs to apple in Betas seems to do nothing.  I called about one 
that was in the public version they confirmed it and called and verified it and 
nothing.  iOS 13 is buggy I hope this isn’t the new standard of Apple.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS13.4’Ms Mail app interface changed

One more thing, threading now does something very odd.
I replied to Dacia's message, and then deleted the thread.
When my reply came through, it showed Dacia's name and that it was replied, but 
when I opened it, it was just my message replying to hers.
So the labeling of the message was all wrong.
Turning off threading again after sending this message.
I had pointed this issue out during the beta cycle.


Richard
"There's a nap for that."
Sent from my iPhone
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On Mar 24, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Well, it isn't that different to me.
They brought back a delete button at the bottom left, a Move button next to 
delete, then the More Actions button, and lastly the Compose button.
And, that the two-finger swipe up doesn't do anything when in an email.
While, anywhere else it reads from the top.
Prior to this, in an email, it would read the body of the email starting at the 
beginning.


Richard
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Sent from my iPhone
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On Mar 24, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Dacia Cole 
mailto:dacia.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What is so different about the message interface with this update? I
haven't downloaded it yet but am curious.
Dacia


On 3/24/20, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Yes, the two finger swipe up was noted during the beta cycle, but obviously
did not get fixed.
Everyone who misses that very basic feature should write
accessibil...@apple.com




Richard
"There's a nap for that."
Sent from my iPhone
Check out my web site at:

Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

Well, I am not hearing that with Tom Enhanced, Samantha enhanced, the Irish 
english Moira, or the Australian Karen.
I tried at several reading speeds, and I did not hear anything like a t sound.
iPhone SE.



Richard
"There's a nap for that."
Sent from my iPhone
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“


On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Hi List,

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but I'm 
curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of certain 
words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 8 and I 
notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced as if it 
begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting this same 
mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am curious if 
others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent app upgrades 
in the App Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I got tired of 
hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

Alan Lemly

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-25 Thread Lois Butterfield

Deffinitely the same here. Sounds pretty silly.

Take care,
Lois

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but 
> I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of 
> certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my 
> iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now 
> pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. 
> I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom 
> enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a 
> list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the 
> upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>  
> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>  
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How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

Hi List,

 

I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but
I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of
certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my
iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now
pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d.
I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom
enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing
a list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the
upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.

 

Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: IOS13.4’Ms Mail app interface changed

2020-03-25 Thread Anne West

We must realize that Apple, in California, is most likely closed down totally 
or operating on a minimal employee staff. I agree that bugs should be fixed 
before an update is released but I have a feeling some things will slip through 
the cracks during the Pandemic. We all need to give Apple some slack as we do 
other businesses. Yes, a release delay would be understandable.

 

Anne

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:50
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS13.4’Ms Mail app interface changed

 

Pointing out bugs to apple in Betas seems to do nothing.  I called about one 
that was in the public version they confirmed it and called and verified it and 
nothing.  iOS 13 is buggy I hope this isn’t the new standard of Apple.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: IOS13.4’Ms Mail app interface changed

 

One more thing, threading now does something very odd. 

I replied to Dacia's message, and then deleted the thread.

When my reply came through, it showed Dacia's name and that it was replied, but 
when I opened it, it was just my message replying to hers.

So the labeling of the message was all wrong.

Turning off threading again after sending this message.

I had pointed this issue out during the beta cycle.

 

 

Richard 

"There's a nap for that." 

Sent from my iPhone

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 

 

“

 

 

On Mar 24, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 Well, it isn't that different to me. 

They brought back a delete button at the bottom left, a Move button next to 
delete, then the More Actions button, and lastly the Compose button.

And, that the two-finger swipe up doesn't do anything when in an email.

While, anywhere else it reads from the top.

Prior to this, in an email, it would read the body of the email starting at the 
beginning.

 

 

Richard 

"There's a nap for that." 

Sent from my iPhone

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 

 

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On Mar 24, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Dacia Cole mailto:dacia.l...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What is so different about the message interface with this update? I
haven't downloaded it yet but am curious.
Dacia


On 3/24/20, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Yes, the two finger swipe up was noted during the beta cycle, but obviously

did not get fixed.

Everyone who misses that very basic feature should write

accessibil...@apple.com  

 

 

 

 

Richard

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On Mar 24, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Gerardo Corripio mailto:gera1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

So updated my SE to iOS13.4, and while I was looking forward to the new

Mail app interface while in a message, it feels so weird! Also when reading

the EMail, the two-finger swipe up doesn’t seem to work anymore. I’m having

to put my finger where the subject of the Mail is on the mid-top left part

of the screen, and swipe down with two fingers from there to read it.

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

 

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Re: changing speed of podcast playback

2020-03-25 Thread 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone

when i selected now playing, i still couldn’t find it, can you say exactly 
where it is and how to change speed of podcasts with voice over.

thanks

From: Keith Bierman 
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: changing speed of podcast playback

  is there a way to speed up podcast playback on the native podcast app? if so, 
how do you do it?

In the visual GUI, the iOS podcast app shows the current playback speed in the 
lower left corner when you have the current podcast playing and "now playing" 
mode/display is in effect. By pressing on the speed icon you toggle it ... it 
cycles from 1x to 1 1/2x  2x  1/2x 1x 
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RE: bug - heading is called edit textfield

For me, it happens very seldom, but here is what the AppleVis team mentions on 
new bugs in iOS 13.4
VoiceOver will on occasions wrongly indicate that some blocks of text are 
editable text fields, resulting in VoiceOver speaking feedback such as “text 
field, editing“, “double tap to edit” or “character mode” before speaking the 
text. Typically, this behavior only occurs on the first paragraph when 
navigating by swiping, but may occur more frequently if navigating by touch. 
This is most prevalent in Safari, but has also been encountered in several 
other apps. Our experience suggests that apps pulling the text from the web are 
most likely to exhibit this behaviour - such as RSS readers and news apps. This 
behavior is particularly intrusive if you have VoiceOver hints enabled, so you 
may want to disable this option until this issue has been resolved.

You can read their entire blog post on iOS 13.4 here:
https://www.applevis.com/blog/update-now-available-apple-release-ios-134-and-ipados-134-march-24-several-new-features-mixed



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: bug - heading is called edit textfield

Hi folks

Excuse my language is native dutch so I don’t know how it is pronounced in  
English in the right definition.
A friend of mine mentions the following: in safari when encountering a header 
the iphone says text editor header. Can this behaviour be confirmed?
Regards
Davy
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bug - heading is called edit textfield

2020-03-25 Thread Davy Cuppens

Hi folks 

Excuse my language is native dutch so I don’t know how it is pronounced in  
English in the right definition.
A friend of mine mentions the following: in safari when encountering a header 
the iphone says text editor header. Can this behaviour be confirmed?
Regards
Davy 

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