If Apple will continue as is on naking its products accessible is exactly wasI
was asking myself awhile ago, especially with the talk these past few days on
here about the App store breaking Voiceover accessible, as I asked myself what
could I expect on ny next IPhone in Febuary of 2014 when
Theresa,
I'm not sure what you mean by the capitalist economy since all economies are
capitalist in nature. In fact I'd argue that without capitalism Apple would not
have any incentive to consider accessibility. I'm not sure where charities fit
into this conversation either. The fact is APple
Hello all speaking of the sighted I tell sighted iPhone or other iDevice
users about VoiceOver and they are just amazed, some to the extent that
they are delighted in what Apple has done even though they may never
have met a disabled person in their lives. So I am spreading the word
for sure.
Same senario here in a developing country when I've showed the ILhone to
family: they're amazed I know more than they! I think that by exanple is ghe
way to go in creating awareness of Aple's commitnent on integrating us the
blind into something as bassic as the Digital Age. It sure feels
Hi, Scott,
My response was regarding Joanne's sentiment that more should be done for blind
people because we need it. Well, not all economies are Capitalist, but that's a
side issue. In any case, my point was that I applaud Apple's commitment, but I
don't see them spending a lot of money on
Right, I agree with everything here. I'm just wondering though if Apple
didn't realize that creating an accessible mobile platform wasn't going
to give them an edge or open up new opportunities in government, small
business and educational facilities. I mean if Android had made this
paradigm shift
Microsoft, Palm, and Apple were all trying to find the holy grail of
touch-screen access. Apple's first attempt, the Newton, was a spectacular
failure. Palm took an early lead, then Microsoft moved ahead and Palm folded.
Then, Apple found their first major success with the iPod with click
I agree with David here, but I also wonder how much of Apple's sales are
effected by their commitment to accessibility. For example, how many
government sales or small business sales or educational sales wouldn't
have even been possible if they weren't able to demonstrate that they
had an
I agree with everything you said. I never meant to imply that any one
was doing as much as Apple. I just wanted to point out that their are
other companies who do have a commitment to accessibility.
Furthermore, I think part of Apple's justification was related to
governmental regulations (not
You are correct for the Mac. For iOS devices, however, this is not the case.
Most of the professional proofs and studies clearly demonstrated that blind
peepul, as a whole, did not have the necessary spatial awareness, and
attempting to memorise, without good tactile clues, would be almost
Hi David,
If that is the case of what you said, we poor blind people, why
Apple should care on putting voiceover in their touch screen products?
Not only that, Apple also advertise that their products are friendly
to people with access needs.
Just a thought
Regards
Joanne
On 18/09/2012, David
Hello,
Please forgive my cynicism in my final statement of those poor blind people. I
am preparing my proposal for my doctoral research. My proposed topic is how are
blind people able to adapt to touch screen devices, so I am currently reading
all the academic and professional research I can
The issue of blind folk and touch screens is quite fascinating. I've always had
trouble with spatial orientation, and if it weren't for the constant audible
feedback, I'd get losT on a Magic Trackpad for the Mac or the screen on my
IPOD. That said, I am really beginning to appreciate the
How do you know Apple wouldn't have lost any educational or governmental
contracts if they hadn't made IOS accessible? I recall a situation where
the DoJ blocked the use of Kindles (at least I think it was Kindles) to
distribute text books as ebooks. Plus, more and more businesses are
using and
My memory may be failing me, but I seem to recall, at a time--perhaps
2004--something like RockBox was software to make the Ipod Classic accessible
with speech, that I heard Apple was developing what became known as VoiceOver
primarily as a way for sighted folks to navigate their iPod's while
Hello,
First, don't confuse timelines. Original Android accessibility was only with
physical buttons and keyboards, and this was after VO was released on the
iPhone.
Before VO was released on the iPhone, it was known that accessibility was not
very possible on a touch-screen. In other words,
Hello,
My understanding is that The initial spoken track information which was added
to songs (if requested) was set up primarily for blind people. This occurred a
few years after Apple brought accessibility inhouse, and the iPods did not have
the processing power for a full screen reader as
Joanne,
Apple stresses accessibility as a concept which means not just
accessibility for the blind or visually impaired, but also for those with
hearing impairments, physical impairments and even those with mental and
learning disabilities. Throw all of those numbers in a pot and they are not
so
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