RE: Kindle on ipad issue

[Richard Turner]

Hi Fanus,

It appears there is only one way to email them and that is to find the contact 
us at the Amazon Help site and filling out a form.

Here is an article about that:

https://robots.net/tech/how-to-email-amazon-customer-service/

 

I hope it helps.  I would also suggest going to your Amazon Account and 
returning the book and maybe previous ones if it hasn’t been too long.  I 
forget how long you have to return an item.

 

Best of luck,

Richard, USA

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2024 7:50 AM
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Subject: Re: Kindle on ipad issue

 

Hello Richard

I live in South Africa, so it is very expensive to phone Amazon from this side. 
The interesting thing is that I tried the book on my Samsung phone and on a 
Chromebook and both have the same problem, so 3 different screen readers react 
the same. I also read a page with Seeing AI on my cell phone by pointing it to 
the iPad screen and Seeing AI had no problem to read correctly. The other 
interesting point is that when I read character by character I find that the 
letters c and e cause the problem.

 Regards

Fanus

 

 

On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 4:33 PM Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

I am not finding an email for Amazon Accessibiblity. Perhaps they have a phone 
number. Remind me where you live? 

 

 

Richard, USA

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

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On Mar 3, 2024, at 3:42 AM, Fanus Buys mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello Richard

I usually use the Tessa South African English voice but I tried UK Daniel and 
US Samantha but the result is the same. I also changed to the font you 
suggested and I switched "detect language" on. The interesting fact is that my 
wife reads the text on the screen and she says everything looks fine. This is 
about the forth Kindle book where I encounter this. I have many other books 
which read correctly. I wonder if Kindle has an accessibility email address 
where I can report the issue?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 12:09 AM Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

I just tried a couple books from my Kindle library on my iPad Mini 6 and had no 
trouble.

 

1.  which voice are you using?

2.  is that your default voice?

3.  If it is, do you have detect language on under settings, VoiceOver, speech?

4.  Which font did you change to?

I had some trouble reading with the default font, so I changed it to Open 
Dyslexic and it reads fine.

The font makes no difference to me since I am totally blind, but apparently it 
made a difference to the app..

 

 

Richard, USA

"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."

-- Wolfgang Von Goethe 

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

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JAWS version 2024.2312.99

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Fanus Buys
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 3:53 AM
To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Kindle on ipad issue

 

Hello list

I purchased a kindle book and I made sure that the product details state that 
text to speech and screen readers are enabled but the book does not play 
correctly on my iPad. The moment I swipe down with two fingers for continuous 
reading it sounds if there are no spaces between words and if there are strange 
sounds, like a different language. I changed the font and size of text but the 
problem continues. Has anyone encountered this or should I just return the 
book. The problem is that it is not the first time that I encounter this 
problem and it is just strange that the kindle app can not read books meant for 
kindle.

Regards

Fanus

 

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Re: Kindle on ipad issue

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard
I live in South Africa, so it is very expensive to phone Amazon from this
side. The interesting thing is that I tried the book on my Samsung phone
and on a Chromebook and both have the same problem, so 3 different screen
readers react the same. I also read a page with Seeing AI on my cell phone
by pointing it to the iPad screen and Seeing AI had no problem to read
correctly. The other interesting point is that when I read character by
character I find that the letters c and e cause the problem.
 Regards
Fanus


On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 4:33 PM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> I am not finding an email for Amazon Accessibiblity. Perhaps they have a
> phone number. Remind me where you live?
>
>
> Richard, USA
>
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God
> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to
> get it.”
>
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>
>
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2024, at 3:42 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>
> 
> Hello Richard
> I usually use the Tessa South African English voice but I tried UK Daniel
> and US Samantha but the result is the same. I also changed to the font you
> suggested and I switched "detect language" on. The interesting fact is that
> my wife reads the text on the screen and she says everything looks fine.
> This is about the forth Kindle book where I encounter this. I have many
> other books which read correctly. I wonder if Kindle has an accessibility
> email address where I can report the issue?
> Regards
> Fanus
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 12:09 AM Richard Turner <
> richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I just tried a couple books from my Kindle library on my iPad Mini 6 and
>> had no trouble.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.  which voice are you using?
>>
>> 2.  is that your default voice?
>>
>> 3.  If it is, do you have detect language on under settings, VoiceOver,
>> speech?
>>
>> 4.  Which font did you change to?
>>
>> I had some trouble reading with the default font, so I changed it to Open
>> Dyslexic and it reads fine.
>>
>> The font makes no difference to me since I am totally blind, but
>> apparently it made a difference to the app..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA
>>
>> "At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
>>
>> -- Wolfgang Von Goethe
>>
>>
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155)
>>
>> JAWS version 2024.2312.99
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>> Of *Fanus Buys
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 2, 2024 3:53 AM
>> *To:* viphone 
>> *Subject:* Kindle on ipad issue
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello list
>>
>> I purchased a kindle book and I made sure that the product details state
>> that text to speech and screen readers are enabled but the book does not
>> play correctly on my iPad. The moment I swipe down with two fingers for
>> continuous reading it sounds if there are no spaces between words and if
>> there are strange sounds, like a different language. I changed the font and
>> size of text but the problem continues. Has anyone encountered this or
>> should I just return the book. The problem is that it is not the first time
>> that I encounter this problem and it is just strange that the kindle app
>> can not read books meant for kindle.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Fanus
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Kindle on ipad issue

[Richard Turner]

I am not finding an email for Amazon Accessibiblity. Perhaps they have a phone number. Remind me where you live? Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Mar 3, 2024, at 3:42 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:Hello RichardI usually use the Tessa South African English voice but I tried UK Daniel and US Samantha but the result is the same. I also changed to the font you suggested and I switched "detect language" on. The interesting fact is that my wife reads the text on the screen and she says everything looks fine. This is about the forth Kindle book where I encounter this. I have many other books which read correctly. I wonder if Kindle has an accessibility email address where I can report the issue?RegardsFanusOn Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 12:09 AM Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote:I just tried a couple books from my Kindle library on my iPad Mini 6 and had no trouble. 1.  which voice are you using?2.  is that your default voice?3.  If it is, do you have detect language on under settings, VoiceOver, speech?4.  Which font did you change to?I had some trouble reading with the default font, so I changed it to Open Dyslexic and it reads fine.The font makes no difference to me since I am totally blind, but apparently it made a difference to the app..  Richard, USA"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you." -- Wolfgang Von Goethe  My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2312.99 From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Fanus BuysSent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 3:53 AMTo: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>Subject: Kindle on ipad issue Hello listI purchased a kindle book and I made sure that the product details state that text to speech and screen readers are enabled but the book does not play correctly on my iPad. The moment I swipe down with two fingers for continuous reading it sounds if there are no spaces between words and if there are strange sounds, like a different language. I changed the font and size of text but the problem continues. Has anyone encountered this or should I just return the book. The problem is that it is not the first time that I encounter this problem and it is just strange that the kindle app can not read books meant for kindle.RegardsFanus -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CA%2B_g1Kp0DW2itF-L1Bya4U8FjcWJBVhzUvVhQ%3DKu31-X%3DDvb_w%40mail.gmail.com.



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Re: Kindle on ipad issue

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard
I usually use the Tessa South African English voice but I tried UK Daniel
and US Samantha but the result is the same. I also changed to the font you
suggested and I switched "detect language" on. The interesting fact is that
my wife reads the text on the screen and she says everything looks fine.
This is about the forth Kindle book where I encounter this. I have many
other books which read correctly. I wonder if Kindle has an accessibility
email address where I can report the issue?
Regards
Fanus


On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 12:09 AM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> I just tried a couple books from my Kindle library on my iPad Mini 6 and
> had no trouble.
>
>
>
> 1.  which voice are you using?
>
> 2.  is that your default voice?
>
> 3.  If it is, do you have detect language on under settings, VoiceOver,
> speech?
>
> 4.  Which font did you change to?
>
> I had some trouble reading with the default font, so I changed it to Open
> Dyslexic and it reads fine.
>
> The font makes no difference to me since I am totally blind, but
> apparently it made a difference to the app..
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
>
> "At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
>
> -- Wolfgang Von Goethe
>
>
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>
>
>
> Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155)
>
> JAWS version 2024.2312.99
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Fanus Buys
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 2, 2024 3:53 AM
> *To:* viphone 
> *Subject:* Kindle on ipad issue
>
>
>
> Hello list
>
> I purchased a kindle book and I made sure that the product details state
> that text to speech and screen readers are enabled but the book does not
> play correctly on my iPad. The moment I swipe down with two fingers for
> continuous reading it sounds if there are no spaces between words and if
> there are strange sounds, like a different language. I changed the font and
> size of text but the problem continues. Has anyone encountered this or
> should I just return the book. The problem is that it is not the first time
> that I encounter this problem and it is just strange that the kindle app
> can not read books meant for kindle.
>
> Regards
>
> Fanus
>
>
>
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RE: Kindle on ipad issue

[Richard Turner]

I just tried a couple books from my Kindle library on my iPad Mini 6 and had no 
trouble.

 

1.  which voice are you using?

2.  is that your default voice?

3.  If it is, do you have detect language on under settings, VoiceOver, speech?

4.  Which font did you change to?

I had some trouble reading with the default font, so I changed it to Open 
Dyslexic and it reads fine.

The font makes no difference to me since I am totally blind, but apparently it 
made a difference to the app..

 

 

Richard, USA

"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."

-- Wolfgang Von Goethe 

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) 

JAWS version 2024.2312.99

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 3:53 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Kindle on ipad issue

 

Hello list

I purchased a kindle book and I made sure that the product details state that 
text to speech and screen readers are enabled but the book does not play 
correctly on my iPad. The moment I swipe down with two fingers for continuous 
reading it sounds if there are no spaces between words and if there are strange 
sounds, like a different language. I changed the font and size of text but the 
problem continues. Has anyone encountered this or should I just return the 
book. The problem is that it is not the first time that I encounter this 
problem and it is just strange that the kindle app can not read books meant for 
kindle.

Regards

Fanus

 

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Kindle on ipad issue

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
I purchased a kindle book and I made sure that the product details state
that text to speech and screen readers are enabled but the book does not
play correctly on my iPad. The moment I swipe down with two fingers for
continuous reading it sounds if there are no spaces between words and if
there are strange sounds, like a different language. I changed the font and
size of text but the problem continues. Has anyone encountered this or
should I just return the book. The problem is that it is not the first time
that I encounter this problem and it is just strange that the kindle app
can not read books meant for kindle.
Regards
Fanus

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Friday, January 26, 2024

Apple's Shazam can now identify songs playing inside other iPhone and iPad apps 
even while you're wearing headphones

Apple's Shazam is now better than ever.
 
Shazam has long been the go-to app for people who want to know what song 
they're listening to but now it's better than ever thanks to a new version 17.3 
update.

The new update, which is now available for download via the App Store, adds 
support for identifying songs from other apps while you're listening via 
headphones for the very first time.

The new feature comes after Shazam was already able to identify songs from 
within other apps, but it was previously only able to do so while there were no 
headphones connected, limiting the usability somewhat. With Shazam 17.3, that 
has now changed.

Music to your ears
The new update, which can be downloaded for free now, works with both wired and 
Bluetooth headphones and earbuds which means AirPods, AirPods Max, and 
third-party options are all good to go. The lack of a requirement for Apple 
accessories is something that is definitely worth noting here.
"You can now identify music while wearing headphones (wired or Bluetooth)," the 
app's release notes explain. "Simply open the app, check for the headphone icon 
to confirm your headphones are connected, and then start recognizing music 
around you or within apps like TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube."

Apple bought Shazam back in 2017 and has been steadily integrating it with iOS 
and its other software for years. The app offers multiple widgets for quick 
music identification and more, but the ability to identify music from within 
another app is a huge boon for people who hear a song in an ad or video and 
want to be able to find out what it was.

More from iMore
•Shazam — Everything you need to know!
•Shazam now works 'harder' and 'longer' to recognize the song 
that's playing
•Shazam now puts your song history in Control Center even if you 
used Siri

Original Article at:
https://www.imore.com/apps/audio-apps/apples-shazam-can-now-identify-songs-playing-inside-other-iphone-and-ipad-apps-even-while-youre-wearing-headphones

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RE: Here Are The Steps to Get Your iOS 17.2 iPhone / iPad to Automatically Announce When the Battery Level Falls Below or Rises Above a Certain Percentage

[Katrina Anderson]

So, I managed to remedy the problem/question asked below.  I could try to share 
what I did, but I’m honestly not exactly sure of the process.  What I do know 
is that all the digging I did in settings was not the road to travel.  The 
solution is to open Shortcuts, select the desired shortcut, and that’s where 
things are not clear enough to go into accurate detail.  I was able to switch 
the voice away from Samantha, to my desired voice, but I probably could have 
figured out how to keep Samantha and customize her voice so that she doesn’t 
speak so darn slow/deep.  Whew, what a process, but my shortcuts for low 
battery are working as I want/need.
 
Katrina
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Katrina 
Anderson
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2024 11:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Here Are The Steps to Get Your iOS 17.2 iPhone / iPad to 
Automatically Announce When the Battery Level Falls Below or Rises Above a 
Certain Percentage
 
I am just getting around to following up on this; have really missed not having 
the notification of low battery.  I have set up a couple of shortcuts, 
including one to alert battery is less than 20%, and another to alert at 10%.  
The battery is nowhere that low, so I’m interested to see if it works.  
However, when clicking on the option to run the shortcut, I heard the 
appropriate alert that I had created, so that is promising.  However, my issue 
is the voice that speaks the message is a slow Samatha, which I use to use, 
until I chose to switch to using English Siri 1, 2 & 4.  The former is used for 
Siri, but I’m thinking it may also be an option for Voiceover.  I have 
designated English Siri 4 as default, and I’m assuming that directly relates to 
Voiceover.  In short, am I stuck listening to the very slow Samatha for my 
shortcut alerts? 
 
I’ve played around quite a bit under “Accessibility,” “Voiceover;” set speed to 
anywhere from 50-60.  Under “Spoken,” I hear “Voice Siri 1 United States;” when 
clicking on that, and swiping over, I find “Siri Voice 1” is selected,” but of 
course I am able to switch to Samantha if desired.  However, the only 
adjustment to Samantha’s voice is “timbre” and “sentence pause.”  Somewhere in 
my messing around, I managed to delete or maybe it is more unload/uninstall the 
voice, but it is still here in these options, and it shows up in the rotor when 
Samantha is selected.  I’ve switched back to “Siri Voice 1,,” Samantha is gone 
from the rotor and Siri Voice 1 is back.  
 
Under “Accessibility,” “Voiceover,” and “Verbosity,” I select “System 
Notifications,” and select “Speak” where possible.  There isn’t an option to 
alter the voice of System Notifications.
 
Under “Accessibility,” “Voiceover,” “Audio,” I didn’t find anything that seemed 
to apply.
 
Under “Accessibility,” “Spoken,” “Voices,” the first button after the header 
“System Voices,” is “English Siri Voice 1;” double tap on that button changes 
nothing; I don’t hear “selected.”  Samantha is not present anywhere, and I 
don’t see how to  do much except select a voice/language that I don’t want.  
Going back a screen, to the right of “Voices,” is “Default Language English 
Button.”  Double tap on that button leads me to a similar screen; it appears I 
could select “Locale,” whatever that is or “English,” and the latter is 
selected.   
 
Under “Siri and Search,” I find “Language English United States Button.”  
Clicking on that didn’t help.
 
Under “Siri and Search,” I find “”Siri Voice American Voice 1.”  Clicking there 
wasn’t helpful; could have selected another Siri voice…nothing about Samantha.
 
And so much more investigation, trial/error in Settings, didn’t bring me 
success.  Thoughts?
 
Katrina
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To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Here Are The Steps to Get Your iOS 17.2 iPhone / iPad to Automatically 
Announce When the Battery Level Falls Below or Rises Above a Certain Percentage
 
Hello Everyone,

If you would like to have your iPhone automatically announce when the battery 
level falls below a certain percentage, with VoiceOver enabled, do the 
following:

1.
Launch the Shortcuts app.

2.
Select the Automation tab, located near the bottom of the display.

3.
Select the Add button, located near the top right corner of the display.  A 
list of choices will appear.

4.
Select Battery Level.  A new screen will appear.

5.
Adjust the slider to the desired battery level that will automatically activate 
the shortcut.  The default level is 50%.

6.
On this same screen, select the “Falls Below” option.  Of course, you should 
select either of the other two options in this area, as well.

7.
In the third and final area of this screen, select the “Run Immediately” 
option.  Selecting this option will cause another option to be displayed said 
option being to not only announce the battery level but to also place

RE: Here Are The Steps to Get Your iOS 17.2 iPhone / iPad to Automatically Announce When the Battery Level Falls Below or Rises Above a Certain Percentage

[Katrina Anderson]

I am just getting around to following up on this; have really missed not having 
the notification of low battery.  I have set up a couple of shortcuts, 
including one to alert battery is less than 20%, and another to alert at 10%.  
The battery is nowhere that low, so I’m interested to see if it works.  
However, when clicking on the option to run the shortcut, I heard the 
appropriate alert that I had created, so that is promising.  However, my issue 
is the voice that speaks the message is a slow Samatha, which I use to use, 
until I chose to switch to using English Siri 1, 2 & 4.  The former is used for 
Siri, but I’m thinking it may also be an option for Voiceover.  I have 
designated English Siri 4 as default, and I’m assuming that directly relates to 
Voiceover.  In short, am I stuck listening to the very slow Samatha for my 
shortcut alerts? 
 
I’ve played around quite a bit under “Accessibility,” “Voiceover;” set speed to 
anywhere from 50-60.  Under “Spoken,” I hear “Voice Siri 1 United States;” when 
clicking on that, and swiping over, I find “Siri Voice 1” is selected,” but of 
course I am able to switch to Samantha if desired.  However, the only 
adjustment to Samantha’s voice is “timbre” and “sentence pause.”  Somewhere in 
my messing around, I managed to delete or maybe it is more unload/uninstall the 
voice, but it is still here in these options, and it shows up in the rotor when 
Samantha is selected.  I’ve switched back to “Siri Voice 1,,” Samantha is gone 
from the rotor and Siri Voice 1 is back.  
 
Under “Accessibility,” “Voiceover,” and “Verbosity,” I select “System 
Notifications,” and select “Speak” where possible.  There isn’t an option to 
alter the voice of System Notifications.
 
Under “Accessibility,” “Voiceover,” “Audio,” I didn’t find anything that seemed 
to apply.
 
Under “Accessibility,” “Spoken,” “Voices,” the first button after the header 
“System Voices,” is “English Siri Voice 1;” double tap on that button changes 
nothing; I don’t hear “selected.”  Samantha is not present anywhere, and I 
don’t see how to  do much except select a voice/language that I don’t want.  
Going back a screen, to the right of “Voices,” is “Default Language English 
Button.”  Double tap on that button leads me to a similar screen; it appears I 
could select “Locale,” whatever that is or “English,” and the latter is 
selected.   
 
Under “Siri and Search,” I find “Language English United States Button.”  
Clicking on that didn’t help.
 
Under “Siri and Search,” I find “”Siri Voice American Voice 1.”  Clicking there 
wasn’t helpful; could have selected another Siri voice…nothing about Samantha.
 
And so much more investigation, trial/error in Settings, didn’t bring me 
success.  Thoughts?
 
Katrina
From: VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 3:37 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Here Are The Steps to Get Your iOS 17.2 iPhone / iPad to Automatically 
Announce When the Battery Level Falls Below or Rises Above a Certain Percentage
 
Hello Everyone,

If you would like to have your iPhone automatically announce when the battery 
level falls below a certain percentage, with VoiceOver enabled, do the 
following:

1.
Launch the Shortcuts app.

2.
Select the Automation tab, located near the bottom of the display.

3.
Select the Add button, located near the top right corner of the display.  A 
list of choices will appear.

4.
Select Battery Level.  A new screen will appear.

5.
Adjust the slider to the desired battery level that will automatically activate 
the shortcut.  The default level is 50%.

6.
On this same screen, select the “Falls Below” option.  Of course, you should 
select either of the other two options in this area, as well.

7.
In the third and final area of this screen, select the “Run Immediately” 
option.  Selecting this option will cause another option to be displayed said 
option being to not only announce the battery level but to also place a 
notification in the notifications area.

8.
Select the Next button located near the top right corner of the display.  A new 
screen will appear.

Now the following step is where we, as VoiceOver users, have to take one extra 
step than does our sighted counterpart because of what I assume is a small 
VoiceOver bug that, in essence, is of no real consequence, at this point.

9.
Select the “Get Started” Button.

10.
Select “Speak Text” by performing either the VO split Tap or the VO pass 
through gesture.  This will both select and open the first level of options to 
the Speak Text function.

11.
Place VO focus on the line that VO reads as “Speak Text”.

12.
Single-finger, swipe up until you hear “Edit text,” and select this option.  
The edit field for the “Speak Text” function will open and you can either use 
the keyboard or dictation, to type the text that the TTS engine will announce. 
For example, “Mark, you devilishly handsome guy, the battery level has fallen 
below 50 percent.”

13.
Select the Done button located just above the on-sc

Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

[Mary Otten]

As it happens, when I looked this film that I was interested up on the big 
master list that ACB provides, Hulu doesn’t have audio description, a perfect 
illustration of your point, Chris. So I can pay for it on Amazon or watch it 
for free well almost free, on Hulu without a D. How nice. How absurd!
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 20, 2023, at 5:14 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> That is the frustrating thing about audio description.  Just because 
> something is described with one streaming service does not mean that it will 
> be described with another.  I myself think this should be changed.
> 
> The problem is with the licensing of the audio description.  It seems that 
> the audio description is licensed separately than the movie or show itself. 
> So a streaming service might be licensed to show the movie or tv show, but 
> not licensed to include the audio description.
> 
> I think the audio description and its movie or tv show should come as one 
> package.  If you license the movie or tv show, the audio description should 
> automatically be included.  The same thing goes for something shown live with 
> audio description, but then offered to watch on demand without audio 
> description.  So again, something really needs to be done about audio 
> description and how its distributed.
> 
> Chris Chaffin
> 
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:04 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, for whatever reason, the movie I was interested in or should I say 
>> documentary, is not audio described on Hulu. It is on Amazon supposedly if 
>> you pay for it. But on Hulu, no audio description. Why the heck not?
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Dec 19, 2023, at 10:43 AM, David Grossoehme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is being discussed on another list of blind people.  You can 
>>> subscribe to the list by sending a message to 
>>> adp-list+subscr...@acblists.org, which is a low traffic list. This list 
>>> consist of many blind users and audio description who watch tv by phone, tv 
>>> or computer.  There are many of us that can help.  However, Disney Plus is 
>>> combining Hulu Streaming with Disney Plus Streaming.  It maybe March before 
>>> people who have subscriptions with them, to know what is going to happen.  
>>> This list has a web link you can go to to see all described audio shows on 
>>> tv, and which network they are on with Audio Description.  Good luck.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On 12/19/2023 1:20 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:
>>>> HI Mary,
>>>> 
>>>> Have you tried the Hulu app? It might be easier in an app where you're 
>>>> accessing Hulu directly.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Anna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a 
>>>>> month. I want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having 
>>>>> audio description, at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay 
>>>>> for it or rent it. I have Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. 
>>>>> I want to know how to turn on audio description in this format. I can’t 
>>>>> find it anywhere. According to Amazon, AD is available, at least through 
>>>>> prime. But I want it on Hulu. Any ideas?
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

[David Grossoehme]

Have you looked into this.  On their they have a comment of being 
combined in early 2024.  The admin of the adp web site that keeps the 
show listings up weekly sent an email out that it would be March before 
anything was known to the members of that service. Where did you get 
your information that it would be late 2024 by the way?


Dave


On 12/19/2023 4:46 PM, Dennis Long wrote:

They for now are separate subscriptions.  There is a beta but no app where they 
would be combined until late 2024.


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Grossoehme
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten 
Subject: Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

As of December 7th all Hulu was placed on Disney Plus.  If in question
then call Disney and see if they can help you.  However, you will
receive more information from other blind tv users from the
adp-l...@acblists.org.  Hulu will be combined with Disney Plus
Streaming, as of earlier today, one other blind member of that list
emailed, that it will be probably March before a lot of action is taken
from them.  Hulu will not exist, beings they are part of Disney and are
being combined into the Disney Plus Streaming Service.

Dave


On 12/19/2023 12:35 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a month. I 
want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio description, 
at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or rent it. I have 
Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to know how to turn on 
audio description in this format. I can’t find it anywhere. According to 
Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But I want it on Hulu. Any 
ideas?
Mary

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Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

[David Grossoehme]

Hulu is loosing their servicers to another stream as you will see if you 
would do a little research.  Hulu is being combined with Disney Plus as 
I tried to let you know in another message yesterday.  You are lucky to 
receive the audio description in any stream from the internet until our 
laws are changed.


Dave


On 12/20/2023 8:14 AM, Chris Chaffin wrote:

That is the frustrating thing about audio description.  Just because something 
is described with one streaming service does not mean that it will be described 
with another.  I myself think this should be changed.

The problem is with the licensing of the audio description.  It seems that the 
audio description is licensed separately than the movie or show itself. So a 
streaming service might be licensed to show the movie or tv show, but not 
licensed to include the audio description.

I think the audio description and its movie or tv show should come as one 
package.  If you license the movie or tv show, the audio description should 
automatically be included.  The same thing goes for something shown live with 
audio description, but then offered to watch on demand without audio 
description.  So again, something really needs to be done about audio 
description and how its distributed.

Chris Chaffin



On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:04 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Well, for whatever reason, the movie I was interested in or should I say 
documentary, is not audio described on Hulu. It is on Amazon supposedly if you 
pay for it. But on Hulu, no audio description. Why the heck not?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 19, 2023, at 10:43 AM, David Grossoehme  wrote:

This is being discussed on another list of blind people.  You can subscribe to 
the list by sending a message to adp-list+subscr...@acblists.org, which is a 
low traffic list. This list consist of many blind users and audio description 
who watch tv by phone, tv or computer.  There are many of us that can help.  
However, Disney Plus is combining Hulu Streaming with Disney Plus Streaming.  
It maybe March before people who have subscriptions with them, to know what is 
going to happen.  This list has a web link you can go to to see all described 
audio shows on tv, and which network they are on with Audio Description.  Good 
luck.

Dave



On 12/19/2023 1:20 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:

HI Mary,

Have you tried the Hulu app? It might be easier in an app where you're 
accessing Hulu directly.

Best,
Anna



On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a month. I 
want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio description, 
at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or rent it. I have 
Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to know how to turn on 
audio description in this format. I can’t find it anywhere. According to 
Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But I want it on Hulu. Any 
ideas?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

[Chris Chaffin]

That is the frustrating thing about audio description.  Just because something 
is described with one streaming service does not mean that it will be described 
with another.  I myself think this should be changed.

The problem is with the licensing of the audio description.  It seems that the 
audio description is licensed separately than the movie or show itself. So a 
streaming service might be licensed to show the movie or tv show, but not 
licensed to include the audio description.

I think the audio description and its movie or tv show should come as one 
package.  If you license the movie or tv show, the audio description should 
automatically be included.  The same thing goes for something shown live with 
audio description, but then offered to watch on demand without audio 
description.  So again, something really needs to be done about audio 
description and how its distributed. 

Chris Chaffin


> On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:04 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Well, for whatever reason, the movie I was interested in or should I say 
> documentary, is not audio described on Hulu. It is on Amazon supposedly if 
> you pay for it. But on Hulu, no audio description. Why the heck not?
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2023, at 10:43 AM, David Grossoehme  wrote:
>> 
>> This is being discussed on another list of blind people.  You can subscribe 
>> to the list by sending a message to adp-list+subscr...@acblists.org, which 
>> is a low traffic list. This list consist of many blind users and audio 
>> description who watch tv by phone, tv or computer.  There are many of us 
>> that can help.  However, Disney Plus is combining Hulu Streaming with Disney 
>> Plus Streaming.  It maybe March before people who have subscriptions with 
>> them, to know what is going to happen.  This list has a web link you can go 
>> to to see all described audio shows on tv, and which network they are on 
>> with Audio Description.  Good luck.
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>>>> On 12/19/2023 1:20 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:
>>> HI Mary,
>>> 
>>> Have you tried the Hulu app? It might be easier in an app where you're 
>>> accessing Hulu directly.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
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>>>> month. I want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having 
>>>> audio description, at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for 
>>>> it or rent it. I have Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I 
>>>> want to know how to turn on audio description in this format. I can’t find 
>>>> it anywhere. According to Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. 
>>>> But I want it on Hulu. Any ideas?
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
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Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

[Mary Otten]

Well, for whatever reason, the movie I was interested in or should I say 
documentary, is not audio described on Hulu. It is on Amazon supposedly if you 
pay for it. But on Hulu, no audio description. Why the heck not?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 19, 2023, at 10:43 AM, David Grossoehme  wrote:
> 
> This is being discussed on another list of blind people.  You can subscribe 
> to the list by sending a message to adp-list+subscr...@acblists.org, which is 
> a low traffic list. This list consist of many blind users and audio 
> description who watch tv by phone, tv or computer.  There are many of us that 
> can help.  However, Disney Plus is combining Hulu Streaming with Disney Plus 
> Streaming.  It maybe March before people who have subscriptions with them, to 
> know what is going to happen.  This list has a web link you can go to to see 
> all described audio shows on tv, and which network they are on with Audio 
> Description.  Good luck.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
>> On 12/19/2023 1:20 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:
>> HI Mary,
>> 
>> Have you tried the Hulu app? It might be easier in an app where you're 
>> accessing Hulu directly.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a 
>>> month. I want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio 
>>> description, at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or 
>>> rent it. I have Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to 
>>> know how to turn on audio description in this format. I can’t find it 
>>> anywhere. According to Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But 
>>> I want it on Hulu. Any ideas?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

[Dennis Long]

They for now are separate subscriptions.  There is a beta but no app where they 
would be combined until late 2024.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of David 
Grossoehme
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten 
Subject: Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

As of December 7th all Hulu was placed on Disney Plus.  If in question 
then call Disney and see if they can help you.  However, you will 
receive more information from other blind tv users from the 
adp-l...@acblists.org.  Hulu will be combined with Disney Plus 
Streaming, as of earlier today, one other blind member of that list 
emailed, that it will be probably March before a lot of action is taken 
from them.  Hulu will not exist, beings they are part of Disney and are 
being combined into the Disney Plus Streaming Service.

Dave


On 12/19/2023 12:35 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a month. 
> I want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio 
> description, at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or 
> rent it. I have Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to know 
> how to turn on audio description in this format. I can’t find it anywhere. 
> According to Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But I want it 
> on Hulu. Any ideas?
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

[Dennis Long]

That is not correct.  They will still have both apps.  I will find the article.

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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten 
Subject: Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

As of December 7th all Hulu was placed on Disney Plus.  If in question 
then call Disney and see if they can help you.  However, you will 
receive more information from other blind tv users from the 
adp-l...@acblists.org.  Hulu will be combined with Disney Plus 
Streaming, as of earlier today, one other blind member of that list 
emailed, that it will be probably March before a lot of action is taken 
from them.  Hulu will not exist, beings they are part of Disney and are 
being combined into the Disney Plus Streaming Service.

Dave


On 12/19/2023 12:35 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a month. 
> I want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio 
> description, at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or 
> rent it. I have Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to know 
> how to turn on audio description in this format. I can’t find it anywhere. 
> According to Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But I want it 
> on Hulu. Any ideas?
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

[David Grossoehme]

As of December 7th all Hulu was placed on Disney Plus.  If in question 
then call Disney and see if they can help you.  However, you will 
receive more information from other blind tv users from the 
adp-l...@acblists.org.  Hulu will be combined with Disney Plus 
Streaming, as of earlier today, one other blind member of that list 
emailed, that it will be probably March before a lot of action is taken 
from them.  Hulu will not exist, beings they are part of Disney and are 
being combined into the Disney Plus Streaming Service.


Dave


On 12/19/2023 12:35 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a month. I 
want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio description, 
at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or rent it. I have 
Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to know how to turn on 
audio description in this format. I can’t find it anywhere. According to 
Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But I want it on Hulu. Any 
ideas?
Mary

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Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

[David Grossoehme]

This is being discussed on another list of blind people.  You can 
subscribe to the list by sending a message to 
adp-list+subscr...@acblists.org, which is a low traffic list. This list 
consist of many blind users and audio description who watch tv by phone, 
tv or computer.  There are many of us that can help.  However, Disney 
Plus is combining Hulu Streaming with Disney Plus Streaming.  It maybe 
March before people who have subscriptions with them, to know what is 
going to happen.  This list has a web link you can go to to see all 
described audio shows on tv, and which network they are on with Audio 
Description.  Good luck.


Dave


On 12/19/2023 1:20 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:

HI Mary,

Have you tried the Hulu app? It might be easier in an app where you're 
accessing Hulu directly.

Best,
Anna



On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a month. I 
want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio description, 
at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or rent it. I have 
Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to know how to turn on 
audio description in this format. I can’t find it anywhere. According to 
Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But I want it on Hulu. Any 
ideas?
Mary

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Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

[Anna Dresner]

HI Mary,

Have you tried the Hulu app? It might be easier in an app where you're 
accessing Hulu directly.

Best,
Anna


> On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a month. 
> I want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio 
> description, at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or 
> rent it. I have Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to know 
> how to turn on audio description in this format. I can’t find it anywhere. 
> According to Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But I want it 
> on Hulu. Any ideas?
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

[Mary Otten]

I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a month. I 
want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio description, 
at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or rent it. I have 
Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to know how to turn on 
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Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But I want it on Hulu. Any 
ideas?
Mary

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RE: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

[davycuppens]

Hi I will do that, I am a tester for Apple accessibility! J 
Davy 

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Michael Irons
Verzonden: maandag 18 december 2023 15:56
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 
17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

You may be right Davey there will always be a bug of some kind. The thing that 
is important is when you find it then you would want to call Apple 
Accessibility or get a hold of Apple in someway and talk to them about it and 
work with them on it what you were doing The important thing is that the 
software has had enough of the difficulties in bags worked out that I am all of 
us would be able to use it. You are doing a good thing. Just remember when you 
find something that isn’t working for you get a hold of Apple and work with him 
on it like you were doing right now. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2023, at 8:50 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Mark 
> 
> There are and will always be bugs or device depenend issues; 
> 
> For me there is stil a dictation bug whereas after dictating tekst no 
> feedback is given from voiceover of the written tekst, Apple is aware of that 
> and I am testing with them.
> So it is too positive to pretend this software version is free of bugs, that 
> will never bet he case, never ever!
> Davy 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: M. Taylor  Namens M. Taylor
> Verzonden: vrijdag 15 december 2023 20:07
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive 
> Experience
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their 
> respective latest versions of the OS.
> 
> I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect 
> of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet 
> encountered a bug.
> 
> And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid 
> job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes, dare 
> I say it, even TV OS.
> 
> I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10.  Again, I can not find 
> a bug.
> 
> In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've 
> used since the feature was introduced many years ago.
> 
> I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest 
> OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS.
> 
> However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced, 
> when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved.
> 
> Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2.  I am 
> running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max.
> 
> Before installing the OS I:
> 
> 1.
> Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest 
> version of iTunes.
> 
> 2.
> Backed up the device to iCloud.
> 
> 3.
> Closed every app via the App Switcher.
> 
> 4.
> Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network.
> 
> 5.
> Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network.
> 
> 6.
> Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes.  This 
> insures that the device has full acquisition of the network.
> 
> 7.
> Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air).
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I also really like IOS17.2 AS WELL.  Apart from bard mobile being a
pain and giving me some issues, things are working very well.

On 12/18/23, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> Hey Mark,
>
> I’m glad that it went well for you. Much like you I have not had any show
> stopping bugs. It’s been pretty good so far.
>
> Ed W.
>
>
>> On Dec 15, 2023, at 12:07 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their
>> respective latest versions of the OS.
>>
>> I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every
>> aspect
>> of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet
>> encountered a bug.
>>
>> And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a
>> splendid
>> job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes,
>> dare I say it, even TV OS.
>>
>> I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10.  Again, I can not
>> find a bug.
>>
>> In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've
>> used since the feature was introduced many years ago.
>>
>> I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the
>> latest
>> OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS.
>>
>> However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I
>> experienced,
>> when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely
>> resolved.
>>
>> Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2.  I am
>> running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max.
>>
>> Before installing the OS I:
>>
>> 1.
>> Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the
>> latest
>> version of iTunes.
>>
>> 2.
>> Backed up the device to iCloud.
>>
>> 3.
>> Closed every app via the App Switcher.
>>
>> 4.
>> Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network.
>>
>> 5.
>> Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network.
>>
>> 6.
>> Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes.
>> This
>> insures that the device has full acquisition of the network.
>>
>> 7.
>> Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air).
>>
>> Mark
>>
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Re: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Mark,

I’m glad that it went well for you. Much like you I have not had any show 
stopping bugs. It’s been pretty good so far.

Ed W.


> On Dec 15, 2023, at 12:07 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their
> respective latest versions of the OS.
> 
> I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect
> of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet
> encountered a bug.
> 
> And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid
> job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes,
> dare I say it, even TV OS.
> 
> I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10.  Again, I can not
> find a bug.
> 
> In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've
> used since the feature was introduced many years ago.
> 
> I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest
> OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS.
> 
> However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced,
> when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved.
> 
> Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2.  I am
> running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max.
> 
> Before installing the OS I:
> 
> 1.
> Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest
> version of iTunes.
> 
> 2.
> Backed up the device to iCloud.
> 
> 3.
> Closed every app via the App Switcher.
> 
> 4.
> Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network.
> 
> 5.
> Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network.
> 
> 6.
> Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes.  This
> insures that the device has full acquisition of the network.
> 
> 7.
> Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air).
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

[M. Taylor]

Very well stated, Richard, and thank you for posting such a gracious comment.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 
17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

Every app and operating system on the planet has bugs.
I am amazed at the number of app updates that say nothing more than "fixed some 
bugs."  This is simply a fact of life with so many different devices and 
operating systems.  
When someone has a positive experience, let them have their positive experience 
without immediately throwing cold water on it.
At this point, I have very few issues with iOS 17.2.  

Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Irons
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 6:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 
17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

You may be right Davey there will always be a bug of some kind. The thing that 
is important is when you find it then you would want to call Apple 
Accessibility or get a hold of Apple in someway and talk to them about it and 
work with them on it what you were doing The important thing is that the 
software has had enough of the difficulties in bags worked out that I am all of 
us would be able to use it. You are doing a good thing. Just remember when you 
find something that isn’t working for you get a hold of Apple and work with him 
on it like you were doing right now. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2023, at 8:50 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Mark 
> 
> There are and will always be bugs or device depenend issues; 
> 
> For me there is stil a dictation bug whereas after dictating tekst no 
> feedback is given from voiceover of the written tekst, Apple is aware of that 
> and I am testing with them.
> So it is too positive to pretend this software version is free of bugs, that 
> will never bet he case, never ever!
> Davy 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: M. Taylor  Namens M. Taylor
> Verzonden: vrijdag 15 december 2023 20:07
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive 
> Experience
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their 
> respective latest versions of the OS.
> 
> I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect 
> of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet 
> encountered a bug.
> 
> And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid 
> job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes, dare 
> I say it, even TV OS.
> 
> I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10.  Again, I can not find 
> a bug.
> 
> In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've 
> used since the feature was introduced many years ago.
> 
> I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest 
> OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS.
> 
> However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced, 
> when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved.
> 
> Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2.  I am 
> running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max.
> 
> Before installing the OS I:
> 
> 1.
> Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest 
> version of iTunes.
> 
> 2.
> Backed up the device to iCloud.
> 
> 3.
> Closed every app via the App Switcher.
> 
> 4.
> Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network.
> 
> 5.
> Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network.
> 
> 6.
> Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes.  This 
> insures that the device has full acquisition of the network.
> 
> 7.
> Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air).
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

[Richard Turner]

Every app and operating system on the planet has bugs.
I am amazed at the number of app updates that say nothing more than "fixed some 
bugs."  This is simply a fact of life with so many different devices and 
operating systems.  
When someone has a positive experience, let them have their positive experience 
without immediately throwing cold water on it.
At this point, I have very few issues with iOS 17.2.  

Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

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JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Irons
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 6:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 
17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

You may be right Davey there will always be a bug of some kind. The thing that 
is important is when you find it then you would want to call Apple 
Accessibility or get a hold of Apple in someway and talk to them about it and 
work with them on it what you were doing The important thing is that the 
software has had enough of the difficulties in bags worked out that I am all of 
us would be able to use it. You are doing a good thing. Just remember when you 
find something that isn’t working for you get a hold of Apple and work with him 
on it like you were doing right now. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2023, at 8:50 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Mark 
> 
> There are and will always be bugs or device depenend issues; 
> 
> For me there is stil a dictation bug whereas after dictating tekst no 
> feedback is given from voiceover of the written tekst, Apple is aware of that 
> and I am testing with them.
> So it is too positive to pretend this software version is free of bugs, that 
> will never bet he case, never ever!
> Davy 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: M. Taylor  Namens M. Taylor
> Verzonden: vrijdag 15 december 2023 20:07
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive 
> Experience
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their 
> respective latest versions of the OS.
> 
> I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect 
> of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet 
> encountered a bug.
> 
> And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid 
> job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes, dare 
> I say it, even TV OS.
> 
> I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10.  Again, I can not find 
> a bug.
> 
> In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've 
> used since the feature was introduced many years ago.
> 
> I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest 
> OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS.
> 
> However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced, 
> when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved.
> 
> Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2.  I am 
> running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max.
> 
> Before installing the OS I:
> 
> 1.
> Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest 
> version of iTunes.
> 
> 2.
> Backed up the device to iCloud.
> 
> 3.
> Closed every app via the App Switcher.
> 
> 4.
> Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network.
> 
> 5.
> Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network.
> 
> 6.
> Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes.  This 
> insures that the device has full acquisition of the network.
> 
> 7.
> Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air).
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

[Michael Irons]

You may be right Davey there will always be a bug of some kind. The thing that 
is important is when you find it then you would want to call Apple 
Accessibility or get a hold of Apple in someway and talk to them about it and 
work with them on it what you were doing The important thing is that the 
software has had enough of the difficulties in bags worked out that I am all of 
us would be able to use it. You are doing a good thing. Just remember when you 
find something that isn’t working for you get a hold of Apple and work with him 
on it like you were doing right now. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2023, at 8:50 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Mark 
> 
> There are and will always be bugs or device depenend issues; 
> 
> For me there is stil a dictation bug whereas after dictating tekst no 
> feedback is given from voiceover of the written tekst, Apple is aware of that 
> and I am testing with them.
> So it is too positive to pretend this software version is free of bugs, that 
> will never bet he case, never ever!
> Davy 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: M. Taylor  Namens M. Taylor
> Verzonden: vrijdag 15 december 2023 20:07
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive 
> Experience
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their 
> respective latest versions of the OS.
> 
> I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect 
> of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet 
> encountered a bug.
> 
> And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid 
> job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes, dare 
> I say it, even TV OS.
> 
> I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10.  Again, I can not find 
> a bug.
> 
> In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've 
> used since the feature was introduced many years ago.
> 
> I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest 
> OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS.
> 
> However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced, 
> when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved.
> 
> Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2.  I am 
> running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max.
> 
> Before installing the OS I:
> 
> 1.
> Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest 
> version of iTunes.
> 
> 2.
> Backed up the device to iCloud.
> 
> 3.
> Closed every app via the App Switcher.
> 
> 4.
> Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network.
> 
> 5.
> Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network.
> 
> 6.
> Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes.  This 
> insures that the device has full acquisition of the network.
> 
> 7.
> Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air).
> 
> Mark
> 
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there will always be bugs RE: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

[davycuppens]

Mark 

There are and will always be bugs or device depenend issues; 

For me there is stil a dictation bug whereas after dictating tekst no feedback 
is given from voiceover of the written tekst, Apple is aware of that and I am 
testing with them.
So it is too positive to pretend this software version is free of bugs, that 
will never bet he case, never ever!
Davy 

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: M. Taylor  Namens M. Taylor
Verzonden: vrijdag 15 december 2023 20:07
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive 
Experience

Hello All,

Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their 
respective latest versions of the OS.

I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect of 
all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet encountered a 
bug.

And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid job 
with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes, dare I say 
it, even TV OS.

I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10.  Again, I can not find a 
bug.

In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've used 
since the feature was introduced many years ago.

I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest OS 
so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS.

However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced, when 
having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved.

Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2.  I am 
running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max.

Before installing the OS I:

1.
Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest 
version of iTunes.

2.
Backed up the device to iCloud.

3.
Closed every app via the App Switcher.

4.
Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network.

5.
Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network.

6.
Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes.  This 
insures that the device has full acquisition of the network.

7.
Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air).

Mark


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Re: Here Are The Steps to Get Your iOS 17.2 iPhone / iPad to Automatically Announce When the Battery Level Falls Below or Rises Above a Certain Percentage

[Grant Downey]

Thanks for your email!

On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 3:00 PM M. Taylor  wrote:

> You’re very welcome, John.
>
> So glad you like it and that it works for you.
>
> I have my phone announce when the battery level drops below 80%, 60%, and
> 40%.  Of course, each of these announcements requires its own shortcut.
>
> Again, you’re very welcome.
>
> Mark
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> John Panarese
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 12:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Here Are The Steps to Get Your iOS 17.2 iPhone / iPad to
> Automatically Announce When the Battery Level Falls Below or Rises Above a
> Certain Percentage
>
>Works like a charm. Thank you very much for this.
>
>
> Take Care
>
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com
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>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
>
> On Dec 17, 2023, at 3:37 PM, VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> If you would like to have your iPhone automatically announce when the
> battery level falls below a certain percentage, with VoiceOver enabled, do
> the following:
>
> 1.
> Launch the Shortcuts app.
>
> 2.
> Select the Automation tab, located near the bottom of the display.
>
> 3.
> Select the Add button, located near the top right corner of the display.
> A list of choices will appear.
>
> 4.
> Select Battery Level.  A new screen will appear.
>
> 5.
> Adjust the slider to the desired battery level that will automatically
> activate the shortcut.  The default level is 50%.
>
> 6.
> On this same screen, select the “Falls Below” option.  Of course, you
> should select either of the other two options in this area, as well.
>
> 7.
> In the third and final area of this screen, select the “Run Immediately”
> option.  Selecting this option will cause another option to be displayed
> said option being to not only announce the battery level but to also place
> a notification in the notifications area.
>
> 8.
> Select the Next button located near the top right corner of the display.
> A new screen will appear.
>
> Now the following step is where we, as VoiceOver users, have to take one
> extra step than does our sighted counterpart because of what I assume is a
> small VoiceOver bug that, in essence, is of no real consequence, at this
> point.
>
> 9.
> Select the “Get Started” Button.
>
> 10.
> Select “Speak Text” by performing either the VO split Tap or the VO pass
> through gesture.  This will both select and open the first level of options
> to the Speak Text function.
>
> 11.
> Place VO focus on the line that VO reads as “Speak Text”.
>
> 12.
> Single-finger, swipe up until you hear “Edit text,” and select this
> option.  The edit field for the “Speak Text” function will open and you can
> either use the keyboard or dictation, to type the text that the TTS engine
> will announce. For example, “Mark, you devilishly handsome guy, the battery
> level has fallen below 50 percent.”
>
> 13.
> Select the Done button located just above the on-screen keyboard, on the
> right side of the display.
>
> 14.
> Test the announcement by selection the “Run this Shortcut” button, located
> near the bottom right corner of the display.
>
> 15.
> Finally, select the Done button, located near the top right corner of the
> display.
>
> 16.
> Close the Shortcuts app.
>
> That’s all there is to it.  The next time the battery level falls below
> the percentage you designated, it will be automatically announced,outloud.
>
> Mark
>
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RE: Here Are The Steps to Get Your iOS 17.2 iPhone / iPad to Automatically Announce When the Battery Level Falls Below or Rises Above a Certain Percentage

[M. Taylor]

You’re very welcome, John.

So glad you like it and that it works for you.

I have my phone announce when the battery level drops below 80%, 60%, and 40%.  
Of course, each of these announcements requires its own shortcut.

Again, you’re very welcome.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of John 
Panarese
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 12:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Here Are The Steps to Get Your iOS 17.2 iPhone / iPad to 
Automatically Announce When the Battery Level Falls Below or Rises Above a 
Certain Percentage

   Works like a charm. Thank you very much for this.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
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On Dec 17, 2023, at 3:37 PM, VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

If you would like to have your iPhone automatically announce when the battery 
level falls below a certain percentage, with VoiceOver enabled, do the 
following:

1.
Launch the Shortcuts app.

2.
Select the Automation tab, located near the bottom of the display.

3.
Select the Add button, located near the top right corner of the display.  A 
list of choices will appear.

4.
Select Battery Level.  A new screen will appear.

5.
Adjust the slider to the desired battery level that will automatically activate 
the shortcut.  The default level is 50%.

6.
On this same screen, select the “Falls Below” option.  Of course, you should 
select either of the other two options in this area, as well.

7.
In the third and final area of this screen, select the “Run Immediately” 
option.  Selecting this option will cause another option to be displayed said 
option being to not only announce the battery level but to also place a 
notification in the notifications area.

8.
Select the Next button located near the top right corner of the display.  A new 
screen will appear.

Now the following step is where we, as VoiceOver users, have to take one extra 
step than does our sighted counterpart because of what I assume is a small 
VoiceOver bug that, in essence, is of no real consequence, at this point.

9.
Select the “Get Started” Button.

10.
Select “Speak Text” by performing either the VO split Tap or the VO pass 
through gesture.  This will both select and open the first level of options to 
the Speak Text function.

11.
Place VO focus on the line that VO reads as “Speak Text”.

12.
Single-finger, swipe up until you hear “Edit text,” and select this option.  
The edit field for the “Speak Text” function will open and you can either use 
the keyboard or dictation, to type the text that the TTS engine will announce. 
For example, “Mark, you devilishly handsome guy, the battery level has fallen 
below 50 percent.”

13.
Select the Done button located just above the on-screen keyboard, on the right 
side of the display.

14.
Test the announcement by selection the “Run this Shortcut” button, located near 
the bottom right corner of the display.

15.
Finally, select the Done button, located near the top right corner of the 
display.

16.
Close the Shortcuts app.

That’s all there is to it.  The next time the battery level falls below the 
percentage you designated, it will be automatically announced,outloud.

Mark

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Re: Here Are The Steps to Get Your iOS 17.2 iPhone / iPad to Automatically Announce When the Battery Level Falls Below or Rises Above a Certain Percentage

[John Panarese]

   Works like a charm. Thank you very much for this.


Take Care

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> On Dec 17, 2023, at 3:37 PM, VIPhone  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> If you would like to have your iPhone automatically announce when the battery 
> level falls below a certain percentage, with VoiceOver enabled, do the 
> following:
> 
> 1.
> Launch the Shortcuts app.
> 
> 2.
> Select the Automation tab, located near the bottom of the display.
> 
> 3.
> Select the Add button, located near the top right corner of the display.  A 
> list of choices will appear.
> 
> 4.
> Select Battery Level.  A new screen will appear.
> 
> 5.
> Adjust the slider to the desired battery level that will automatically 
> activate the shortcut.  The default level is 50%.
> 
> 6.
> On this same screen, select the “Falls Below” option.  Of course, you should 
> select either of the other two options in this area, as well.
> 
> 7.
> In the third and final area of this screen, select the “Run Immediately” 
> option.  Selecting this option will cause another option to be displayed said 
> option being to not only announce the battery level but to also place a 
> notification in the notifications area.
> 
> 8.
> Select the Next button located near the top right corner of the display.  A 
> new screen will appear.
> 
> Now the following step is where we, as VoiceOver users, have to take one 
> extra step than does our sighted counterpart because of what I assume is a 
> small VoiceOver bug that, in essence, is of no real consequence, at this 
> point.
> 
> 9.
> Select the “Get Started” Button.
> 
> 10.
> Select “Speak Text” by performing either the VO split Tap or the VO pass 
> through gesture.  This will both select and open the first level of options 
> to the Speak Text function.
> 
> 11.
> Place VO focus on the line that VO reads as “Speak Text”.
> 
> 12.
> Single-finger, swipe up until you hear “Edit text,” and select this option.  
> The edit field for the “Speak Text” function will open and you can either use 
> the keyboard or dictation, to type the text that the TTS engine will 
> announce. For example, “Mark, you devilishly handsome guy, the battery level 
> has fallen below 50 percent.”
> 
> 13.
> Select the Done button located just above the on-screen keyboard, on the 
> right side of the display.
> 
> 14.
> Test the announcement by selection the “Run this Shortcut” button, located 
> near the bottom right corner of the display.
> 
> 15.
> Finally, select the Done button, located near the top right corner of the 
> display.
> 
> 16.
> Close the Shortcuts app.
> 
> That’s all there is to it.  The next time the battery level falls below the 
> percentage you designated, it will be automatically announced,outloud.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Here Are The Steps to Get Your iOS 17.2 iPhone / iPad to Automatically Announce When the Battery Level Falls Below or Rises Above a Certain Percentage

[VIPhone]

Hello Everyone,

If you would like to have your iPhone automatically announce when the 
battery level falls below a certain percentage, with VoiceOver enabled, do 
the following:

1.
Launch the Shortcuts app.

2.
Select the Automation tab, located near the bottom of the display.

3.
Select the Add button, located near the top right corner of the display.  A 
list of choices will appear.

4.
Select Battery Level.  A new screen will appear.

5.
Adjust the slider to the desired battery level that will automatically 
activate the shortcut.  The default level is 50%.

6.
On this same screen, select the “Falls Below” option.  Of course, you 
should select either of the other two options in this area, as well.

7.
In the third and final area of this screen, select the “Run Immediately” 
option.  Selecting this option will cause another option to be displayed 
said option being to not only announce the battery level but to also place 
a notification in the notifications area.

8.
Select the Next button located near the top right corner of the display.  A 
new screen will appear.

Now the following step is where we, as VoiceOver users, have to take one 
extra step than does our sighted counterpart because of what I assume is a 
small VoiceOver bug that, in essence, is of no real consequence, at this 
point.

9.
Select the “Get Started” Button.

10.
Select “Speak Text” by performing either the VO split Tap or the VO pass 
through gesture.  This will both select and open the first level of options 
to the Speak Text function.

11.
Place VO focus on the line that VO reads as “Speak Text”.

12.
Single-finger, swipe up until you hear “Edit text,” and select this option. 
 The edit field for the “Speak Text” function will open and you can either 
use the keyboard or dictation, to type the text that the TTS engine will 
announce. For example, “Mark, you devilishly handsome guy, the battery 
level has fallen below 50 percent.”

13.
Select the Done button located just above the on-screen keyboard, on the 
right side of the display.

14.
Test the announcement by selection the “Run this Shortcut” button, located 
near the bottom right corner of the display.

15.
Finally, select the Done button, located near the top right corner of the 
display.

16.
Close the Shortcuts app.

That’s all there is to it.  The next time the battery level falls below the 
percentage you designated, it will be automatically announced,outloud.

Mark

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Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their
respective latest versions of the OS.

I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect
of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet
encountered a bug.

And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid
job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes,
dare I say it, even TV OS.

I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10.  Again, I can not
find a bug.

In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've
used since the feature was introduced many years ago.

I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest
OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS.

However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced,
when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved.

Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2.  I am
running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max.

Before installing the OS I:

1.
Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest
version of iTunes.

2.
Backed up the device to iCloud.

3.
Closed every app via the App Switcher.

4.
Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network.

5.
Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network.

6.
Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes.  This
insures that the device has full acquisition of the network.

7.
Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air).

Mark


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RE: doing signatures on iPad when signing up something or ensure thing

[Star Gazer]

Exacctly this, I've had the same issue and I don't know 
why I can't do it with voiceover, I don't need to see it, I just need to be in 
the right place so I can then submit, the machine doesn't need to know or care, 
and there's no reason voiceover can't be made to work with this. Major pain in 
the behind. 
Anybody submitted this to Apple? And, thank you too on a personal level, I had 
this issue all the time with my kid's preschool and NFB told me I had to "learn 
to do it" and I didn't think that was doable. School was wonderful, NFB 
absolutely useless when I called to ask how to solve this problem or if they 
wanted to talk to Apple and maybe even litigate. Nope. 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brent 
Harding
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 11:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: doing signatures on iPad when signing up something or ensure thing

Even on my phone, the second one was hard, as I needed to do it for a job app. 
The trackpad on the computer method wouldn't go because you can't get focus to 
the box you are supposed to sign. I ended up doing explore by touch, tapping 
the power button three times to turn VO off and then tried to draw my 
signature, which probably came out worse than ever, but it let me submit. I 
really don't know a great accommodation for something like this, especially if 
one ever has to do mouse signing which really doesn't work. I hate to be one of 
the bearers of bad news, but something like DocuSign should work, but the ones 
where you need to physically sign like UPS or FedEx do these days is hard at 
best without help.


-Original Message-
From: '鍾 智明' via VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 9:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: doing signatures on IPad when signing up something or ensuren thing

Got it! Thanks.  
Ming
Skype: chungchiming9950


> Sieghard Weitzel 於2023年12月8日 上午2:08寫道：
> 
> You have to be a lot more specific than this. If you are talking about 
> signing digital documents where something like DocuSign is used then yes, 
> it's usually fine.
> If you think you can simply sign your name on the touch screen on a PDF 
> document or anything like that then no, that is not possible.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Ming' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 7:13 AM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: doing signatures on IPad when signing up something or ensuren thing
> 
> hey! all,
> when doing or signing signatures,
> can we do it with voice over when using IPad?
> or can it turn on voice over to do it?
> 
> 
> Ming
> 
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RE: doing signatures on iPad when signing up something or ensure thing

[Brent Harding]

Even on my phone, the second one was hard, as I needed to do it for a job app. 
The trackpad on the computer method wouldn't go because you can't get focus to 
the box you are supposed to sign. I ended up doing explore by touch, tapping 
the power button three times to turn VO off and then tried to draw my 
signature, which probably came out worse than ever, but it let me submit. I 
really don't know a great accommodation for something like this, especially if 
one ever has to do mouse signing which really doesn't work. I hate to be one of 
the bearers of bad news, but something like DocuSign should work, but the ones 
where you need to physically sign like UPS or FedEx do these days is hard at 
best without help.


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Subject: Re: doing signatures on IPad when signing up something or ensuren thing

Got it! Thanks.  
Ming
Skype: chungchiming9950


> Sieghard Weitzel 於2023年12月8日 上午2:08寫道：
> 
> You have to be a lot more specific than this. If you are talking about 
> signing digital documents where something like DocuSign is used then yes, 
> it's usually fine.
> If you think you can simply sign your name on the touch screen on a PDF 
> document or anything like that then no, that is not possible.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Ming' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 7:13 AM
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> Subject: doing signatures on IPad when signing up something or ensuren thing
> 
> hey! all,
> when doing or signing signatures,
> can we do it with voice over when using IPad?
> or can it turn on voice over to do it?
> 
> 
> Ming
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Got it! Thanks.  
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> Sieghard Weitzel 於2023年12月8日 上午2:08寫道：
> 
> You have to be a lot more specific than this. If you are talking about 
> signing digital documents where something like DocuSign is used then yes, 
> it's usually fine.
> If you think you can simply sign your name on the touch screen on a PDF 
> document or anything like that then no, that is not possible.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Ming' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 7:13 AM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: doing signatures on IPad when signing up something or ensuren thing
> 
> hey! all,
> when doing or signing signatures,
> can we do it with voice over when using IPad?
> or can it turn on voice over to do it?
> 
> 
> Ming
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RE: getting started with an iPad

[paekstrand]

The main thing I find helpful when using an iPad is the Containers function 
which you can add to the rotor.  As Richard points out, the main topics, as in 
Settings, are on one side of the screen and the items under the main headings 
are on the other side.  To navigate from the items within a particular heading, 
use the Containers function.  

 

I have not used a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPad.

 

Pam

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 4:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with an iPad

 

The first thing I had to sort out is that the iPad presents things in columns 
in places like music, settings, and on the web. 

In settings, you will find the categories along the left side. Which ever one 
is selected, the things in that category will be on the right side of the iPad. 
In music, if you are looking by albums, the one selected on the left will have 
its tracks etc., on the right. 

There are keyboard commands to halp navigate it which I believe I included in 
my cheat-sheet for iOS keyboard commands on my web site. 

Under settings, general I think it is, or perhapss you will need to search for 
the setting that prevents it from using a split keyboard on the touch screen. 
Someone who regularly uses an iPad could chime in and help. I don't have one at 
this time. Iam going from memory when I had to teach them at work. 

I hope that helps, at least a little. My web site is below in my signature. 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 









On Dec 7, 2023, at 1:13 PM, Donald Raikes mailto:don.rai...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

I have been using voiceOver on my iPhone for years.  In February 2024,
I need to give a "getting started with voiceOver on an iPad"
presentation at work.

I have a 7th generation iPad with a bluetooth keyboard included in a
logitech case.
I haven't really gotten comfortable with or really ever used the iPad
for much so I need a real quick tutorial on how to use an iPad and
also how to use an iPad with a bluetooth keyboard.

Any tips/links etc would be greatly appreciated.

-- 
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Donald Raikes, CPACC
Accessibility Specialist
IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core
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Re: getting started with an iPad

[Richard Turner]

The first thing I had to sort out is that the iPad presents things in columns 
in places like music, settings, and on the web. 
In settings, you will find the categories along the left side. Which ever one 
is selected, the things in that category will be on the right side of the iPad. 
In music, if you are looking by albums, the one selected on the left will have 
its tracks etc., on the right. 
There are keyboard commands to halp navigate it which I believe I included in 
my cheat-sheet for iOS keyboard commands on my web site. 
Under settings, general I think it is, or perhapss you will need to search for 
the setting that prevents it from using a split keyboard on the touch screen. 
Someone who regularly uses an iPad could chime in and help. I don't have one at 
this time. Iam going from memory when I had to teach them at work. 
I hope that helps, at least a little. My web site is below in my signature. 

Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


> On Dec 7, 2023, at 1:13 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have been using voiceOver on my iPhone for years.  In February 2024,
> I need to give a "getting started with voiceOver on an iPad"
> presentation at work.
> 
> I have a 7th generation iPad with a bluetooth keyboard included in a
> logitech case.
> I haven't really gotten comfortable with or really ever used the iPad
> for much so I need a real quick tutorial on how to use an iPad and
> also how to use an iPad with a bluetooth keyboard.
> 
> Any tips/links etc would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> --
> Sincerely,
> Donald Raikes, CPACC
> Accessibility Specialist
> IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core
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getting started with an iPad

[Donald Raikes]

Hi,

I have been using voiceOver on my iPhone for years.  In February 2024,
I need to give a "getting started with voiceOver on an iPad"
presentation at work.

I have a 7th generation iPad with a bluetooth keyboard included in a
logitech case.
I haven't really gotten comfortable with or really ever used the iPad
for much so I need a real quick tutorial on how to use an iPad and
also how to use an iPad with a bluetooth keyboard.

Any tips/links etc would be greatly appreciated.

-- 
Sincerely,
Donald Raikes, CPACC
Accessibility Specialist
IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core
<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.accessibilityassociation.org/cpacccertification__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!ITXXARxD3iTCnbAoB96JZAdz253IVd2urWYbOsB5MNjTAjmFErX-iqpRl4NrjAo7$>
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RE: doing signatures on IPad when signing up something or ensuren thing

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You have to be a lot more specific than this. If you are talking about signing 
digital documents where something like DocuSign is used then yes, it's usually 
fine.
If you think you can simply sign your name on the touch screen on a PDF 
document or anything like that then no, that is not possible.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 7:13 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: doing signatures on IPad when signing up something or ensuren thing

hey! all,
when doing or signing signatures, 
can we do it with voice over when using IPad?
or can it turn on voice over to do it?


Ming 

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doing signatures on IPad when signing up something or ensuren thing

['Ming' via VIPhone]

hey! all,
when doing or signing signatures, 
can we do it with voice over when using IPad?
or can it turn on voice over to do it?


Ming 

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RE: Portable keyboard for ipad mini 6th gen

[Dennis Long]

I recommend the orbit writer keyboard.
 
From: realman02 via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2023 9:43 PM
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Subject: RE: Portable keyboard for ipad mini 6th gen
 
the Logitech 380 is a good, small keyboard. Here is the Amazon link
 
 
Logitech K380 Multi-Device Bluetooth Keyboard - Windows, Mac, Chrome OS, 
Android, iPad, iPhone, Apple TV Compatible - with Flow Cross-Computer Control 
 
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Subject: Portable keyboard for ipad mini 6th gen
 
All:
I picked up an iPad mini 6th gen 256GB tablet for myself on Thanksgiving. Merry 
Christmas to me! LOL.
I’m loving it.
Since a 14 cell Braille display is currently not in my budget, can anyone 
recommend a portable keyboard that I can use with my new iPad? Something I can 
carry for travel as well. 
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RE: Portable keyboard for ipad mini 6th gen

[Dennis Long]

The Orbit writer is a good keyboard.
 
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I picked up an iPad mini 6th gen 256GB tablet for myself on Thanksgiving. Merry 
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Since a 14 cell Braille display is currently not in my budget, can anyone 
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RE: Portable keyboard for ipad mini 6th gen

[realman02 via VIPhone]

the Logitech 380 is a good, small keyboard. Here is the Amazon link

 

 

Logitech K380 Multi-Device Bluetooth Keyboard - Windows, Mac, Chrome OS, 
Android, iPad, iPhone, Apple TV Compatible - with Flow Cross-Computer Control 

 

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I picked up an iPad mini 6th gen 256GB tablet for myself on Thanksgiving. Merry 
Christmas to me! LOL.

I’m loving it.

Since a 14 cell Braille display is currently not in my budget, can anyone 
recommend a portable keyboard that I can use with my new iPad? Something I can 
carry for travel as well. 

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Portable keyboard for ipad mini 6th gen

[sarai.bucciarelli]

All:

I picked up an iPad mini 6th gen 256GB tablet for myself on Thanksgiving.
Merry Christmas to me! LOL.

I'm loving it.

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recommend a portable keyboard that I can use with my new iPad? Something I
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bTips sought: Reading/watching stuff with iPad in a more comfortable manner?

[Gerardo Corripio]

When my Victor Stream 2nd Generation started hitting the dust, I was fortunate 
to find on sell at Costco here in Mexico, an iPad 9th Generation, which I went 
ahead and grabbed, as a replacement for my Stream; and which I'm really 
loving!; you can definitely do (and adapt it to your needs), more than the 
Stream for one. However one of the pep-pieves of the iPad is it's a bit larger 
than the Stream, or other blindness players, thus I just haven't found a way to 
(especially while in bed), read/watch stuff comfortably with it; it could also 
be while on my Mom's recliner or sofa for reading something. I put it on my 
lap, but after a while, it starts feeling a bit uncomfortable; I then hold it 
between my hands for another little while...
This makes me wonder how to sighted people position their iPads, so that they 
can spend hours and hours using them?
In its time, the NLS Digital Player (before gettingmy first Stream), no 
problem! I just leave the player on my computer table and listen to it that 
way!, but the iPad, even though I could do the same, I'd like it to be a 
portable device! So any tips.tricks for those of you'll who have iPads, would 
be welcome.'

Gera
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Re: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad

[Mary Otten]

No. I’m not talking about videos in the Photos app. I have no videos in my 
Photos app, just a very few photos. I’m talking about audible books being 
mistakenly identified as videos when you are in settings and go to the media 
type thing, view downloaded Videos I think it says. I can’t remember. It’s the 
thing that richard talked about how to go and find your videos. It’s also what 
Gerardo mentioned in a previous note where he said that he had audible books 
miss identified as videos. Hope that clarifies.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2023, at 9:30 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Are you talking about videos showing up in the Photos app? If so then I 
> don't have a single Audible book among them.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 1:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad
> 
> Well, that might be true. I looked in Audible just at the downloaded books. 
> And there are 12 of them, although when I looked at the end in settings under 
> that viewing the audios thing that you mentioned before, I only saw eight. 
> And I didn’t see a more or next button. So you could be right which raises 
> the question: since I have a lot more audiobooks downloaded elsewhere on an 
> iPhone, why aren’t they seen as videos? Very bizarre.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I wonder if the .jpg file that is the cover of the book with Audible books 
>> is confusing iOS. Makes no sense.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> ——
>> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John
>> Wesley (Sent from my iPhone)
>> 
>>>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:43 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, when I did find that thing for all downloaded audios and videos, I 
>>> saw eight of them. They were all audible books, and they all said watched 
>>> or partially watched or not watched, implying, as Gerardo said, that the 
>>> damn thing thinks their videos. So there are eight audiobooks from audible. 
>>> Of course I have more than eight audible books on my iPad, so where are the 
>>> other ones? What about all the bar books they are also audio. I don’t get 
>>> it. Oh well I guess it’s just a big mystery.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mary,
>>>> One thing to try is to open the Photos app, and select the albums tab.
>>>> There is a heading called Media Types.  Perhaps it will identify videos.  
>>>> If not, then check further under General, iPhone Storage.
>>>> If you keep flicking right through the iPhone storage, you eventually come 
>>>> to a couple things that may help, review large attachments, and review 
>>>> downloaded videos and audios.
>>>> It is less than an efficient way to find stuff.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
>>>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in
>>>> the Universe
>>>> 
>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>> Of Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:46 AM
>>>> To: via VIPhone 
>>>> Subject: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> I have an iPad mini, and to the best of my knowledge, I never download 
>>>> videos. I have none on my iPhone. Yet for the longest time now, whenever I 
>>>> go to check the amount of storage being used on my device, it tells me I 
>>>> have 12 videos. I would love to find them and get rid of them since I 
>>>> don’t want them, but I have not been able to figure out how to do that. 
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Are you talking about videos showing up in the Photos app? If so then I don't 
have a single Audible book among them.

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Otten
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Subject: Re: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad

Well, that might be true. I looked in Audible just at the downloaded books. And 
there are 12 of them, although when I looked at the end in settings under that 
viewing the audios thing that you mentioned before, I only saw eight. And I 
didn’t see a more or next button. So you could be right which raises the 
question: since I have a lot more audiobooks downloaded elsewhere on an iPhone, 
why aren’t they seen as videos? Very bizarre.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I wonder if the .jpg file that is the cover of the book with Audible books 
> is confusing iOS. Makes no sense.
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> ——
> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John 
> Wesley (Sent from my iPhone)
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:43 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, when I did find that thing for all downloaded audios and videos, I 
>> saw eight of them. They were all audible books, and they all said watched or 
>> partially watched or not watched, implying, as Gerardo said, that the damn 
>> thing thinks their videos. So there are eight audiobooks from audible. Of 
>> course I have more than eight audible books on my iPad, so where are the 
>> other ones? What about all the bar books they are also audio. I don’t get 
>> it. Oh well I guess it’s just a big mystery.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> One thing to try is to open the Photos app, and select the albums tab.
>>> There is a heading called Media Types.  Perhaps it will identify videos.  
>>> If not, then check further under General, iPhone Storage.
>>> If you keep flicking right through the iPhone storage, you eventually come 
>>> to a couple things that may help, review large attachments, and review 
>>> downloaded videos and audios.
>>> It is less than an efficient way to find stuff.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>>> the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:46 AM
>>> To: via VIPhone 
>>> Subject: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> I have an iPad mini, and to the best of my knowledge, I never download 
>>> videos. I have none on my iPhone. Yet for the longest time now, whenever I 
>>> go to check the amount of storage being used on my device, it tells me I 
>>> have 12 videos. I would love to find them and get rid of them since I don’t 
>>> want them, but I have not been able to figure out how to do that. Any ideas?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad

[Richard Turner]

What a puzzle. I'm not even sure Apple could explain it. At least you can be 
sure they aren't videos. 

Richard, USA 
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(Sent from my iPhone)

> On Oct 31, 2023, at 1:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Well, that might be true. I looked in Audible just at the downloaded books. 
> And there are 12 of them, although when I looked at the end in settings under 
> that viewing the audios thing that you mentioned before, I only saw eight. 
> And I didn’t see a more or next button. So you could be right which raises 
> the question: since I have a lot more audiobooks downloaded elsewhere on an 
> iPhone, why aren’t they seen as videos? Very bizarre.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I wonder if the .jpg file that is the cover of the book with Audible books 
>> is confusing iOS. Makes no sense.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> ——
>> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>> 
>>>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:43 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, when I did find that thing for all downloaded audios and videos, I 
>>> saw eight of them. They were all audible books, and they all said watched 
>>> or partially watched or not watched, implying, as Gerardo said, that the 
>>> damn thing thinks their videos. So there are eight audiobooks from audible. 
>>> Of course I have more than eight audible books on my iPad, so where are the 
>>> other ones? What about all the bar books they are also audio. I don’t get 
>>> it. Oh well I guess it’s just a big mystery.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mary,
>>>> One thing to try is to open the Photos app, and select the albums tab.
>>>> There is a heading called Media Types.  Perhaps it will identify videos.  
>>>> If not, then check further under General, iPhone Storage.
>>>> If you keep flicking right through the iPhone storage, you eventually come 
>>>> to a couple things that may help, review large attachments, and review 
>>>> downloaded videos and audios.
>>>> It is less than an efficient way to find stuff.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>> 
>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:46 AM
>>>> To: via VIPhone 
>>>> Subject: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> I have an iPad mini, and to the best of my knowledge, I never download 
>>>> videos. I have none on my iPhone. Yet for the longest time now, whenever I 
>>>> go to check the amount of storage being used on my device, it tells me I 
>>>> have 12 videos. I would love to find them and get rid of them since I 
>>>> don’t want them, but I have not been able to figure out how to do that. 
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad

[Mary Otten]

Well, that might be true. I looked in Audible just at the downloaded books. And 
there are 12 of them, although when I looked at the end in settings under that 
viewing the audios thing that you mentioned before, I only saw eight. And I 
didn’t see a more or next button. So you could be right which raises the 
question: since I have a lot more audiobooks downloaded elsewhere on an iPhone, 
why aren’t they seen as videos? Very bizarre.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I wonder if the .jpg file that is the cover of the book with Audible books 
> is confusing iOS. Makes no sense.
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> ——
> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
> (Sent from my iPhone)
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:43 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, when I did find that thing for all downloaded audios and videos, I 
>> saw eight of them. They were all audible books, and they all said watched or 
>> partially watched or not watched, implying, as Gerardo said, that the damn 
>> thing thinks their videos. So there are eight audiobooks from audible. Of 
>> course I have more than eight audible books on my iPad, so where are the 
>> other ones? What about all the bar books they are also audio. I don’t get 
>> it. Oh well I guess it’s just a big mystery.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> One thing to try is to open the Photos app, and select the albums tab.
>>> There is a heading called Media Types.  Perhaps it will identify videos.  
>>> If not, then check further under General, iPhone Storage.
>>> If you keep flicking right through the iPhone storage, you eventually come 
>>> to a couple things that may help, review large attachments, and review 
>>> downloaded videos and audios.
>>> It is less than an efficient way to find stuff.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:46 AM
>>> To: via VIPhone 
>>> Subject: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> I have an iPad mini, and to the best of my knowledge, I never download 
>>> videos. I have none on my iPhone. Yet for the longest time now, whenever I 
>>> go to check the amount of storage being used on my device, it tells me I 
>>> have 12 videos. I would love to find them and get rid of them since I don’t 
>>> want them, but I have not been able to figure out how to do that. Any ideas?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad

[Richard Turner]

I wonder if the .jpg file that is the cover of the book with Audible books is 
confusing iOS. Makes no sense. 


Richard, USA 
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)

> On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:43 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Well, when I did find that thing for all downloaded audios and videos, I saw 
> eight of them. They were all audible books, and they all said watched or 
> partially watched or not watched, implying, as Gerardo said, that the damn 
> thing thinks their videos. So there are eight audiobooks from audible. Of 
> course I have more than eight audible books on my iPad, so where are the 
> other ones? What about all the bar books they are also audio. I don’t get it. 
> Oh well I guess it’s just a big mystery.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> One thing to try is to open the Photos app, and select the albums tab.
>> There is a heading called Media Types.  Perhaps it will identify videos.  If 
>> not, then check further under General, iPhone Storage.
>> If you keep flicking right through the iPhone storage, you eventually come 
>> to a couple things that may help, review large attachments, and review 
>> downloaded videos and audios.
>> It is less than an efficient way to find stuff.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:46 AM
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>> Subject: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I have an iPad mini, and to the best of my knowledge, I never download 
>> videos. I have none on my iPhone. Yet for the longest time now, whenever I 
>> go to check the amount of storage being used on my device, it tells me I 
>> have 12 videos. I would love to find them and get rid of them since I don’t 
>> want them, but I have not been able to figure out how to do that. Any ideas?
>> Mary
>> 
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Re: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad

[Mary Otten]

Well, when I did find that thing for all downloaded audios and videos, I saw 
eight of them. They were all audible books, and they all said watched or 
partially watched or not watched, implying, as Gerardo said, that the damn 
thing thinks their videos. So there are eight audiobooks from audible. Of 
course I have more than eight audible books on my iPad, so where are the other 
ones? What about all the bar books they are also audio. I don’t get it. Oh well 
I guess it’s just a big mystery. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2023, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> One thing to try is to open the Photos app, and select the albums tab.
> There is a heading called Media Types.  Perhaps it will identify videos.  If 
> not, then check further under General, iPhone Storage.
> If you keep flicking right through the iPhone storage, you eventually come to 
> a couple things that may help, review large attachments, and review 
> downloaded videos and audios.
> It is less than an efficient way to find stuff.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:46 AM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad
> 
> Hi folks,
> I have an iPad mini, and to the best of my knowledge, I never download 
> videos. I have none on my iPhone. Yet for the longest time now, whenever I go 
> to check the amount of storage being used on my device, it tells me I have 12 
> videos. I would love to find them and get rid of them since I don’t want 
> them, but I have not been able to figure out how to do that. Any ideas?
> Mary
> 
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Re: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad

[Mary Otten]

I certainly have audiobooks downloaded, but also on my phone, where I have no 
videos noted in the “about “section. It’s a definite head scratcher.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Check if you've got any Audible titles downloaded? For some weird reason, 
> iOS thinks they're videos,r than Audiobooks. Good luck!
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
>> El 31 oct 2023, a la(s) 9:46 a.m., Mary Otten  escribió:
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I have an iPad mini, and to the best of my knowledge, I never download 
>> videos. I have none on my iPhone. Yet for the longest time now, whenever I 
>> go to check the amount of storage being used on my device, it tells me I 
>> have 12 videos. I would love to find them and get rid of them since I don’t 
>> want them, but I have not been able to figure out how to do that. Any ideas?
>> Mary
>> 
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RE: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Maybe Apple Accessibility can help to locate them?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:46 AM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad

Hi folks,
I have an iPad mini, and to the best of my knowledge, I never download videos. 
I have none on my iPhone. Yet for the longest time now, whenever I go to check 
the amount of storage being used on my device, it tells me I have 12 videos. I 
would love to find them and get rid of them since I don’t want them, but I have 
not been able to figure out how to do that. Any ideas?
Mary

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Re: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad

[Gerardo Corripio]

Check if you've got any Audible titles downloaded? For some weird reason, iOS 
thinks they're videos,r than Audiobooks. Good luck!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 31 oct 2023, a la(s) 9:46 a.m., Mary Otten  escribió:
> 
> Hi folks,
> I have an iPad mini, and to the best of my knowledge, I never download 
> videos. I have none on my iPhone. Yet for the longest time now, whenever I go 
> to check the amount of storage being used on my device, it tells me I have 12 
> videos. I would love to find them and get rid of them since I don’t want 
> them, but I have not been able to figure out how to do that. Any ideas?
> Mary
> 
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RE: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad

[Richard Turner]

Mary,
One thing to try is to open the Photos app, and select the albums tab.
There is a heading called Media Types.  Perhaps it will identify videos.  If 
not, then check further under General, iPhone Storage.
If you keep flicking right through the iPhone storage, you eventually come to a 
couple things that may help, review large attachments, and review downloaded 
videos and audios.
It is less than an efficient way to find stuff.

HTH,



Richard, USA.
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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

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Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:46 AM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad

Hi folks,
I have an iPad mini, and to the best of my knowledge, I never download videos. 
I have none on my iPhone. Yet for the longest time now, whenever I go to check 
the amount of storage being used on my device, it tells me I have 12 videos. I 
would love to find them and get rid of them since I don’t want them, but I have 
not been able to figure out how to do that. Any ideas?
Mary

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How to find the videos that are supposedly on my iPad

[Mary Otten]

Hi folks,
I have an iPad mini, and to the best of my knowledge, I never download videos. 
I have none on my iPhone. Yet for the longest time now, whenever I go to check 
the amount of storage being used on my device, it tells me I have 12 videos. I 
would love to find them and get rid of them since I don’t want them, but I have 
not been able to figure out how to do that. Any ideas?
Mary

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Re: How do I lock the orientation of my Ipad?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Or (independent if it’s without or with a HOme Button), focus on where you have 
the time, battery nd others, and swipe 3 fingers up (instead of down for the 
NOtification Center). Good luck!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 21 oct 2023, a la(s) 7:36 a.m., Matt White  escribió:
> 
> You are looking at the settings panel for the control center, you need the 
> actual control center.
> If it’s a newer device without a home button, you can pull down from the top 
> of the screen, two clicks, instead of three like you do for notifications.
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 21, 2023, at 09:29, realman02 via VIPhone  
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>> 
>> Somehow the orientation (portrait) of my Ipad got unlocked and shifts from 
>> Portrait to Landscape. I looked on google and saw info purportedly telling 
>> me how to fix this by going into Control Center and locking the orientation. 
>> I've gone into Control Center under Settings on both my Ipad and Iphone and 
>> I don't see any such setting to change. How do I lock my Ipad in portrait 
>> mode?
>> Thanks John
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Re: How do I lock the orientation of my Ipad?

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You are looking at the settings panel for the control center, you need the 
actual control center.
If it’s a newer device without a home button, you can pull down from the top of 
the screen, two clicks, instead of three like you do for notifications.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2023, at 09:29, realman02 via VIPhone  
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> Somehow the orientation (portrait) of my Ipad got unlocked and shifts from 
> Portrait to Landscape. I looked on google and saw info purportedly telling me 
> how to fix this by going into Control Center and locking the orientation. 
> I've gone into Control Center under Settings on both my Ipad and Iphone and I 
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How do I lock the orientation of my Ipad?

[realman02 via VIPhone]

Somehow the orientation (portrait) of my Ipad got unlocked and shifts from 
Portrait to Landscape. I looked on google and saw info purportedly telling me 
how to fix this by going into Control Center and locking the orientation. I've 
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Battery Widget for both iPhone And iPad?

[Gerardo Corripio]

How would I create a battery widget (like what size or with what 
characteristics), so that if I'm on my iPhone, I could not only see how much 
battery remains on my iPhone, but on my iPad as well? And the other way around: 
when I'm on my iPad, i could see not only my iPad's battery charge premaining, 
but also see my iPhone's remaining battery status? Both devices are under the 
same Apple account.
Thanks in advance for info.
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RE: bug to shut-down ipad with physical keys

[davycuppens]

Sieghard 

My mistake, volume-up and volume-down and the power button, this is the case on 
my iphone XR but for newer devices it seems that it has been changed to only 
volume-up +powerkey en this eventually works here, so topic closed.
Davy 

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Onderwerp: RE: bug to shut-down ipad with physical keys

According to all I can find online this has not changed and volume up + side 
butgton certainly still works on my iPhone.
Maybe after a restart all will be back to normal and you have two alternatives:
1. Settings > General > Shutdown
2. Tell Siri "Turn off iPad" or "Power off"

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Hi folks 

Ios17.01 volume-up+down followed by the power or side key does nolonger work; 
it simply locks the screen or in case of long press bring up siri.
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RE: bug to shut-down ipad with physical keys

[Sieghard Weitzel]

According to all I can find online this has not changed and volume up + side 
butgton certainly still works on my iPhone.
Maybe after a restart all will be back to normal and you have two alternatives:
1. Settings > General > Shutdown
2. Tell Siri "Turn off iPad" or "Power off"

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Hi folks 

Ios17.01 volume-up+down followed by the power or side key does nolonger work; 
it simply locks the screen or in case of long press bring up siri.
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Re: bug to shut-down ipad with physical keys

[William James]

If you have the iPad with no home button, you turn it off by pressing the power 
button and volume up button at the same time and hold them down until you hear 
the iPad say Power Off.  Let go and choose power off on the screen.  To turn it 
back on, hold down the power button for five seconds.

Hope this helps.


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Hi folks

Ios17.01 volume-up+down followed by the power or side key does nolonger
work; it simply locks the screen or in case of long press bring up siri.
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bug to shut-down ipad with physical keys

[davycuppens]

Hi folks 

Ios17.01 volume-up+down followed by the power or side key does nolonger
work; it simply locks the screen or in case of long press bring up siri.
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Finding downloaded videos on my iPad mini

[Mary Otten]

Somehow, I have managed to get a few videos on my iPad mini. This is according 
to the listing that shows up when you go into settings and then hit about. It 
tells you how many songs you have, how many apps, etc. And one of the things it 
says is that I have 12 videos. I do not want any videos, and I don’t know how 
to go about finding them so I can get rid of them. I have no videos on my 
Phone, so I’m really not at all sure how I managed to get 12 videos onto my 
iPad. Anyway, if somebody has a clue how I can find and nuke these suckers, 
that would be great.
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RE: weird keyboard issue on my ipad 2020 pro and VO+m hotkeys

[davycuppens]

Thanx fort hat, but that is all set in the right way I am using an azerty 
Belgian keyboard and on my iphone it works like it should do. This is not the 
solution.

Davy 

 

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Verzonden: woensdag 23 augustus 2023 20:09
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Onderwerp: Re: weird keyboard issue on my ipad 2020 pro and VO+m hotkeys

 

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252021262 

Maybe this could help.

On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 12:38:17 PM UTC-5 davyc...@gmail.com 
<mailto:davyc...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Dear all 

I am very confused. 

I like it to work with the VO commands and I cannot use the letter M in 
combination to ctrl+option as I type this keystroke, the M changes into 
semi-colon. 

I explain: I want to go to the status bar typing VO+M that brings up a 
dialog: lock or unlock special keys. 

I have already paired another keyboard with my ipad. 
I did control all of my settings which are totally normal. 
I typed VO+A tob ring up the help section and there press VO+M but help says 
VO+Semi-colon. 

With my iphone XR on the same Appleid, those things are behaving normally as 
it should and I can jump tot he status bar typing VO+m and even option+up or 
down to go tot he control center or message center. 

My Ipad has an Apple smart folio keyboard but even if I connect a third 
party keyboard the same issue occurs. 
Regards 
Davy 

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Re: weird keyboard issue on my ipad 2020 pro and VO+m hotkeys

[ivan harold]

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252021262 
Maybe this could help.

On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 12:38:17 PM UTC-5 davyc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Dear all 
>
> I am very confused. 
>
> I like it to work with the VO commands and I cannot use the letter M in
> combination to ctrl+option as I type this keystroke, the M changes into
> semi-colon.
>
> I explain: I want to go to the status bar typing VO+M that brings up a
> dialog: lock or unlock special keys. 
>
> I have already paired another keyboard with my ipad. 
> I did control all of my settings which are totally normal.
> I typed VO+A tob ring up the help section and there press VO+M but help 
> says
> VO+Semi-colon.
>
> With my iphone XR on the same Appleid, those things are behaving normally 
> as
> it should and I can jump tot he status bar typing VO+m and even option+up 
> or
> down to go tot he control center or message center.
>
> My Ipad has an Apple smart folio keyboard but even if I connect a third
> party keyboard the same issue occurs.
> Regards
> Davy 
>
>

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weird keyboard issue on my ipad 2020 pro and VO+m hotkeys

[davycuppens]

Dear all 

I am very confused. 

I like it to work with the VO commands and I cannot use the letter M in
combination to ctrl+option as I type this keystroke, the M changes into
semi-colon.

I explain: I want to go to the status bar typing VO+M that brings up a
dialog: lock or unlock special keys. 

I have already paired another keyboard with my ipad. 
I did control all of my settings which are totally normal.
I typed VO+A tob ring up the help section and there press VO+M but help says
VO+Semi-colon.

With my iphone XR on the same Appleid, those things are behaving normally as
it should and I can jump tot he status bar typing VO+m and even option+up or
down to go tot he control center or message center.

My Ipad has an Apple smart folio keyboard but even if I connect a third
party keyboard the same issue occurs.
Regards
Davy 

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RE: IPad & moving quickly between Split view and regular view?

[matthew dyer]

Gera,

Are you referring to containers?  VO has an opsion to move between containers 
but not sure if it is in the roater by default or not.  If not containers.  I 
am not sure about split screen as I never use it.

Matthew



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Subject: IPad & moving quickly between Split view and regular view?

I recently got myself an IPad 9th Generation with which I’m having a blast! 
Using it as a replacement victor Reader Stream on hyperdrive! But I’m curious 
if as we Voiceover users can use the features of split screen, in which you can 
have an app on half the screen and another taking up the over half? And what 
gesture is there to quickly invoke this feature, and once done with it, return 
the Ipad to reular view? I’ve tried Youtube in searching for this info, but I 
can’t find any sort of VoiceOver-orientated podcast n how to work this feature. 
Thanks in advance for info on this matter.

Gera
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IPad & moving quickly between Split view and regular view?

[Gerardo Corripio]

I recently got myself an IPad 9th Generation with which I’m having a blast! 
Using it as a replacement victor Reader Stream on hyperdrive! But I’m curious 
if as we Voiceover users can use the features of split screen, in which you can 
have an app on half the screen and another taking up the over half? And what 
gesture is there to quickly invoke this feature, and once done with it, return 
the Ipad to reular view? I’ve tried Youtube in searching for this info, but I 
can’t find any sort of VoiceOver-orientated podcast n how to work this feature. 
Thanks in advance for info on this matter.

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Re: A Question for Veteran iOS, iPAD OS Apple Music App VoiceOver Users

[Tom Rash]

Also on the Echo device you can say, “play my station on Apple Music.  It will 
play the music you added to tor similar music. 

> On Aug 7, 2023, at 4:59 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> After you have added a few songs to your love list, you can ask Siri to play 
> your personal radio station, and she will begin to play music on and around 
> your love list. I call it a love list, but it is probably more like a “Like” 
> list. It is a little different from Amazon you are right, and I haven’t tried 
> to create smart play lists on my devices, because I just use the personal 
> radio station thing.
> 
> Hope this gives a little feedback,
> 
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi 
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2023, at 2:21 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I have been an Amazon Music subscriber for about 2 years, now.  When a song
>> is playing on any Alexa enabled device, I can say, "Alexa, I like this."
>> Alexa will reply with something like, "OK, Mark, got it."  
>> 
>> Later, when I open the Amazon Music app on any device, there is an
>> automatically generated play list called something like "Mark's Favorites."
>> 
>> 
>> I have come to use this feature a great deal and, apparently, have begun
>> taking it for granted.
>> 
>> Now, as part of my Apple One subscription, I have started using my Apple
>> Music app on both my iPhone and iPad.
>> 
>> For the past few days, when various songs were playing, I said, "Siri, I
>> like this."  Just like Alexa, Siri responds with, "got it."  Upon hearing
>> this, I foolishly assumed that, like Alexa, some kind of playlist or station
>> would be populated with a list of the songs I specifically liked, during
>> playback.  Wrong, wrong, wrong
>> 
>> Wow!
>> 
>> After conducting some extremely unsatisfying searches on the net, from what
>> I can tell, no automatically generated playlist is created by Siri.  Then, I
>> read that one can tell Siri to add the currently playing song to a specific
>> playlist.
>> 
>> Then, I read that one can create smart playlists that, in effect, mimic the
>> functionality of Alexa.
>> 
>> Imagine my surprise when I discovered that one cannot create smart playlists
>> via the Apple Music app on iPhone or iPad?  Question: is this true???  If
>> so, it is crazy!!!
>> 
>> So, I am posting this in hopes that someone will correct the info I have
>> obtained or confirming it.  And no, I do not want to create a shortcut in
>> order to create / manipulate playlists.
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: A Question for Veteran iOS, iPAD OS Apple Music App VoiceOver Users

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Mark,

After you have added a few songs to your love list, you can ask Siri to play 
your personal radio station, and she will begin to play music on and around 
your love list. I call it a love list, but it is probably more like a “Like” 
list. It is a little different from Amazon you are right, and I haven’t tried 
to create smart play lists on my devices, because I just use the personal radio 
station thing.

Hope this gives a little feedback,

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi   

> On Aug 6, 2023, at 2:21 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have been an Amazon Music subscriber for about 2 years, now.  When a song
> is playing on any Alexa enabled device, I can say, "Alexa, I like this."
> Alexa will reply with something like, "OK, Mark, got it."  
> 
> Later, when I open the Amazon Music app on any device, there is an
> automatically generated play list called something like "Mark's Favorites."
> 
> 
> I have come to use this feature a great deal and, apparently, have begun
> taking it for granted.
> 
> Now, as part of my Apple One subscription, I have started using my Apple
> Music app on both my iPhone and iPad.
> 
> For the past few days, when various songs were playing, I said, "Siri, I
> like this."  Just like Alexa, Siri responds with, "got it."  Upon hearing
> this, I foolishly assumed that, like Alexa, some kind of playlist or station
> would be populated with a list of the songs I specifically liked, during
> playback.  Wrong, wrong, wrong
> 
> Wow!
> 
> After conducting some extremely unsatisfying searches on the net, from what
> I can tell, no automatically generated playlist is created by Siri.  Then, I
> read that one can tell Siri to add the currently playing song to a specific
> playlist.
> 
> Then, I read that one can create smart playlists that, in effect, mimic the
> functionality of Alexa.
> 
> Imagine my surprise when I discovered that one cannot create smart playlists
> via the Apple Music app on iPhone or iPad?  Question: is this true???  If
> so, it is crazy!!!
> 
> So, I am posting this in hopes that someone will correct the info I have
> obtained or confirming it.  And no, I do not want to create a shortcut in
> order to create / manipulate playlists.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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A Question for Veteran iOS, iPAD OS Apple Music App VoiceOver Users

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I have been an Amazon Music subscriber for about 2 years, now.  When a song
is playing on any Alexa enabled device, I can say, "Alexa, I like this."
Alexa will reply with something like, "OK, Mark, got it."  

Later, when I open the Amazon Music app on any device, there is an
automatically generated play list called something like "Mark's Favorites."


I have come to use this feature a great deal and, apparently, have begun
taking it for granted.

Now, as part of my Apple One subscription, I have started using my Apple
Music app on both my iPhone and iPad.

For the past few days, when various songs were playing, I said, "Siri, I
like this."  Just like Alexa, Siri responds with, "got it."  Upon hearing
this, I foolishly assumed that, like Alexa, some kind of playlist or station
would be populated with a list of the songs I specifically liked, during
playback.  Wrong, wrong, wrong

Wow!

After conducting some extremely unsatisfying searches on the net, from what
I can tell, no automatically generated playlist is created by Siri.  Then, I
read that one can tell Siri to add the currently playing song to a specific
playlist.

Then, I read that one can create smart playlists that, in effect, mimic the
functionality of Alexa.

Imagine my surprise when I discovered that one cannot create smart playlists
via the Apple Music app on iPhone or iPad?  Question: is this true???  If
so, it is crazy!!!

So, I am posting this in hopes that someone will correct the info I have
obtained or confirming it.  And no, I do not want to create a shortcut in
order to create / manipulate playlists.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: Google meet on an iPad?

[Dennis Long]

If you choose to login without a account people that have just your number can 
find you.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2023 9:15 PM
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Subject: RE: Google meet on an iPad?

I assume using your Google account will let Google Meet access other 
information you've stored in your Google account, such as your contacts, your 
name and so on.

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Weitzel
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Subject: RE: Google meet on an iPad?

I am not sure about this, I logged in with my Google account because it is 
"Google Meet" so one would expect that you get the best experience by logging 
in with a Google account.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Google meet on an iPad?

Thanks. I downloaded the app and put it on my iPad. It gives me a choice of 
logging in with a Google email address or logging in not attached to any 
account. Any idea what the difference is? What advantage is there to logging in 
under my Google address? I’m tempted to suppose it wouldn’t matter, or it would 
be better to not connect it with my Google.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 14, 2023, at 7:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> Perfectly accessible the last time I used it.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Google meet on an iPad?
>
> I have never used Google meet and I really don’t want to. But I’m in a small 
> group that is trying to contact some Ukrainians that we are trying to sponsor 
> to come here. They’re going to try zoom first. But if that doesn’t go 
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> used it?
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RE: Google meet on an iPad?

[Christopher Chaltain]

I assume using your Google account will let Google Meet access other 
information you've stored in your Google account, such as your contacts, your 
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-Original Message-
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Subject: RE: Google meet on an iPad?

I am not sure about this, I logged in with my Google account because it is 
"Google Meet" so one would expect that you get the best experience by logging 
in with a Google account.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2023 9:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Google meet on an iPad?

Thanks. I downloaded the app and put it on my iPad. It gives me a choice of 
logging in with a Google email address or logging in not attached to any 
account. Any idea what the difference is? What advantage is there to logging in 
under my Google address? I’m tempted to suppose it wouldn’t matter, or it would 
be better to not connect it with my Google.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 14, 2023, at 7:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> Perfectly accessible the last time I used it.
>
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> Subject: Google meet on an iPad?
>
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> group that is trying to contact some Ukrainians that we are trying to sponsor 
> to come here. They’re going to try zoom first. But if that doesn’t go 
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> used it?
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RE: Google meet on an iPad?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I am not sure about this, I logged in with my Google account because it is 
"Google Meet" so one would expect that you get the best experience by logging 
in with a Google account.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Google meet on an iPad?

Thanks. I downloaded the app and put it on my iPad. It gives me a choice of 
logging in with a Google email address or logging in not attached to any 
account. Any idea what the difference is? What advantage is there to logging in 
under my Google address? I’m tempted to suppose it wouldn’t matter, or it would 
be better to not connect it with my Google.


Sent from my iPhone

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> Perfectly accessible the last time I used it.
> 
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> 
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> group that is trying to contact some Ukrainians that we are trying to sponsor 
> to come here. They’re going to try zoom first. But if that doesn’t go 
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Re: Google meet on an iPad?

[Mary Otten]

Thanks. I downloaded the app and put it on my iPad. It gives me a choice of 
logging in with a Google email address or logging in not attached to any 
account. Any idea what the difference is? What advantage is there to logging in 
under my Google address? I’m tempted to suppose it wouldn’t matter, or it would 
be better to not connect it with my Google.


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> Perfectly accessible the last time I used it.
> 
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RE: Google meet on an iPad?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Perfectly accessible the last time I used it.

-Original Message-
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Otten
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To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Google meet on an iPad?

I have never used Google meet and I really don’t want to. But I’m in a small 
group that is trying to contact some Ukrainians that we are trying to sponsor 
to come here. They’re going to try zoom first. But if that doesn’t go through, 
it’s Google meet. Is Google meet accessible on an iPad? Has anyone used it?

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Google meet on an iPad?

[Mary Otten]

I have never used Google meet and I really don’t want to. But I’m in a small 
group that is trying to contact some Ukrainians that we are trying to sponsor 
to come here. They’re going to try zoom first. But if that doesn’t go through, 
it’s Google meet. Is Google meet accessible on an iPad? Has anyone used it?

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Mark on iPhone 14 Pro Max Voice Over Gestures and the Kindle App for both iOS and iPad OS, Lately

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

Okay, I know that there have been some threads on VO gestures, recently but
I've kind of gotten lost on who is saying what so, I will share my
experience, within the last 10 days, or so.

On both my 14 Pro Max and my beloved iPAD Pro 10.5 2017, running the latest
OS, in the Kindle app, when on any given page of a title, if I don't touch
the screen just right (whatever that means), let's say to switch to Audible
narration, I will be immediately jumped all the way back to the title's
Table of Contents.  This has happened more than 10 times on either device
and is quite jarring, to say the least.

I suspect this has something to do with the recent updates of the Kindle app
but cannot be certain.  

>From time-to-time, Apple quietly pushes out various fixes for various model
display drivers, security fixes, etc.  No doubt these quiet fixes may effect
VO performance, in some instances.  

I can tell you that a few weeks ago, they pushed out a quiet display driver
update because there was a very subtle difference in how some screen refresh
changes were rendered.

On the morning after the update, two university testing-lab acquaintances
asked if I had noticed the change on my 14.  While I could not have
described the difference I noticed, purse, I did notice that something about
the display rendering felt different.

My point is that we should all keep in mind that not every single change
Apple makes to the OS is publicized; especially where the flagship models
are concerned.

Then again, the problem may be with Amazon and the Kindle app.

For the past 2 days, I have not been able to reproduce the jump problem on
either my 14 Pro Max or my beloved iPad Pro 10.5 2017.

Just something to consider.

Mark


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Re: Can I change my Zoom name on my iPad mini?

[Ron Canazzi]

Hi Group,

As long as we're talking about Zoom on this list/thread, at the risk of 
somewhat hijacking the actual topic, but I am desperate so here goes: I 
sent a message a few weeks ago to this and another Apple list about the 
Zoom program update in March of 2023 wherein since then I cannot tell 
who is speaking after a change in speaker.  I was wondering since I did 
not get any response on either list that maybe no one uses Zoom on the 
iPhone and maybe it works better on the Mac.


So have either of you on this list/thread noticed the difference since 
March and is there a solution and I'm just ignorant of the solution?


Thanks for any help.


On 6/21/2023 4:23 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

Thank you! That did the trick.
Mary


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On Jun 21, 2023, at 12:57 PM, tai.toma...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, you have to log into your Zoom account and ensure the name is set 
properly in your profile.

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Otten
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Subject: Can I change my Zoom name on my iPad mini?

I’ve been on zoom now for a while. I registered with my first and last name 
Wayback win. I know it is possible to change your name on a one time basis 
after you connect, see participants, tap on that, and your name, and you can 
change it. But it doesn’t stick across sessions. So I want to know if it is 
possible to actually change the name so that it shows up all the time when you 
go to a zoom meeting. Any help?
Mary


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Re: Can I change my Zoom name on my iPad mini?

[Mary Otten]

Thank you! That did the trick.
Mary


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> Yes, you have to log into your Zoom account and ensure the name is set 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 3:47 PM
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> Subject: Can I change my Zoom name on my iPad mini?
> 
> I’ve been on zoom now for a while. I registered with my first and last name 
> Wayback win. I know it is possible to change your name on a one time basis 
> after you connect, see participants, tap on that, and your name, and you can 
> change it. But it doesn’t stick across sessions. So I want to know if it is 
> possible to actually change the name so that it shows up all the time when 
> you go to a zoom meeting. Any help?
> Mary
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RE: Can I change my Zoom name on my iPad mini?

[tai.tomasi8]

Yes, you have to log into your Zoom account and ensure the name is set properly 
in your profile.

-Original Message-
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Otten
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 3:47 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Can I change my Zoom name on my iPad mini?

I’ve been on zoom now for a while. I registered with my first and last name 
Wayback win. I know it is possible to change your name on a one time basis 
after you connect, see participants, tap on that, and your name, and you can 
change it. But it doesn’t stick across sessions. So I want to know if it is 
possible to actually change the name so that it shows up all the time when you 
go to a zoom meeting. Any help?
Mary


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Can I change my Zoom name on my iPad mini?

[Mary Otten]

I’ve been on zoom now for a while. I registered with my first and last name 
Wayback win. I know it is possible to change your name on a one time basis 
after you connect, see participants, tap on that, and your name, and you can 
change it. But it doesn’t stick across sessions. So I want to know if it is 
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Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

[Terje Strømberg]

There is an option to configure home screen command if you find it easier.
If you don't like it you can delete the new command and also reset voice
commands to standard and it works like before.
Home commands option: go to ios settings, accessibility, voice over,
commands, all commands, system. Here you hit the home button and you are
inside home commands for touch screen and keyboard.
If you don't find something you like, you can delete it by focus on it and
svipe up and hit delete.
There are an reset all commands button at the tottom of the commands
screen. The first screen after voice over.
Take care



ons. 24. mai 2023 kl. 01:12 skrev Jennie Facer :

> Hi Andy,
>
> What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until you
> feel a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people,
> just without VoiceOver’s clicks.
>
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi
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RE: Looking for a Bluetooth, keyboard case recommendation for latest generation of iPad

[realman02 via VIPhone]

Try the Logitech k811. You can use it with multiple devices; the internal 
battery lasts a long time -- you recharge it with USB and you don't need to 
physically connect it  to the Ipad. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Daniel 
MacDonald
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 5:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for a Bluetooth, keyboard case recommendation for latest 
generation of iPad

hi,

take a look at the Zag Folio keyboard case. it is great, with the iPad 
orientated like a computer screen, at the top, and keyboard at the bottom. the 
battery last for about  three months, and it charged via micro USB. to charge 
the case, the keyboard must be removed, but that is a sympol and 
straightforward process.
regards,
Daniel


> On May 28, 2023, at 5:06 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> My subject pretty much says it all. I am in need of some recommendations for 
> a Bluetooth, keyboard case, for the latest generation of iPad.
> 
> I received an iPad, and I am wanting to get a really good case for it. But I 
> would like to have one that is a keyboard as well. If this is even possible. 
> I have been trying to research what is out there. I see that there are some 
> Apple cases, that are also keyboards. But I want to make sure I get something 
> that's going to be accessible as well.
> 
> Any thoughts, or advice is much appreciated.  This is the regular iPad. I 
> hope that helps. I'm not quite sure how to classify that. But it's not the 
> pro, or the mini. So I figured that made the best sense.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Terri Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Looking for a Bluetooth, keyboard case recommendation for latest generation of iPad

[Daniel MacDonald]

hi,

take a look at the Zag Folio keyboard case. it is great, with the iPad 
orientated like a computer screen, at the top, and keyboard at the bottom. the 
battery last for about  three months, and it charged via micro USB. to charge 
the case, the keyboard must be removed, but that is a sympol and 
straightforward process.
regards,
Daniel


> On May 28, 2023, at 5:06 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> My subject pretty much says it all. I am in need of some recommendations for 
> a Bluetooth, keyboard case, for the latest generation of iPad.
> 
> I received an iPad, and I am wanting to get a really good case for it. But I 
> would like to have one that is a keyboard as well. If this is even possible. 
> I have been trying to research what is out there. I see that there are some 
> Apple cases, that are also keyboards. But I want to make sure I get something 
> that's going to be accessible as well.
> 
> Any thoughts, or advice is much appreciated.  This is the regular iPad. I 
> hope that helps. I'm not quite sure how to classify that. But it's not the 
> pro, or the mini. So I figured that made the best sense.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Terri Sent from my iPhone
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Looking for a Bluetooth, keyboard case recommendation for latest generation of iPad

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,

My subject pretty much says it all. I am in need of some recommendations for a 
Bluetooth, keyboard case, for the latest generation of iPad.

I received an iPad, and I am wanting to get a really good case for it. But I 
would like to have one that is a keyboard as well. If this is even possible. I 
have been trying to research what is out there. I see that there are some Apple 
cases, that are also keyboards. But I want to make sure I get something that's 
going to be accessible as well.

Any thoughts, or advice is much appreciated.  This is the regular iPad. I hope 
that helps. I'm not quite sure how to classify that. But it's not the pro, or 
the mini. So I figured that made the best sense.

Thank you,

Terri Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Home button gestures on an iPad

[Carolyn Arnold]

Oh, and to control Voiceover, wither three-finger triple tap or press Power 
Button three times. 

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Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 11:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Home button gestures on an iPad

The assistive touch button is a very useful feature. How to Enable a Virtual 
Home Button on iPhone or iPad with AssistiveTouch 
<https://osxdaily.com/2018/08/16/enable-virtual-home-button-ios-assistivetouch/>
 

I’ve used it in the past when the home button on one of my older phones was all 
wonky and I didn’t feel like hassling with trying to fix it.

It’s also convenient to have with all the larger sized iPhones. On my XR, I 
have it placed on the right side of the screen (I’m right handed) just above 
the dock of apps. Not necessary, but it’s still nice to have options to do this 
or that gesture 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 6:51 PM
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Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

 

How do you do things like access Siri, reach the app switcher, and control 
Voiceover like you would do with presses of the home button?

 

Andy

 

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Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

 

translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched 
tone than the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM

Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad

 

Hi Andy, 

 

What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the 
screen until you feel a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for 
sighted people, just without VoiceOver’s clicks.

 

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi 



 

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RE: Home button gestures on an iPad

[Carolyn Arnold]

App Switcher, slide up past Home page to the next signal. 

Siri, press Power Button on right side of phone. 

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How do you do things like access Siri, reach the app switcher, and control 
Voiceover like you would do with presses of the home button?
 
Andy
 

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translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched 
tone than the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM
Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad

Hi Andy, 

What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the 
screen until you feel a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for 
sighted people, just without VoiceOver’s clicks.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi 




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Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

[Andy Baracco]

Thank you.

Andy

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a.. To access Siri, long press the lock button.
b.. To get to the App Switcher, start at the bottom of the screen and slide 
up until you feel the third vibration. Two vibrations will get you to the home 
screen and three vibrations will get you the App Switcher.
c.. To stop and restart VoiceOver, use a triple press of the lock button.
   

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 8:51 PM
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  How do you do things like access Siri, reach the app switcher, and control 
Voiceover like you would do with presses of the home button?

   

  Andy

   

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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 6:35 PM

Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

 

translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched tone 
than the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.

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  From: Jennie Facer 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM

  Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad

   

  Hi Andy, 

   

  What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until 
you feel a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people, 
just without VoiceOver’s clicks.

   

  Jenn

  Jenn and Kumi 

  

   

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RE: Home button gestures on an iPad

[Christopher Chaltain]

  *   To access Siri, long press the lock button.
  *   To get to the App Switcher, start at the bottom of the screen and slide 
up until you feel the third vibration. Two vibrations will get you to the home 
screen and three vibrations will get you the App Switcher.
  *   To stop and restart VoiceOver, use a triple press of the lock button.

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 8:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

How do you do things like access Siri, reach the app switcher, and control 
Voiceover like you would do with presses of the home button?

Andy

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From: Robert Doc Wright<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched tone than 
the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.
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From: Jennie Facer<mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM
Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad

Hi Andy,

What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until you feel 
a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people, just 
without VoiceOver's clicks.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi


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RE: Home button gestures on an iPad

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

The assistive touch button is a very useful feature. How to Enable a Virtual 
Home Button on iPhone or iPad with AssistiveTouch 
<https://osxdaily.com/2018/08/16/enable-virtual-home-button-ios-assistivetouch/>
 

I’ve used it in the past when the home button on one of my older phones was all 
wonky and I didn’t feel like hassling with trying to fix it.

It’s also convenient to have with all the larger sized iPhones. On my XR, I 
have it placed on the right side of the screen (I’m right handed) just above 
the dock of apps. Not necessary, but it’s still nice to have options to do this 
or that gesture 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

 

How do you do things like access Siri, reach the app switcher, and control 
Voiceover like you would do with presses of the home button?

 

Andy

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 6:35 PM

Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

 

translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched tone than 
the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.

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From: Jennie Facer <mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM

Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad

 

Hi Andy, 

 

What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until you feel 
a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people, just 
without VoiceOver’s clicks.

 

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi 



 

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Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

[Andy Baracco]

How do you do things like access Siri, reach the app switcher, and control 
Voiceover like you would do with presses of the home button?

Andy

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  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 6:35 PM
  Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad


  translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched tone than 
the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.
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From: Jennie Facer 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM
Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad


Hi Andy, 


What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until you 
feel a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people, just 
without VoiceOver’s clicks.


Jenn

Jenn and Kumi 



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Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

[Robert Doc Wright]

translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched tone than 
the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jennie Facer 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM
  Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad


  Hi Andy,


  What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until you 
feel a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people, just 
without VoiceOver’s clicks.


  Jenn

  Jenn and Kumi 



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Home button gestures on an iPad

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Andy,

What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until you feel 
a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people, just 
without VoiceOver’s clicks.

Jenn
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Gestures That Replace Home Button for iPad

[Andy Baracco]

My wife just got a new iPad and to her surprise, she realized that it does 
not have a home button.
Does anyone know where I can obtain a list of gestures that perform the 
functions of the home button?


Andy

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Re: Apple's software updates are breaking things - is it time we delayed installing them? iMore, The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch blog

[regina alvarado]

 Not necessarily true that iOS won’t update on its own. 16.41 definitely 
updated on its own on my phone and I didn’t have it on cord. Suddenly it said 
that there was no update and when I checked it there was no update to download. 
That is the first time that’s ever happened to me. I am going to turn off all 
the automatic download messages, so it is all manual.



Reggie Alvarado 

On Apr 9, 2023, at 1:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Maybe "flawless" is a bit too strong of a description because even when Apple 
releases the last version of a current major version before the next new 
version comes out, there are still some bugs present.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2023 7:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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delayed installing them? iMore, The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch blog

I'd never encourage or discourage anyone from updating IOS, but I'm not sure 
Ive ever seen a flawless   OS.

—
Christopher (AKA CJ) on the move
Chaltain at Gmail

> On Apr 8, 2023, at 8:28 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> For those of us who remember iOS 11 which was released in 2017, it 
> was plagued with bugs. I did not update my iPhone until the spring 
> when Apple squashed most of them.  I was nagged to update but never 
> did until I was ready to enjoy a flawless experience.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4/8/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> I disagree, I have never had my iPhone update entirely by itself if I 
>> didn't want it to. I have a friend in Germany who has an iPhone SE 
>> 2020 which is certainly capable of running iOS 16.4, but for some 
>> reason he wants to stay on iOS 15 right now and that is what he is 
>> on. I think sometimes people accidently tap something not realizing 
>> they just agreed to having an update install later, but you do have 
>> to enter your PIN and tap on "I Agree" at least I have never done an 
>> iOS update since my first iOS device in 2009 where this was not the 
>> case and it's now easier than ever to avoid updates if you don't want them.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Michael McKay
>> Sent: Friday, April 7, 2023 2:16 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's software updates are breaking things - is it 
>> time we delayed installing them? iMore, The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod 
>> touch blog
>> 
>> Hi folks:
>> 
>> It’s been my experience that the updates to the Apple iPhone iPad the 
>> computer being the Mac, will only delay the updates. Sooner or later 
>> it will update on its own there’s no way to block them indefinitely. 
>> I’ve tried on my own phone and I picked it up one day and found it 
>> updating on its own even if the automatic update feature is turned 
>> off. Just thought I would let folks know that so please be aware of 
>> that
>> 
>> Have a happy and safe Easter weekend.
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> Michael G. MacKay BA, ‘05.
>> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Apr 7, 2023, at 14:53, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> iMore - The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch blog - Thursday, April 
>>> 6,
>>> 2023 at 8:41 AM
>>> 
>>> Apple's software updates are breaking things - is it time we delayed 
>>> installing them?
>>> Maybe let someone else find the bugs for a change.
>>> 
>>> Apple releases plenty of software updates. It's one of the things 
>>> that we like about the iPhone in particular
>>> 
>>> Apple is always adding new features and fixing bugs. But sometimes 
>>> it introduces whole new ones in the process, and that's less than ideal.
>>> 
>>> I've historically told people to install the new hotness immediately.
>>> Whether it's an update to iOS 16 or macOS Ventura, or indeed any 
>>> other Apple operating system, my stance has always been to install 
>>> the updates immediately. Who doesn't want more features and fewer bugs?
>>> 
>>> But with Apple's software quality assurance maybe taking a hit, I'm 
>>> starting to rethink that. I'm thinking, maybe, it's time that 
>>> someone else found the bugs instead.
>>> 
>>> We've been here before
>>> Apple's software quality is something of a hot topic for some, 
>>> although not quite as blazing-hot as it once was.
>>> 
>>> There was once a time when you couldn't open a podcast app without 
>>>

RE: Apple's software updates are breaking things - is it time we delayed installing them? iMore, The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch blog

[Dennis Long]

You will never have a bug free experience.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2023 9:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's software updates are breaking things - is it time we 
delayed installing them? iMore, The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch blog

For those of us who remember iOS 11 which was released in 2017, it was plagued 
with bugs. I did not update my iPhone until the spring when Apple squashed most 
of them.  I was nagged to update but never did until I was ready to enjoy a 
flawless experience.

Kelly



On 4/8/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I disagree, I have never had my iPhone update entirely by itself if I 
> didn't want it to. I have a friend in Germany who has an iPhone SE 
> 2020 which is certainly capable of running iOS 16.4, but for some 
> reason he wants to stay on iOS 15 right now and that is what he is on. 
> I think sometimes people accidently tap something not realizing they 
> just agreed to having an update install later, but you do have to 
> enter your PIN and tap on "I Agree" at least I have never done an iOS 
> update since my first iOS device in 2009 where this was not the case 
> and it's now easier than ever to avoid updates if you don't want them.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael McKay
> Sent: Friday, April 7, 2023 2:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's software updates are breaking things - is it time 
> we delayed installing them? iMore, The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch 
> blog
>
> Hi folks:
>
> It’s been my experience that the updates to the Apple iPhone iPad the 
> computer being the Mac, will only delay the updates. Sooner or later 
> it will update on its own there’s no way to block them indefinitely. 
> I’ve tried on my own phone and I picked it up one day and found it 
> updating on its own even if the automatic update feature is turned 
> off. Just thought I would let folks know that so please be aware of 
> that
>
> Have a happy and safe Easter weekend.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Michael G. MacKay BA, ‘05.
> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 7, 2023, at 14:53, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>
>> iMore - The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch blog - Thursday, April 
>> 6,
>> 2023 at 8:41 AM
>>
>> Apple's software updates are breaking things - is it time we delayed 
>> installing them?
>> Maybe let someone else find the bugs for a change.
>>
>> Apple releases plenty of software updates. It's one of the things 
>> that we like about the iPhone in particular
>>
>> Apple is always adding new features and fixing bugs. But sometimes it 
>> introduces whole new ones in the process, and that's less than ideal.
>>
>> I've historically told people to install the new hotness immediately.
>> Whether it's an update to iOS 16 or macOS Ventura, or indeed any 
>> other Apple operating system, my stance has always been to install 
>> the updates immediately. Who doesn't want more features and fewer bugs?
>>
>> But with Apple's software quality assurance maybe taking a hit, I'm 
>> starting to rethink that. I'm thinking, maybe, it's time that someone 
>> else found the bugs instead.
>>
>> We've been here before
>> Apple's software quality is something of a hot topic for some, 
>> although not quite as blazing-hot as it once was.
>>
>> There was once a time when you couldn't open a podcast app without 
>> someone waxing lyrical about how Apple had dropped the ball in some 
>> way or another.
>> Focusing on the iPhone so much meant the Mac suffered, and there's an 
>> argument that some of the macOS Ventura goings-on suggest things are 
>> as bad as ever - does your Mac tell you there's a new app or service 
>> running on every restart?
>>
>> But things aren't much better over in iOS land anymore, either. 
>> Things are breaking and strange decisions are being made. But I can 
>> cope with opinionated software development not necessarily agreeing 
>> with my opinion.
>> What I don't like is introducing bugs for pretty vital bits of software.
>>
>> New iOS and macOS problems
>> Apple's latest round of updates has been problematic.
>> For example, people running macOS Ventura 13.3 and iPadOS 16.4 report 
>> that they can't make Continuity work anymore. Universal Control is a 
>> mess right now, while other Continuity-based features are also dead 
>> in the water.
>> Copying something on a Mac and having it appear on another device 
>> when you paste is the thing of magic.