RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
I have just installed the new update and I am having no problems so far and I didn't reset my settings at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 4:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released I have never closed apps or reset my network. I feel that it's a waste of time and not proven to be of value. It is a recommendation that is made by someone who does a podcast which some of us listen to. I am comfortable in saying that you will be okay avoiding these steps. On 11/17/14, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote: Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Pablo originally wondered if it was worth upgrading. For iPhone 5 users, the answer now is a definite no. A review of iOS 8.1.1 using an iPhone 5 just published in Got to Be Mobile has this to say: begin quote Speed: This is where everything falls apart. The iPhone 5 with iOS 7.1.2 on board was fast. The iPhone 5 with iOS 8.0 and iOS 8.0.2 on board wasn’t as fast but the speed was tolerable. The iPhone 5 with iOS 8.1 or iOS 8.1.1 on board is not tolerable. While iOS 8.1.1 is stable from a bug standpoint, the software is just as sluggish as the iOS 8.1 update. Here’s what I mean by sluggish. I am constantly seeing delays with the transitions and animations of the operating system, even after I minimized them in the settings. It takes far too long for folders and apps to open and I’ve noticed slowdown and random freezing when simply moving about the home screen. I honestly don’t know what happened but it’s really soured the experience. end quote The entire review from Adam Mills can be read at: http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/11/22/iphone-5-ios-8-1-1-review/ Kelly On 11/20/14, Jeffrey Turner jturner...@gmail.com wrote: Dratted annoying behavior of Gmail web interface! Am resending for those who very reasonably dislike reading all the way through old messages to find new content. What's wrong with google, anyway? Hi Christopher, I have found that the best way to insure focus is on the delete button in mail is to touch it twice, and then do a single finger double tap. This is much more annoying than it used to be, but not nearly as annoying as having to dismiss the reply dialog when what you wanted was to delete the message. Jeffrey -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Turner [mailto:jturner...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released On 11/19/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I still have the bug on my iPhone 4S where touching the delete button, or any button in the Mail app, doesn't actually give that button VocieOver focus. I have to swipe to a button to make sure that a double tap will activate the right button. On 11/19/2014 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Cuppens *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy *From:*Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:*RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
For what it's worth, my iPhone 5 feels no slower on iOS 8.x than it did on 7.x. Certainly, 8.1.1 didn't slow anything down at all. There are still bugs, to be sure, but I find braille input, interactive notifications, the improved Spotlight, and other features more than worth the minor annoyance of some bugs that rarely bother me. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 22, 2014, at 22:44, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote: Pablo originally wondered if it was worth upgrading. For iPhone 5 users, the answer now is a definite no. A review of iOS 8.1.1 using an iPhone 5 just published in Got to Be Mobile has this to say: begin quote Speed: This is where everything falls apart. The iPhone 5 with iOS 7.1.2 on board was fast. The iPhone 5 with iOS 8.0 and iOS 8.0.2 on board wasn’t as fast but the speed was tolerable. The iPhone 5 with iOS 8.1 or iOS 8.1.1 on board is not tolerable. While iOS 8.1.1 is stable from a bug standpoint, the software is just as sluggish as the iOS 8.1 update. Here’s what I mean by sluggish. I am constantly seeing delays with the transitions and animations of the operating system, even after I minimized them in the settings. It takes far too long for folders and apps to open and I’ve noticed slowdown and random freezing when simply moving about the home screen. I honestly don’t know what happened but it’s really soured the experience. end quote The entire review from Adam Mills can be read at: http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/11/22/iphone-5-ios-8-1-1-review/ Kelly On 11/20/14, Jeffrey Turner jturner...@gmail.com wrote: Dratted annoying behavior of Gmail web interface! Am resending for those who very reasonably dislike reading all the way through old messages to find new content. What's wrong with google, anyway? Hi Christopher, I have found that the best way to insure focus is on the delete button in mail is to touch it twice, and then do a single finger double tap. This is much more annoying than it used to be, but not nearly as annoying as having to dismiss the reply dialog when what you wanted was to delete the message. Jeffrey -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Turner [mailto:jturner...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released On 11/19/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I still have the bug on my iPhone 4S where touching the delete button, or any button in the Mail app, doesn't actually give that button VocieOver focus. I have to swipe to a button to make sure that a double tap will activate the right button. On 11/19/2014 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Cuppens *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy *From:*Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:*RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
This is not true for everyone. I never had 7, but I can't agree that 1-2 seconds for an app to open is too long. I only started with 8.1 to be fair, but my old 4s on 7 last year seemed very sluggish comparatively. Eden On 11/22/2014 7:44 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: Pablo originally wondered if it was worth upgrading. For iPhone 5 users, the answer now is a definite no. A review of iOS 8.1.1 using an iPhone 5 just published in Got to Be Mobile has this to say: begin quote Speed: This is where everything falls apart. The iPhone 5 with iOS 7.1.2 on board was fast. The iPhone 5 with iOS 8.0 and iOS 8.0.2 on board wasn’t as fast but the speed was tolerable. The iPhone 5 with iOS 8.1 or iOS 8.1.1 on board is not tolerable. While iOS 8.1.1 is stable from a bug standpoint, the software is just as sluggish as the iOS 8.1 update. Here’s what I mean by sluggish. I am constantly seeing delays with the transitions and animations of the operating system, even after I minimized them in the settings. It takes far too long for folders and apps to open and I’ve noticed slowdown and random freezing when simply moving about the home screen. I honestly don’t know what happened but it’s really soured the experience. end quote The entire review from Adam Mills can be read at: http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/11/22/iphone-5-ios-8-1-1-review/ Kelly On 11/20/14, Jeffrey Turner jturner...@gmail.com wrote: Dratted annoying behavior of Gmail web interface! Am resending for those who very reasonably dislike reading all the way through old messages to find new content. What's wrong with google, anyway? Hi Christopher, I have found that the best way to insure focus is on the delete button in mail is to touch it twice, and then do a single finger double tap. This is much more annoying than it used to be, but not nearly as annoying as having to dismiss the reply dialog when what you wanted was to delete the message. Jeffrey -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Turner [mailto:jturner...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released On 11/19/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I still have the bug on my iPhone 4S where touching the delete button, or any button in the Mail app, doesn't actually give that button VocieOver focus. I have to swipe to a button to make sure that a double tap will activate the right button. On 11/19/2014 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Cuppens *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy *From:*Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:*RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
I tried a hard reset. It did not work. What else can I try? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Jessica, It seems very few people can't clear their sections in notification centre. I can't remember who it was, but somebody who said the triple tap with one finger or a double tap followed by another double tap wasn't working for them until they did I think a hard reset of the iPhone. Once again, most of us can clear the notification centre just as easily as we can move apps around with Voiceover running. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released With regard to the Notification Center bug, in order to clear my notifications today, I had to turn off voice over. I don't know what someone who isn't able to do this would do. I would highly suggest that everyone report this to Apple Accessability. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2014, at 11:03 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I still have the bug on my iPhone 4S where touching the delete button, or any button in the Mail app, doesn't actually give that button VocieOver focus. I have to swipe to a button to make sure that a double tap will activate the right button. On 11/19/2014 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Cuppens *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy *From:*Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:*RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Try single finger triple tab. On 20 Nov 2014, at 8:19 pm, Jessica Dail jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I tried a hard reset. It did not work. What else can I try? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Jessica, It seems very few people can't clear their sections in notification centre. I can't remember who it was, but somebody who said the triple tap with one finger or a double tap followed by another double tap wasn't working for them until they did I think a hard reset of the iPhone. Once again, most of us can clear the notification centre just as easily as we can move apps around with Voiceover running. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released With regard to the Notification Center bug, in order to clear my notifications today, I had to turn off voice over. I don't know what someone who isn't able to do this would do. I would highly suggest that everyone report this to Apple Accessability. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2014, at 11:03 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I still have the bug on my iPhone 4S where touching the delete button, or any button in the Mail app, doesn't actually give that button VocieOver focus. I have to swipe to a button to make sure that a double tap will activate the right button. On 11/19/2014 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Cuppens *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy *From:*Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:*RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
I tried that as well. It didn't work. In fact, the button didn't do anything. I did a full restore the other day because of some other issues. That didn't fix it either. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2014, at 8:29 AM, Alvin alvin@gmail.com wrote: Try single finger triple tab. On 20 Nov 2014, at 8:19 pm, Jessica Dail jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I tried a hard reset. It did not work. What else can I try? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Jessica, It seems very few people can't clear their sections in notification centre. I can't remember who it was, but somebody who said the triple tap with one finger or a double tap followed by another double tap wasn't working for them until they did I think a hard reset of the iPhone. Once again, most of us can clear the notification centre just as easily as we can move apps around with Voiceover running. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released With regard to the Notification Center bug, in order to clear my notifications today, I had to turn off voice over. I don't know what someone who isn't able to do this would do. I would highly suggest that everyone report this to Apple Accessability. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2014, at 11:03 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I still have the bug on my iPhone 4S where touching the delete button, or any button in the Mail app, doesn't actually give that button VocieOver focus. I have to swipe to a button to make sure that a double tap will activate the right button. On 11/19/2014 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Cuppens *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy *From:*Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:*RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
You have to doubleclick twice, so doubleclick wait until voiceover speaks again and doubleclick again. Regards Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Jessica Dail Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released With regard to the Notification Center bug, in order to clear my notifications today, I had to turn off voice over. I don't know what someone who isn't able to do this would do. I would highly suggest that everyone report this to Apple Accessability. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2014, at 11:03 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I still have the bug on my iPhone 4S where touching the delete button, or any button in the Mail app, doesn't actually give that button VocieOver focus. I have to swipe to a button to make sure that a double tap will activate the right button. On 11/19/2014 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Cuppens *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy *From:*Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:*RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Are you sure your phone isn't the problem? Do you have insurrance to get a replacement phone? - Original Message - From: Jessica Dail jldai...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 8:52 AM Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released I tried that as well. It didn't work. In fact, the button didn't do anything. I did a full restore the other day because of some other issues. That didn't fix it either. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2014, at 8:29 AM, Alvin alvin@gmail.com wrote: Try single finger triple tab. On 20 Nov 2014, at 8:19 pm, Jessica Dail jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I tried a hard reset. It did not work. What else can I try? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Jessica, It seems very few people can't clear their sections in notification centre. I can't remember who it was, but somebody who said the triple tap with one finger or a double tap followed by another double tap wasn't working for them until they did I think a hard reset of the iPhone. Once again, most of us can clear the notification centre just as easily as we can move apps around with Voiceover running. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released With regard to the Notification Center bug, in order to clear my notifications today, I had to turn off voice over. I don't know what someone who isn't able to do this would do. I would highly suggest that everyone report this to Apple Accessability. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2014, at 11:03 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I still have the bug on my iPhone 4S where touching the delete button, or any button in the Mail app, doesn't actually give that button VocieOver focus. I have to swipe to a button to make sure that a double tap will activate the right button. On 11/19/2014 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Cuppens *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy *From:*Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:*RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Hello all, I have encountered several bugs with the new Ios 8.1. First of all, when I do a two finger double tap on the search box it use to allow me to dictate what I wanted to put in that box, but that no longer hgappens. Also, when I am trying to type with a keyboard, a refreshabraille, or with my fingers, it is not taking in any edit fields. Help please. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2014, at 8:29 AM, Alvin alvin@gmail.com wrote: Try single finger triple tab. On 20 Nov 2014, at 8:19 pm, Jessica Dail jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I tried a hard reset. It did not work. What else can I try? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Jessica, It seems very few people can't clear their sections in notification centre. I can't remember who it was, but somebody who said the triple tap with one finger or a double tap followed by another double tap wasn't working for them until they did I think a hard reset of the iPhone. Once again, most of us can clear the notification centre just as easily as we can move apps around with Voiceover running. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released With regard to the Notification Center bug, in order to clear my notifications today, I had to turn off voice over. I don't know what someone who isn't able to do this would do. I would highly suggest that everyone report this to Apple Accessability. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2014, at 11:03 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I still have the bug on my iPhone 4S where touching the delete button, or any button in the Mail app, doesn't actually give that button VocieOver focus. I have to swipe to a button to make sure that a double tap will activate the right button. On 11/19/2014 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Cuppens *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy *From:*Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:*RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http
RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Have you turned your phone off and back on after about 30 seconds or so since the update? If not do so and it will probably clear up some of this. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Johnna Simmons Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Hello all, I have encountered several bugs with the new Ios 8.1. First of all, when I do a two finger double tap on the search box it use to allow me to dictate what I wanted to put in that box, but that no longer hgappens. Also, when I am trying to type with a keyboard, a refreshabraille, or with my fingers, it is not taking in any edit fields. Help please. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2014, at 8:29 AM, Alvin alvin@gmail.com wrote: Try single finger triple tab. On 20 Nov 2014, at 8:19 pm, Jessica Dail jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I tried a hard reset. It did not work. What else can I try? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Jessica, It seems very few people can't clear their sections in notification centre. I can't remember who it was, but somebody who said the triple tap with one finger or a double tap followed by another double tap wasn't working for them until they did I think a hard reset of the iPhone. Once again, most of us can clear the notification centre just as easily as we can move apps around with Voiceover running. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released With regard to the Notification Center bug, in order to clear my notifications today, I had to turn off voice over. I don't know what someone who isn't able to do this would do. I would highly suggest that everyone report this to Apple Accessability. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2014, at 11:03 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I still have the bug on my iPhone 4S where touching the delete button, or any button in the Mail app, doesn't actually give that button VocieOver focus. I have to swipe to a button to make sure that a double tap will activate the right button. On 11/19/2014 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Cuppens *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy *From:*Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:*RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
On 11/19/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I still have the bug on my iPhone 4S where touching the delete button, or any button in the Mail app, doesn't actually give that button VocieOver focus. I have to swipe to a button to make sure that a double tap will activate the right button. On 11/19/2014 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Cuppens *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy *From:*Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:*RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners
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Dratted annoying behavior of Gmail web interface! Am resending for those who very reasonably dislike reading all the way through old messages to find new content. What's wrong with google, anyway? Hi Christopher, I have found that the best way to insure focus is on the delete button in mail is to touch it twice, and then do a single finger double tap. This is much more annoying than it used to be, but not nearly as annoying as having to dismiss the reply dialog when what you wanted was to delete the message. Jeffrey -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Turner [mailto:jturner...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released On 11/19/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I still have the bug on my iPhone 4S where touching the delete button, or any button in the Mail app, doesn't actually give that button VocieOver focus. I have to swipe to a button to make sure that a double tap will activate the right button. On 11/19/2014 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Cuppens *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy *From:*Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:*RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy From: Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy From: Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
is there a work around for the search bug? Hank On 11/19/2014 9:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Cuppens *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy *From:*Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:*RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
If you mean clearing the search field in the app store then yes, just double tap Clear text twice. The second time you hear a bonk sound which indicates there is nothing there any more and if you swipe right it will say “Double tap to dismiss instead of clear text and that means the search field is empty even though Voiceover will still announce what you last typed in. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released is there a work around for the search bug? Hank On 11/19/2014 9:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy From: Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Yes, keypad tones - That reminds me! I've always wanted to have clicks when brailling on the keyboard and speech at the end of each word (after space) but haven't been able to get them. I've contacted Apple already. Is this a particular bug with the braille input keyboard or not? Carol P - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 4:20 PM Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy From: Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Hi Sieghard I hear so many people complaining about a bug in safari that you can nolonger navigate page per page with a three finger swipe up or down. Sorry but I cannot reproduce this, on most sites I can navigate down to the last page with these gestures. This mail with the very conprehensive list of small inconveniences helped me a lot. Indeed the lock screen notification bug is still not there but not constant; sometimes messages are spoken sometimes not. Regards Davy From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 5:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy From: Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than
Re: is 8.1.1 has been released
That is the most ridiculous solution I've ever heard. It's like taking a walk without your cane or guide dog! Apple had better get their act together soon or I'll be thinking of a switch. Way to expensive a device to be playing games like this with those of us who have accessibility needs. I think they are telling us to bite the dust. I have until the summer before I can do anything so we will see. I hope Steve comes to haunt them all big time because this would never happen with him in charge. What a terrible loss that was for us. I honestly haven't seen any big improvements in the IOS. Still have no caller ID and only half cooked notifications. And having the apps helter-skelter all over the place and not being able to organize them is really irritating. And Face Book is still behaving inconsistently too. I'll stop there. I really feel sorry for anyone who spent money recently on a new iPhone. At least mine worked well for more than a year until they shattered accessibility in iOS8 thus far. Sorry this is a gripe post but I'm very frustrated. Mary Anne On 11/18/2014 12:55 PM, Jessica Dail wrote: Yes. In order to move apps, one must find where they want the app to go, remember that spot, turn off voice over, drag the app to the new location, then turn voiceover back on. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey marlyn...@gmail.com wrote: I still can't move apps consistently. Anyone else noticed this? Mary Anne On 11/17/2014 3:56 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote: Eden, the update fixes those problems. first things I noticed were those fixed and more response -Original Message- From: Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released I certainly want to fix these problems because it will lock when Voice-over speaks, and Siri often doesn't finish what she's saying. Eden On 11/17/2014 11:46 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group
Re: is 8.1.1 has been released
Hi, Nobody at Apple yet has told anyone to bite the dust. Like everything else in the past, it will be fixed. It did work and it will work again. They had more problems than they counted on, they released the software too early because of market pressures but, we have to admit they never have put out so many updates so quickly before. They didn't have only accessibility problems so I don't know why we feel so targetted. Everybody is having problems as well as we are and we can't think that they will only take care of our problems Just an opinion Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: Mary Anne Lynskey Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 5:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: is 8.1.1 has been released That is the most ridiculous solution I've ever heard. It's like taking a walk without your cane or guide dog! Apple had better get their act together soon or I'll be thinking of a switch. Way to expensive a device to be playing games like this with those of us who have accessibility needs. I think they are telling us to bite the dust. I have until the summer before I can do anything so we will see. I hope Steve comes to haunt them all big time because this would never happen with him in charge. What a terrible loss that was for us. I honestly haven't seen any big improvements in the IOS. Still have no caller ID and only half cooked notifications. And having the apps helter-skelter all over the place and not being able to organize them is really irritating. And Face Book is still behaving inconsistently too. I'll stop there. I really feel sorry for anyone who spent money recently on a new iPhone. At least mine worked well for more than a year until they shattered accessibility in iOS8 thus far. Sorry this is a gripe post but I'm very frustrated. Mary Anne On 11/18/2014 12:55 PM, Jessica Dail wrote: Yes. In order to move apps, one must find where they want the app to go, remember that spot, turn off voice over, drag the app to the new location, then turn voiceover back on. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey marlyn...@gmail.com wrote: I still can't move apps consistently. Anyone else noticed this? Mary Anne On 11/17/2014 3:56 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote: Eden, the update fixes those problems. first things I noticed were those fixed and more response -Original Message- From: Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released I certainly want to fix these problems because it will lock when Voice-over speaks, and Siri often doesn't finish what she's saying. Eden On 11/17/2014 11:46 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr
Re: is 8.1.1 has been released
Hi Mary Ann and Pablo. It amazes me when I hear these comments like this from people, that they still use the device even though they just bad mouthed it. And it amazes me more when I hear Raul say that Pablo has made these same comments ever since iOS6, maybe even iOS 5. So the question I have to ask is if you've been feeling this way for a very long time, why haven't you switched to something that will meet your needs? Obviously Apple's doing something right if people keep coming back to them. And as for Apple playing with the disabled community, let me ask you this one important question. If in fact others feel the same way you do, do you really think that they would keep buying Apple products? I don't think so. So again, Apple must be doing something right. I'm sorry if I sound like I'm too loyal to Apple, but I'll keep using my Mac and my iPhone, because they're meeting my needs, so again, they must be doing something right. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On Nov 19, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey marlyn...@gmail.com wrote: That is the most ridiculous solution I've ever heard. It's like taking a walk without your cane or guide dog! Apple had better get their act together soon or I'll be thinking of a switch. Way to expensive a device to be playing games like this with those of us who have accessibility needs. I think they are telling us to bite the dust. I have until the summer before I can do anything so we will see. I hope Steve comes to haunt them all big time because this would never happen with him in charge. What a terrible loss that was for us. I honestly haven't seen any big improvements in the IOS. Still have no caller ID and only half cooked notifications. And having the apps helter-skelter all over the place and not being able to organize them is really irritating. And Face Book is still behaving inconsistently too. I'll stop there. I really feel sorry for anyone who spent money recently on a new iPhone. At least mine worked well for more than a year until they shattered accessibility in iOS8 thus far. Sorry this is a gripe post but I'm very frustrated. Mary Anne On 11/18/2014 12:55 PM, Jessica Dail wrote: Yes. In order to move apps, one must find where they want the app to go, remember that spot, turn off voice over, drag the app to the new location, then turn voiceover back on. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey marlyn...@gmail.com wrote: I still can't move apps consistently. Anyone else noticed this? Mary Anne On 11/17/2014 3:56 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote: Eden, the update fixes those problems. first things I noticed were those fixed and more response -Original Message- From: Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released I certainly want to fix these problems because it will lock when Voice-over speaks, and Siri often doesn't finish what she's saying. Eden On 11/17/2014 11:46 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel
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Agreed completely. Unfortunately, on public lists, some folks have a tendency to go on emotional rants and amplify their personal grievances. As someone who works in the area of accessibility for Apple, I am often perplexed and puzzled by the assertions and assumptions I read. However, since I spent some 18 years as a vendor for blindness products and dealt with the same sorts of comments and assumptions, I'm not surprised. No company will ever please everyone and despite all of the positives and the access we are given, there is always someone who will find it more productive to emphasize what they perceive is the negatives. Apple is far from giving up on accessibility, and playing with the disabled is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard. It's the farthest thing from the truth. That is all I can and will say on that matter. If you think there is a better solution for you, I'll be willing to bet the farm that you will only find things to complain about that solution once you find out that the grass isn't greener. Been there and done that in my life more than once too. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain Lion AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Nov 19, 2014, at 8:06 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Mary Ann and Pablo. It amazes me when I hear these comments like this from people, that they still use the device even though they just bad mouthed it. And it amazes me more when I hear Raul say that Pablo has made these same comments ever since iOS6, maybe even iOS 5. So the question I have to ask is if you've been feeling this way for a very long time, why haven't you switched to something that will meet your needs? Obviously Apple's doing something right if people keep coming back to them. And as for Apple playing with the disabled community, let me ask you this one important question. If in fact others feel the same way you do, do you really think that they would keep buying Apple products? I don't think so. So again, Apple must be doing something right. I'm sorry if I sound like I'm too loyal to Apple, but I'll keep using my Mac and my iPhone, because they're meeting my needs, so again, they must be doing something right. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On Nov 19, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey marlyn...@gmail.com wrote: That is the most ridiculous solution I've ever heard. It's like taking a walk without your cane or guide dog! Apple had better get their act together soon or I'll be thinking of a switch. Way to expensive a device to be playing games like this with those of us who have accessibility needs. I think they are telling us to bite the dust. I have until the summer before I can do anything so we will see. I hope Steve comes to haunt them all big time because this would never happen with him in charge. What a terrible loss that was for us. I honestly haven't seen any big improvements in the IOS. Still have no caller ID and only half cooked notifications. And having the apps helter-skelter all over the place and not being able to organize them is really irritating. And Face Book is still behaving inconsistently too. I'll stop there. I really feel sorry for anyone who spent money recently on a new iPhone. At least mine worked well for more than a year until they shattered accessibility in iOS8 thus far. Sorry this is a gripe post but I'm very frustrated. Mary Anne On 11/18/2014 12:55 PM, Jessica Dail wrote: Yes. In order to move apps, one must find where they want the app to go, remember that spot, turn off voice over, drag the app to the new location, then turn voiceover back on. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey marlyn...@gmail.com wrote: I still can't move apps consistently. Anyone else noticed this? Mary Anne On 11/17/2014 3:56 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote: Eden, the update fixes those problems. first things I noticed were those fixed and more response -Original Message- From: Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released I certainly want to fix these problems because it will lock when Voice-over speaks, and Siri often doesn't finish what she's saying. Eden On 11/17/2014 11:46 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening
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Yes, it is the most rediculous solution, and it is unnecessary, at least on my iPhone 5s running iOS 8.1.1, my girlfriend's iPhones 5 and 6+ running iOS 8.1.1, her ipad 2, 3, and 4, all running iOS 8.1 and 8.1.1 (not all are upgraded yet). Testing on all of these devices moves apps the way they have always moved, both on the home screen, and into and out from folders. Did you test for yourself before going off on your over-the-top absolutely rediculous rant at Apple I run my business primarily from my iPhone es using iOS 8.1.1. Before iOS 8, I needed to use a bluetooth braille display for the keyboard. Now, because I spent the time to learn the braille input, I no longer need to carry my braille display. I only use it now when I am proofreading important documents and presentations. Note: this email is being typed using braille input, and I am finally as fast as with the braille display keyboard. As for the moving and deleting apps in the last row, as reported by some users, I have not experienced this problem with any of the afor mentioned iDevices. This means, it is an intermentent bug, not a bug that effects all devices. The problem with such bugs is they are extremely difficult to find, and even more difficult to correct Oh, and a note about testing for bugs, if you do so whilst stressed (such as the state you were in when writing this email, you will very easily cause the appearance of such bugs just because of your emotional excitation. Try again later, after relaxing and taking many deep breaths. Then, try again the next day, at a different time of day, when you are under different conditions. Learning anything new is always stressful, and we always make mistakes. In fact, the greater the stress and anxiety, the worse the mistakes we make. Apple continues inovating. They continue adding new features to iOS, to VoiceOver, and to general accessibility. In six months, my girlfriend and I will be presenting a paper comparing Apple's latest with Android's latest regarding all of each system's accessibility options. So, I will start learning Android TalkBack this weekend. My girlfriend finds Apple's low vision features to be better overall than Android. That said, we will start testing with low vision students in January. So, contrary to your assertions, Steve Jobs would be quite happy with Apple and where it is heading. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 20 Nov 2014, at 11:56, Mary Anne Lynskey marlyn...@gmail.com wrote: That is the most ridiculous solution I've ever heard. It's like taking a walk without your cane or guide dog! Apple had better get their act together soon or I'll be thinking of a switch. Way to expensive a device to be playing games like this with those of us who have accessibility needs. I think they are telling us to bite the dust. I have until the summer before I can do anything so we will see. I hope Steve comes to haunt them all big time because this would never happen with him in charge. What a terrible loss that was for us. I honestly haven't seen any big improvements in the IOS. Still have no caller ID and only half cooked notifications. And having the apps helter-skelter all over the place and not being able to organize them is really irritating. And Face Book is still behaving inconsistently too. I'll stop there. I really feel sorry for anyone who spent money recently on a new iPhone. At least mine worked well for more than a year until they shattered accessibility in iOS8 thus far. Sorry this is a gripe post but I'm very frustrated. Mary Anne On 11/18/2014 12:55 PM, Jessica Dail wrote: Yes. In order to move apps, one must find where they want the app to go, remember that spot, turn off voice over, drag the app to the new location, then turn voiceover back on. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey marlyn...@gmail.com wrote: I still can't move apps consistently. Anyone else noticed this? Mary Anne On 11/17/2014 3:56 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote: Eden, the update fixes those problems. first things I noticed were those fixed and more response -Original Message- From: Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released I certainly want to fix these problems because it will lock when Voice-over speaks, and Siri often doesn't finish what she's saying. Eden On 11/17/2014 11:46 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making
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where they want the app to go, remember that spot, turn off voice over, drag the app to the new location, then turn voiceover back on. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey marlyn...@gmail.com wrote: I still can't move apps consistently. Anyone else noticed this? Mary Anne On 11/17/2014 3:56 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote: Eden, the update fixes those problems. first things I noticed were those fixed and more response -Original Message- From: Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released I certainly want to fix these problems because it will lock when Voice-over speaks, and Siri often doesn't finish what she's saying. Eden On 11/17/2014 11:46 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
I still have the bug on my iPhone 4S where touching the delete button, or any button in the Mail app, doesn't actually give that button VocieOver focus. I have to swipe to a button to make sure that a double tap will activate the right button. On 11/19/2014 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Cuppens *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy *From:*Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:*RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone
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With regard to the Notification Center bug, in order to clear my notifications today, I had to turn off voice over. I don't know what someone who isn't able to do this would do. I would highly suggest that everyone report this to Apple Accessability. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2014, at 11:03 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I still have the bug on my iPhone 4S where touching the delete button, or any button in the Mail app, doesn't actually give that button VocieOver focus. I have to swipe to a button to make sure that a double tap will activate the right button. On 11/19/2014 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Cuppens *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy *From:*Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:*RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https
RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Hi Jessica, It seems very few people can't clear their sections in notification centre. I can't remember who it was, but somebody who said the triple tap with one finger or a double tap followed by another double tap wasn't working for them until they did I think a hard reset of the iPhone. Once again, most of us can clear the notification centre just as easily as we can move apps around with Voiceover running. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released With regard to the Notification Center bug, in order to clear my notifications today, I had to turn off voice over. I don't know what someone who isn't able to do this would do. I would highly suggest that everyone report this to Apple Accessability. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2014, at 11:03 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I still have the bug on my iPhone 4S where touching the delete button, or any button in the Mail app, doesn't actually give that button VocieOver focus. I have to swipe to a button to make sure that a double tap will activate the right button. On 11/19/2014 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Davy, All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it. Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where you change your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe, but it’s still a bug. The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover will read your last entered text. The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug. These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been mentioned and Apple still has a way to go. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Cuppens *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all safari bugs are still there. Regards Davy *From:*Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com *Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:*RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Eden As being a newbie, it is best to connect your phone to a mac or pc and do the update via Itunes which will warn you about an update being available when you tab around. Regards Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released so if i avoid these steps, how exactly do I update my phone is it like updating apps, and how do I find said update? eden On 11/17/2014 1:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: I have never closed apps or reset my network. I feel that it's a waste of time and not proven to be of value. It is a recommendation that is made by someone who does a podcast which some of us listen to. I am comfortable in saying that you will be okay avoiding these steps. On 11/17/14, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote: Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr
Resetting Network Settings was RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Sieghard, I assume that resetting network settings will also cause you to lose all wi-fi password settings for any previous networks you've logged on to. If one moves around a lot to many different wi-fi networks, losing this can be a major inconvenience. Obviously, the cost of this inconvenience must be weighed against any benefit this network reset offers when upgrading. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Hi Christina and Eden, The least one should do before an update is to remove all apps from the app switcher and to turn off the phone, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on. This is just good practice because an iPhone which has not been rebooted for a long time can have stuff in memory and so on which may negatively impact an iOS update. Doing a Reset all Network Settings in Settings, General, Reset does in fact not delete any networks, but it will as the name indicates reset all network modems to factory settings and it will delete your WiFi password which means after you reboot the phone you have to go to Settings, WiFi and reconnect to your WiFi. However, it will also clear out anything which potentially could effect an update from memory and it is something some people who know a thing about iOS recommend. It's not strictly necessary, but while I have often read on the list how people had problems where an update didn't complete or really messed up the phone, I have never in 5 years had a single problem with an update not going perfectly smooth and I do follow my own advice here. Regards, sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You
RE: Resetting Network Settings was RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Hi Alan, Yes, if you use 5 or 6 different WiFi networks then that could be inconvenient. I mostly use my Home WiFi and my work WiFi and a couple of times a year I visit my parents and may use theirs or that of a friend. I don't find entering 3 or 4 WiFi passwords very inconvenient, but everybody is different and for some it may be a daunting task knowing they have to reconnect to even just their own home WiFi. In this case removing all apps from the app switcher and at least shutting down the phone for 30 seconds and turning it back on is a good compromise. I know a couple people here said they don't even close out their apps when they upgrade. All I can say here is to each their own. I have heard a lot of stories where people upgraded without doing any of the recommended things and they end up with horrible battery life, unexpected crashes or other weird inconsistancies. I am just not prepared to risk that especially since doing even the Reset all Network settings at best takes 2 or 3 minutes. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Resetting Network Settings was RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Sieghard, I assume that resetting network settings will also cause you to lose all wi-fi password settings for any previous networks you've logged on to. If one moves around a lot to many different wi-fi networks, losing this can be a major inconvenience. Obviously, the cost of this inconvenience must be weighed against any benefit this network reset offers when upgrading. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Hi Christina and Eden, The least one should do before an update is to remove all apps from the app switcher and to turn off the phone, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on. This is just good practice because an iPhone which has not been rebooted for a long time can have stuff in memory and so on which may negatively impact an iOS update. Doing a Reset all Network Settings in Settings, General, Reset does in fact not delete any networks, but it will as the name indicates reset all network modems to factory settings and it will delete your WiFi password which means after you reboot the phone you have to go to Settings, WiFi and reconnect to your WiFi. However, it will also clear out anything which potentially could effect an update from memory and it is something some people who know a thing about iOS recommend. It's not strictly necessary, but while I have often read on the list how people had problems where an update didn't complete or really messed up the phone, I have never in 5 years had a single problem with an update not going perfectly smooth and I do follow my own advice here. Regards, sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
They still haven't corrected the issue of moving apps residing near the dock. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Yes, iOS 8.1.1 doesn't mention accessibility fixes but there seem to be a number of very good and very much needed improvements and I think anybody who hasn't upgraded now should find iOS 8 to be a pretty good experience. It will be interesting to hear what 4S users have to say regarding the responsiveness and overall performance. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send
Re: is 8.1.1 has been released
I still can't move apps consistently. Anyone else noticed this? Mary Anne On 11/17/2014 3:56 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote: Eden, the update fixes those problems. first things I noticed were those fixed and more response -Original Message- From: Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released I certainly want to fix these problems because it will lock when Voice-over speaks, and Siri often doesn't finish what she's saying. Eden On 11/17/2014 11:46 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: is 8.1.1 has been released
Yes. In order to move apps, one must find where they want the app to go, remember that spot, turn off voice over, drag the app to the new location, then turn voiceover back on. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey marlyn...@gmail.com wrote: I still can't move apps consistently. Anyone else noticed this? Mary Anne On 11/17/2014 3:56 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote: Eden, the update fixes those problems. first things I noticed were those fixed and more response -Original Message- From: Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released I certainly want to fix these problems because it will lock when Voice-over speaks, and Siri often doesn't finish what she's saying. Eden On 11/17/2014 11:46 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit
RE: is 8.1.1 has been released
Hi Jessica, I apologize for disagreeing with you. This is like having to turn Voiceover off to tap the End Call button or whatever it was you said the other day. There are a lot of people o the list including myself who are completely blind and who move apps with Voiceover just fine. Yes, there is one bug and that is effecting apps in the last row above the dock. For me 2 of the 4 apps in that row can't be moved, for others none of them can't be moved. But I can move all other apps either to other spots on the home screen, to other home screens or into folders and positively saying that it can't be done unless you turn off Voiceover is not correct information. I assume it is possible that somebody's phone may have other issues just as some people say they can't clear notifications by triple tapping the Confirm clear section button or double tapping it twice. Either method does it for me and for most, but apparently for some it doesn't. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: is 8.1.1 has been released Yes. In order to move apps, one must find where they want the app to go, remember that spot, turn off voice over, drag the app to the new location, then turn voiceover back on. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey marlyn...@gmail.com wrote: I still can't move apps consistently. Anyone else noticed this? Mary Anne On 11/17/2014 3:56 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote: Eden, the update fixes those problems. first things I noticed were those fixed and more response -Original Message- From: Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released I certainly want to fix these problems because it will lock when Voice-over speaks, and Siri often doesn't finish what she's saying. Eden On 11/17/2014 11:46 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can
Re: is 8.1.1 has been released
Without having Voice-Over turned on, how will you know where you are moving an app to? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Jessica Dail jldai...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:55 AM Subject: Re: is 8.1.1 has been released Yes. In order to move apps, one must find where they want the app to go, remember that spot, turn off voice over, drag the app to the new location, then turn voiceover back on. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey marlyn...@gmail.com wrote: I still can't move apps consistently. Anyone else noticed this? Mary Anne On 11/17/2014 3:56 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote: Eden, the update fixes those problems. first things I noticed were those fixed and more response -Original Message- From: Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released I certainly want to fix these problems because it will lock when Voice-over speaks, and Siri often doesn't finish what she's saying. Eden On 11/17/2014 11:46 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com
RE: Resetting Network Settings was RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Sieghard, You're preaching to the choir here. I agree that your suggestions are wise to follow when doing an iOS upgrade. I've experienced the disaster when helping a friend upgrade to iOS 7 through iTunes and it didn't take and required her to reset her phone and start over. Anything that might avoid this problem is certainly worth a few minutes of inconvenience when resetting wi-fi passwords. Alan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Resetting Network Settings was RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Hi Alan, Yes, if you use 5 or 6 different WiFi networks then that could be inconvenient. I mostly use my Home WiFi and my work WiFi and a couple of times a year I visit my parents and may use theirs or that of a friend. I don't find entering 3 or 4 WiFi passwords very inconvenient, but everybody is different and for some it may be a daunting task knowing they have to reconnect to even just their own home WiFi. In this case removing all apps from the app switcher and at least shutting down the phone for 30 seconds and turning it back on is a good compromise. I know a couple people here said they don't even close out their apps when they upgrade. All I can say here is to each their own. I have heard a lot of stories where people upgraded without doing any of the recommended things and they end up with horrible battery life, unexpected crashes or other weird inconsistancies. I am just not prepared to risk that especially since doing even the Reset all Network settings at best takes 2 or 3 minutes. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Resetting Network Settings was RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Sieghard, I assume that resetting network settings will also cause you to lose all wi-fi password settings for any previous networks you've logged on to. If one moves around a lot to many different wi-fi networks, losing this can be a major inconvenience. Obviously, the cost of this inconvenience must be weighed against any benefit this network reset offers when upgrading. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Hi Christina and Eden, The least one should do before an update is to remove all apps from the app switcher and to turn off the phone, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on. This is just good practice because an iPhone which has not been rebooted for a long time can have stuff in memory and so on which may negatively impact an iOS update. Doing a Reset all Network Settings in Settings, General, Reset does in fact not delete any networks, but it will as the name indicates reset all network modems to factory settings and it will delete your WiFi password which means after you reboot the phone you have to go to Settings, WiFi and reconnect to your WiFi. However, it will also clear out anything which potentially could effect an update from memory and it is something some people who know a thing about iOS recommend. It's not strictly necessary, but while I have often read on the list how people had problems where an update didn't complete or really messed up the phone, I have never in 5 years had a single problem with an update not going perfectly smooth and I do follow my own advice here. Regards, sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement
Re: Resetting Network Settings was RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Alan I disagree. resetting the network settings makes no difference. On 11/18/14, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote: Sieghard, You're preaching to the choir here. I agree that your suggestions are wise to follow when doing an iOS upgrade. I've experienced the disaster when helping a friend upgrade to iOS 7 through iTunes and it didn't take and required her to reset her phone and start over. Anything that might avoid this problem is certainly worth a few minutes of inconvenience when resetting wi-fi passwords. Alan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Resetting Network Settings was RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Hi Alan, Yes, if you use 5 or 6 different WiFi networks then that could be inconvenient. I mostly use my Home WiFi and my work WiFi and a couple of times a year I visit my parents and may use theirs or that of a friend. I don't find entering 3 or 4 WiFi passwords very inconvenient, but everybody is different and for some it may be a daunting task knowing they have to reconnect to even just their own home WiFi. In this case removing all apps from the app switcher and at least shutting down the phone for 30 seconds and turning it back on is a good compromise. I know a couple people here said they don't even close out their apps when they upgrade. All I can say here is to each their own. I have heard a lot of stories where people upgraded without doing any of the recommended things and they end up with horrible battery life, unexpected crashes or other weird inconsistancies. I am just not prepared to risk that especially since doing even the Reset all Network settings at best takes 2 or 3 minutes. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Resetting Network Settings was RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Sieghard, I assume that resetting network settings will also cause you to lose all wi-fi password settings for any previous networks you've logged on to. If one moves around a lot to many different wi-fi networks, losing this can be a major inconvenience. Obviously, the cost of this inconvenience must be weighed against any benefit this network reset offers when upgrading. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Hi Christina and Eden, The least one should do before an update is to remove all apps from the app switcher and to turn off the phone, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on. This is just good practice because an iPhone which has not been rebooted for a long time can have stuff in memory and so on which may negatively impact an iOS update. Doing a Reset all Network Settings in Settings, General, Reset does in fact not delete any networks, but it will as the name indicates reset all network modems to factory settings and it will delete your WiFi password which means after you reboot the phone you have to go to Settings, WiFi and reconnect to your WiFi. However, it will also clear out anything which potentially could effect an update from memory and it is something some people who know a thing about iOS recommend. It's not strictly necessary, but while I have often read on the list how people had problems where an update didn't complete or really messed up the phone, I have never in 5 years had a single problem with an update not going perfectly smooth and I do follow my own advice here. Regards, sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov
RE: Resetting Network Settings was RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Hi John, I think this is one case where you have your opinion and we have ours and we'll just have to agree that we disagree. Not much point in saying you are right since there is no way to proof that it is so. Just because you never had problems with an upgrade not doing this doesn't mean somebody who had problems might not have avoided them by doing it. It's a bit like upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 8. Microsoft may make it possible to upgrade, but I would never do it and the only way I ever upgrade from one major version of Windows to another is by doing a complete fresh install and in the same way I will always do a Reset All Network Settings or at least a reboot of my device after removing all apps from the app switcher before doing any sort of iOS update. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Resetting Network Settings was RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Alan I disagree. resetting the network settings makes no difference. On 11/18/14, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote: Sieghard, You're preaching to the choir here. I agree that your suggestions are wise to follow when doing an iOS upgrade. I've experienced the disaster when helping a friend upgrade to iOS 7 through iTunes and it didn't take and required her to reset her phone and start over. Anything that might avoid this problem is certainly worth a few minutes of inconvenience when resetting wi-fi passwords. Alan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Resetting Network Settings was RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Hi Alan, Yes, if you use 5 or 6 different WiFi networks then that could be inconvenient. I mostly use my Home WiFi and my work WiFi and a couple of times a year I visit my parents and may use theirs or that of a friend. I don't find entering 3 or 4 WiFi passwords very inconvenient, but everybody is different and for some it may be a daunting task knowing they have to reconnect to even just their own home WiFi. In this case removing all apps from the app switcher and at least shutting down the phone for 30 seconds and turning it back on is a good compromise. I know a couple people here said they don't even close out their apps when they upgrade. All I can say here is to each their own. I have heard a lot of stories where people upgraded without doing any of the recommended things and they end up with horrible battery life, unexpected crashes or other weird inconsistancies. I am just not prepared to risk that especially since doing even the Reset all Network settings at best takes 2 or 3 minutes. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Resetting Network Settings was RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Sieghard, I assume that resetting network settings will also cause you to lose all wi-fi password settings for any previous networks you've logged on to. If one moves around a lot to many different wi-fi networks, losing this can be a major inconvenience. Obviously, the cost of this inconvenience must be weighed against any benefit this network reset offers when upgrading. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Hi Christina and Eden, The least one should do before an update is to remove all apps from the app switcher and to turn off the phone, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on. This is just good practice because an iPhone which has not been rebooted for a long time can have stuff in memory and so on which may negatively impact an iOS update. Doing a Reset all Network Settings in Settings, General, Reset does in fact not delete any networks, but it will as the name indicates reset all network modems to factory settings and it will delete your WiFi password which means after you reboot the phone you have to go to Settings, WiFi and reconnect to your WiFi. However, it will also clear out anything which potentially could effect an update from memory and it is something some people who know a thing about iOS recommend. It's not strictly necessary, but while I have often read on the list how people had problems where an update didn't complete or really messed up the phone, I have never in 5 years had a single problem with an update not going perfectly smooth and I do follow my own advice here. Regards, sieghard -Original
Re: is 8.1.1 has been released
I too am totally blind and have had no trouble in moving apps. I have experienced the apps in the last row above the dock not being able to be moved, but I can move apps to other screens or other parts of the same screen. Moving apps is a bit of a science at times, so if you are to the point of turning off VoiceOver, perhaps you need more practice in moving apps around. Best, Wayne On 11/18/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Without having Voice-Over turned on, how will you know where you are moving an app to? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Jessica Dail jldai...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:55 AM Subject: Re: is 8.1.1 has been released Yes. In order to move apps, one must find where they want the app to go, remember that spot, turn off voice over, drag the app to the new location, then turn voiceover back on. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey marlyn...@gmail.com wrote: I still can't move apps consistently. Anyone else noticed this? Mary Anne On 11/17/2014 3:56 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote: Eden, the update fixes those problems. first things I noticed were those fixed and more response -Original Message- From: Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released I certainly want to fix these problems because it will lock when Voice-over speaks, and Siri often doesn't finish what she's saying. Eden On 11/17/2014 11:46 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
There is an article about this at www.applevis.com --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:12 PM Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Hi Pablo, As Charles said, Aplevis did put up an article and somebody actually posted all the fixes yesterday. Anyhow, there has been some good progress with SIRI working much better with Voiceover and with notifications. For example, I was on the phone today when another call came in and Voiceover told me who the caller was without me taking my phone away from my ear. Some focus issues have also been resolved, but no, not every single bug has been fixed. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released There is an article about this at www.applevis.com http://www.applevis.com --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:12 PM Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners
RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Hi Pablo. All iOS versions have Voice Over bugs, Safari bugs, mail bugs, messages bugs, phone call bugs, ETC. You will never get a completely bug-free system. You will have to decide for yourself which bugs are deal breakers for you and which ones you can live with. For me specifically for example, the voice over scrolling bug which has been there since iOS 8.0 and all the way through 8.1 has now been fixed with iOS 8.1.1. Are there other bugs, of course there are. I have known your posts since before iOS 6 basically saying the same thing. If you want Apple to put out a bug free iOS, you will be waiting forever. You can read the messages on this busy list, or you can go over to www.applevis.com and see what they have to say about the existing bugs there. Good luck. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: November 18, 2014 6:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Hi Raul. I don't know why you are saying that I want an IOs free of bugs. I didn't say in my email, please read it again. I am just asking if he bugs that has been boring the voice over users, are still there. Why I am asking this? well, because with IOs 8, there were found many, too much bugs, later with the IOs 8.1, not many of those bugs were fixed. Of course that my question make sense, I am asking again, if the bugs that you, user of IOs 8 found in this release, are still in IOs 8.1.1. It is not so difficult to understand. Now if I am wanting that apple develop an IOs free of bugs, believe me Raul, I know that it will never be. This is a busy list? yes, maybe if apple makes a better job creating their operated system, the number of email list will be very few. But, I know it is a lie for ever. Well, thinking about how busy is this email list, is because of this, that I am asking. I am not able to read 300 emails daily. Sorry, I am very busy. But I promise you, that I will keep my topic until apple stop playing with their customers. Yes, you have been looking my emails since IOs 6, later IOs 7, IOs 8, and so on I am not hapy? yes, and I am using my right to highlight something that ai believe unfair.. Pablo Morales On Nov 18, 2014, at 9:07 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi Pablo. All iOS versions have Voice Over bugs, Safari bugs, mail bugs, messages bugs, phone call bugs, ETC. You will never get a completely bug-free system. You will have to decide for yourself which bugs are deal breakers for you and which ones you can live with. For me specifically for example, the voice over scrolling bug which has been there since iOS 8.0 and all the way through 8.1 has now been fixed with iOS 8.1.1. Are there other bugs, of course there are. I have known your posts since before iOS 6 basically saying the same thing. If you want Apple to put out a bug free iOS, you will be waiting forever. You can read the messages on this busy list, or you can go over to www.applevis.com and see what they have to say about the existing bugs there. Good luck. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: November 18, 2014 6:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Hi Seaghard. Thanks for your note. It is what I was asking, something clear, direct. Little bit IOs 8 is been better, but I will wait a little bit more, maybe one more month, to see if the most part of bugs are fixed. Thanks again. Pablo Morales On Nov 18, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Pablo, As Charles said, Aplevis did put up an article and somebody actually posted all the fixes yesterday. Anyhow, there has been some good progress with SIRI working much better with Voiceover and with notifications. For example, I was on the phone today when another call came in and Voiceover told me who the caller was without me taking my phone away from my ear. Some focus issues have also been resolved, but no, not every single bug has been fixed. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released There is an article about this at www.applevis.com --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:12 PM Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners
RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Hi Pablo, Of course you decide when to upgrade, but iOS 8.1.1 is in my opinion a pretty good compromise. Yes, there are some bugs, but some major ones have been fixed and some of the new features are nice. Like I said, you have the information and you decide. Apple is definitely planning lots of updates to iOS 8. Usually there is only 1 major update, e.g. in iOS 7 there was 7.1 and then 7.1.2 which was the last version. It took Apple until March to release iOS 7.1 whereas this time iOS 8.1 was released in October. There are lots of rumours that Apple has already been working on iOS 8.2 and I guess there is a chance that before 8.2 we’ll see 8.1.2 so like I said, Apple may not have released iOS 8 with a minimum of bugs, but they are working hard on making it better. Keep in mind that with Android you are largely at the mercy of carriers as to when you get an update or not and many carrier do their own customizations to Android which make accessibility more difficult. Regards, Sieghard Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Hi Seaghard. Thanks for your note. It is what I was asking, something clear, direct. Little bit IOs 8 is been better, but I will wait a little bit more, maybe one more month, to see if the most part of bugs are fixed. Thanks again. Pablo Morales On Nov 18, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca mailto:siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Pablo, As Charles said, Aplevis did put up an article and somebody actually posted all the fixes yesterday. Anyhow, there has been some good progress with SIRI working much better with Voiceover and with notifications. For example, I was on the phone today when another call came in and Voiceover told me who the caller was without me taking my phone away from my ear. Some focus issues have also been resolved, but no, not every single bug has been fixed. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released There is an article about this at www.applevis.com http://www.applevis.com --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:12 PM Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they are gone, or still they are in IOs? Thanks From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message
iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Yes, iOS 8.1.1 doesn't mention accessibility fixes but there seem to be a number of very good and very much needed improvements and I think anybody who hasn't upgraded now should find iOS 8 to be a pretty good experience. It will be interesting to hear what 4S users have to say regarding the responsiveness and overall performance. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Hi all I have been running the beta for over a week and have to say it's been a positive improvement on the 4s. Those scrolling issues talked about appear to be gone. The update will be good for all devices but specifically older ones as detailed in the update. On 17/11/2014 20:03, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Yes, iOS 8.1.1 doesn't mention accessibility fixes but there seem to be a number of very good and very much needed improvements and I think anybody who hasn't upgraded now should find iOS 8 to be a pretty good experience. It will be interesting to hear what 4S users have to say regarding the responsiveness and overall performance. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
If this is all true, it's the best thing since 8 hit the fan,.. sorry, the market. R. :- - Original Message - From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 7:46 PM Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Do you see any reasons a fairly new newbie should not update to this release, anything you can see that would not work propperly. and how do I perform this update feat? Eden On 11/17/2014 11:46 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
I certainly want to fix these problems because it will lock when Voice-over speaks, and Siri often doesn't finish what she's saying. Eden On 11/17/2014 11:46 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: is 8.1.1 has been released
Eden, the update fixes those problems. first things I noticed were those fixed and more response -Original Message- From: Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released I certainly want to fix these problems because it will lock when Voice-over speaks, and Siri often doesn't finish what she's saying. Eden On 11/17/2014 11:46 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
have they fixed the bug where buttons don't respond in things like the choice of games titles yet? Simon - Original Message - From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 7:46 PM Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
I have never closed apps or reset my network. I feel that it's a waste of time and not proven to be of value. It is a recommendation that is made by someone who does a podcast which some of us listen to. I am comfortable in saying that you will be okay avoiding these steps. On 11/17/14, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote: Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Yeah, same here, I just close my apps but apart from that I just go ahead with the update. On 17/11/2014 21:02, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: I have never closed apps or reset my network. I feel that it's a waste of time and not proven to be of value. It is a recommendation that is made by someone who does a podcast which some of us listen to. I am comfortable in saying that you will be okay avoiding these steps. On 11/17/14, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote: Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
so if i avoid these steps, how exactly do I update my phone is it like updating apps, and how do I find said update? eden On 11/17/2014 1:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: I have never closed apps or reset my network. I feel that it's a waste of time and not proven to be of value. It is a recommendation that is made by someone who does a podcast which some of us listen to. I am comfortable in saying that you will be okay avoiding these steps. On 11/17/14, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote: Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
No. Go to settings general software update. On 17/11/2014 21:22, Eden Kizer wrote: so if i avoid these steps, how exactly do I update my phone is it like updating apps, and how do I find said update? eden On 11/17/2014 1:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: I have never closed apps or reset my network. I feel that it's a waste of time and not proven to be of value. It is a recommendation that is made by someone who does a podcast which some of us listen to. I am comfortable in saying that you will be okay avoiding these steps. On 11/17/14, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote: Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list.
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
You may see a notification in the Notifications center (if you are connected to WiFi), when it is ready to be installed on your phone. - Original Message - From: Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:22 PM Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released so if i avoid these steps, how exactly do I update my phone is it like updating apps, and how do I find said update? eden On 11/17/2014 1:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: I have never closed apps or reset my network. I feel that it's a waste of time and not proven to be of value. It is a recommendation that is made by someone who does a podcast which some of us listen to. I am comfortable in saying that you will be okay avoiding these steps. On 11/17/14, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote: Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Eden, did you get the instructions which were posted earlier? if not: settings, general, update on update double tap and then accept! takes just a few seconds. ok, maybe minutes! lol -Original Message- From: Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released so if i avoid these steps, how exactly do I update my phone is it like updating apps, and how do I find said update? eden On 11/17/2014 1:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: I have never closed apps or reset my network. I feel that it's a waste of time and not proven to be of value. It is a recommendation that is made by someone who does a podcast which some of us listen to. I am comfortable in saying that you will be okay avoiding these steps. On 11/17/14, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote: Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Ok, thanks, was not sure, learned this in a class I took, but seriously who can remember it all, lol? Eden On 11/17/2014 1:26 PM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: No. Go to settings general software update. On 17/11/2014 21:22, Eden Kizer wrote: so if i avoid these steps, how exactly do I update my phone is it like updating apps, and how do I find said update? eden On 11/17/2014 1:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: I have never closed apps or reset my network. I feel that it's a waste of time and not proven to be of value. It is a recommendation that is made by someone who does a podcast which some of us listen to. I am comfortable in saying that you will be okay avoiding these steps. On 11/17/14, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote: Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
right yes, I did get instructions, and thanks for all help. Eden On 11/17/2014 3:26 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote: Eden, did you get the instructions which were posted earlier? if not: settings, general, update on update double tap and then accept! takes just a few seconds. ok, maybe minutes! lol -Original Message- From: Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released so if i avoid these steps, how exactly do I update my phone is it like updating apps, and how do I find said update? eden On 11/17/2014 1:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: I have never closed apps or reset my network. I feel that it's a waste of time and not proven to be of value. It is a recommendation that is made by someone who does a podcast which some of us listen to. I am comfortable in saying that you will be okay avoiding these steps. On 11/17/14, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote: Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Hi, I keep getting up date fails. Anyone else having this problem? I have the 4S with the most recent version except the one that just came out. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchel Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Eden, did you get the instructions which were posted earlier? if not: settings, general, update on update double tap and then accept! takes just a few seconds. ok, maybe minutes! lol -Original Message- From: Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released so if i avoid these steps, how exactly do I update my phone is it like updating apps, and how do I find said update? eden On 11/17/2014 1:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: I have never closed apps or reset my network. I feel that it's a waste of time and not proven to be of value. It is a recommendation that is made by someone who does a podcast which some of us listen to. I am comfortable in saying that you will be okay avoiding these steps. On 11/17/14, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote: Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running
RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
I'm especially interested in knowing if Braille notetakers work properly with 4s phones. I hope the brave upgraders will enlighten us. I use a Braillesense onHand display paired with my 4S and am still using 7.1. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hallsworth Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Hi all I have been running the beta for over a week and have to say it's been a positive improvement on the 4s. Those scrolling issues talked about appear to be gone. The update will be good for all devices but specifically older ones as detailed in the update. On 17/11/2014 20:03, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Yes, iOS 8.1.1 doesn't mention accessibility fixes but there seem to be a number of very good and very much needed improvements and I think anybody who hasn't upgraded now should find iOS 8 to be a pretty good experience. It will be interesting to hear what 4S users have to say regarding the responsiveness and overall performance. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4189/8587 - Release Date: 11/17/14 -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list
RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
What about Braille sluggishness? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4189/8587 - Release Date: 11/17/14 -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
I don't know if the Braille Sense On hand worked before on a 4s with 7.1 as I never used it, but other friends told me no problem, and i use 8.1.1 with mine, and it works great. Eden On 11/17/2014 4:27 PM, Dulce Weisenborn wrote: I'm especially interested in knowing if Braille notetakers work properly with 4s phones. I hope the brave upgraders will enlighten us. I use a Braillesense onHand display paired with my 4S and am still using 7.1. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hallsworth Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Hi all I have been running the beta for over a week and have to say it's been a positive improvement on the 4s. Those scrolling issues talked about appear to be gone. The update will be good for all devices but specifically older ones as detailed in the update. On 17/11/2014 20:03, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Yes, iOS 8.1.1 doesn't mention accessibility fixes but there seem to be a number of very good and very much needed improvements and I think anybody who hasn't upgraded now should find iOS 8 to be a pretty good experience. It will be interesting to hear what 4S users have to say regarding the responsiveness and overall performance. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Hi all. I wonder how many notifications Applevis listened to in the locked screen because not all notifications still aren't read out automatically. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On Nov 17, 2014, at 6:40 PM, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote: I don't know if the Braille Sense On hand worked before on a 4s with 7.1 as I never used it, but other friends told me no problem, and i use 8.1.1 with mine, and it works great. Eden On 11/17/2014 4:27 PM, Dulce Weisenborn wrote: I'm especially interested in knowing if Braille notetakers work properly with 4s phones. I hope the brave upgraders will enlighten us. I use a Braillesense onHand display paired with my 4S and am still using 7.1. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hallsworth Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Hi all I have been running the beta for over a week and have to say it's been a positive improvement on the 4s. Those scrolling issues talked about appear to be gone. The update will be good for all devices but specifically older ones as detailed in the update. On 17/11/2014 20:03, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Yes, iOS 8.1.1 doesn't mention accessibility fixes but there seem to be a number of very good and very much needed improvements and I think anybody who hasn't upgraded now should find iOS 8 to be a pretty good experience. It will be interesting to hear what 4S users have to say regarding the responsiveness and overall performance. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe
Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Some use ITunes to update their phones but I haven't done this since very early days of using an IPod. I find it very straightforward just to update over the air (WiFi). I always remove all apps from the switcher. Sometimes I have loads running and think there's no point in leaving them in the system as it just may be better for updating to have done it. I also reboot my phone and plug it in. You go to Settings, General and then Updates. You will be told if you have one and guided through. You can miss things if you leave your phone during update so may not know how far it's got but eventually, once updated, rebooted and put back any apps you have, it should come up speaking. You may then have to do a few little things to finish the setup, but you will be guided through that part. I do not have notification that I have the update yet. (Perhaps Santa's forgotten me), so I can't speak specifically to this one but have done a number now. It's not really that scary, honest! Hope this helps. Carol P - Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:26 PM Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released No. Go to settings general software update. On 17/11/2014 21:22, Eden Kizer wrote: so if i avoid these steps, how exactly do I update my phone is it like updating apps, and how do I find said update? eden On 11/17/2014 1:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: I have never closed apps or reset my network. I feel that it's a waste of time and not proven to be of value. It is a recommendation that is made by someone who does a podcast which some of us listen to. I am comfortable in saying that you will be okay avoiding these steps. On 11/17/14, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote: Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr
RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
Hi Christina and Eden, The least one should do before an update is to remove all apps from the app switcher and to turn off the phone, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on. This is just good practice because an iPhone which has not been rebooted for a long time can have stuff in memory and so on which may negatively impact an iOS update. Doing a Reset all Network Settings in Settings, General, Reset does in fact not delete any networks, but it will as the name indicates reset all network modems to factory settings and it will delete your WiFi password which means after you reboot the phone you have to go to Settings, WiFi and reconnect to your WiFi. However, it will also clear out anything which potentially could effect an update from memory and it is something some people who know a thing about iOS recommend. It's not strictly necessary, but while I have often read on the list how people had problems where an update didn't complete or really messed up the phone, I have never in 5 years had a single problem with an update not going perfectly smooth and I do follow my own advice here. Regards, sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eden Kizer Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. eden On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as well as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad wifi+cellular. On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis: 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon Mobile app. 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification is received, even when the device is locked. 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone calls. 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details screen of message threads that contain attachments. It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S and the older iPads. Wayne On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes 2. Make sure all apps are updated 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will also reboot your phone. Happy updating, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list
