Hi,
I got my phone back to normal after recovering it but now I’m having trouble
syncing the music.
I want to manually manage music since I have to much music for the phone to
sync it all.
When I go to about on the phone it says my music is 0 but when I go in to music
there are a whole
I'm experiencing the same frustrating behavior. I'm not sure if it's refreshing
or not, but when attempting to swipe through the states, to download individual
maps, the sound of a page loading is heard, and it's near impossible to get to
the desired state without pure luck. I've haven't
Is this the same thing as having favourites?
That is what I want to do.
Jen
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Hi Jen,
To add pages, double-tap the Pages button in
Christine
Just wondering if, when you said that you have the Australian voice active, you
meant the speech output or the Siri region set to Australia. You can change the
speech output voice all you like and I don’t think it affects Siri or dictation
at all (well, only how dictated text is
Hi,
A friend sent me a book in PDF format. I was wondering how I could best
read it.
I'd love to be able to read the book easily.
Tom
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is there any free apps to upload video to tube
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Hi Tom,
You could use iBooks from Apple which is free and where Voiceover would read
the book.
If you don't mind spending $9.99 and want to use nicer voices, you could get
Voice Dream Reader. It will Play the book and you can use any number of
very high quality voices. There have been a lot
I have noticed that, if you pause before dictating punctuation, such as
considering whether to end your thought there or not, the word will be
inserted, rather than the symbol. It really does force you to think before
you speak.
Eric
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Russ, I just ordered a refurbished Mini yesterday for the reason you
mention, i.e., better sound for reading BARD books. I got a 32GB black for
$360-something, including taxes. I could have waited for a refurbished new
Mini, but I am not sure the improvements in processor and screen do much for
my
I have the latest version of ITunes -- latest as of a week or so ago. I
could not find the version number right off.
I am having problems with lists. I can no longer skip to the bottom or top
of a list of songs Also, I cannot Control-A to select the entire list.
If anyone has any hints on using
The car came to a full Stop At the end of the
I just tried that using Siri and found that I had to typing the words full and
stop if I say them together then the punctuation is inserted regardless of its
place in the sentence.
This is all very interesting I must say and it means that we have
Troy,
I've had this happen also, but usually clearing the music app from the
app switcher then going back in and retrying the station will work.
Sometimes it takes several seconds for the music to begin playing. If
you've tried this the only other suggestion I have is to recreate the
station.
Hello, everyone.
I have an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.0.3. I cannot figure out how to
delete an entire music album. If I open the Music app, select More,
and select Albums, I can find any album I want. However, if I flick
down from the album's name, no delete option appears. If I double-tap
and
I've just installed an update to the above app on my iphone5 with ios7.03
and it now seems not to be accessible with vo. Can anyone else confirm this?
Cheers
Alex
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I think Troy's problem has more to do after he has installed the maps
and is trying to run the program.
On 10/24/13, Brett C. blindinnova...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm experiencing the same frustrating behavior. I'm not sure if it's
refreshing or not, but when attempting to swipe through the states,
Hi, I changed the subject line to better reflect my message and to
again, correct the wrong version number which many people are using.
Folks, it's 7.0.3, not 7.3, not 7.03, and not anything else. smile.
Anyway, one of the things I must agree with for sure is the
hypersensitivity of the
Hello Brett and all:
OK, let me see if I understand. you are experiencing refreshing when attempting
to download individual maps? so, you are not attempting to download all of the
maps at once? Is that correct?
The answer is going to be the same though I wanted to make sure that I
understood
The annoying one for me was when I would want to edit text, pressing the
delete button would be often interpreted as a swipe up or swipe down
first, and then my cursor would be off. The work around for me when that
happened was to start with my finger on the left edge, like on the more
numbers
Hi Nicki, I can confirm this with my Focus Braille display as well. I'm
hoping that a message to Apple accessibility will be looked into about
this. If you send one as well it will help.
I hope you wrote them.
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I have an iPhone 4S and I got the free version of Garage Band. I think it
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Any idea how an extracted voice memo can be edited? thanks
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What’s up guys,
on Monday, I updated to the the latest Voxer walki talki app. I started
having problems with it on Tuesday. The problems I was having was that the app
would crash at times when I’m trying to send out a audio vox message by
pressing and holding the hold-to-talk button. I had
Please know that we appreciate you and other developers who follow lists such
as this and work so hard to respond to customers’ needs and concerns.
From: TapTapSee
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 7:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: TapTapSee Update Resolves Double Voice Issue
New update available. iOS 7.0.3. They say it contains improvements and big
fixes. As of now my iPhone 4S and iPad 3 with iOS 7.0.2 are terribly sluggish
and very frustrating. Lets hope this helps.
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Hi Bob;
Make sure quick nav is turned on.
Press the up and doown arrows simutamelously.
Hope this helps.
Anthony
Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!
On Oct 23, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net wrote:
Hello everybody:
I have upgraded three devices to the
Hi Jen,
pages (located on the bottom right of the screen on safari) is not the
same thing as favorites/bookmarks. If you want to add a bookmark, on IOS 6,
you must go to utilities then bookmark. On IOS 7, you must go to share then
bookmark. Then when you go to the bookmark tab, you will
VO K.
Are you talking bout the mac?
From: Pinky
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Keyboard keys to learn new keyboard
Hi
I posted this earlier but I did not get a response. I would like to know what
three keys that you hold down to learn
i just found a news app on the apple viz sight. the app is called WLOS ABC13 it
is a very accessible news app. and the first time you oppen the app it asks if
it can send you push notafacations.
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What app's do you guys use on a daily basis?
As for me, Taptapsee, Google maps, money identifier looktell, Pandora,
tabatalk. Curious on what others are using since we may discover new app's
b sharing this info.
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I'm having the same problem as well! Hopefully they will make a new update and
fix this issue.
Hope Paulos
On Oct 24, 2013, at 4:09 AM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:
What’s up guys,
on Monday, I updated to the the latest Voxer walki talki app. I started
having
Here are some of the ones I use regularly: Audible, the BARD Mobile
app, TuneIn Radio, Muxica, iAssociate 2, TweetList, Daily Devo and
others.
Regards,
Wayne
On 10/24/13, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:
What app's do you guys use on a daily basis?
As for me, Taptapsee, Google
I use facebook twitterific skype solara iBlink radio netflix ABC family tune in
radio
From: Feliciano G
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What app's do you use the most on a daily basis?
What app's do you guys use on a daily basis?
As for me,
Hi,
I'm sorry if I didn't explain properly. I was not complaining about his
questions not being specific. I simply wanted to help by pointing out that
you do get more specific answers on this list if your questions are
specific.
Sorry that I don't buy the fact of having to wait to get an
Hi all. Just found this deal for iPhone 5/5s users. It's a battery case
for the iPhone 5 or 5s. It's a capacity of 2400 MaH, which means it
should charge your phone fully at least one and a half times more than
its own battery. Great if you want a case. Note that I'm only passing
this along, I
Bard mobile, downcast, voice dream reader.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What app's do you use the most on a daily basis?
What app's do you guys use on a daily basis?
As for me, Taptapsee, Google
I do have a speaker I plugin. The thing I like about the ipad, it would
give good sound and would be all in one device for moving around the house.
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Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's
I'll take a look at referbished ipads. I bought a referbished ipod touch
5th generation a while back.
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From: SSEric
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 2:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's iPad event
Russ, I just ordered a refurbished Mini
I see with the latest update to ios 7, I still get the screen locked message
when I change the volume while any audio content is playing. Anyone else
have this issue?
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I updated Voice Dream and it is a disaster for me.
Winston did not recognize the bugs I reported and advised me to backup my
database, delete the app and re-install it.
I did that.
I now cannot open the app.
The bugs I had run into with the app were:
After experimenting with the new
Hi, just a small correction that it's iOS 7.0.3, not 7.3. That makes a
huge difference. grin.
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On 10/23/2013 2:05 PM, Troy
I haven't tried it just yet, but this latest update promises to be a
very nice one for sure. The below are the changes in the latest version
which I just saw in the App Store. At the end of the message is a link
to the app for those who may not know what Voice Dream Reader is so you
can find
Do you think this app will ever be able to play audio Daisy books? I would love
to be able to access and copy books across from drop box and play them right
inside this app.
Thanks
On 24 Oct 2013, at 15:15, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:
I haven't tried it just yet, but this
Hi,
If the PDF contains readable text, rather than being scanned images, you can
read it in iBooks.
Best,
Anna
On Oct 24, 2013, at 2:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
Hi Tom,
You could use iBooks from Apple which is free and where Voiceover would read
the book.
If you
Yes, and have just reported it. It happens with the volume buttons on the side
of the phone and also with inline controls on headphones. Not sure why this is
happening, as the screen does not even wake up
I guess the screen is well locked, as VO locks it twice now whilst audio is
playing
Dear listers
Since iOS7 whenever you are listening to media and change the volume using the
remote the screen briefly lights up and VoiceOver speaks some element of it
(perhaps the time, perhaps a notification) and then a second or two later says
‘Screen locked’. Both lots of VoiceOver speaking
It is a disaster for me.
As I tried to state in a previous note this morning.
After using the highlight feature, it gets stuck in various screens like
voice settings, bookmarks, and now I can't open it after following Winston's
advice to delete the app, install it again and restore my backed up
You ccan tap
with two fingers once to pause speech
From: Robin Christopherson
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Volume on remote and lighting up screen
Dear listers
Since iOS7 whenever you are listening to media and change the volume using the
I have an ipod touch 5th generation where this is happening.
-Original Message-
From: Chris Moore
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Changing volume lock screen message.
Yes, and have just reported it. It happens with the volume buttons
I take it, If I use it without using the highlight feature I should be ok?
-Original Message-
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new update to Voice Dream Reader 2.9.0
It is a disaster for me.
As I tried to state in
Your Guess is as good as mine.
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Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new update to Voice Dream Reader 2.9.0
I take it, If I use it
Hi all,
The moderator of the Macvisionaries list just told the list that he is pretty
sure he has fixed the sign-up problems. The group is still moderator-approved,
but a setting was changed from allowing anyone to ask, to invite-only. He has
changed it back and has no idea how it happened in
Geez, I’m beginning to worry about my 5s.
I never experienced the hyper sensitivity with the screen like you have all
commented on.
It still seems to be just the same after the latest update to me.
I know there is areduced motion setting, but I never looked at that.
Maybe, I just don’t move
I think I'll wait before I try it.
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Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new update to Voice Dream Reader 2.9.0
Your Guess is as good as mine.
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From:
You toggle quicknav on and off by pressing the left and right arrow keys
at the same time.
On 10/23/2013 04:13 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:
Hi Bob;
Make sure quick nav is turned on.
Press the up and doown arrows simutamelously.
Hope this helps.
Anthony
Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!
On Oct
Agreed. I was on the Apple site yesterday trying to put in for a job, and was
unable to check a radio button on my iPhone. I had to use Firefox to complete
the application process. Hopefully, we will see a fix in 7.1.
Sent from my iPad Mini
On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Peter Holdstock
It's true questions are answered quickly on the list, but I was thinking
of the situation where the onion is being pealed. I ask a specific
question like how to get to the second page of your home pages and then
ask a question on how to move apps from page to page and then a question
on how to
It only appears if you have a passcode set.
E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com
On 23/10/2013 20:10, Troy Sullivan wrote:
Hi,
a while back I read some posts where people had an emergency button (ice) on
their lock screen, why don't I have this button? How do I add an ice
Downcast, NFB Newsline, TweetList, Feedller, Mail, Bard Mobile,
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 6:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What app's do you use the most
Stuff that hasn't been mentioned yet:
lire, instapaper, ifarcle, Abfahrtsmonitor, (I think the last only
works in Germany)
Guenni
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Hi, no idea. It can't play any sort of DRM protected books. So, it
depends on which kinds of daisy books. You might want to drop a line to
the developer and ask. He's very good about responding.
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I guess I would add iCab Mobile, iCatcher, Wikipanion and Amazon Mobile. I also
try to write some story ideas in Elements and random nonsense in My Daily
Thoughts, but I've been pretty spotty on that lately.
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Anne Günther ag82...@leseguenni.de
If your iPhone 4S is sluggish with iOS 7 you really should invest the time
in doing a complete restore, set up as a new device and then slowly add back
first your most important apps, then those you don't use so often, then
resync your music if you have any on the iPhone etc. You will also have to
Hi Russ,
That is true and as I said, I don't want to talk you out of getting an iPad,
especially now with the iPad Mini getting such a nice upgrade I'll probably
buy one sooner or later because I listen to Audible a lot as well. I would
easily get 2 or maybe even 3 days out of my iPhone battery
Hi Crystal.
I have an iPhone 4, and I also didn't notice the sensitivity issue on my
iPhone with iOs 7. I evidently use my gestures similar to the way you do,
so I wouldn't worry about it. As someone said, If it ain't broke, don't
fix it. I don't doubt those who had the issue, I just never
Lire for RSS
BARD for reading
NFB Newsline for newspapers
Bank and credit card apps
Skype
Dropbox and Dropvox
Elements, a Dropbox editor
TuneIn and Ootunes radio
Amazon (shopping)
MiniKeePass for password management
Glucose Buddy for monitoring blood sugar for diabetes
Of course, I use most of
Hi all,
Back when I updated to iOS 7, I had a problem when editing text I had
dictated into a text field. The text would read just fine after dictation
but, when I navigated through the text character by character making changes
as I went, it caused VoiceOver to read the updated text as a
Beyond the basics supplied, Talking tuner, 0870 which is a phone number
lookup thing for the UK, Ariadne and AroundMe occasionally, PayPal more
rarely, mBraille the most for writing in everything else.
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From: Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com
To:
It looks like VO is reading the highlights differently from the standard text.
For the sighted, this makes it easier to tell which text has been changed, and
which text iOS is unsure was translated correctly when using speech
recognition. Either, VO ignores the highlighting, and we do not know
reggie and Allegra
On Oct 24, 2013, at 1:23 PM, SSEric sseri...@gmail.com wrote:
Lire for RSS
BARD for reading
I use Solara, dice ``world, and hanging with friends along with mBraille and
ootunes. Also use tap tap see.
NFB Newsline for newspapers
Bank and credit card apps
Skype
Dropbox and
Aside from the ones already mentionned:
Allrecipes
Grocery Pal
OneTap
TV Guide
TapTapSee
All Access Menus
Pam
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Regina
Alvarado [reggie.alvar...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24,
I think it’s great. It means you can input your passcode without headphones and
everyone hearing it. As you are inputting numbers the chances of it getting it
wrong are slim and I’ve found I don’t have to be very accurate with how I draw
the numbers at all. Every podcast I’ve heard on this
Hi all,
In the Apple store app and it was also on the Apple site they have a new
leather case for the 5 and the 5s. It's suppose to fit the 5s snug and they
say even all the holes line up etc. It sounds nice and I'd like to get one but
before I shell out 40 bucks I was wondering if anybody
MBraille Fleksy Baby Adoptor Holiday and Pro Little Girl Magic and
Orange Tree.
E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com
On 24/10/2013 09:44, Feliciano G wrote:
What app's do you guys use on a daily basis?
As for me, Taptapsee, Google maps, money identifier looktell, Pandora,
Bard Mobile: for NLS Talking Bookse
24-7 Football: NFL football news etc.
AP Mobile: A news app
Blind Bargains: Has classified adds too.
Drop Box
Eye Note: A money identifier appNote: can read the new hundred dollar bill
too.
Disteno Games: Accessible games from the days of DOS.
Tap Tap See
It is also worth a mention that if you are looking to stop other people hearing
your password and know your keypad ok you can three finger double tap to mute
speech, you will still get the clicks. This assumes you don't have Zoom turned
on with Voice Over where you will find a three finger
You're right. Thanks!
On 10/24/13, Tom rash dadnthed...@gmail.com wrote:
I have an iPhone 4S and I got the free version of Garage Band. I think it
was in the iLife section. that was the only free app within the iLife app.
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From: Christopher Chaltain
It's called PDF searchable The management company we use for our home
owner's association sends me home owner documentation in this format instead
of the regular PDF format which as you know is useless for the blind
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Hi Alan,
I did buy one when I ordered my iPhone and it of course showed up after a
week whereas my iPhone took almost 4 weeks. In my book it's a disappointment
and I certainly don't think it's worth $40. I would love to send it back to
Apple, but I decided to keep it in a very safe place until
I just upgraded IOS to 7.0.3 on my 4-S. The problems I am about to
outline are not
peculiar to 7.0.3, at least I don't think so.
I installed iHeart radio the latest version) on my iPhone this morning.
I had to
get sighted help with a part of the setup as I could not double tap the
gender
I have one of these cases and I'm very please with it. All the holes are
exposed all the buttons are available for use. The phone is snug inside the
case and I have no concerns about a coming out. Originally, I had used a belt
clip but decided not to go that route this time, because a couple of
I'm not certain which case you got, I know there are number of other cases that
Apple sells. My case has no older to it. But this is a subjective thing and
what's good for one is probably not good for another.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 24, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
Well, I have a concern about this topic. I am herding some opinions about
iPhone 5s cases, but really I can't get to any decision without a clear
description of each case.
For example, I am aware about the cost of the lifeprove case, and it is pretty
expensive, even though I know also that they
Has the accessibility of AP Mobile improved over the past year or so? It was
kind of spotty accessibility for me when I first tried it.
Thanks.
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Sent: Thursday, October 24,
Seriously, I turned Pass Code back on when I learned of the hand writing
feature -- it's great!
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Susan,
No problem! I'm happy to hear feedback about our app, whether it is
positive or negative. This way we will always have the user in mind and
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Thank you for taking the time to write such a warm comment. *smile*
Best Wishes,
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Hi,
I have one of these cases, and it's pretty good. It lines up well with the
connectors and buttons, it doesn't take up a lot of extra room, and I think it
will provide basic protection, though it doesn't cover the screen at all, so it
certainly won't protect the phone from water, scratches
Neal,
Yes, several of us are getting this. I've reported it to
accessibil...@apple.com and got a response that this issue was currently
being investigated.
Best Regards,
Rick alfaro
On 10/23/2013 10:59 AM, Neal Ewers wrote:
Hi, this is by no means a show stopper at all, but I am curious
Alan,
Yes, I have a black one. It fits the 5s like a glove and according to my
wife it has a real handsome look to it. Personally, I don't feel it's
worth $40 however. I have this case because I got it for free. It was
sent to me by Apple in apology for a mistake they made on my original
If you have a 5s, that's considered a new device so iWork and iLife
suites are both free. Garage Band is part of the iLife suite.
Best Regards,
Rick alfaro
On 10/23/2013 9:52 PM, Kliphton --- wrote:
That sucks, I have a iPhone5s, and I don't get it?
Kliphton
(iMessage)
Raul,
Have you figured out yet how mp3 audio books are added?
Best Regards,
Rick alfaro
On 10/24/2013 12:26 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Hi, no idea. It can't play any sort of DRM protected books. So, it
depends on which kinds of daisy books. You might want to drop a line to
the developer
Hi Kay,
You sent a message to the VI phones group without any text. I'm switching my
email over to my IPhone as well, hope to get away from the cable company after
the first of the year.
Fred
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Hi,
I had that problem. It will reset to factory but you will get a chance to
restore from your backup and you will get everything back like it never
happened. Your VO should start by itself like it did for me but, if it
doesn't, triple tap your home utton.
Ron Danvers
Falling down is part
Hi, unfortunately not. I've been busy with other things and haven't had
time to play like I was hoping.
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On 10/24/2013 3:25 PM,
Hi Jen,
Don't panic yet. Try what Apple got me to do. Hold the home and the lock
buttons down together for about 30 seconds to a minute. At some point, the
phone should start talking to you. You can, at that point, flick through
the options and one of them should be restore. I think you'll
Hi Jen,
If that is the case, it will get to a point where it will ask you if you
want to setup as a new phone or restore from a backup. Select the restore
from a backup and you should be in business.
Ron Danvers
Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...
-Original
I find that in iOS 7, Voice Over is losing focus in some email links.
This especially happens to phone numbers. The VO focus does not come
on the phone number at all instead when voice over reads the phone
number the focus is actually on the inbox!! Any workaround this?
Thank you.
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On a daily basis I use Nfb Newsline, Pandora, iTunes Radio, the mail, phone and
messages apps. Other frequently-used apps are TapTapSee, Money Reader, Seeing
Eye Gps, TV Guide, and the w and y pages app. My phone's loaded with all kinds
of useful utility apps and there's not a whole lot of
Yeah, they just came out with a new AP mobile app that's suppose to work
great with iOS 7 and optimized for the 5 and 5s. It was on my iPhone 4 so
when I backed up all my apps and then synced them to my new phone, there it
was. I noticed that it was automatically updated to the latest
I guess then I could go with a screen protector.
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Regards,
Alan
Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now!
Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
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Thanks for this my friend. When I read it's thin and sleek etc, I'm thinking
it's still leather and that might be because it's thin enough to read the
newspaper through. grin Thanks!
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Regards,
Alan
Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?
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