Re: Apple blew it.

2012-05-09 Thread Ricardo Walker
Oh god! Are you serious? Did antenna gate not happen under Jobs watch? The battery issues? And a bunch of other bugs long fixed and forgotten? How can you put out millions of handsets, with an OS with billions of lines of code and not have bugs? I dare say its impossible. I find it hard

RE: Apple blew it.

2012-05-09 Thread Not By Sight
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: May-08-12 4:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple blew it. This is my last note on this topic. In this case, it is actually all Apples fault. They had the HIMS drivers working fine in IOS 5.0. Apple broke

Re: Apple blew it.

2012-05-09 Thread Ricardo Walker
Of Richard Turner Sent: May-08-12 4:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple blew it. This is my last note on this topic. In this case, it is actually all Apples fault. They had the HIMS drivers working fine in IOS 5.0. Apple broke that in 5.1 when they added the Humanware

RE: Apple blew it.

2012-05-09 Thread Daniel Miller
AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple blew it. Hi, I think the U.S. government has very little to do with Apple's inclusion of accessibility in most of their products. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 9, 2012, at 7:57

Re: Apple blew it.

2012-05-09 Thread Les Kriegler
Subject: Re: Apple blew it. This is my last note on this topic. In this case, it is actually all Apples fault. They had the HIMS drivers working fine in IOS 5.0. Apple broke that in 5.1 when they added the Humanware Brailliant BI. Since HIMS was coming out with a new braille display

Re: Apple blew it.

2012-05-09 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: May-08-12 4:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple blew it. This is my last note on this topic. In this case, it is actually all Apples fault. They had the HIMS drivers working fine

Re: Apple blew it.

2012-05-09 Thread paras shah
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple blew it. This is my last note on this topic. In this case, it is actually all Apples fault. They had the HIMS drivers working fine in IOS 5.0. Apple broke that in 5.1 when they added the Humanware Brailliant BI. Since HIMS was coming out with a new braille display

Re: Apple blew it.

2012-05-09 Thread Dan
PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple blew it. This is my last note on this topic. In this case, it is actually all Apples fault. They had the HIMS drivers working fine in IOS 5.0. Apple broke that in 5.1 when they added the Humanware Brailliant BI. Since HIMS was coming out

Re: Apple blew it.

2012-05-09 Thread Cara Quinn
I don't think that people need to grin and bear it so to speak. I think that this is actually a dangerous attitude to adopt. We got access because it was known that we really really needed and wanted it. If we'd just kept on being content with what we'd had before, we'd probably still have just

Apple blew it.

2012-05-08 Thread Richard Turner
Apple did not fix the issue with the HIMS braille devices in IOS 5.1.1. They also did not fix the bug with setting an all-day appointment. Please write accessibil...@apple.com and let them know how unacceptable this is. Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: Apple blew it.

2012-05-08 Thread paras shah
Hi guys, you have to understand that this was a verry miner update. I am sure it will be fixed in 6.0 On 5/8/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: Apple did not fix the issue with the HIMS braille devices in IOS 5.1.1. They also did not fix the bug with setting an all-day

Re: Apple blew it.

2012-05-08 Thread Herv
It's not all that unacceptable. Be happy we can even use it! Quit your complaining On 2012-05-08, at 1:08 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: Apple did not fix the issue with the HIMS braille devices in IOS 5.1.1. They also did not fix the bug with setting an all-day

Re: Apple blew it.

2012-05-08 Thread Richard Turner
This is my last note on this topic. In this case, it is actually all Apples fault. They had the HIMS drivers working fine in IOS 5.0. Apple broke that in 5.1 when they added the Humanware Brailliant BI. Since HIMS was coming out with a new braille display and a new note taker, they gave Apple

Re: Apple blew it.

2012-05-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm also not sure it's even a desirable feature. One of the strengths of Apple, for blind users, is that VoiceOver is a core component of the OS. I think we want to keep this. My concern is that if they have a separate path for VO bugs then it may ease us into 2nd class citizens. I think the

Re: Apple blew it.

2012-05-08 Thread Ed Worrell
Just my two cents here, the way I understand it is that this update was just fixing a few security holes, just be paiciant. I think that there will be some improvment in a bigger update. I don't think that Steve passing has anything to do with quality control, or lack of accessibility bugs