RE: iMessages help needed

[Dennis Long]

Thanks that worked.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 11:59 PM
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Subject: Re: iMessages help needed

 

If you do not have iMessages set to save your voice messages that it’s going to 
expire after two minutes what I would do is the following.

Go to settings go to where messages is located scroll down until you get to 
audio messages there should be an option to never expire you wanna double tap 
that one and then you’ll be able to see voice messages for much longer. If this 
does not help write in again and someone will hopefully be able to help you out 
there.

 

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On Jun 1, 2021, at 7:53 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I had someone send me a voice message on I messages.  I see my voice messages.  
I don’t see the one they sent me what am I doing wrong?

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Re: iMessages help needed

[CHELA Robles]

If you do not have iMessages set to save your voice messages that it’s going to 
expire after two minutes what I would do is the following.
Go to settings go to where messages is located scroll down until you get to 
audio messages there should be an option to never expire you wanna double tap 
that one and then you’ll be able to see voice messages for much longer. If this 
does not help write in again and someone will hopefully be able to help you out 
there.

Sent from my iPhone

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> I had someone send me a voice message on I messages.  I see my voice 
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Re: iMessages question

[Robin Frost]

  
Hi,
I just wanted to reply once again to
that which Richard pointed out.  So often we think we shouldn't
report something to Apple because what if it's only happening to
us or conversely what if others have reported it already then we
maybe shouldn't or don't have to do so. I just reported this
issue to Apple and it was easily replicated by the agent on his
device and when he checked the system it was a known issue Apple
was investigating but he added my case to the ticket so as to
give the issue more weight. So if anyone else can replicate this
issue please join me in reporting it to Apple so this
functionality we formerly had can hopefully be restored.
Thanks.
Robin


On 2/20/2020 5:18 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  You are right.
  I hadn't noticed.
  You may want to call Apple Accessibility, or write them along
with giving feedback through www.apple.com/feedback
  '


  
  
  
  
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  On Feb 20, 2020, at 1:21 PM, Robin
Frost  wrote:

  


  
Hi,
I've noticed recently that
when composing a new iMessage when I hit add contact and
select my contact instead of announcing both their name
and number in the to field VoiceOver is only saying the
number. I've looked everywhere to see if a setting
governs this. I've googled and found forum posts saying
disable mms and re-enable this in order to set this
right but so far no joy.  Is this a bug is this a new
way of doing things and if so why? Is there a fix for
this?
Am I the only one
experiencing this on an iPhone Pro Max running the
latest version of iOS13?

  
Thanks in advance.
Robin


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Re: iMessages question

[Robin Frost]

  
Hi,
Glad it wasn't just me one sometimes
wonders about these things.  I will contact them indeed as it is
kind of annoying to me for while I usually add the person I want
I don't always know their phone number by heart so then doubt my
choice.
Thanks so much for replying.
Robin


On 2/20/2020 5:18 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  You are right.
  I hadn't noticed.
  You may want to call Apple Accessibility, or write them along
with giving feedback through www.apple.com/feedback
  '


  
  
  
  
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  On Feb 20, 2020, at 1:21 PM, Robin
Frost  wrote:

  


  
Hi,
I've noticed recently that
when composing a new iMessage when I hit add contact and
select my contact instead of announcing both their name
and number in the to field VoiceOver is only saying the
number. I've looked everywhere to see if a setting
governs this. I've googled and found forum posts saying
disable mms and re-enable this in order to set this
right but so far no joy.  Is this a bug is this a new
way of doing things and if so why? Is there a fix for
this?
Am I the only one
experiencing this on an iPhone Pro Max running the
latest version of iOS13?

  
Thanks in advance.
Robin


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Re: iMessages question

[Richard Turner]

You are right.
I hadn't noticed.
You may want to call Apple Accessibility, or write them along with giving 
feedback through www.apple.com/feedback
'



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On Feb 20, 2020, at 1:21 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:



Hi,

I've noticed recently that when composing a new iMessage when I hit add contact 
and select my contact instead of announcing both their name and number in the 
to field VoiceOver is only saying the number. I've looked everywhere to see if 
a setting governs this. I've googled and found forum posts saying disable mms 
and re-enable this in order to set this right but so far no joy.  Is this a bug 
is this a new way of doing things and if so why? Is there a fix for this?

Am I the only one experiencing this on an iPhone Pro Max running the latest 
version of iOS13?


Thanks in advance.

Robin


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Re: iMessages while using a braille display.

[Sadam Ahmed]

I believe you may have the bi-14 Brailliant display  from Humanware.

If this is the case, Kitty is quite correct, you can try downloading the 
Brailliant Sync from the App Store.


Although, from reading your question, I'd agree with Richard, it would 
be worth contacting Apple and letting them know as it sounds like 
something they would need to look at in terms of an  iOS feature request 
instead of the display's vendor.




On 9/21/2018 1:43 AM, kitty hevener wrote:
okay, I am not familiar with that one.  I use the hims product line.  
I did read where there apparently is a ap that is free designed for 
the brailliant.  Maybe someone else has more info.


-Original Message- From: Shameless FanGirl
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages while using a braille display.

It’s one of the Brailliant variants. Their
latest model.
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2018, at 6:56 AM, kitty hevener  
wrote:


what braille display are you using?  I only ask because I assume 
different displays work differently.


-Original Message- From: Shameless FanGirl
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iMessages while using a braille display.

Hi all,


I'm a reasonably new-comer to this technokogy, and I'm curious as to 
whether or not anyone else finds the "Contact is typing" or that 
they've stopped typing messages which disrupt the entire writing 
process messages to be as annoying as I do. Or, is there a way to 
make one's display less...verbose? How do the rest of you who are 
display users find the state of braille on iOS generally? Like I 
said, I'm a new display user, so am perfectly willing to admit the 
issue is something I'm not doing correctly, so I'm reaching out in 
hopes that isn't some half-baked bug...


thanks in advance everyone, for any light you're able to shed on this.

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Re: iMessages while using a braille display.

[kitty hevener]

okay, I am not familiar with that one.  I use the hims product line.  I did 
read where there apparently is a ap that is free designed for the 
brailliant.  Maybe someone else has more info.


-Original Message- 
From: Shameless FanGirl

Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages while using a braille display.

It’s one of the Brailliant variants. Their
latest model.
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 20, 2018, at 6:56 AM, kitty hevener  wrote:

what braille display are you using?  I only ask because I assume different 
displays work differently.


-Original Message- From: Shameless FanGirl
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iMessages while using a braille display.

Hi all,


I'm a reasonably new-comer to this technokogy, and I'm curious as to 
whether or not anyone else finds the "Contact is typing" or that they've 
stopped typing messages which disrupt the entire writing process messages 
to be as annoying as I do. Or, is there a way to make one's display 
less...verbose? How do the rest of you who are display users find the 
state of braille on iOS generally? Like I said, I'm a new display user, so 
am perfectly willing to admit the issue is something I'm not doing 
correctly, so I'm reaching out in hopes that isn't some half-baked bug...


thanks in advance everyone, for any light you're able to shed on this.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: iMessages while using a braille display.

[Richard Turner]

That message is spoken, and for deaf/blind folks using a braille display they 
get what hearing/blind get.  Yes, it is annoying whether using a braille 
display or not, but I've not found a way to turn it off.
This might be a good thing to request from Apple, to make that an optional 
setting.

Richard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Shameless FanGirl
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages while using a braille display.

It’s one of the Brailliant variants. Their latest model. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 6:56 AM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> what braille display are you using?  I only ask because I assume different 
> displays work differently.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Shameless FanGirl
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> Subject: iMessages while using a braille display.
> 
> Hi all,
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> I'm a reasonably new-comer to this technokogy, and I'm curious as to whether 
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> typing messages which disrupt the entire writing process messages to be as 
> annoying as I do. Or, is there a way to make one's display less...verbose? 
> How do the rest of you who are display users find the state of braille on iOS 
> generally? Like I said, I'm a new display user, so am perfectly willing to 
> admit the issue is something I'm not doing correctly, so I'm reaching out in 
> hopes that isn't some half-baked bug...
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> thanks in advance everyone, for any light you're able to shed on this.
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Re: iMessages while using a braille display.

[Shameless FanGirl]

It’s one of the Brailliant variants. Their
latest model. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 6:56 AM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> what braille display are you using?  I only ask because I assume different 
> displays work differently.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Shameless FanGirl
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iMessages while using a braille display.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> I'm a reasonably new-comer to this technokogy, and I'm curious as to whether 
> or not anyone else finds the "Contact is typing" or that they've stopped 
> typing messages which disrupt the entire writing process messages to be as 
> annoying as I do. Or, is there a way to make one's display less...verbose? 
> How do the rest of you who are display users find the state of braille on iOS 
> generally? Like I said, I'm a new display user, so am perfectly willing to 
> admit the issue is something I'm not doing correctly, so I'm reaching out in 
> hopes that isn't some half-baked bug...
> 
> thanks in advance everyone, for any light you're able to shed on this.
> 
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Re: iMessages while using a braille display.

[kitty hevener]

what braille display are you using?  I only ask because I assume different 
displays work differently.


-Original Message- 
From: Shameless FanGirl

Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iMessages while using a braille display.

Hi all,


I'm a reasonably new-comer to this technokogy, and I'm curious as to whether 
or not anyone else finds the "Contact is typing" or that they've stopped 
typing messages which disrupt the entire writing process messages to be as 
annoying as I do. Or, is there a way to make one's display less...verbose? 
How do the rest of you who are display users find the state of braille on 
iOS generally? Like I said, I'm a new display user, so am perfectly willing 
to admit the issue is something I'm not doing correctly, so I'm reaching out 
in hopes that isn't some half-baked bug...


thanks in advance everyone, for any light you're able to shed on this.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: iMessages

[Joseph Hudson]

You can, if you go under settings,/Soundz/text tone.

> On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Donna <merma...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Joseph & Sieghard!
> 
> Geez, I would have never found it. Would make more sense if one was able to 
> see the text tone being used, like the ringtone that is displayed without 
> having to first tap the Edit button. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>>  
>> Joseph basically gave you the correct information, just to add a bit to it 
>> the exact label you are looking for when you are editing a contact is "Text 
>> Tone" and it is one swipe to the right past "Ringtone". This is, however, 
>> not at the bottom but sort of in the middle. If you swipe it's past the 
>> phone numbers and before where you can enter a person's or company's 
>> URL/website.
>> Initially it will say "Text tone, default", once you double tap on it you 
>> are in the area where you can pick from any available text tones including 
>> any custom tones you may have added.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: iMessages
>>  
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>> need to find this place where it says text tone or ring tone. These can be 
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>> On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Donna <merma...@bellsouth.net 
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>>  
>> Hi All
>> 
>> Is there a way to set different text tones for contacts? A friend said that 
>> she has a 2 different tones, 1 ringtone & the other a text tone, set for her 
>> husband & other contacts. I have looked in the phone app, the contacts app & 
>> settings. Am I overlooking the setting to do this? Or was this only possible 
>> in past versions of IOS? I have an iPhone 7 with IOS 10.2. 
>> 
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Re: iMessages

[Donna]

Thanks Joseph & Sieghard!

Geez, I would have never found it. Would make more sense if one was able to see 
the text tone being used, like the ringtone that is displayed without having to 
first tap the Edit button. 

Donna
> 
> Hi Donna,
>  
> Joseph basically gave you the correct information, just to add a bit to it 
> the exact label you are looking for when you are editing a contact is "Text 
> Tone" and it is one swipe to the right past "Ringtone". This is, however, not 
> at the bottom but sort of in the middle. If you swipe it's past the phone 
> numbers and before where you can enter a person's or company's URL/website.
> Initially it will say "Text tone, default", once you double tap on it you are 
> in the area where you can pick from any available text tones including any 
> custom tones you may have added.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iMessages
>  
> Hi Donna, yes you're clearly overlooking it. First of all, you have to find 
> the edit button within the context, then after finding the edit button you 
> need to find this place where it says text tone or ring tone. These can be 
> found at the very bottom of each contact. Didn't want to tap on that, you'll 
> be brought into your tones. Then she was the one that you want and then 
> simply hit the done button. I hope this helps.
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> On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Donna <merma...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>  
> Hi All
> 
> Is there a way to set different text tones for contacts? A friend said that 
> she has a 2 different tones, 1 ringtone & the other a text tone, set for her 
> husband & other contacts. I have looked in the phone app, the contacts app & 
> settings. Am I overlooking the setting to do this? Or was this only possible 
> in past versions of IOS? I have an iPhone 7 with IOS 10.2. 
> 
> Donna
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RE: iMessages

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Donna,

Joseph basically gave you the correct information, just to add a bit to it the 
exact label you are looking for when you are editing a contact is "Text Tone" 
and it is one swipe to the right past "Ringtone". This is, however, not at the 
bottom but sort of in the middle. If you swipe it's past the phone numbers and 
before where you can enter a person's or company's URL/website.
Initially it will say "Text tone, default", once you double tap on it you are 
in the area where you can pick from any available text tones including any 
custom tones you may have added.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Hudson
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

Hi Donna, yes you're clearly overlooking it. First of all, you have to find the 
edit button within the context, then after finding the edit button you need to 
find this place where it says text tone or ring tone. These can be found at the 
very bottom of each contact. Didn't want to tap on that, you'll be brought into 
your tones. Then she was the one that you want and then simply hit the done 
button. I hope this helps.
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On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Donna 
<merma...@bellsouth.net<mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:

Hi All

Is there a way to set different text tones for contacts? A friend said that she 
has a 2 different tones, 1 ringtone & the other a text tone, set for her 
husband & other contacts. I have looked in the phone app, the contacts app & 
settings. Am I overlooking the setting to do this? Or was this only possible in 
past versions of IOS? I have an iPhone 7 with IOS 10.2.

Donna

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Re: iMessages

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Hi Donna, yes you're clearly overlooking it. First of all, you have to find the 
edit button within the context, then after finding the edit button you need to 
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> On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Donna  wrote:
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> Hi All
> 
> Is there a way to set different text tones for contacts? A friend said that 
> she has a 2 different tones, 1 ringtone & the other a text tone, set for her 
> husband & other contacts. I have looked in the phone app, the contacts app & 
> settings. Am I overlooking the setting to do this? Or was this only possible 
> in past versions of IOS? I have an iPhone 7 with IOS 10.2. 
> 
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RE: iMessages on iOS 10

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Gordan,

If a message is an iMessage the "Send" button was a "Record" button even in iOS 
9 and I think in iOS 8 as well, basically whenever Apple introduced the ability 
to send voice messages in iMessage it was like that.
As somebody else pointed out, as soon as you type the first character the 
button turns into "Send".
It was also pointed out that visually the send button is different now and it 
is smaller which I have noticed since it's a bit less easy to find when you try 
to find it by touch/moving your finger around.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordan Radic
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iMessages on iOS 10


Hi!

I'll start a new one on this topic because it is already spread in the several 
different threads and it is really hard to follow.

I've solved some of my own issues beeing able to access the effects menu by 
using 3D Touch on Send buton. According to Sieghard I should be able to access 
it with double tap and hold but somehow it is not working for me. I see screen 
is changing when I perform DTH but it is not the same as forcing the Send 
button.

The other thing bugging me is I don't see Send button if I don't enter some 
text in the field. There is only Record Audio button available right to the 
edit box and Send button appears only after I type or dictate some text. Is it 
the way it should be now or is it a bug?

I've listened to some podcasts about iMessages but I didn't get any smarter. 
Conclusion is, for now the new iMessages interface is working but it is still 
kinda hit and miss and Apple should give it some extra time to make it more 
usable and consistent for Voice Over users.

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Re: iMessages on iOS 10

[Rajmund]

Hi, that's not a bug. You might want to send an audio  message, but if you 
start typing,, it's obviously going to be a text. HTH.



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- Original Message -
From: Gordan_Radic4‡  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:13 pm
Subject: iMessages on iOS 10

>
>
> Hi!
> I'll start a new one on this topic because it is already spread in the 
> several different threads and it is really hard to follow.
> I've solved some of my own issues beeing able to access the effects menu by 
> using 3D Touch on Send buton. According to Sieghard I should be able to 
> access it with double tap and hold but somehow it is not working for me. I 
> see screen is changing when I perform DTH but it is not the same as forcing 
> the Send button.
> The other thing bugging me is I don't see Send button if I don't enter some 
> text in the field. There is only Record Audio button available right to the 
> edit box and Send button appears only after I type or dictate some text. Is 
> it the way it should be now or is it a bug?
> I've listened to some podcasts about iMessages but I didn't get any smarter. 
> Conclusion is, for now the new iMessages interface is working but it is still 
> kinda hit and miss and Apple should give it some extra time to make it more 
> usable and consistent for Voice Over users.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: IMessages and my number can't seem to activate

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Have you checked in your sms text messages for the configuration text holding 
the internet settings off your provider?

It might be an mms attachment, but you do have to run or activate it for it to 
setup, and subsequently work.
You quite often get two messages, one in plain text explaining the other.
- Original Message - 
From: "Gerardo Corripio" 
To: "viphone Email List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 6:28 PM
Subject: IMessages and my number can't seem to activate


  HI guys
I'm having I don't know if it's a problem, thus hope you guys could
maybe help me out: Since I put in my SimCard onto my 4S from my Motorola
Moto G 2nd Generation, a message pops up occasionally warning me that
the Messages required to activate Facetime and IMessage maybe have a
cost, for which I double-tap the OK button, thus Facetime and IMessage
is on both, my number and EMail as before. However again days later, the
same warning message pops up, and you have me again going to see if
IMessages and Facetime are active with my number, and the message of
awaiting activation is shown next to where it says IMessage active. When
I try and activate IMessage and Facetime by deactivating and
reactivating, a message pops up that an error occured when trying to
activate, thus there you have me leaving things alone, thus as long as
IMessage and Facetime is on with my EMail, I figure things work as they
should? Any ideas of to whose responsability is to activate Facetime and
IMessage, me or my carrier? because when I had my 3GS, I never
encountered this pop up! because if its my carrier, maybe I should give
them a call and tell them I changed from Android to IPhone, or what
would you guys suggest, or just leave things alone and continue using
Facetime and IMessage with my EMail and forget trying to get my number
activated for these services? I mentioned calling my carrier, but when I
renewed my plan in April, I asked if someday I changed to an IPhone if I
could have problems, and they said no, thus it's weird! Thanks for info.
Maybe I'm worrying of things I shouldn't but I guess it never hurts to
ask, if you guys have had annoyances like these?

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Re: IMessages and my number can't seem to activate

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Gerardo, to activate I message and face time so that it's associated with 
your phone number, your iPhone sends a text message to a number controlled by 
Apple. When Apple received the text message, it sends a reply text message. You 
don't actually see this message as a user, but the message contains an 
authentication token, which then causes I message and face time to work with 
your telephone number. Apple does it this way to be sure that you really do own 
the telephone number in question.

A couple of things could be happening. First, I would go into settings, phone, 
and ensure that your telephone number there is correct. Assuming that it is 
correct, I would contact your carrier and explain what's happening. Either the 
text message isn't being received by Apple, or Apple's reply to you isn't being 
received. Either way, your carrier may be able to help. Best of luck.
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> On 9/12/2015, at 7:28 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> HI guys
> I'm having I don't know if it's a problem, thus hope you guys could maybe 
> help me out: Since I put in my SimCard onto my 4S from my Motorola Moto G 2nd 
> Generation, a message pops up occasionally warning me that the Messages 
> required to activate Facetime and IMessage maybe have a cost, for which I 
> double-tap the OK button, thus Facetime and IMessage is on both, my number 
> and EMail as before. However again days later, the same warning message pops 
> up, and you have me again going to see if IMessages and Facetime are active 
> with my number, and the message of awaiting activation is shown next to where 
> it says IMessage active. When I try and activate IMessage and Facetime by 
> deactivating and reactivating, a message pops up that an error occured when 
> trying to activate, thus there you have me leaving things alone, thus as long 
> as IMessage and Facetime is on with my EMail, I figure things work as they 
> should? Any ideas of to whose responsability is to activate Facetime and 
> IMessage, me or my carrier? because when I had my 3GS, I never encountered 
> this pop up! because if its my carrier, maybe I should give them a call and 
> tell them I changed from Android to IPhone, or what would you guys suggest, 
> or just leave things alone and continue using Facetime and IMessage with my 
> EMail and forget trying to get my number activated for these services? I 
> mentioned calling my carrier, but when I renewed my plan in April, I asked if 
> someday I changed to an IPhone if I could have problems, and they said no, 
> thus it's weird! Thanks for info. Maybe I'm worrying of things I shouldn't 
> but I guess it never hurts to ask, if you guys have had annoyances like these?
> 
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Re: iMessages

[Tatiana Nisioti]

First and foremost, thank you all, guys, for taking time to respond; I 
really appreciate that.:)
Sieghard, once I read your response, I smiled, since this is actually what 
has kept me from taking it to a sotre: it wouldn't worth whatever charge to 
repair it --like you sagely pointed it, it is an old model.

I'll consider what you recommended about upgrading to IOS9.:)


-Original Message- 
From: Paul Richard McGann

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

sorry if I would get yo uptight, and since I had soime issues with older
phone 4s, and I had to make sacriface and got new iphoen 6 to settle down as
it is much cheaper. than spending on repairs.  it is your choice.


-Original Message- 
From: Brian Moore

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

it is a chip failure.  apple store can fix it but on an old phone like
that, not worth spending the money.
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On 11/12/2015 1:02 PM, Tatiana Nisioti wrote:


Exacctly(!!), that's the problem I've had since., well, it's been 
longer than a year now!!! Identically, neither WiFi or BlueTooth will 
ever again work! It sucks, actually, especially when travelling abroad, 
but, whenever, whereever and whomever I've asked..., couldn't give any 
solution Unless of course I take it to an Apple shop, which I've not 
decided doing yet, in hopes I buy a new one soon.:)


Kind regards, Sieghard, b.t.w., and thank you!
-Original Message- From: Brian Moore
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

HI.  perhaps she has the same issue as my 4s had.  both wifi and
bluetooth failed on the same day. can no longer turn either on but the
phone itself works.
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On 11/12/2015 10:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Tatiana,

Welcome, I think you are probably the only person from Greece on the 
list.
Yes, iMessages definitely will use cellular data if WiFi is not 
available.
If I may ask, why is WiFi disabled on your 4S? Is it not working any 
more?


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Tatiana Nisioti

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 6:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages


Thank you so much for clarifying, Sieghard! Are you 100% sure one can use 
also one's cellular data in order to send iMessages? Cause I thought what 
Marie has said to be the only way for exchanging such messages. If so, 
many thanks again! See, I can only use my c.d. for iMessages, since WiFi 
has been disabled on my "oldie" 4S(sigh).
By the way, I must take the opportunity to thank moderator(s) for 
creating this list, and for accepting my request to be a member.


Cheers,
Tatiana from Athens



-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMessages

Correct and to add to what Christopher said and to correct Marie, 
iMessages are sent via WiFi if you are connected to WiFi, but if you are 
not they use cellular data.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

I think of text messages as SMS text messages, so they would count 
against the text message limit of your cellular plan. I think of 
iMessages as instant messaging, so they are part of your data plan and 
not your text messaging plan. In that way, they are similar to email.


On 11/11/2015 08:57 PM, Marie wrote:

I Messages are text messages rather than email. And they are sent via
wyfy instead of using cell data and only between I devices.
Marie


-Original Message- From: Rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

Hello,
Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not
aa number, and I have not been charged.

- Original Message -
From: Joe  <jsoro...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:57 pm
Subject: iMessages



Hi, are iMessages considered paid text messages, or are they
considered data exchanges between iDevices? I hope that makes sense.
I'm just curious to know if iMessages would be billed by a carrier.

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Re: iMessages

[Paul Richard McGann]

tatina,

(head nodding solemnly and slowly)

yes, I know how you feel. it is kind of frustration like I did have last 
year and it got worse and the situation I had no  choice, and I made 
sacriface and went ahead to purchase new one. that is the best thing to keep 
gong on.



oh yes, ios could be pain in neck 9rear) sigh1 and that is the best thing to 
upgrade ios and proceed. I used to  like old one as I felt cool, but oh 
well1  that is how business is all about. wink1



-Original Message- 
From: Tatiana Nisioti

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

First and foremost, thank you all, guys, for taking time to respond; I
really appreciate that.:)
Sieghard, once I read your response, I smiled, since this is actually what
has kept me from taking it to a sotre: it wouldn't worth whatever charge to
repair it --like you sagely pointed it, it is an old model.
I'll consider what you recommended about upgrading to IOS9.:)


-Original Message- 
From: Paul Richard McGann

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

sorry if I would get yo uptight, and since I had soime issues with older
phone 4s, and I had to make sacriface and got new iphoen 6 to settle down as
it is much cheaper. than spending on repairs.  it is your choice.


-Original Message- 
From: Brian Moore

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

it is a chip failure.  apple store can fix it but on an old phone like
that, not worth spending the money.
Brian.

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On 11/12/2015 1:02 PM, Tatiana Nisioti wrote:


Exacctly(!!), that's the problem I've had since., well, it's been 
longer than a year now!!! Identically, neither WiFi or BlueTooth will 
ever again work! It sucks, actually, especially when travelling abroad, 
but, whenever, whereever and whomever I've asked..., couldn't give any 
solution Unless of course I take it to an Apple shop, which I've not 
decided doing yet, in hopes I buy a new one soon.:)


Kind regards, Sieghard, b.t.w., and thank you!
-Original Message- From: Brian Moore
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

HI.  perhaps she has the same issue as my 4s had.  both wifi and
bluetooth failed on the same day. can no longer turn either on but the
phone itself works.
Brian.

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On 11/12/2015 10:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Tatiana,

Welcome, I think you are probably the only person from Greece on the 
list.
Yes, iMessages definitely will use cellular data if WiFi is not 
available.
If I may ask, why is WiFi disabled on your 4S? Is it not working any 
more?


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Tatiana Nisioti

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 6:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages


Thank you so much for clarifying, Sieghard! Are you 100% sure one can use 
also one's cellular data in order to send iMessages? Cause I thought what 
Marie has said to be the only way for exchanging such messages. If so, 
many thanks again! See, I can only use my c.d. for iMessages, since WiFi 
has been disabled on my "oldie" 4S(sigh).
By the way, I must take the opportunity to thank moderator(s) for 
creating this list, and for accepting my request to be a member.


Cheers,
Tatiana from Athens



-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMessages

Correct and to add to what Christopher said and to correct Marie, 
iMessages are sent via WiFi if you are connected to WiFi, but if you are 
not they use cellular data.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

I think of text messages as SMS text messages, so they would count 
against the text message limit of your cellular plan. I think of 
iMessages as instant messaging, so they are part of your data plan and 
not your text messaging plan. In that way, they are similar to email.


On 11/11/2015 08:57 PM, Marie wrote:

I Messages are text messages rather than email. And they are sent via
wyfy instead of using cell data and only between I devices.
Marie


-Original Message- From: Rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

Hello,
Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not
aa number, and I have not been charged.

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From: Joe  <jsoro...@gmail.com

Re: iMessages

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Yes, but I have an email address, as my IMessage ID

- Original Message -
From: Marie  <scribbl...@comcast.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:05 am
Subject: Re: iMessages

>
>
> I Messages are text messages rather than email. And they are sent via wyfy 
> instead of using cell data and only between I devices.
> Marie
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> -Original Message- 
> From: Rajmund
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iMessages
> 
> Hello,
> Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not aa 
> number, and I have not been charged.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Joe  <jsoro...@gmail.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:57 pm
> Subject: iMessages
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi, are iMessages considered paid text messages, or are they considered 
> > data
> > exchanges between iDevices? I hope that makes sense. I'm just curious to
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Re: iMessages

[Paul Richard McGann]

when it is wifi connection, we can see word imessage, but if we are out of 
wifi reach, we can see text. after you send text messges out, you would 
notice your history as yo go back and find "send as text" as you know that 
someone is out of wifi onnection.


some ask if imessge is free, I would say yes, as if it is based on how your 
provideris as for att, verizon, and others. his means having all kinds of 
levels of payments.


sincerely,
rich

-Original Message- 
From: Tatiana Nisioti

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages


Thank you so much for clarifying, Sieghard! Are you 100% sure one can use
also one's cellular data in order to send iMessages? Cause I thought what
Marie has said to be the only way for exchanging such messages. If so, many
thanks again! See, I can only use my c.d. for iMessages, since WiFi has been
disabled on my "oldie" 4S(sigh).
By the way, I must take the opportunity to thank moderator(s) for creating
this list, and for accepting my request to be a member.

Cheers,
Tatiana from Athens



-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMessages

Correct and to add to what Christopher said and to correct Marie, iMessages
are sent via WiFi if you are connected to WiFi, but if you are not they use
cellular data.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

I think of text messages as SMS text messages, so they would count against
the text message limit of your cellular plan. I think of iMessages as
instant messaging, so they are part of your data plan and not your text
messaging plan. In that way, they are similar to email.

On 11/11/2015 08:57 PM, Marie wrote:

I Messages are text messages rather than email. And they are sent via
wyfy instead of using cell data and only between I devices.
Marie


-Original Message- From: Rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

Hello,
Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not
aa number, and I have not been charged.

- Original Message -
From: Joe  <jsoro...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:57 pm
Subject: iMessages




Hi, are iMessages considered paid text messages, or are they
considered data exchanges between iDevices? I hope that makes sense.
I'm just curious to know if iMessages would be billed by a carrier.

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Re: iMessages

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Tatiana and listers
Yes I can confirm they're sent using cel data; on my 3GS I used to send 
IMessages with either WiFi or Cell data. Good luck! and yes definitely a 
great list!


El 12/11/2015 08:02 a.m., Tatiana Nisioti escribió:


Thank you so much for clarifying, Sieghard! Are you 100% sure one can 
use also one's cellular data in order to send iMessages? Cause I 
thought what Marie has said to be the only way for exchanging such 
messages. If so, many thanks again! See, I can only use my c.d. for 
iMessages, since WiFi has been disabled on my "oldie" 4S(sigh).
By the way, I must take the opportunity to thank moderator(s) for 
creating this list, and for accepting my request to be a member.


Cheers,
Tatiana from Athens



-Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMessages

Correct and to add to what Christopher said and to correct Marie, 
iMessages are sent via WiFi if you are connected to WiFi, but if you 
are not they use cellular data.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

I think of text messages as SMS text messages, so they would count 
against the text message limit of your cellular plan. I think of 
iMessages as instant messaging, so they are part of your data plan and 
not your text messaging plan. In that way, they are similar to email.


On 11/11/2015 08:57 PM, Marie wrote:

I Messages are text messages rather than email. And they are sent via
wyfy instead of using cell data and only between I devices.
Marie


-Original Message- From: Rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

Hello,
Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not
aa number, and I have not been charged.

- Original Message -
From: Joe <jsoro...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:57 pm
Subject: iMessages




Hi, are iMessages considered paid text messages, or are they
considered data exchanges between iDevices? I hope that makes sense.
I'm just curious to know if iMessages would be billed by a carrier.

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Re: iMessages

[Brian Moore]

Hi.  Imessages will use data by default.  there is a setting to allow 
them to revert to being sent as text and I can't remember if that is on 
by default. I have mine turned off as I have been caught a few times 
where it failed for some reason and I got charged stupid rates for 
sending messages to countries other than Canada where I have unlimited 
texting.

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
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On 11/12/2015 9:02 AM, Tatiana Nisioti wrote:


Thank you so much for clarifying, Sieghard! Are you 100% sure one can 
use also one's cellular data in order to send iMessages? Cause I 
thought what Marie has said to be the only way for exchanging such 
messages. If so, many thanks again! See, I can only use my c.d. for 
iMessages, since WiFi has been disabled on my "oldie" 4S(sigh).
By the way, I must take the opportunity to thank moderator(s) for 
creating this list, and for accepting my request to be a member.


Cheers,
Tatiana from Athens



-Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMessages

Correct and to add to what Christopher said and to correct Marie, 
iMessages are sent via WiFi if you are connected to WiFi, but if you 
are not they use cellular data.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

I think of text messages as SMS text messages, so they would count 
against the text message limit of your cellular plan. I think of 
iMessages as instant messaging, so they are part of your data plan and 
not your text messaging plan. In that way, they are similar to email.


On 11/11/2015 08:57 PM, Marie wrote:

I Messages are text messages rather than email. And they are sent via
wyfy instead of using cell data and only between I devices.
Marie


-Original Message- From: Rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

Hello,
Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not
aa number, and I have not been charged.

- Original Message -
From: Joe  <jsoro...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:57 pm
Subject: iMessages




Hi, are iMessages considered paid text messages, or are they
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I'm just curious to know if iMessages would be billed by a carrier.

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Re: iMessages

[Tatiana Nisioti]

Thank you so much for clarifying, Sieghard! Are you 100% sure one can use 
also one's cellular data in order to send iMessages? Cause I thought what 
Marie has said to be the only way for exchanging such messages. If so, many 
thanks again! See, I can only use my c.d. for iMessages, since WiFi has been 
disabled on my "oldie" 4S(sigh).
By the way, I must take the opportunity to thank moderator(s) for creating 
this list, and for accepting my request to be a member.


Cheers,
Tatiana from Athens



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Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMessages

Correct and to add to what Christopher said and to correct Marie, iMessages 
are sent via WiFi if you are connected to WiFi, but if you are not they use 
cellular data.



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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

I think of text messages as SMS text messages, so they would count against 
the text message limit of your cellular plan. I think of iMessages as 
instant messaging, so they are part of your data plan and not your text 
messaging plan. In that way, they are similar to email.


On 11/11/2015 08:57 PM, Marie wrote:

I Messages are text messages rather than email. And they are sent via
wyfy instead of using cell data and only between I devices.
Marie


-Original Message- From: Rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

Hello,
Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not
aa number, and I have not been charged.

- Original Message -
From: Joe  <jsoro...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:57 pm
Subject: iMessages




Hi, are iMessages considered paid text messages, or are they
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RE: iMessages

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Tatiana,

Welcome, I think you are probably the only person from Greece on the list.
Yes, iMessages definitely will use cellular data if WiFi is not available.
If I may ask, why is WiFi disabled on your 4S? Is it not working any more?

Regards,
Sieghard

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Tatiana Nisioti
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 6:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages


Thank you so much for clarifying, Sieghard! Are you 100% sure one can use also 
one's cellular data in order to send iMessages? Cause I thought what Marie has 
said to be the only way for exchanging such messages. If so, many thanks again! 
See, I can only use my c.d. for iMessages, since WiFi has been disabled on my 
"oldie" 4S(sigh).
By the way, I must take the opportunity to thank moderator(s) for creating this 
list, and for accepting my request to be a member.

Cheers,
Tatiana from Athens



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From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMessages

Correct and to add to what Christopher said and to correct Marie, iMessages are 
sent via WiFi if you are connected to WiFi, but if you are not they use 
cellular data.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

I think of text messages as SMS text messages, so they would count against the 
text message limit of your cellular plan. I think of iMessages as instant 
messaging, so they are part of your data plan and not your text messaging plan. 
In that way, they are similar to email.

On 11/11/2015 08:57 PM, Marie wrote:
> I Messages are text messages rather than email. And they are sent via 
> wyfy instead of using cell data and only between I devices.
> Marie
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Rajmund
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iMessages
>
> Hello,
> Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not 
> aa number, and I have not been charged.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Joe  <jsoro...@gmail.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:57 pm
> Subject: iMessages
>
>>
>>
>> Hi, are iMessages considered paid text messages, or are they 
>> considered data exchanges between iDevices? I hope that makes sense.
>> I'm just curious to know if iMessages would be billed by a carrier.
>>
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Re: iMessages

[Brian Moore]

HI.  perhaps she has the same issue as my 4s had.  both wifi and 
bluetooth failed on the same day. can no longer turn either on but the 
phone itself works.

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On 11/12/2015 10:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Tatiana,

Welcome, I think you are probably the only person from Greece on the list.
Yes, iMessages definitely will use cellular data if WiFi is not available.
If I may ask, why is WiFi disabled on your 4S? Is it not working any more?

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tatiana Nisioti
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 6:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages


Thank you so much for clarifying, Sieghard! Are you 100% sure one can use also one's 
cellular data in order to send iMessages? Cause I thought what Marie has said to be the 
only way for exchanging such messages. If so, many thanks again! See, I can only use my 
c.d. for iMessages, since WiFi has been disabled on my "oldie" 4S(sigh).
By the way, I must take the opportunity to thank moderator(s) for creating this 
list, and for accepting my request to be a member.

Cheers,
Tatiana from Athens



-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMessages

Correct and to add to what Christopher said and to correct Marie, iMessages are 
sent via WiFi if you are connected to WiFi, but if you are not they use 
cellular data.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

I think of text messages as SMS text messages, so they would count against the 
text message limit of your cellular plan. I think of iMessages as instant 
messaging, so they are part of your data plan and not your text messaging plan. 
In that way, they are similar to email.

On 11/11/2015 08:57 PM, Marie wrote:

I Messages are text messages rather than email. And they are sent via
wyfy instead of using cell data and only between I devices.
Marie


-Original Message- From: Rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

Hello,
Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not
aa number, and I have not been charged.

- Original Message -
From: Joe  <jsoro...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:57 pm
Subject: iMessages



Hi, are iMessages considered paid text messages, or are they
considered data exchanges between iDevices? I hope that makes sense.
I'm just curious to know if iMessages would be billed by a carrier.

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Re: iMessages

[Tatiana Nisioti]

Exacctly(!!), that's the problem I've had since., well, it's been longer 
than a year now!!! Identically, neither WiFi or BlueTooth will ever 
again work! It sucks, actually, especially when travelling abroad, but, 
whenever, whereever and whomever I've asked..., couldn't give any 
solution Unless of course I take it to an Apple shop, which I've not 
decided doing yet, in hopes I buy a new one soon.:)


Kind regards, Sieghard, b.t.w., and thank you!
-Original Message- 
From: Brian Moore

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

HI.  perhaps she has the same issue as my 4s had.  both wifi and
bluetooth failed on the same day. can no longer turn either on but the
phone itself works.
Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
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On 11/12/2015 10:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Tatiana,

Welcome, I think you are probably the only person from Greece on the list.
Yes, iMessages definitely will use cellular data if WiFi is not available.
If I may ask, why is WiFi disabled on your 4S? Is it not working any more?

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Tatiana Nisioti

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 6:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages


Thank you so much for clarifying, Sieghard! Are you 100% sure one can use 
also one's cellular data in order to send iMessages? Cause I thought what 
Marie has said to be the only way for exchanging such messages. If so, 
many thanks again! See, I can only use my c.d. for iMessages, since WiFi 
has been disabled on my "oldie" 4S(sigh).
By the way, I must take the opportunity to thank moderator(s) for creating 
this list, and for accepting my request to be a member.


Cheers,
Tatiana from Athens



-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMessages

Correct and to add to what Christopher said and to correct Marie, 
iMessages are sent via WiFi if you are connected to WiFi, but if you are 
not they use cellular data.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

I think of text messages as SMS text messages, so they would count against 
the text message limit of your cellular plan. I think of iMessages as 
instant messaging, so they are part of your data plan and not your text 
messaging plan. In that way, they are similar to email.


On 11/11/2015 08:57 PM, Marie wrote:

I Messages are text messages rather than email. And they are sent via
wyfy instead of using cell data and only between I devices.
Marie


-Original Message- From: Rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

Hello,
Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not
aa number, and I have not been charged.

- Original Message -
From: Joe  <jsoro...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:57 pm
Subject: iMessages



Hi, are iMessages considered paid text messages, or are they
considered data exchanges between iDevices? I hope that makes sense.
I'm just curious to know if iMessages would be billed by a carrier.

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Re: iMessages

[Paul Richard McGann]

then go to apple store, or place where yo upurchased and let the technician 
solving the problem. why wasting time not trying and you might not have no 
clues, then brain needs  to stop and get out of house and go over apple 
store and ask technician to see the problem and they can fix the problems.



-Original Message- 
From: Tatiana Nisioti

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages


Exacctly(!!), that's the problem I've had since., well, it's been longer
than a year now!!! Identically, neither WiFi or BlueTooth will ever
again work! It sucks, actually, especially when travelling abroad, but,
whenever, whereever and whomever I've asked..., couldn't give any
solution Unless of course I take it to an Apple shop, which I've not
decided doing yet, in hopes I buy a new one soon.:)

Kind regards, Sieghard, b.t.w., and thank you!
-Original Message- 
From: Brian Moore

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

HI.  perhaps she has the same issue as my 4s had.  both wifi and
bluetooth failed on the same day. can no longer turn either on but the
phone itself works.
Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
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On 11/12/2015 10:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Tatiana,

Welcome, I think you are probably the only person from Greece on the list.
Yes, iMessages definitely will use cellular data if WiFi is not available.
If I may ask, why is WiFi disabled on your 4S? Is it not working any more?

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Tatiana Nisioti

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 6:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages


Thank you so much for clarifying, Sieghard! Are you 100% sure one can use 
also one's cellular data in order to send iMessages? Cause I thought what 
Marie has said to be the only way for exchanging such messages. If so, 
many thanks again! See, I can only use my c.d. for iMessages, since WiFi 
has been disabled on my "oldie" 4S(sigh).
By the way, I must take the opportunity to thank moderator(s) for creating 
this list, and for accepting my request to be a member.


Cheers,
Tatiana from Athens



-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMessages

Correct and to add to what Christopher said and to correct Marie, 
iMessages are sent via WiFi if you are connected to WiFi, but if you are 
not they use cellular data.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

I think of text messages as SMS text messages, so they would count against 
the text message limit of your cellular plan. I think of iMessages as 
instant messaging, so they are part of your data plan and not your text 
messaging plan. In that way, they are similar to email.


On 11/11/2015 08:57 PM, Marie wrote:

I Messages are text messages rather than email. And they are sent via
wyfy instead of using cell data and only between I devices.
Marie


-Original Message- From: Rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

Hello,
Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not
aa number, and I have not been charged.

- Original Message -
From: Joe  <jsoro...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:57 pm
Subject: iMessages



Hi, are iMessages considered paid text messages, or are they
considered data exchanges between iDevices? I hope that makes sense.
I'm just curious to know if iMessages would be billed by a carrier.

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RE: iMessages

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If it is truely a hardware failure as in the WiFi modem in the phone has 
failed, going to an Apple Store won't really help since all they would do is 
offer a replacement at whatever cost they charge in Greece. The 4S came out in 
2011 so if it was then it would be not covered under warranty even if Apple 
Care was purchased as of 2 years ago.
Tatiana, have you tried to completely reinstall iOS and to set up as a new 
phone? If you haven't and if you have a way to use a computer with iTunes I 
wold suggest you upgrade to iOS 9.1 if you haven't done so yet or restore the 
phone back to iOS 9.1 and factory defaults. I have heard of other 4S users 
whose WiFi/Bluetooth has failed, but if you haven't done so yet it is one thing 
you could try.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Richard McGann
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

then go to apple store, or place where yo upurchased and let the technician 
solving the problem. why wasting time not trying and you might not have no 
clues, then brain needs  to stop and get out of house and go over apple store 
and ask technician to see the problem and they can fix the problems.


-Original Message-
From: Tatiana Nisioti
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages


Exacctly(!!), that's the problem I've had since., well, it's been longer
than a year now!!! Identically, neither WiFi or BlueTooth will ever
again work! It sucks, actually, especially when travelling abroad, but,
whenever, whereever and whomever I've asked..., couldn't give any
solution Unless of course I take it to an Apple shop, which I've not
decided doing yet, in hopes I buy a new one soon.:)

Kind regards, Sieghard, b.t.w., and thank you!
-Original Message- 
From: Brian Moore
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

HI.  perhaps she has the same issue as my 4s had.  both wifi and
bluetooth failed on the same day. can no longer turn either on but the
phone itself works.
Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 11/12/2015 10:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hello Tatiana,
>
> Welcome, I think you are probably the only person from Greece on the list.
> Yes, iMessages definitely will use cellular data if WiFi is not available.
> If I may ask, why is WiFi disabled on your 4S? Is it not working any more?
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Tatiana Nisioti
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 6:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iMessages
>
>
> Thank you so much for clarifying, Sieghard! Are you 100% sure one can use 
> also one's cellular data in order to send iMessages? Cause I thought what 
> Marie has said to be the only way for exchanging such messages. If so, 
> many thanks again! See, I can only use my c.d. for iMessages, since WiFi 
> has been disabled on my "oldie" 4S(sigh).
> By the way, I must take the opportunity to thank moderator(s) for creating 
> this list, and for accepting my request to be a member.
>
> Cheers,
> Tatiana from Athens
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iMessages
>
> Correct and to add to what Christopher said and to correct Marie, 
> iMessages are sent via WiFi if you are connected to WiFi, but if you are 
> not they use cellular data.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iMessages
>
> I think of text messages as SMS text messages, so they would count against 
> the text message limit of your cellular plan. I think of iMessages as 
> instant messaging, so they are part of your data plan and not your text 
> messaging plan. In that way, they are similar to email.
>
> On 11/11/2015 08:57 PM, Marie wrote:
>> I Messages are text messages rather than email. And they are sent via
>> wyfy instead of using cell data and only between I devices.
>> Marie
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Rajmund
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iMessages
>>
>> Hello,
>> Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not
>> aa number, and I have not been charged.
>>
>> - Original Messag

Re: iMessages

[Brian Moore]

it is a chip failure.  apple store can fix it but on an old phone like 
that, not worth spending the money.

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
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On 11/12/2015 1:02 PM, Tatiana Nisioti wrote:


Exacctly(!!), that's the problem I've had since., well, it's been 
longer than a year now!!! Identically, neither WiFi or BlueTooth 
will ever again work! It sucks, actually, especially when travelling 
abroad, but, whenever, whereever and whomever I've asked..., couldn't 
give any solution Unless of course I take it to an Apple shop, 
which I've not decided doing yet, in hopes I buy a new one soon.:)


Kind regards, Sieghard, b.t.w., and thank you!
-Original Message- From: Brian Moore
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

HI.  perhaps she has the same issue as my 4s had.  both wifi and
bluetooth failed on the same day. can no longer turn either on but the
phone itself works.
Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 11/12/2015 10:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Tatiana,

Welcome, I think you are probably the only person from Greece on the 
list.
Yes, iMessages definitely will use cellular data if WiFi is not 
available.
If I may ask, why is WiFi disabled on your 4S? Is it not working any 
more?


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Tatiana Nisioti

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 6:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages


Thank you so much for clarifying, Sieghard! Are you 100% sure one can 
use also one's cellular data in order to send iMessages? Cause I 
thought what Marie has said to be the only way for exchanging such 
messages. If so, many thanks again! See, I can only use my c.d. for 
iMessages, since WiFi has been disabled on my "oldie" 4S(sigh).
By the way, I must take the opportunity to thank moderator(s) for 
creating this list, and for accepting my request to be a member.


Cheers,
Tatiana from Athens



-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMessages

Correct and to add to what Christopher said and to correct Marie, 
iMessages are sent via WiFi if you are connected to WiFi, but if you 
are not they use cellular data.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

I think of text messages as SMS text messages, so they would count 
against the text message limit of your cellular plan. I think of 
iMessages as instant messaging, so they are part of your data plan 
and not your text messaging plan. In that way, they are similar to 
email.


On 11/11/2015 08:57 PM, Marie wrote:

I Messages are text messages rather than email. And they are sent via
wyfy instead of using cell data and only between I devices.
Marie


-Original Message- From: Rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

Hello,
Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not
aa number, and I have not been charged.

- Original Message -
From: Joe  <jsoro...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:57 pm
Subject: iMessages



Hi, are iMessages considered paid text messages, or are they
considered data exchanges between iDevices? I hope that makes sense.
I'm just curious to know if iMessages would be billed by a carrier.

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Re: iMessages

[Paul Richard McGann]

sorry if I would get yo uptight, and since I had soime issues with older 
phone 4s, and I had to make sacriface and got new iphoen 6 to settle down as 
it is much cheaper. than spending on repairs.  it is your choice.



-Original Message- 
From: Brian Moore

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

it is a chip failure.  apple store can fix it but on an old phone like
that, not worth spending the money.
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On 11/12/2015 1:02 PM, Tatiana Nisioti wrote:


Exacctly(!!), that's the problem I've had since., well, it's been 
longer than a year now!!! Identically, neither WiFi or BlueTooth will 
ever again work! It sucks, actually, especially when travelling abroad, 
but, whenever, whereever and whomever I've asked..., couldn't give any 
solution Unless of course I take it to an Apple shop, which I've not 
decided doing yet, in hopes I buy a new one soon.:)


Kind regards, Sieghard, b.t.w., and thank you!
-Original Message- From: Brian Moore
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

HI.  perhaps she has the same issue as my 4s had.  both wifi and
bluetooth failed on the same day. can no longer turn either on but the
phone itself works.
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On 11/12/2015 10:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Tatiana,

Welcome, I think you are probably the only person from Greece on the 
list.
Yes, iMessages definitely will use cellular data if WiFi is not 
available.
If I may ask, why is WiFi disabled on your 4S? Is it not working any 
more?


Regards,
Sieghard

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Behalf Of Tatiana Nisioti

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 6:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages


Thank you so much for clarifying, Sieghard! Are you 100% sure one can use 
also one's cellular data in order to send iMessages? Cause I thought what 
Marie has said to be the only way for exchanging such messages. If so, 
many thanks again! See, I can only use my c.d. for iMessages, since WiFi 
has been disabled on my "oldie" 4S(sigh).
By the way, I must take the opportunity to thank moderator(s) for 
creating this list, and for accepting my request to be a member.


Cheers,
Tatiana from Athens



-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMessages

Correct and to add to what Christopher said and to correct Marie, 
iMessages are sent via WiFi if you are connected to WiFi, but if you are 
not they use cellular data.



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Subject: Re: iMessages

I think of text messages as SMS text messages, so they would count 
against the text message limit of your cellular plan. I think of 
iMessages as instant messaging, so they are part of your data plan and 
not your text messaging plan. In that way, they are similar to email.


On 11/11/2015 08:57 PM, Marie wrote:

I Messages are text messages rather than email. And they are sent via
wyfy instead of using cell data and only between I devices.
Marie


-Original Message- From: Rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

Hello,
Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not
aa number, and I have not been charged.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:57 pm
Subject: iMessages



Hi, are iMessages considered paid text messages, or are they
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Re: IMessages and their associations?

[Kelly Pierce]

to use iMessage and Facetime, the end user must agree to associate a
piece of identifiable information, such as an e-mail address or a
phone number,  to Apple.  Is your father able to send iMessages to
others?  While he may tell you one thing, he may not wish to
relinquish his privacy rights. I am surprised as to how many iPhone
owners have not enabled Facetime or iMessage.

Kelly



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> Hello Gera,
> A friend did a group iMessage. Ce was using number from an iPhone, I was
> using an iPad with email, the third person used email with most likely a
> phone, and it worked. So that isn't your issue. I would try to go into
> settings, messages, and get rid of the number. Only leave your email in
> there as the iMessage contact, in other words.
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> - Original Message -
> From: Gerardo Corripio  
> To: viphone Email List
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:21 pm
> Subject: IMessages and their associations?
>
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>>
>>   HI guys
>> Well finally I'm back! now with all the energy and predisposition to
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>> last! using it on Wifi for now while I get someone to take me to the
>> carrier to put in the Sim Card (though I have a feeling it already came
>> with one since while setting it up yesterday, it gave me the option of
>> using IMessage and Facetime with a Spain phone number, and it didn't ask
>> me for a SimCard during the entire Setup process so who knows); anyway
>> I'm using the phone via Wifi and have it restored to how I left my 3GS
>> on April 7, but have a problem when sending my Dad an IMessage it marks
>> the Unable to send error! Might it be because his IMessages are
>> associated with his phone number, while I associated mine with my EMail
>> address? When I put in my number, then will the IMessages funcion as
>> they should? because I tested the IMessage with a friend and it was sent
>> and received OK! Thanks for info.
>>
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Re: IMessages and their associations?

[Rajmund]

Hello Gera,
A friend did a group iMessage. Ce was using number from an iPhone, I was using 
an iPad with email, the third person used email with most likely a phone, and 
it worked. So that isn't your issue. I would try to go into settings, messages, 
and get rid of the number. Only leave your email in there as the iMessage 
contact, in other words.

- Original Message -
From: Gerardo Corripio  
To: viphone Email List
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:21 pm
Subject: IMessages and their associations?

>
>
>   HI guys
> Well finally I'm back! now with all the energy and predisposition to 
> learn all I can from the list! I got my 4S 16GB IOs7.1.1 yesterday at 
> last! using it on Wifi for now while I get someone to take me to the 
> carrier to put in the Sim Card (though I have a feeling it already came 
> with one since while setting it up yesterday, it gave me the option of 
> using IMessage and Facetime with a Spain phone number, and it didn't ask 
> me for a SimCard during the entire Setup process so who knows); anyway 
> I'm using the phone via Wifi and have it restored to how I left my 3GS 
> on April 7, but have a problem when sending my Dad an IMessage it marks 
> the Unable to send error! Might it be because his IMessages are 
> associated with his phone number, while I associated mine with my EMail 
> address? When I put in my number, then will the IMessages funcion as 
> they should? because I tested the IMessage with a friend and it was sent 
> and received OK! Thanks for info.
> 
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> Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki
> Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
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Re: iMessages

[Marie]

I Messages are text messages rather than email. And they are sent via wyfy 
instead of using cell data and only between I devices.

Marie


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

Hello,
Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not aa 
number, and I have not been charged.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:57 pm
Subject: iMessages




Hi, are iMessages considered paid text messages, or are they considered 
data

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RE: iMessages

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Correct and to add to what Christopher said and to correct Marie, iMessages are 
sent via WiFi if you are connected to WiFi, but if you are not they use 
cellular data.


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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

I think of text messages as SMS text messages, so they would count against the 
text message limit of your cellular plan. I think of iMessages as instant 
messaging, so they are part of your data plan and not your text messaging plan. 
In that way, they are similar to email.

On 11/11/2015 08:57 PM, Marie wrote:
> I Messages are text messages rather than email. And they are sent via 
> wyfy instead of using cell data and only between I devices.
> Marie
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Rajmund
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iMessages
>
> Hello,
> Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not 
> aa number, and I have not been charged.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Joe  <jsoro...@gmail.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:57 pm
> Subject: iMessages
>
>>
>>
>> Hi, are iMessages considered paid text messages, or are they 
>> considered data exchanges between iDevices? I hope that makes sense. 
>> I'm just curious to know if iMessages would be billed by a carrier.
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Re: iMessages

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I think of text messages as SMS text messages, so they would count 
against the text message limit of your cellular plan. I think of 
iMessages as instant messaging, so they are part of your data plan and 
not your text messaging plan. In that way, they are similar to email.


On 11/11/2015 08:57 PM, Marie wrote:

I Messages are text messages rather than email. And they are sent via
wyfy instead of using cell data and only between I devices.
Marie


-Original Message- From: Rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages

Hello,
Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not
aa number, and I have not been charged.

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From: Joe  <jsoro...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:57 pm
Subject: iMessages




Hi, are iMessages considered paid text messages, or are they
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Hello,
Messages between IDevices. Am using an iPad, with email, obviously not aa 
number, and I have not been charged. 

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Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:57 pm
Subject: iMessages

>
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> Hi, are iMessages considered paid text messages, or are they considered data
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RE: iMessages on an old iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Do you have data on your old phone or are you connected to WiFi? iMessages
require a data connection to work.

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Subject: iMessages on an old iPhone

Hey all,

I am starting to use my old iPhone 4s more and more as I now have a 5S. One
thing I would have thought is that you could still get your iMessages not
text messages on an old phone? I looked in settings under messages and all
is turned on. Any advice? Thanks, 

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Re: iMessages on an old iPhone

[Dave Mitchel]

is this the voice messages or any regular message? I use wifi due to such a 
limited data plan.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMessages on an old iPhone

Do you have data on your old phone or are you connected to WiFi? iMessages
require a data connection to work.

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Of Brian Fischler
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iMessages on an old iPhone

Hey all,

I am starting to use my old iPhone 4s more and more as I now have a 5S. One
thing I would have thought is that you could still get your iMessages not
text messages on an old phone? I looked in settings under messages and all
is turned on. Any advice? Thanks,

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Re: iMessages on an old iPhone

[Gmail]

Actually, the IMessage feature works over wifi. That's why people who have 
wifi-only iPads were excited about it came out.


Thanks,
Ari

 On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Dave Mitchel dbmitc...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 is this the voice messages or any regular message? I use wifi due to such a 
 limited data plan.
 
 -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:58 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: iMessages on an old iPhone
 
 Do you have data on your old phone or are you connected to WiFi? iMessages
 require a data connection to work.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brian Fischler
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 4:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: iMessages on an old iPhone
 
 Hey all,
 
 I am starting to use my old iPhone 4s more and more as I now have a 5S. One
 thing I would have thought is that you could still get your iMessages not
 text messages on an old phone? I looked in settings under messages and all
 is turned on. Any advice? Thanks,
 
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Re: iMessages on an old iPhone

[Brian Fischler]

Hey guys,

Thanks for the responses. I do not have data but am not talking about text 
messages talking about receiving iMessages from others on an iPhone as I 
thought I would still receive them on my old 4S when connected to wifi and I 
did check the settings to make sure my iCloud account is verified so not sure 
why I am not getting the iMessages on the old phone actually looked and have 
not received one message since I got my 5S and would like to as I am now using 
my 4S more and more. Any idea how to do this as they should be coming through. 
Thanks.
On Sep 18, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Gmail englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually, the IMessage feature works over wifi. That's why people who have 
 wifi-only iPads were excited about it came out.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Dave Mitchel dbmitc...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 is this the voice messages or any regular message? I use wifi due to such a 
 limited data plan.
 
 -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:58 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: iMessages on an old iPhone
 
 Do you have data on your old phone or are you connected to WiFi? iMessages
 require a data connection to work.
 
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 Of Brian Fischler
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 Subject: iMessages on an old iPhone
 
 Hey all,
 
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Re: IMessages not appearing on phone and mac

[Andrew Head]

I sorted the problem, called apple directly and it turns when I changed my 
icloud password, I thought all my info would automatically synchronize but this 
was not the case and I had to re add my email address. once done, all is well. 
:) 

On 12 Dec 2013, at 11:23 am, matthew dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmx.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I never was able to get messages to come over both my  iPhone 5s and my 27 
 inch iMac.  Not sure how to add my phone number to messages to see if that 
 would fix  it.
 
 
 Matthew
 
 
 On Dec 11, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I had to recently had to change my apple id password. since then, IMessages 
 aren’t syncing properly between my iphone and mac. sometimes, messages that 
 appear on my phone won’t appear on my mac and vise verser.
 All the settings seem to be the same but if anyone can help, greatly 
 appreciated. I wasn’t sure which list to send this to, either mac or iphone, 
 Andrew 
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Re: iMessages VS text messages again

[Christopher Chaltain]

Yes, that is my understanding. iMsg's require a data plan or wifi and
sms's just require a cell phone and are covered under a text messaging plan.

On 17/08/12 12:09, Vicky Collins wrote:
 First, grin, I now think I know why my brother wasn't getting my
 iMessages timely, but was receiving the text messages okay.  Apparently,
 although he doesn't know how it happened, he used more data than his
 purchased amount for the month.  So, ATT charged him another fifteen
 dollars for more.  Thus, not liking this at all, he went to the ATT
 store and had them help him turn off the data usage altogether. 
 Therefore, he couldn't get my iMessages until he got back home and was
 using his WiFi connection.
 
 Second, then, am I thinking correctly that iMessages need the internet,
 meaning either WiFi or a data plan?  While, on the  other hand, text
 messages are something completely separate, and do not require a data
 plan, but have their own separate plan or are charged by the message if
 no plan exists?
 

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RE: iMessages VS text messages again

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

So, are iMessages and text messages seen the same to the person
receiving the message? Do iMessages via a data plan get sent to a cell
phone?

Thanks. 

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Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages VS text messages again

Yes, that is my understanding. iMsg's require a data plan or wifi and
sms's just require a cell phone and are covered under a text messaging
plan.

On 17/08/12 12:09, Vicky Collins wrote:
 First, grin, I now think I know why my brother wasn't getting my
 iMessages timely, but was receiving the text messages okay.
Apparently,
 although he doesn't know how it happened, he used more data than his
 purchased amount for the month.  So, ATT charged him another fifteen
 dollars for more.  Thus, not liking this at all, he went to the ATT
 store and had them help him turn off the data usage altogether. 
 Therefore, he couldn't get my iMessages until he got back home and was
 using his WiFi connection.
 
 Second, then, am I thinking correctly that iMessages need the
internet,
 meaning either WiFi or a data plan?  While, on the  other hand, text
 messages are something completely separate, and do not require a data
 plan, but have their own separate plan or are charged by the message
if
 no plan exists?
 

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Re: iMessages VS text messages again

[Christopher Chaltain]

You use the same app on your iPhone to read and send both iMsg's and
text messages. They basically appear the same, but I think they are
labelled differently, so you know when you're reading a text message
versus an iMsg.

I think this is configurable, but when sending a message, the iPhone
will send an iMsg when it can, such as to another iPhone, and otherwise
it'll send a text message. So if you're sending a message to someone who
has a cell phone that is not an iPhone, you will be sending a text
message and that's what the person will receive.

On 17/08/12 12:31, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
 So, are iMessages and text messages seen the same to the person
 receiving the message? Do iMessages via a data plan get sent to a cell
 phone?
 
 Thanks. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:26 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iMessages VS text messages again
 
 Yes, that is my understanding. iMsg's require a data plan or wifi and
 sms's just require a cell phone and are covered under a text messaging
 plan.
 
 On 17/08/12 12:09, Vicky Collins wrote:
 First, grin, I now think I know why my brother wasn't getting my
 iMessages timely, but was receiving the text messages okay.
 Apparently,
 although he doesn't know how it happened, he used more data than his
 purchased amount for the month.  So, ATT charged him another fifteen
 dollars for more.  Thus, not liking this at all, he went to the ATT
 store and had them help him turn off the data usage altogether. 
 Therefore, he couldn't get my iMessages until he got back home and was
 using his WiFi connection.

 Second, then, am I thinking correctly that iMessages need the
 internet,
 meaning either WiFi or a data plan?  While, on the  other hand, text
 messages are something completely separate, and do not require a data
 plan, but have their own separate plan or are charged by the message
 if
 no plan exists?

 

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chaltain at Gmail


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Re: iMessages VS text messages again

[Dan]

Hello,
iMessages are sent over either your WI-FI or your cell carrier, they are 
between iOS devices and OS X Mountain Lion. They do not go through normal 
texting channels, only through your Apple account and that of other Apple 
account holders using iOS devices and Mountain Lion.


Dan Keys

On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 So, are iMessages and text messages seen the same to the person
 receiving the message? Do iMessages via a data plan get sent to a cell
 phone?
 
 Thanks. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:26 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iMessages VS text messages again
 
 Yes, that is my understanding. iMsg's require a data plan or wifi and
 sms's just require a cell phone and are covered under a text messaging
 plan.
 
 On 17/08/12 12:09, Vicky Collins wrote:
 First, grin, I now think I know why my brother wasn't getting my
 iMessages timely, but was receiving the text messages okay.
 Apparently,
 although he doesn't know how it happened, he used more data than his
 purchased amount for the month.  So, ATT charged him another fifteen
 dollars for more.  Thus, not liking this at all, he went to the ATT
 store and had them help him turn off the data usage altogether. 
 Therefore, he couldn't get my iMessages until he got back home and was
 using his WiFi connection.
 
 Second, then, am I thinking correctly that iMessages need the
 internet,
 meaning either WiFi or a data plan?  While, on the  other hand, text
 messages are something completely separate, and do not require a data
 plan, but have their own separate plan or are charged by the message
 if
 no plan exists?
 
 
 -- 
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 chaltain at Gmail
 
 
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Re: iMessages Deletion

[Chris (gmail)]

Well, I can't answer this one, but in any case, thanks for letting us 
know. You would think iMessage would use iCloud to transfer and manage 
messages across all Apple products, but this appears to not be the case. 
I have no proof myself since I only have an iPhone 4.


On 11/08/2012 11:21, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

Hi All,

Sent to both ViPhone and Macvissionaries list…

Using iMessages now on my iPad, iPhone and all three Mac's, hitting an issue 
though that is quickly going to drive me insane.

If I start an iMessage conversation on my iPhone, it beautifully appears on all 
my other machines and devices, lovely, well done Apple, this is great.

But, what is dam annoying is when I delete a thread it only is deleted from 
that device or machine, I manually, or so it seems, have to remove each 
conversation thread from each device and machine.

Surely Apple would have the brains to make this process work both ways, a 
message sent to an Apple ID appears on all platforms associated, yet, likewise, 
when removed / deleted would do the same.

This is quickly going to drive me mad, we got back from our vacation today, I 
had left my MacMini and iMac off during the away time, when I turned them both 
back on, and logged in, even though 90% of the content had already been replied 
to and deleted, several hundred iMessages proceeded to download to both.

very, very annoying.

any thoughts out there.

thanks.


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Re: iMessages VS text messages

[David Chittenden]

Text message is the fallback. IMessaging uses the Internet and requires a a 
good connection 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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On 11/08/2012, at 15:39, Vicky Collins v-coll...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Are text messages delivered more reliably than iMessages?  For, sometimes, 
 when I've sent an iMessage to my sister, she has told me she didn't get it 
 till a few hours later, although she normally gets them pretty quickly after 
 I have sent them.
 
 On the other hand, though, my brother tells me that he doesn't get the 
 iMessages I send around seven in the morning when he is away from home, until 
 he gets back home after five in the afternoon.  But, when I turned off the 
 iMessage feature and just sent him a text message today, he got it right 
 away, around the seven in the morning.  Oh, I can normally receive his 
 iMessages just after they are sent.
 
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