Re: [Vo]:BB motor - surprising experiments

2009-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 18, 2009, at 6:22 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: The effect works with magnetic bearings and not with non-magnetic bearings. That is sufficient to establish the effect is electromagnetic. Yes, for sure. Further, a back-emf is produced, which confirms it

Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite direction from event horizon

2009-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Jones Beene wrote: This is not exactly in the context of this thread, but I stumbled across a 25 year old paper by one of our favorite visionaries – Robert Forward (well named) and it could be updated, based on new research:

Re: [Vo]:Vehicle-to-grid (V2G) suppresses the need for EV recharging stations

2009-08-19 Thread Michel Jullian
Dear Grumpy, Battery technology should be irrelevant since the utility buy-back price covers not only the cost of the electricity but also the battery wear (if over time they eat away half of your meager 500 cycles, they will have paid you back half of your LA battery pack), plus a bonus. You

Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite direction from event horizon

2009-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 18, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Frank wrote: Horace, I agree and can’t believe they didn’t pursue it further. This demonstrates the problem with attempting to doing physics without any kind of quantitative concepts. If you limit yourself to non-quantitative concepts then you

Re: [Vo]:can...@fermiCern/QuantParticlesAsMereArtifacts

2009-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 18, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Harbach Jak wrote: Oh yes IT IS definitely ALL ABOUT THE MATH but although FIGURES DON'T TEND TO OBFUSCATE(on their own)// WELL MEANING OBFUSCATORS often KNOW WELL HOW TO JUGGLE THE FIGURES!~;-) But DOING IT is quite FUN and tends to keep the old

Re: [Vo]:Spoof of the Week ?

2009-08-19 Thread Mauro Lacy
Jones Beene wrote: “Onion” usually always attempts to be an eye-watering spoof … This one rises almost to the level of conspiracy theory, given recent threads on Vortex ;-) … and as we know, reality can be stranger than fiction. In several layered ways… not unlike an the

RE: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite direction from event horizon

2009-08-19 Thread Frank
Horace, I do realize that the force is inconsequential but please consider two things, first it results in equivalence which is a constant acceleration and just like an ion drive can eventually produce huge velocities, second the hydrogen's spatial motion relative to an observer

[Vo]:BB motor resistance measurements

2009-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
This is a quick check of BB motor resistance at 5 different rpms at low current using 4 runs. Fig. 1 is the circuit. (+)---P1---R1---P2---A---P3---Motor---P4---G R1 is 48.4 ohms. The current in the 4 runs was 0.19 A +- 0.01 A. The voltage drop from P1 to P4 is shown in all runs in CH2,

Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite direction from event horizon

2009-08-19 Thread Michel Jullian
Haven't had time to read all this interesting thread, just a couple things I noticed: Frank:  how can you keep talking about the Lorentz contraction if the Lorentz transform doesn't make sense to you? Stephen: your expression of the Lorentz transform misses the dot product and the (vertical) t x

[Vo]:ZPE Converter

2009-08-19 Thread Terry Blanton
This guy has a job for Horace: http://z-pec.yolasite.com/ Click on Why I Need You. Terry

RE: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite direction from event horizon

2009-08-19 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Michael, That was a very early thread and I do understand the basic premise of a 4D array, distance as an absolute on the time axis and how two spatially adjacent stationary objects can be accelerating away from each other temporally if an equivalence boundary is established -normally

RE: [Vo]:Spoof of the Week ?

2009-08-19 Thread Jones Beene
From: Mauro At first I thought Strange they didn't mention the fourth dimension. But Fournier is the man of the furnace, and furnus (oven) is the french origin for four. http://genealogy.about.com/library/surnames/f/bl_name-FOURNIER.htm This I did not know … (that “four” comes from

[Vo]:Progress on the Green Scene

2009-08-19 Thread Jones Beene
Washington, D.C. United States [RenewableEnergyWorld.com] The latest figures from the Energy Information Administration show that net U.S. electrical generation from renewable energy sources reached an all-time monthly high in May 2009. Combined, renewables accounted for 13 percent of total

Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite direction from event horizon

2009-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 19, 2009, at 4:30 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: Haven't had time to read all this interesting thread, Yes. You are apparently 8 days behind. just a couple things I noticed: Frank: how can you keep talking about the Lorentz contraction if the Lorentz transform doesn't make sense to

Re: [Vo]:ZPE Converter

2009-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 19, 2009, at 4:36 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: This guy has a job for Horace: http://z-pec.yolasite.com/ Click on Why I Need You. Terry Yes, he needs me to tell him that he missed some arrows. He missed the downward moving virtual photons that are too big to fit into the gaps.

Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite direction from event horizon

2009-08-19 Thread Michel Jullian
Had looked unsuccesssfully for Turing in this thread but hadn't read that other thread, as Harbach Jak doesn't pass the Turing test with me ;) Michel 2009/8/19 Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net: On Aug 19, 2009, at 4:30 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: Haven't had time to read all this

Re: [Vo]:Progress on the Green Scene

2009-08-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Jones Beenejone...@pacbell.net wrote: Statistically when you forecast out the 7.7% year-to-year gains in renewables, it only takes 10 years to totally eliminate fossil fuels, but of course that will not happen. And all that with no major breakthroughs. All

RE: [Vo]:Progress on the Green Scene

2009-08-19 Thread Jones Beene
Terry I agree with your point about breakthroughs, but let me correct the disinformation. There is a so-called rule of seventy that provides an easy way to measure the doubling period for a compounded rate. If there was a 7% rate of return, then the principal would double every ten years.

[Vo]:BB motor resistance measurements

2009-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
This is a quick check of BB motor resistance at 5 different rpms at low current using 4 runs. Fig. 1 is the circuit. (+)---P1---R1---P2---A---P3---Motor---P4---G Fig. 1 - BB motor resistance check circuit A is a DVM ammeter. R1 is 48.4 ohms. The current in the 5 runs was 0.19 A +- 0.01

Re: [Vo]:BB motor resistance measurements

2009-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
When I try to measure the BB motor resistance with a DVM the meter jumps all over the place, in the neighborhood of 1 k ohms. The mean value of the jumps depends on where the wheel is positioned. The eyeballed mean values varied from 0.3 k to 1.8 K. depending on where the wheel was, even

[Vo]:Lexus hybrid selling like hotcakes

2009-08-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
The Yomiuri reports that Lexus hybrids are selling like hotcakes in Japan. The car is back ordered until February next year, and selling at the rate of about 10,000 cars per month. The paper notes that sales were predicted to be 500 per month, so the actual sales rate is 20 times the sales

Re: [Vo]:BB motor resistance measurements

2009-08-19 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Two very quick thoughts, probably both bogus: 1) You're striking an arc inside the bearing, and the controlling thing is the voltage; below the critical voltage needed to strike the (very short!) arc the resistance is much higher Or 2) Somewhere in the bearing, at the junction between two

Re: [Vo]:Progress on the Green Scene

2009-08-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: Total net electrical generation in May 2009 from all sources showed a drop of 4.1 percent from May 2008. Some of that is due to factories being closed, however. Coal production is expected to fall by nearly 8 percent in 2009 to the lowest level in 8 years. When you

[Vo]:Paper on the ball bearing motor via Google

2009-08-19 Thread Harry Veeder
Put this abstract into Google: When a current is passed through a ball bearing it can act as a motor. This curious effect was pointed out by Milroy. The present paper gives a theoretical analysis of this effect. The motor can run in either direction on both dc and ac. It can be self-starting on

Re: [Vo]:BB motor resistance measurements

2009-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Two very quick thoughts, probably both bogus: 1) You're striking an arc inside the bearing, and the controlling thing is the voltage; below the critical voltage needed to strike the (very short!) arc the resistance is much higher

Re: [Vo]:Paper on the ball bearing motor via Google

2009-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 19, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Put this abstract into Google: When a current is passed through a ball bearing it can act as a motor. This curious effect was pointed out by Milroy. The present paper gives a theoretical analysis of this effect. The motor can run in

[Vo]:No Wonder Gravity is so Weak

2009-08-19 Thread Terry Blanton
This is one of the best descriptions I have seen of the multidimensional string theory: http://www.boingboing.net/2009/08/18/visualizing-up-to-te.html Terry

Re: [Vo]:Lexus hybrid selling like hotcakes

2009-08-19 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:37:54 -0400: Hi, [snip] The Yomiuri reports that Lexus hybrids are selling like hotcakes in Japan. The car is back ordered until February next year, and selling at the rate of about 10,000 cars per month. The paper notes that sales were

Re: [Vo]:BB motor resistance measurements

2009-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
Looks like Frank Stenger, an old vort, may have identified the likely cause of the 3 V or so drop. It is something called brush drop caused by the graphite. It is about 0.5 to 1.0 volts per brush, and for two bearings, two sides to each ball, that's 4 brushes. Google (brush drop volt).