As a pragmatic skeptic, I'm looking for a cold fusion anomaly of any kind
that has been described in exhaustive detail and which Believer's and
Agnostics have discussed throughly and have been unable to discount -- I
submit that the paper that Jed Rothwell cites in this thread is very sparse
on
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: lundi 13 mai 2013 04:34
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Palladium vs Ni-62
Well cost effective would be in the context of the value of the output
over time, no?
Rossi says a
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:00 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote:
On Sat, 11 May 2013, Joshua Cude wrote:
I'm not interested in an inaccessible (non-archived) list like vortex-b,
so
I'll just slink away. I may post a few responses to Rothwell's latest
replies over on
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I would not call Cude articulate.
How could you. You said yourself, you don't read what I write. It would be
presumptuous to give an opinion about something you haven't read.
As McKubre often says, I could do a
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
If you think there is merit to a skeptical point of view, why don't you
write about it?
Which would be in violation of Rule 2, as well.
Not at all. You can see many harsh
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote:
From reading the exchanges here and on other forums, I have the
impression (my 'verdict') that the evidence for lenr is
either:
anecdotal ('all the water boiled out of the
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
The existing level of good research almost certainly proves than nuclear
reactions can occur at low temperature.
No. That's manifestly wrong. If it almost certainly proves it, then experts
who examine it would say that.
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:
I wrote an entire book in order to place the evidence in one place and to
show how it relates to the claims.
In 2007. The world's view was not changed by it, and it's obvious why. The
evidence as reported in your book
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
I think it is rude for him not to address substantive points raised by
others, such as McKubre Fig. 1.
I did. Twice. I know it's easier for you to ignore what I write, and then
attribute made-up arguments to me you
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
I think many people have expressed highly skeptical view of BLP, Rossi
and others here. I think most of this skepticism is justified!
And yet you have said: Rossi has given out *far* more proof than any
previous
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
Their method is assertion rather than trying to advance
mutual understanding of the basic facts to be understood: there are no
convincing experiments, there is zero credible evidence, every experimental
result lies
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
To be concrete, I think the issue is primarily one about attention to
detail and to questions of burden of evidence. It's fine to be skeptical
of the tritium evidence, for example. But if one is going to argue against
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
How many replications does it take to ensure an effect is real?
Everyone will have a different answer. A knowledgeable person will want to
look at the papers, and evaluate the skills of the researchers, the choice
of
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
I have often cited this paper, which describes the final results from
Toyota's lab in France:
The results were presented in 1996. The lab closed in 1998. How could they
be final, unless they got nothing in the last 2
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
The most important factor in a cold fusion experiment is the choice of
host metal; the Pd cathode in this case. As Miles showed in Table 10, if
the person doing the experiment is skilled, the success rate varies from
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
First, palladium is rare and the price is extremely sensitive to demand. It
could double overnight and has done so, historically. There is no chance of
it going down.
On the other hand, half of it is used in catalytic converters, which will
not be
I wrote:
A brand new type of measurement, or one made with an experimental new type
of instrument, may be open to question.
That was the situation with polywater. That is why it took a couple of
years to determine it was caused by contamination. The results were very
close the limits of
William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote:
. . . since disbelief is itself a strong bias, what happens if we test the
opposite technique, and provisionally accept weird topics in order to study
them?Just try it, and everyone attacks you: You actually BELIEVE in
that crap?!! ANYONE WHO TAKES
I would say a proper debunking of polywater requires more than detecting
the presence of contaminants.
The concentrations of the contaminants has to be large enough to bring
about the property changes.
Were the concentrations measured?
If the concentrations are too small then polywater could still
Zounds! So, at first scan, the Toyota results are never presented in
precise details of procedures, materials, people, runs, results, control
runs, micro and nano level studies of changes in the Pd, throrough
measurements of impurity and isotopic shifts, radioactives, radiations, no
archived
From: Jed Rothwell
Then there is deuterium, which is also costly.
No, it is cheap per megajoule of energy it produces,
assuming it produces about as much as plasma fusion. It is likely to get
much cheaper because
Keep An Open Mind
by Hampus Ericsson.
https://soundcloud.com/hampus-ericsson/keep-an-open-mind#play
The song is about what it is like to follow Rossi's work.
Good music and lyrics!
Harry
For some years, before the crash in '08, I practised this sort of idea in stock
market investing - picking nothing but poorly known, speculative stocks. I did
very well even though 4 out 5 stocks usually failed, as the 5th more than made
up for the small losses incurred selling out of the
note that the role of impurities seems well known, and probably linked
to crystallography
http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?706-DARPA-Navy-Research-Labs-PdD-impurities-amp-LENR
Dominguez:
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
or rather, why do nearly all intelligent people reject it.
I know a lot about this, because I have access to the traffic data at
LENR-CANR.org. The answer is:
reply on
It is a judgement call.
***Then, since this is Bill Beaty's forum, it is up to him to come up with
the set of facts that we consider to be the watershed between debunkers and
small-s skeptics. I have posted what I consider to be the base set and
will proceed from it until Bill weighs in. Others
Viewpoint: Crystals of Time
Researchers propose how to realize time crystals, structures whose
lowest-energy states are periodic both in time and space.
http://physics.aps.org/articles/v5/116
quote Time crystals may sound dangerously close to a perpetual motion
machine, but it is worth
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
Viewpoint: Crystals of Time
Researchers propose how to realize time crystals, structures whose
lowest-energy states are periodic both in time and space.
http://physics.aps.org/articles/v5/116
quote Time crystals may
I can't figure out how Rossi claims a COP of 100-200
May 12th, 2013 at 9:59 PM
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=802cpage=9#comment-694786
Dear Dr Joseph Fine:
Please don’t go too far: just, for now, let’s limit to what I wrote about the
Activator/E-Cat cycle. Please read carefully
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.comwrote:
Viewpoint: Crystals of Time
Researchers propose how to realize time crystals, structures whose
lowest-energy states are periodic both in time
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1305.0331
Spontaneous and Stimulated Raman Scattering near Metal Nanostructures in
the Ultrafast, High-Intensity regime
This paper explains how nanoantennas amplify electric fields through Stokes
and anti-Stokes field conversion.
Stokes and anti-Stokes scattering is the
Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote:
. . . in all these hundreds of successful runs have not one scientist saved
pristine and used samples of JM Pd?
I am sure they did save them. The people at JM told me they did.
Very reasonable, cautious, open-minded agnostics can not be expected to
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
But it was inferior calorimetry, and it used boiling water. Rossi is a
master at the boiling water fake, getting a factor of 7 out of it. Pons
only managed a factor of 2 or so.
As anyone can see from the paper, the method is completely different from
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
As Miles showed in Table 10, if the person doing the experiment is skilled,
the success rate varies from zero to 100% depending on the material.
Really? You need skill to get a success rate from 0 to 100%?
You need skill to get any excess heat at
Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote:
Zounds! So, at first scan, the Toyota results are never presented in
precise details of procedures, materials, people, runs, results, control
runs, micro and nano level studies . . .
First, those studies were mainly done by JM, not Toyota. Second, these
National Ignition Facility made history with record 500 terawatt shot, but
the pulse duration is just a few picoseconds.
The power produced by a nanoantenna is almost as powerful as that generated
by the National Ignition Facility, but that power level is maintained for
an extended period of
5*10^14 * 10^-12 = 500W, heh.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
Date: 2013/5/13
Subject: [Vo]:LENR research
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
National Ignition Facility made history with record 500 terawatt shot, but
the pulse duration is just a few
Farzan Amini asks that you have a look at his paper and send him any
reaction you might have. I entered the publisher as LENR-CANR.org for now.
I think it will be published elsewhere soon.
Amini, F., *The Study of Cavitation Bubble-Surface Plasmon Resonance
Interaction For LENR and Biochemical
Martin Fleischmann of cold fusion fame is the founder of the
Surface-enhanced Raman scattering (SERS) reaction.
The enhanced Raman signal of pyridine adsorbed on roughened electrochemical
silver electrode, observed by Fleischmann et. al in 1974. This research is
considered to be the first
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
National Ignition Facility made history with record 500 terawatt shot, but
the pulse duration is just a few picoseconds.
No it's about 4 ns. That corresponds to about 1.8 MJ of energy. It's not
that hard to look these
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
5*10^14 * 10^-12 = 500W, heh.
Wrong time, wrong units. But good try.
The duration is 4 ns, and the total energy is about 1.8 MJ. There's no need
to do any calculations. Just google it. NIF is proud enough to
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
As Miles showed in Table 10, if the person doing the experiment is
skilled, the success rate varies from zero to 100% depending on the
material.
Really? You need skill to
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
But it was inferior calorimetry, and it used boiling water. Rossi is a
master at the boiling water fake, getting a factor of 7 out of it. Pons
only managed a factor of 2 or
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote:
Zounds! So, at first scan, the Toyota results are never presented in
precise details of procedures, materials, people, runs, results, control
runs, micro and nano level studies .
As for the time and dimensions of that energy density, it would take some
time to digest the paper, and some of the citations, but it seems to me
that the time scale is sub-picosecond which gives energy in the eV range on
the atomic dimension scale. That's consistent with the statement that
To illustrate this concept of power concentration, take the example of the
big laser based inertial confinement fusion effort at the National Ignition
Facility. On the one hand, by marshaling huge amounts of electrical
energy… an amount of power that can easily light all the worlds electrical
Farzan's e-mail address is on p. 1, top.
- Jed
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
***We can proceed with the same probability math I used upthread. If one
considers it to be 1/3 chance of generating a false-positive excess heat
event, then you take that 1/3 to the power of how many replications are on
record.
That is a form of
If you split the time between activator and ecat as he suggests you get
slightly different numbers:
0.91 * 35% of the time = 0.3185 kWh/h
1 * 65% of the time = 0.65 kWh/h
total output = 0.9685 kWh/h
input = 0.9 * 35% of the time = 0.315 kWh/h
COP = 3.07
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Alan
With volumes exceeding 20M shares in the past two days of trading, TSLA is
flirting with ta $90 share price. Had you bought 1000 shares at the IPO
price, you could now buy a low end Tesla S for your $16,000 investment
(excluding taxes).
Kewl!
See also:
Tesla sales beating Mercedes, BMW and Audi
http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/13/autos/tesla-sales-bmw-mercedes-audi/
- Jed
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.comwrote:
COP = 3.07
The magic ratio that FE people have sought!
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
See also:
Tesla sales beating Mercedes, BMW and Audi
http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/13/autos/tesla-sales-bmw-mercedes-audi/
So, will the next James Bond movie include a Tesla? After all, it was born
of a British
If you split the time between activator and ecat as he suggests you
get slightly different numbers:
0.91 * 35% of the time = 0.3185 kWh/h
1 * 65% of the time = 0.65 kWh/h
total output = 0.9685 kWh/h
input = 0.9 * 35% of the time = 0.315 kWh/h
COP = 3.07
That's how I did it at
I thought he might have done a typo, and mean 10 kWh/h so I emailed him to
ask.
He confirmed that it was a typo, and he meant 10kWh/h for the ecat, just
like it has always been.
If that is the case:
0.91 * 35% of the time = 0.3185 kWh/h
*10* * 65% of the time = 6.5 kWh/h
total output = 6.8185
This post describes the mechanism that produces large power concentrations
in a multi-nanoparticle system where the particles vary widely in particle
sizes.
First, let’s set the table.
A cascade amplifier is any diode constructed from a series of amplifiers,
where each amplifier sends its output
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
***We can proceed with the same probability math I used upthread. If one
considers it to be 1/3 chance of generating a false-positive excess heat
event, then you take that
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
So, will the next James Bond movie include a Tesla? After all, it was born
of a British Lotus.
I bet it is too quiet to make a compelling James Bond car.
Eric
Peaks of COP 200 then.
2013/5/13 Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.com
I thought he might have done a typo, and mean 10 kWh/h so I emailed him to
ask.
He confirmed that it was a typo, and he meant 10kWh/h for the ecat, just
like it has always been.
If that is the case:
0.91 * 35% of the
What it represents is the probability that ALL of the replications were the
result of error. It is exceedingly small. Far below the mathematical
definition of impossible, which is 10^-50.
That is what Joshua Cude thinks is the case.
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Joshua Cude
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