[Vo]:Liquid Jet Fuel Doesn't Explode?

2013-06-19 Thread Terry Blanton
Two days before the opening of the Summer Olympics here in Atlanta, it is likely that terrorists launched a missile from a boat off the NY coast and took down TWA Flight 800. It was discussed extensively here (and everywhere); but, few here believed the explanation that a tank of jet fuel

[Vo]:Casimir Effect -great summation!

2013-06-19 Thread Roarty, Francis X
I went looking for temporal anomalies related to casimir effect. This link, http://www.andersoninstitute.com/casimir-effect.html is an excellent review and update but did not lend much support to my quest despite the title. There was also an important reminder regarding the real world limits

RE: [Vo]:Casimir Effect -great summation!

2013-06-19 Thread Jones Beene
From: Roarty, Francis X I went looking for temporal anomalies related to casimir effect. This link, http://www.andersoninstitute.com/casimir-effect.html Fran, Don't know if you have already mentioned this paper, but it fills in another part of the Ni-H puzzle or thermal gain with

RE: [Vo]:Liquid Jet Fuel Doesn't Explode?

2013-06-19 Thread Jones Beene
Wiki has already updated their entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800 and include radar data, and a photo of the streak of light (purported missile)... -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Two days before the opening of the Summer Olympics here in Atlanta, it is likely

[Vo]:MFMP has built a flow calorimeter

2013-06-19 Thread H Veeder
The Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project has built a flow calorimeter for their next series of tests. Lots of pictures of the apparatus: http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/follow/follow-3/280-multi-wire-test-to-be-run-with-new-flow-calorimeter#!DSC05822__Medium_ Harry

RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Casimir Effect -great summation!

2013-06-19 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Jones, I recall phonons are wave propagation on a sea of surface electrons rather than electron flow through the medium but I wasn't aware they or even plasma were capable of modifying casimir force. Your citation suggests both are well known properties. I agree plasmons make

Re: [Vo]:MFMP has built a flow calorimeter

2013-06-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
That's something. It is sort of the opposite of most calorimeters, but I guess it should work. It says: Instead of measuring the exact mass flow rate, or the volume flow rate, however, we measure the heat capacity flow rate. What they mean is, they have a metering heater. That's the second

[Vo]:Pons-Fleischmann also saw heat from light water in 1989

2013-06-19 Thread pagnucco
1998 SRI International Hydrogen LENR Experiment Produces Helium-4 EXCERPT: New Energy Times has discovered that a 1998 light-hydrogen gas LENR experiment performed at SRI International, in Menlo Park, Calif., unexpectedly produced a significant amount of helium-4. ... At the Dallas, Texas,

Re: [Vo]:Pons-Fleischmann also saw heat from light water in 1989

2013-06-19 Thread Axil Axil
No neutrons required. Remember that He4 most probably is a product from alpha emission. The probability of hydrogen fusion is very low. On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:03 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: 1998 SRI International Hydrogen LENR Experiment Produces Helium-4 EXCERPT: New Energy

Re: [Vo]:Pons-Fleischmann also saw heat from light water in 1989

2013-06-19 Thread pagnucco
Here is the URL - http://news.newenergytimes.net/2013/06/19/1998-sri-international-hydrogen-lenr-experiment-produces-helium-4/ 1998 SRI International Hydrogen LENR Experiment Produces Helium-4 EXCERPT: New Energy Times has discovered that a 1998 light-hydrogen gas LENR experiment performed

Re: [Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Also, Millstone has apparently never heard of the second law of thermodynamics. He keeps insisting we can't be sure the heat originates from inside the cell because they measure the temperature at the outside wall. He said, quote: The actual E-Cat, supposedly producing the 'excess' heat, was a

RE: [Vo]:MFMP has built a flow calorimeter

2013-06-19 Thread DJ Cravens
Be sure to use inline static mixers up stream from your sensors. I don't see that stated. It is very important. Also me sure that the leads/shield probe length to the sensor are in the flow for a good distance so there is no wicking of temperature. D2 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:01:15 -0400

RE: [Vo]:MFMP has built a flow calorimeter

2013-06-19 Thread DJ Cravens
just a right angle bend is usually not enough. The flow at low rates is not well mixed and the placement of the sensor in the radial direction becomes important. You need a mixer that mixes the outer and inner radial parts of the flow. D2 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:51:59 -0400 Subject:

RE: [Vo]:MFMP has built a flow calorimeter

2013-06-19 Thread DJ Cravens
Oh I should say that 15 ml / min is OK, depending on what your expected heat output is. It is almost the magic 14.33 ml/min that gives you 1 degree / watt. My guess is that they may practically get to about +/- 50 mW with the system. I would worry that the hot glue and heat shrink may cause

Re: [Vo]:MFMP has built a flow calorimeter

2013-06-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote: Be sure to use inline static mixers up stream from your sensors. I don't see that stated. Yeah, I thought about those in-line mixers you use when I read this. You should go on the MFMP site and recommend those things. Give them the part name and number.

RE: [Vo]:MFMP has built a flow calorimeter

2013-06-19 Thread DJ Cravens
Oh, yes, if your budget is short, you can get static mixers in some epoxy glue kits for cheap. D2 From: djcrav...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:MFMP has built a flow calorimeter Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:26:21 -0600 Be sure to use inline static mixers up stream

Re: [Vo]:@NewEnergyTimes: 1998 SRI International Hydrogen LENR Experiment Produces Helium-4

2013-06-19 Thread pagnucco
Robert Park mentions it on p.24 of his book Voodoo Science: The Road from Foolishness to Fraud. See - books.google.com/books?isbn=0198604432 http://goo.gl/zn1Lb Is this a known expriment?

Re: [Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-19 Thread H Veeder
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Also, Millstone has apparently never heard of the second law of thermodynamics. He keeps insisting we can't be sure the heat originates from inside the cell because they measure the temperature at the outside wall. He

Re: [Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Irrespective of fraud, he is technically right. We don't know what the temperature is at the centre of the Ecat. Yes. I went on to say that. I did not quote my entire response. I also said: . . . Presumably the anomalous reaction occurred in the inner

Re: [Vo]:@NewEnergyTimes: 1998 SRI International Hydrogen LENR Experiment Produces Helium-4

2013-06-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
The account at New Energy Times seems garbled to me. I have not heard of an experiment at SRI that produced helium starting from hydrogen. As far as I know, the Ni-H experiments at SRI did not work. I do not recall anyone who looked for helium or deuterium in Ni-H or Pd-H experiments. As readers

Re: [Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-19 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 2:49:37 PM Irrespective of fraud, he is technically right. We don't know what the temperature is at the centre of the Ecat. The production of energy and the transformation of the energy into heat do not have to occur in the

Re: [Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 2:49:37 PM Irrespective of fraud, he is technically right. We don't know what the temperature is at the centre of the Ecat. . . . Not right, because it doesn't matter for a black

Re: [Vo]:@NewEnergyTimes: 1998 SRI International Hydrogen LENR Experiment Produces Helium-4

2013-06-19 Thread James Bowery
What is your diagnosis of Krivit? The reason I ask is that his site has provided important information available nowhere else online that I can see, which means that his bad information does more damage. A diagnosis would help calibrate. On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-19 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: If the thermalization is on the nickel powder ... then things are complicated : will the powder melt? This was one of Joshua Cude's questions. It's a very interesting question. I think it was passed by too quickly during the

Re: [Vo]:Pons-Fleischmann also saw heat from light water in 1989

2013-06-19 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:03 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: 1998 SRI International Hydrogen LENR Experiment Produces Helium-4 It would be interesting to see the paper they're referring to. Note that one of the reactions with lithium (which might be in an electrolyte or an impurity in the

Re: [Vo]:Pons-Fleischmann also saw heat from light water in 1989

2013-06-19 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: So if you have fast protons shooting out of the cathode (if it is an electrolytic experiment), and LiOH or LiOD is being used, you could get 4He. Reading more carefully, I see that it was a light-hydrogen gas experiment. The light hydrogen part rules out LiOD (if it were an

Re: [Vo]:Pons-Fleischmann also saw heat from light water in 1989

2013-06-19 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:21:36 -0700: Hi, [snip] On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:03 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: 1998 SRI International Hydrogen LENR Experiment Produces Helium-4 It would be interesting to see the paper they're referring to. Note that one of

Re: [Vo]:@NewEnergyTimes: 1998 SRI International Hydrogen LENR Experiment Produces Helium-4

2013-06-19 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 19 Jun 2013 22:05:40 -0400: Hi, [snip] My feeling is that you will never find a model or a theory that fits all of the data, because some of the data is mistaken. Some of the claims have only rarely been seen, at small s/n ratios. They may be mistakes.

Re: [Vo]:@NewEnergyTimes: 1998 SRI International Hydrogen LENR Experiment Produces Helium-4

2013-06-19 Thread Paul Breed
Jed, I've read behind the paywall... It looks like the two D cells made He4 significantly above background He4. One of the H cells started with no He4 and ended with no He 4... The other H cell had a slowly increasing He4, but it seemed to asymptotic with back ground Atmospheric He4... never

[Vo]:Science fiction stop action movie by my son Saverio-Madis

2013-06-19 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
My son Saverio Madis made a pretty good stop action movie about space exploration and an eventful encounter between galactic civilizations. Please support this budding science-artist and visit his youtube page, like and leave a comment if you can. Thank you for your support, Giovanni We come in

Re: [Vo]:@NewEnergyTimes: 1998 SRI International Hydrogen LENR Experiment Produces Helium-4

2013-06-19 Thread pagnucco
But, what of the excess heat Pons allegedly saw in the H cell(s)? Paul Breed wrote: I've read behind the paywall... It looks like the two D cells made He4 significantly above background He4. One of the H cells started with no He4 and ended with no He 4... The other H cell had a slowly