RE: [Vo]:What Happened in CE 774?

2013-09-30 Thread Mauro Lacy
Hi Jones, Terry, I just saw the subject's message (http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg66408.html) yesterday, while searching the vortex-l archives. I unsubscribed from vortex-l months ago, because I was unable to keep up, mostly because of the amount of Rossi related stuff.

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread Mauro Lacy
Mark Jurich wrote: FYI: arXiv of this paper: http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1106/1106.0847.pdf Interesting paper, thanks. I found it odd that nobody mentions the *positions* of the planets (Jupiter, mainly), during solar max. Maybe to try to avoid the association with astrology, the

Re: [Vo]:What Happened in CE 774?

2013-09-30 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 09/30/2013 08:53 AM, Mauro Lacy wrote: ... Assuming that the event took place at the beginning of AD 774, we obtain (1870.6-774)/5.539 = 197.978, which is in excellent agreement. And assuming the end of 774, we get (1870.6-774.9)/5.539 = 197.815, which is still in good agreement. Needless

RE: [Vo]:What Happened in CE 774?

2013-09-30 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Mauro, Thanks for bringing this point up again. Being in the Southern hemisphere, EC is probably harder for you to forget :) Periodically we delve in-and-out of cosmological ramblings on Vortex, looking for the possible LENR connection (or rather an external stimulus to LENR) and to be

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
I believe we will find that this whole universe orbits based upon energetic, quantum gravity fields of dark/vacuum energy between bodies. Earth's magnetic field protects us from a lot of the energetic stuff, but what gets through creates our weather disturbances and ionizes the atmosphere. When

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:32 AM, Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar wrote: ** I found it odd that nobody mentions the *positions* of the planets (Jupiter, mainly), during solar max. Maybe to try to avoid the association with astrology, the constellations, and related pseudo-scientific stuff? Could

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
Eric, I believe YES. If you look at the Sunspots, they harbor the elliptical, magnetic flux tubes(strings of vacuum energy in my model) that generate solar flares and CME's and stream energetic particles. I believe these energetic particles are collapsed/dark vacuum energy (branes from M

Re: [Vo]:A great, pleasant meeting

2013-09-30 Thread Axil Axil
*http://prod.sandia.gov/techlib/access-control.cgi/2009/097874.pdf* * * * * *The results of transmutation from the proton 21 experiments have been replicated by Sandia National Laboratories* * * * * * * *See* * * * * *4. CONCLUSIONS* * * *The Proton-21 Laboratory in the Ukraine has

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 09/30/2013 11:47 AM, Eric Walker wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:32 AM, Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar mailto:ma...@lacy.com.ar wrote: I found it odd that nobody mentions the *positions* of the planets (Jupiter, mainly), during solar max. Maybe to try to avoid the association

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
Are these the same guys that missed the mass/energy of the universe by 1900% (95/5)...:) On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar wrote: ** On 09/30/2013 11:47 AM, Eric Walker wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:32 AM, Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar wrote: I found it

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 09/30/2013 12:20 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote: Are these the same guys that missed the mass/energy of the universe by 1900% (95/5)...:) The point being, in any case, that the effect of the planets on the Sun can't be explained by a *conventional* tidal effect, that is, the ones depending on

Re: [Vo]:A great, pleasant meeting

2013-09-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: *The results of transmutation from the proton 21 experiments have been replicated by Sandia National Laboratories* Yes, but they determined the results have a prosaic cause: contamination. Not transmutation. *I would think that Sandia labs would have

Re: [Vo]:A great, pleasant meeting

2013-09-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Does it necessarily follow that every mass-energy conversion must have a nuclear _origin_? The answer is no because if the principle of mass-energy equivalency is applied rigorously to chemical reactions, some mass-energy conversion will occur although it

Re: [Vo]:A great, pleasant meeting

2013-09-30 Thread Edmund Storms
Actually Jed, the mass change can be measured. Of course this is not done using a laboratory scales. However, if the mass and energy of the individual particles resulting from the nuclear reaction are measured, the numbers add up correctly. Ed On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:19 PM, Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:A great, pleasant meeting

2013-09-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Actually Jed, the mass change can be measured. Of course this is not done using a laboratory scales. However, if the mass and energy of the individual particles resulting from the nuclear reaction are measured, the numbers add up correctly. Sure. I

Re: [Vo]:A great, pleasant meeting

2013-09-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Malinovskyi said that Proton-21 scientists presented these results at a seminar in Bonn, Germany, in 2004; and he stated that, since then, they have had collaborations with many European laboratories, which rechecked their experiments, measured the

Re: [Vo]:New LENR Patent Application

2013-09-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 29 Sep 2013 23:48:46 -0400: Hi, [snip] For example, titanium hydride has long been used as a heat based hydrogen source/sink. It was always obvious that some form of metal hydride was intended. I was just pointing out the typo in the patent. On Sun, Sep

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Mauro Lacy's message of Mon, 30 Sep 2013 09:32:02 -0300: Hi, [snip] I found it odd that nobody mentions the *positions* of the planets (Jupiter, mainly), during solar max. Maybe to try to avoid the association with astrology, the constellations, and related pseudo-scientific stuff?

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 30 Sep 2013 07:47:26 -0700: Hi, Could the eleven year solar cycle be the reason that the largest planet in the solar system formed at a distance where the orbital period matched the solar cycle? (roughly). [snip] Could there be some kind of effect from

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread David Roberson
I have read of a model of the sun which tend to demonstrate the magnetic effects (sun spots) based upon magnetic field lines captured within the conductive plasma. The lines get twisted as the sun rotates according to the model. Perhaps the whole concern about an 11 year cycle affected by

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
David, They don't just twist, they break off and go thru magnetic reconnection expelling billions of tons of energetic particles into space as CMEs and also flares. At 1-5 per day over a few billion years that is a lot of energetic stuff, where is all that stuff? Stewart A *coronal mass

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 4:06 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Dark energy, matter and gravitational effects are likely not involved to any major degree. I like Robin's approach -- perhaps there's an intrinsic process driving the sun's 11 year cycle, and it has influenced where the

RE: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread Jones Beene
One further (far-out :-) thought on this 11- year cycle… and it is that we are seeing what is basically a holdover resonance from the “previous system”. Our sun is a second or third generation star – meaning that it has gone through more than one iteration of collapse and rebirth. Where was

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
I sorta think most of these stars are multi-dimensional branes at their core that decay to hydrogen and eject/leak branes further out as the universe expands, ie. maybe our solar system is just a bunch of galactic mass ejections like comets caught in quantum orbit with each other and the gas

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread David Roberson
I have the same opinion as you Eric. It is difficult to believe in dark matter in particular since it can not be detected except through the behavior of gravitation. I find it easier to suspect that there is a phenomena occurring in the behavior of gravity that we have not yet discovered.

Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter

2013-09-30 Thread David Roberson
That is an interesting idea Jones. I was thinking of another possibility that we might want to consider. Much of my career has been associated with radios and consequently oscillators. I have designed numerous types of these including VCO's and crystal versions so I have a tendency to see

[Vo]:Sound in a Vacuum

2013-09-30 Thread David Roberson
I had an interesting thought that I wanted to share with the gang. What would happen if you ring a bell that is totally engulfed within a vacuum? Since there is no way for the energy to escape the bell by being radiated through air one would think that the sound waves contained within the