Re: [Vo]:X-prize proposal

2014-05-28 Thread Kevin O'Malley
It appears that my X prize proposal wins the popularity contest. *Thinking Big Is The Easy Part: My Weekend Dreaming Up The Next XPrize* http://www.fastcoexist.com/3030775/thinking-big-is-the-easy-part-my-weekend-dreaming-up-the-next-xprize When a couple of journalists join a bunch of

Re: [Vo]: LENR XPrize proposal

2014-05-28 Thread Kevin O'Malley
It appears that my X prize proposal wins the popularity contest. *Thinking Big Is The Easy Part: My Weekend Dreaming Up The Next XPrize* http://www.fastcoexist.com/3030775/thinking-big-is-the-easy-part-my-weekend-dreaming-up-the-next- xprize When a couple of journalists join a bunch of

[Vo]:Cold Fusion X Prize

2014-05-28 Thread Kevin O'Malley
It appears that my X prize proposal wins the popularity contest. *Thinking Big Is The Easy Part: My Weekend Dreaming Up The Next XPrize* http://www.fastcoexist.com/3030775/thinking-big-is-the-easy-part-my-weekend-dreaming-up-the-next- xprize When a couple of journalists join a bunch of

[Vo]:Triple helixes in DNA

2014-05-28 Thread Nigel Dyer
Robin They change the structure of the DNA. Any change in the structure will have an effect on gene expression, and they have shown experimentally that the presence of triple helixes does appear to be one of the ways that nature controls gene expression. I think triple helixes are more

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion X Prize

2014-05-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: It appears that my X prize proposal wins the popularity contest. *Thinking Big Is The Easy Part: My Weekend Dreaming Up The Next XPrize* http://www.fastcoexist.com/3030775/thinking-big-is-the-easy-part-my-weekend-dreaming-up-the-next- xprize

RE: [Vo]:Cold Fusion X Prize

2014-05-28 Thread Jones Beene
Kevin’s proposal is apparently to create an x-prize specifically for LENR, and not the device itself. … or else I missed it. From: Jed Rothwell Kevin O'Malley wrote: It appears that my X prize proposal wins the popularity contest. Thinking Big Is The Easy Part: My

[Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread Steve High
As if things weren't bad enough we now learn that solar energy is dimming the lights. http://nationalreport.net/solar-panels-drain-suns-energy-experts-say/ Commence Debunking in 3...2...1... I know, I know. Wyoming is a beautiful high desert state but not a lot happening at the Wyoming

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread Foks0904 .
LOL. What a horribly disturbing, consciousness-mutating information matrix we live in. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Steve High diamondweb...@gmail.comwrote: As if things weren't bad enough we now learn that solar energy is dimming the lights.

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread David Roberson
And someone paid for this discovery? This ranks up there with some of the most ignorant things I have heard during my lifetime. Dave -Original Message- From: Steve High diamondweb...@gmail.com To: Vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, May 28, 2014 10:25 am Subject: [Vo]:Solar

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread Foks0904 .
Dave, you don't seem to understand that they are America's #1 Independent News Team. Even Halliburton thinks so. What possible motive could they have to mislead us? On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:37 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: And someone paid for this discovery? This ranks up

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread Foks0904 .
This is satire right? On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, you don't seem to understand that they are America's #1 Independent News Team. Even Halliburton thinks so. What possible motive could they have to mislead us? On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:37

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread Axil Axil
“Solar panels destroying the sun could potentially be the worst man-made climate disaster in the history of the world, and Halliburton will not be taking part in that,” the company stated in a press release issued Friday morning. “It’s obvious, based on the findings of this neutral scientific

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread Foks0904 .
Axil, while this article is hilarious and is on par with much of the nonsense that comes out of politicized factions such as the neo-conservatives, I think this is a satirical article on a satirical site. At least I hope so. If it is a satirical site, which I think it is, it's really nice work

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread Nigel Dyer
Its a satirical site.The irony is that many Americans don't get satire and irony. Nigel On 28/05/2014 15:59, Foks0904 . wrote: Axil, while this article is hilarious and is on par with much of the nonsense that comes out of politicized factions such as the neo-conservatives, I think this

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread Foks0904 .
We Americans don't get a lot of things actually. Inability to recognize satire is the least of our issues really. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote: Its a satirical site.The irony is that many Americans don't get satire and irony. Nigel On

RE: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread Jones Beene
I was shocked to learn that my favorite news ( entertainment) channel was not exactly reporting the facts… …no, no … not that one. This one: http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-whe re-this,36131/ From: Foks0904

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread Axil Axil
http://wyofile.com/gregory_nickerson/halliburton-joins-university-of-wyomings-list-of-energy-donors/ Halliburton recently joined the list of energy donors at the University of Wyoming with a $3 million gift that officials say underscores the close collaboration between the energy industry, state

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread Axil Axil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law *Poe's law*, named after its author Nathan Poe, is an Internet adagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adagereflecting the idea that without a clear indication of the author's intent, it is difficult or impossible to tell the difference between an expression of

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread Foks0904 .
It's obviously well done and reflective of Poe's Law. Regardless, I don't feel stupid for being taken in by a good satire, or feel the need to defend myself for being naïve for a 15-minute span of time before figuring it out. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread Axil Axil
Such satire is dangerous and often counter productive. People who are not trained in right thinking will believe what they want and need to believe no matter what facts or logic demand. For example, at one point 47 percent of Americans believed that Obama was born in Kenya. On Wed, May 28, 2014

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread Foks0904 .
I get you. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Such satire is dangerous and often counter productive. People who are not trained in right thinking will believe what they want and need to believe no matter what facts or logic demand. For example, at one

[Vo]:electron orbital speed

2014-05-28 Thread Roarty, Francis X
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070323171548.htm I Found a sort of yardstick I've been needing gold electrons whip around atom at roughly .5C [snip] In an atom, where electrons race around the nucleus like buzzing bees, the velocity of an electron doesn't get anywhere near the

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion X Prize

2014-05-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Kevin’s proposal is apparently to create an x-prize specifically for LENR, and not the device itself. My question is: Is this article about Kevin's proposal specifically? Or did the people in this article happen to talk about an X-prize for cold fusion,

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread Alain Sepeda
I've read desperate environmentalist calls about Oxygen that was disaprearing on earth... on the other side people saying that we will soon lack of water (despite it is the most recyclable good on earth), or of metals, of uranium, seems to have convinced UNO and media... Looking what the LENR

[Vo]:BlackLight's Second Test of Automated Ignition System

2014-05-28 Thread Axil Axil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vh88aVr6i8feature=youtu.be R. Mills is answering questions

Re: [Vo]:electron orbital speed

2014-05-28 Thread Axil Axil
The assumption that underlies this electron penetrating into the nucleus business is that the electron will cause a nuclear reaction when it penetrates the nucleus. I don't remember seeing any cross sections of this sort of reaction. There have been many atom smasher studies that explore the

Re: [Vo]:electron orbital speed

2014-05-28 Thread Axil Axil
More http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_capture This is a special sort of radioactive decay mode when there is an large imbalance of protons and neutrons in the nucleus. In this case, a gamma from a secondary positron decay will be present. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Axil Axil

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread David Roberson
At least I got a lot of laughing from that satire. Of course I knew it was insane to believe that any effect originating on the tiny earth could influence the enormous sun, but unfortunately I have heard much nonsense from certain scientists and considered that they might actually be capable

Re: [Vo]:electron orbital speed

2014-05-28 Thread David Roberson
Are you confident that the electron motion can be so well defined? A point charge moving around a nucleus at an accurately determined speed and location has problems according to how I understand the quantum theory. Also, radiation from an accelerating point charge would be extremely

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: I've read desperate environmentalist calls about Oxygen that was disaprearing on earth... That is actually plausible. People are burning fossil fuels, exhausting a large fraction of the carbon that was sequestered underground. That forms CO2, which

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread Alain Sepeda
there is a big problem when you both to have to be careful of what you best friend find in tabloid to make you panic on chemtrails conspiracy, as much as what UNO find in Nature to launch a new save the planet charity about plane trails impact on bees population. 2014-05-28 22:15 GMT+02:00 David

Re: [Vo]:Solar Panels Drain the Suns Energy Experts Say

2014-05-28 Thread ChemE Stewart
On that note... I have another Chicken Little/Sky is Falling theory regarding EMF and our dissolving Earth...:) Some of you might know the price of oranges has tripled and many/most of the trees in Florida are dying due to citrus greening/canker Hundreds of researchers around the world are

Re: [Vo]:a tip for Ni/H developers

2014-05-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 28 Apr 2014 02:37:40 -0400: Hi, [snip] http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1202/1202.6603.pdf *Ultra-Thin Metal Films for Enhanced Solar Absorption* To optimize photonic responsiveness, one of the reasons that nickel is a great LENR material is that it

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion X Prize

2014-05-28 Thread James Bowery
There was quite a bit of research put into the legislative language for fusion prizes http://www.oocities.org/jim_bowery/BussardsLetter.html. You might at least cite it since the late Robert Bussard thought it was fair and well enough drafted that he promoted it. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:17

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2014-05-28 Thread Bob Cook
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[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:A Stupidity‐Based Theory of Organizations

2014-05-28 Thread Lennart Thornros
Institutional incompetence James wrote Jed said most wars are fought with stupidity as a leading star. I think you both are right. This is not a new idea the examples are easy to find. Unfortunately it is a self propelling disease, once a group has accepted one stupid rule than it is easy to

[Vo]:Paired electrons as a catalyst for LENR

2014-05-28 Thread Bob Cook
The following link addresses this possibility: http://pdf.vestnik.susu.ac.ru/mpc/04/10p046_Andrianov.pdf This idea is presented in an item in the current Infinite Energy Issue of March/April 2014 by Andrianov. He thinks that the Chelyabinsk Meteor that exploded last year could have

RE: [Vo]:Paired electrons as a catalyst for LENR

2014-05-28 Thread Jones Beene
This idea is somewhat similar to three related threads which were circulating here a decade ago – all the way back to 2002 actually. One was Fred Sparber’s triad lepton called “electronium”, and another was the “heavy electron” of Widom and Larsen or the degenerate electron of Horace Hefner

[Vo]:positronium BEC from molecular Ps2

2014-05-28 Thread Jones Beene
Interesting digging... make that tunneling for novel particles which could be involved in LENR due to transfer or coupling from Dirac's sea into 3-space. Besides positronium itself and electronium (as a hypothetical particle) - there is molecular positronium, which may not be hypothetical.

Re: [Vo]:positronium BEC from molecular Ps2

2014-05-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: If the Dirac sea exists in another physical dimension at near zero K, as assumed, and is also a BEC in itself, according to Don Hotson, then it might be possible to collect liquid Ps2 directly for use as... hmmm... rocket

Re: [Vo]:a tip for Ni/H developers

2014-05-28 Thread Axil Axil
Heat based technologies have the added requirement to maximize temperature rise, which implies minimizing radiation in the thermal infrared band. Thus there are conflicting requirements of strong absorption in the visible, with minimum emission in the far infrared range; the figure of merit for

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion X Prize

2014-05-28 Thread Kevin O'Malley
It is a coincidence. But my original proposal was to 2 members of the X prize committee. Great minds think alike (GMTA)... On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: It appears that my X prize proposal wins the

Re: [Vo]:positronium BEC from molecular Ps2

2014-05-28 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: This molecule would be uncharged and have two positrons and two electrons and be similar to H2 in that way - but notably, would be bosonic in its own unique way (double Cooper pairs?) and presumably more stable than Ps.

Re: [Vo]:positronium BEC from molecular Ps2

2014-05-28 Thread Axil Axil
The vacuum is a spin net liquid where virtual particles are created and destroyed in rapid fashion where their spins are random existing without order. When a process imposes order on these virtual particles, the vacuum becomes a factor and gains strength. For example, magnetic field lines

RE: [Vo]:positronium BEC from molecular Ps2

2014-05-28 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton If the Dirac sea exists in another physical dimension at near zero K, as assumed, and is also a BEC in itself, according to Don Hotson, then it might be possible to collect liquid Ps2 directly for use as... hmmm... rocket fuel? Come on Jonesie,

Re: [Vo]:BlackLight's Second Test of Automated Ignition System

2014-05-28 Thread Eric Walker
What I don't get is how this footage would impress anyone. Perhaps my lack of appreciation is due to my lack of knowledge. No doubt if you're an expert at microcalorimetry and allied fields, you would know, on the basis of your extensive experience, merely from seeing and hearing this footage,

RE: [Vo]:positronium BEC from molecular Ps2

2014-05-28 Thread Jones Beene
Kevin, Yes, but there is no deuterium fusion for the Lochon to catalyze (at least not in the recent Mizuno work). In fact, the reaction looks more like fission of deuterons into twice as much hydrogen, which should be endothermic. The positronium molecule, as a reactant, would provide

Re: [Vo]:a tip for Ni/H developers

2014-05-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 28 May 2014 22:16:29 -0400: Hi, Heat based technologies have the added requirement to maximize temperature rise, which implies minimizing radiation in the thermal infrared band. Thus there are conflicting requirements of strong absorption in the visible,

Re: [Vo]:electron orbital speed

2014-05-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 28 May 2014 14:57:56 -0400: Hi, [snip] The assumption that underlies this electron penetrating into the nucleus business is that the electron will cause a nuclear reaction when it penetrates the nucleus. I don't remember seeing any cross sections of this

Re: [Vo]:electron orbital speed

2014-05-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 28 May 2014 15:22:28 -0400: Hi, [snip] More http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_capture This is a special sort of radioactive decay mode when there is an large imbalance of protons and neutrons in the nucleus. In this case, a gamma from a secondary

Re: [Vo]:BlackLight's Second Test of Automated Ignition System

2014-05-28 Thread Foks0904 .
I've never thought Mills is running a confidence game. But I've been critical of BLP because it's perplexing as hell why they have had such issues getting into the public marketplace for over twenty years. They have had issues with patent office in past, etc. but I don't know how far railroading