[Vo]:The case for magnetism

2014-07-28 Thread Axil Axil
http://phys.org/news/2014-07-physicists-nature-high-temperature-superconductivity.html Physicists unlock nature of high-temperature superconductivity It's magnetism that eliminates the coulomb barrier that allows electrons to stick together and form cooper pairs found in superconductivity. This

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: spectroscopy at Harvard CfA showed evidence (and several possible > artifacts) of continuum radiation in the 10-30 nm range from low-energy ... > There is a further lack of clarity as to the employer of the spectropists. Were they GEN3 subcontractors with no affiliation to Harvard CfA w

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Mike Carrell wrote: That light was observed at BLP and confirmed at the Harvard-Smithsonian > Center for Astrophysics. I've always been a little uncomfortable with the way the testing done on behalf of BLP at Harvard-Smithsonian CfA is characterized. After hea

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Mike Carrell wrote: Arc welders commonly flood t ears wit argon, a cheap inert gas, to avoid > oxidation of the metal before it cools. Ionized argon has served as a > catalyst in earlier gas phase experiments, but it plays no part in the > SunCell. > Sounds a lo

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jojo Iznart
BTW, let me just say this and this will be the last I will say on this subject. Many people are late bloomers. I know someone who was failing his classes in one semester then went on to become the first honor student the next. And no, he did not cheat. His teachers were so amazed. His mom co

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jojo Iznart wrote: Whatever you say my friend. > No, it is not whatever I say. It is what every history book and authoritative source says. This is not about me. > I'm not inclined to start an argument with you. > You are not inclined to do your homework, or to look up readily available f

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jojo Iznart
Whatever you say my friend. I'm not inclined to start an argument with you. Jojo - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner? I did not notice this. Jojo Izn

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
I did not notice this. Jojo Iznart wrote: But didn't Edison have an incredibly lousy history before he perfected his > lightbulb? > > Didn'tt Einstein fail high school algebra before he created the > beautifully elegant language of Relativity mathematics? > No, he did not fail high school alge

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 5:54 AM, Jojo Iznart wrote: > But didn't Edison have an incredibly lousy history before he perfected > his lightbulb? > ***Not at all. He had several successful inventions under his belt by that time. > > Didn'tt Einstein fail high school algebra before he created the

RE: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
>From Jed: ... > I judge the demo useless, as far as I could tell. I could barely hear > what the people in the video said. Maybe if I could have heard it I > would have found it more convincing. Slides would have helped, too. Mills heard similar complaints from other observers, and t

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jojo Iznart
I believe the validators have already done that and have concluded that the energy output can not be explain chemically or any other way other than the hydrino. They have come out very strongly for Mills. Though I do not have a horse in this race, I still find GUTCP and the hydrino concept mor

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread ChemE Stewart
http://youtu.be/P5VdbabPbvU I love these videos... On Monday, July 28, 2014, Jojo Iznart wrote: > yea, there's oxygen from H20, but isn't the real question be "how much?" > > Maybe you can do the math and compute the amount of oxygen and then > estimate the amount of titanium and then add 2 an

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Axil Axil
To find where the Sun Cell power is coming from, experimental procedure as follows: Test the power of the electric arch only, Then, add the TiCl2 and measure the power output. Then add water is small steps and measure the associated power output increase. On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Joj

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jojo Iznart
yea, there's oxygen from H20, but isn't the real question be "how much?" Maybe you can do the math and compute the amount of oxygen and then estimate the amount of titanium and then add 2 and 2 together and figure out if there is enough chemical energy to explain the huge explosion. For that ma

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Axil Axil
*Mills remarked that there is no oxygen available.* In the 20,000C plasma blast, the water will decompose into h2 and O. SO there is oxygen. On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mike Carrell wrote: > > Optical instruments to quantitatively measure the radiant energy are >> s

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jojo Iznart
For the simple reason that even if you assumed that the titanium powder was oxidized chemically, it would still not account for the energy. It was clear that titanium was not being oxidized; else you are left with the conundrum on why it is not being consumed or why it would oxidize so readily

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell wrote: Jed resumes his traditional role as a skeptic, as he has been these many > years. > No, I was only critiquing this as a demonstration. I think it failed in that role. It failed for the general public. For insiders it might have been optimum. I cannot judge. The composition

RE: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Mike Carrell
Jed resumes his traditional role as a skeptic, as he has been these many years. The composition of the fuel powder is stated openly in papers on the website. One just has to read carefully and in the context of all Mills’ has written about GUTCP, which unfortunately is not CMNS or LENR [try usin

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell wrote: Optical instruments to quantitatively measure the radiant energy are > standard lab equipment and can be calibrated to NIST standards. > This is a bomb calorimeter. I do not think it incorporates optical instruments. (A schematic of the calorimeter would have helped.) Plus, e

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jojo Iznart
1. I agree, 5J input should be completely charaterized and documented. Mills talked about IGBT power supplies in the upcoming prototype. These advanced power supplies should help answer this question. 2. I don't agree with your analysis of the Bomb Calorimetry. Larger conductors if any s

Re: [Vo]:New spongelike structure converts solar energy into steam

2014-07-28 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Ken, Sounds like an improvement upon the former since the spongelike geometry syphons water toward the surface but since the graphite is “floating” I assume it turns to steam before the liquid water has a chance to conduct too much heat down below the surface and stop the steam production. It

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Axil Axil
Speculation about titanium is a distraction, for it is not involved in the chemistry of the SunCell. How So? Can you expand on this point? On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Mike Carrell wrote: > Optical instruments to quantitatively measure the radiant energy are > standard lab equipment and c

RE: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Mike Carrell
Optical instruments to quantitatively measure the radiant energy are standard lab equipment and can be calibrated to NIST standards. Speculation about titanium is a distraction, for it is not involved in the chemistry of the SunCell. Mike Carrell From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail

Re: [Vo]:New spongelike structure converts solar energy into steam

2014-07-28 Thread Ken Deboer
I wonder is this the same phenonomena as that described by Halas's group at Rice Univ a couple years back?. They simply focused sunlight onto carbon black in water and saw water boiling directly off at apparently low temp. I briefly reproduced her experiment by a fresnel lens focused on a little

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Another thing that would have helped would be to trigger a chemical explosion with a known amount of explosive, to calibrate. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jojo Iznart wrote: I blamed Mills for revealing too much in his demos, now you are asking him > to reveal more secrets. I don't think that's wise. > Well, if he cannot reveal the chemical contents of the explosion, there is no point to doing it. It cannot be convincing without that information

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jojo Iznart
I hope you're right. It is in my interest to see the Suncell fail. Jojo - Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner? Jojo, A lot depends upon how accuratel

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Axil Axil
After the arc discharge, the TiC2 will be completely vaporized. But in microseconds, titanium nanoparticles will condense out of the plasma when the plasma temperature falls below the boiling point of titanium. There will be a timeframe when titanium will be a solid and chlorine will be a gas at a

RE: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Higgins Their calorimetry appears to be flawed. They have apparently modified the calorimeter to bring in huge current carrying conductors, and everyone knows that what carries current well also transports heat well… Good point Bob, and good post. There is almost no real

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Axil Axil
A huge amount of RF radiation should be produced by the NMR active isotopes of chlorine. Chlorine has only non zero nuclear magnetic monuments in its two isotopes. Mills could capture a large amount of electric power by converting RF to electricity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectenna Like al

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread David Roberson
Jojo, A lot depends upon how accurately the input energy can be determined. It would surprise me to find that the welder has precise control upon the current and voltage waveforms at that level and time frame. These types of devices are not instrument quality and control of the leakage fields

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Axil Axil
LENR will always occur in a nanoparticle environment when pumped by an electric discharge. This is witnessed by many experiments involving exploding foils comprised of various types of metals. On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Bob Higgins wrote: > First, the fact that the same output could be o

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Bob Higgins
First, the fact that the same output could be obtained with a 5J input is completely undocumented - it is just thrown out there and without presented demonstration or experimental data - the comment is worthless. Their calorimetry appears to be flawed. They have apparently modified the calorimete

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Axil Axil
The Sun Cell has all the indicators of a LENR system: arc discharge, nanoparticles, and EMF output. Rather than infrared output as seen in the NiH system, the output is at high frequencies in the blue/green color spectrum. Argon is a puzzle to me. The NiH system should work with argon as a gas but

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jojo Iznart
I blamed Mills for revealing too much in his demos, now you are asking him to reveal more secrets. I don't think that's wise. If he will have any commercial success at all, he must learn how to keep his secrets a little better. We as outside observers will have to be content with what Mills r

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jojo Iznart
If I remember correctly, it is about 2/3 to 3/4 of the way on video 1. A guy named Jim??? did the bomb calorimetry and he showed the output graph of the temp rise which he calculated to be around 623+ J. Randy then explain that the input power was around 200+ J because the fuel was enclosed in

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
>Mills should have spent 5 or 10 minutes introducing the experiment and listing all of the materials and the potential chemical energy from various ways of reacting them. That is what McKubre did in his first book about cold >fusion, as I described here on p. 12: He does have validators saying tha

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > What do you mean failure? Commercial failures? No, his inventions nearly > always made money. If you mean he went through several potential designs > for the lightbulb . . . > He also had some epic demonstration failures in 1878 and '79, when investors visited his house to see the lig

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jojo Iznart wrote: Point is, he had a long string of failures before his successes. But feel > free to disagree with me. I won't hold it against you. > What do you mean failure? Commercial failures? No, his inventions nearly always made money. If you mean he went through several potential des

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jojo Iznart wrote: > Well, the input is 5v x 10,000A or 5J for the short duration. > > Why is there a question that the explosion can achieve a high COP. In > this case, it appears to be >100. > > I am not sure where the controversy is. COP appears to be clearly > overunity. > Most explosions

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jojo Iznart
Point is, he had a long string of failures before his successes. But feel free to disagree with me. I won't hold it against you. Jojo - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a t

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jojo Iznart wrote: But didn't Edison have an incredibly lousy history before he perfected his > lightbulb? > No, he had a fabulous history. He was one of the successful and celebrated inventors in history by 1879, with breakthroughs in telegraphy, the phonograph and electricity. He often infuri

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread James Bowery
Where, in the most recent demo video, is the calorimetry? On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Jojo Iznart wrote: > But didn't Edison have an incredibly lousy history before he perfected > his lightbulb? > > Didn'tt Einstein fail high school algebra before he created the > beautifully elegant lang

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread Jojo Iznart
But didn't Edison have an incredibly lousy history before he perfected his lightbulb? Didn'tt Einstein fail high school algebra before he created the beautifully elegant language of Relativity mathematics? PERIOD. Don't get me wrong, I want Mills to fail. That would give my wave-powered po

RE: [Vo]:Personal observataions about the part two BLP July 21 video

2014-07-28 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
I get it that there is plenty doubt about Mills' current claims due to his prior track record. Personally, I find Mills often coming off as arrogant, particularly in his terse responses to posts in the yahoo [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] group. He is no friend of LENR research either, that is b

[Vo]:Re: Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-28 Thread pjvannoorden
Kevin The remark you placed is not fair against R.Mills (If you place your bet on Miills, you put it on someone with an incredibly lousy history. Period). Please read my argumentation: >From the beginning R.Mills knew that fractional quantum states of hydrogen >were possible. His theory

Re: [Vo]:new paper atpublished on Ego Out

2014-07-28 Thread ChemE Stewart
You forgot pulse repetition factor and pulse duration in the case where you want to transmit high power levels and induce strong, quickly changing electromagnetic fields, but not cook people or maybe melt your powder (immediately) On Sunday, July 27, 2014, Axil Axil wrote: > Let's get right down