Roger-
I agree with your timely addition regarding “science” excluding different
thinking. I would note that Hagelstein’s editorial cited below uses the term
“science community” instead of your term “science” to designate the social
entity which excludes different thinking.
The following
A follow-up posting by me:
Cold fusion is not unique. There are many, many examples of previous claims
that were rejected even though the proof was rock solid, and there was no
reason to doubt the claims. Lasers, the MRI and h. pylori are good
examples. I have studied much of this history,
Jed, I have never stated nor thought that everything Rossi has said or done
should be accepted without question. So you are making that up.
I think there is significant evidence that some of his E-Cats worked &
suggested several times it would be better to wait and see than dismiss
Robin,
I guess I do not understand how many far away objects would get information
about the conversion that takes place. If the mass equivalent remains the same
and its center also is conserved then what is different? Of course the photons
would interact differently than the two particles
Speaking of Mills - have you guys seen this Cold Fusion Now -produced
documentary "Anomalous Effects in Deuterated Systems Melvin Miles The
Correlation of Excess Heat and Helium" - the link is at
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KM82RW7_II4
Also, maybe you'd find this Edmund Storms documentary (also
In reply to Dave Roberson's message of Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:17:02 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>I realize that mass and energy are two different forms of existence, but
>should we expect the remainder of the universe to know this has happened other
>than by the interactions between the two objects before
Adrian Ashfield wrote:
Jed, I find your comment rather ironic considering your dismissal of
> everything that Rossi has done.
You imply that I must accept all new claims without question. That would be
as irrational as rejecting all of them out of hand.
You imply that
Philippe,
If you choose a frame of reference that is stationary to the center of mass of
the two particles, which is at rest relative to them, then there can be very
little motion associated with the two. When the conversion to energy takes
place two photons are released exactly in opposite
Dave,
This is absolutely true and not challenged at all.
My point is not that one ,it is about physical modification of mass into energy
.Mathematically mass and energy are related through Einstein's equation
.Nevertheless
mass is physically different from energy .Also the speed of the two
Is it not true that the mass is conserved when an electron and positron combine
and two photons emerge? The total mass-energy is the same.
Dave
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From: Philippe Hatt
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 6:09 AM
To: Jürg Wyttenbach
Cc: bobcook39...@hotmail.com;
So far so good, said the man after jumping off the top of a skyscraper.
Why do you suppose Rossi is building a factory?
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From: Brian Ahern
To: vortex-l
Sent: Thu, Jan 25, 2018 7:25 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Science does
Dismissal is to kind a word. Rossi should ave been prosecuted.
How did that October demo go?
I think my 31st Rossi prediction held.
I am 31 - 0 since 2009.
From: Adrian Ashfield
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 6:10 PM
To:
>There are countless examples of "science" excluding different thinking. This
>is what prompted Max Planck to write that progress in science occurs "funeral
>by funeral." He explained: “A new scientific truth does not triumph by
>convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but
Dear Jürg,
Thank you for your answer.
On antimass :I fully agree with what you say .For me antimass is not negative
mass ,but positive mass leaving our space time and creating as a consequence a
hole of mass .This is what happens
between electron and positron when collapsing to yield two
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