In recent mainstream news the agreement between China and the USA were
highlighted:
For example,
In Climate Deal With China, Obama May Set 2016 Theme.
When will we see such a headline over a deal with China regarding LENR RD
to help execute the current deal?
Maybe it will be by December,
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/
Just hit the Drudgereport. Obviously, many remarks may be taken out of context
but it looks to be an embarassment for many Global warming scientists.
I would
Thomas Malloy wrote:
We conservatives question Liberal Orthodoxy, of which Scientific
Orthodoxy is an example. You've heard of Parksie's antics. Jed and Ed
agree with me on this when ox, LENR, is being gored.
Comparing AGW with cold fusion is rather different. With LENR-CANR the
majority of
Howdy Thomas,
I read where Sirius netwrks was paying Martha Stewart and Howard Stern
under a $ 500 million contract. Now Sirius radio is taking a bankruptcy. Not
to worry, Rush Limbaugh's contract wwith clear channel is only 200 million
and clear channel is down to advertizing gold mines
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 9:07 AM, R C Macaulay walha...@cvctx.com wrote:
Not to worry, with the batch of what we got brewing behind the outhouse in
the woods, won't nobody care who says what when they git a dipper full.
And exactly where does the water come from?
Hi Thomas,
Sunday's service
I believe in Intelligent Design.
Consider the possibility that ID has done a fantastic job of designing
Evolution in such an unfathomable way that we have only just begun to
scratch the Cosmic Wisdom behind its purpose.
Unfortunately, as we learn more about what
- Original Message -
From: OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:30 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate Change
Hi Thomas,
Sunday's service
I believe in Intelligent Design.
Consider the possibility that ID has done a fantastic job of designing
On Feb 15, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:
- Original Message -
From: OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:30 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate Change
Hi Thomas,
Sunday's service
I believe in Intelligent Design.
Consider the possibility
- Original Message -
From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate Change
On Feb 15, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:- Original Message - From: OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com Date: Sunday
Harry sez:
In the Beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people
very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. -- Douglas Adams
Without a doubt this is my most favorite quote from atheist, D. Adams.
Who sez G-d doesn't have a sense of humor.
Regards
Steven
Howdy Steven,
Yea! Ole Darwin must have cringed to discover he had to use the Bible for
technical references and time lines.
Richard
Harry sez:
In the Beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people
very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. -- Douglas Adams
Harry Veeder wrote:
From: OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
Hi Thomas,
Sunday's service
I believe in Intelligent Design.
I'm curious Steven,who IYHO did the designing. What do you mean by
Sunday's service
Harry wrote;
It is necessary to dumb it down if you believe in a
From Thomas:
I'm curious Steven,who IYHO did the designing. What do you mean by Sunday's
service
All of us.
On another topic:
BTW: TNSTAAFL: Please translate.
There is no such thing as a free lunch
Thanks for the clarification, Thomas.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
- Original Message -
From: thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009 10:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate Change
Harry Veeder wrote:
From: OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
Hi Thomas,
Sunday's service
I believe in Intelligent Design
- Original Message -
From: OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009 10:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate Change
All of us.
On another topic:
BTW: TNSTAAFL: Please translate.
There is no such thing as a free lunch
Thanks for the clarification
- Original Message -
From: OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009 7:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate Change
Harry sez:
In the Beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot
of people
very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move
Nick Palmer wrote:
Thomas sent me notification of this show but I do live on the other
side of
I'm pleased that you got a sample of our talk radio. I'm disappointed
with your reaction to it. BTW, I read Vicky Pope's article, then I wrote
a letter to Dr. Pope and Dennis Prager to see if we
Thomas sent me notification of this show but I do live on the other side of
the Atlantic timewise so it was not really possible for me to contribute to
an
American talk show (even if I thought it would be a good idea). I listened
to
the (Dennis Prager) show afterwards via streaming media and
Hi Mike, Nick,
Interesting commentaries.
Opinions (like beliefs) are only as good as how well they serve the
beholder. Problems occur when end up identifying our sense of self
with the opinions we hold.
When we end up identifying our sense of self with an opinion, we have
succumbed to serving
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/feb/11/climate-change-misleading-claims
This article gives a very balanced view which highlights the problems of
exaggeration and poor media reporting on the general appearance of the
topic. It makes clear that AGW sceptics (like Prager and Bastardi)
Vortexians;
Joe Bistardi, Chief of Long Range Forecasting at accuweather.com was
just interviewed on the Dennis Prager Show. He doesn't believe in Global
Warming. As I recall, he believes that the earth is cooling. Of course
Climate Change covers that. He rejects Algore's anthropogenic
- Original Message -
From: thomas malloy temal...@usfamily.net
---MC:
A cover story in Scientific American a while back asserted the following:
Studies of ice cores from several sources show that the CO2 levels have
cyclic fluctuation over a very long period of time,
-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:28 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore
Please provide an example how a nation with veto power on the security
council
In reply to Jeff Fink's message of Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:45:08 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Since its inception, the UNhas been relatively ineffective and harmless
because whenever they really try to do something it gets vetoed by somebody.
If the leadership could institute policies unopposed then things
, January 28, 2008 9:31 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore
The UN security council needs to be reformed for starters.
Harry
On 28/1/2008 6:06 PM, Lawrence de Bivort wrote:
Agreed, Jed.
We are, as a species, entering an age
could
escape a tyrannical government by fleeing to another land. Where will we go
now?
Jeff
-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:42 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al
Howdy Jeff,
It is difficult to convey such a thought to a generation that has had a
constant barrage of teaching from Miss Pollyana Doogood. Miss Doogood has
been trying to explain that the world is run on the level, there is no such
thing as evil, and anyone that don't believe it are not
Lawrence de Bivort wrote:
I understand there are considerable sweet water aquifers under large
portions of the Sahara.
There are aquifers, but they are being rapidly depleted and
destroyed. There is no chance they can be used to reconvert the
man-made parts of the desert back into verdant
Message-
From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:42 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore
No veto as Robin said,
and more permanent members.
Harry
On 28/1/2008 10:17 PM, Lawrence de
It is more like a feeling than a thought.
harry
On 29/1/2008 12:38 PM, R.C.Macaulay wrote:
Howdy Jeff,
It is difficult to convey such a thought to a generation that has had a
constant barrage of teaching from Miss Pollyana Doogood. Miss Doogood has
been trying to explain that the world
i think his point is that the aquifers are natural filters, and that rising
watertables from ocean flooding would be filtered through them. this is
partially true, but it would filter slowly, and you would still end up with
salty marshland, likely.
On 1/29/08, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thats basically it. it depends on if the death and disease and destruction
that will be caused is worth it.
(if you ask me, i get less people in the world, and beach front property
here in az. WIN WIN. )
On 1/28/08, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 28/1/2008 8:28 AM, Jeff Fink wrote:
On 28/1/2008 8:28 AM, Jeff Fink wrote:
Edmund Storms wrote:
It's the attempt to solve a problem that is important.
An ill conceived solution will make matters. Let us not waste resources on
crazy solutions, but use them to adapt if necessary. We cannot save
civilization by
On 28/1/2008 8:28 AM, Jeff Fink wrote:
Edmund Storms wrote:
It's the attempt to solve a problem that is important.
An ill conceived solution will make matters. Let us not waste resources on
crazy solutions, but use them to adapt if necessary. We cannot save
civilization by
Ed Storms wrote on 1-28-08:
Some problems have no solution. That is not the
issue. It's the attempt to solve a problem that is
important. Finding a substitute for oil, for example,
may not impact the climate much but it will have many
other benefits ...
Jack Smith writes:
It is critical that
, January 28, 2008 5:53 PM
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore
R.C.Macaulay wrote:
At some point in time it becomes necessary to recognize some
problems have no solution tasks and simply turn your head in a
stance of inevitiability. Al
R.C.Macaulay wrote:
At some point in time it becomes necessary to recognize some
problems have no solution tasks and simply turn your head in a
stance of inevitiability. Al Gore has profited by profiling global
warming and Bono the same with Africa but neither have a solution.
Africa is
for ourselves.
Cheers,
Lawrence
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:53 PM
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore
R.C.Macaulay wrote:
At some point
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:31:10 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
The UN security council needs to be reformed for starters.
Harry
[snip]
I agree - the right of veto should be removed altogether.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
The shrub is a plant.
Interesting. How is it inadequate now? How do you think it should be
reformed?
Lawrence
-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:31 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al
On 1/28/08, *Harry Veeder* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 28/1/2008 8:28 AM, Jeff Fink wrote:
I saw a science show on Saturday that said global warming will
cause the sahara to get green again, and then they called that a
bad thing! How can that be
I understand there are considerable sweet water aquifers under large
portions of the Sahara.
Lawrence
-Original Message-
From: thomas malloy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:55 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse
Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore by Staff Writers
Davos, Switzerland (AFP) Jan 24, 2008
Climate change is occurring far faster than even the worst predictions of
the UN's Nobel Prize-winning scientific panel on climate change foresaw, Al
Gore warned Thursday.
New
Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al GoreHarry Veeder quotes..
Al Gore
The brunt of this climate crisis is going to be felt in the developing
world. All your work... will be undone if you don't focus on this, Bono
said.
It is clear that those people who have least created
sigh
On Jan 27, 2008 12:25 PM, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore by Staff Writers
Davos, Switzerland (AFP) Jan 24, 2008
Climate change is occurring far faster than even the worst predictions of
the UN's Nobel Prize-winning
R.C.Macaulay wrote:
Harry Veeder quotes.. Al Gore
The brunt of this climate crisis is going to be felt in the developing
world. All your work... will be undone if you don't focus on this, Bono
said.
It is clear that those people who have least created this climate
crisis...
are the
In reply to R.C.Macaulay's message of Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:16:24 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
The biggest problem in the world is jealousy, vanity, lust and greed. Add
drugs to this equation and witness a decay in civilized society.
An attorney friend remarked tha he no longer knew what justice is as a
Ed Storms wrote,
The response to this deterioration is to apply more force and power.
Make people behave rather than give them the freedom and reason to
behave. If you want to find the reason for the decay, you might consider
this one.
Meanwhile the basic beliefs behind the
religious
Vortexians;
In case you missed it, this man was just interviewed on C to C AM,
http://www.nrsp.com/people-timothy-ball.html , he is a climate scientist
who contends that what we are seeing is the result of a natural cycle. I
have previously mentioned the book, Unstoppable Climate Change by
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