[Vo]:Control Mechanism

2011-11-09 Thread Jeff Sutton
Hello. I have been following Rossi and the posts since the beginning and am very fascinated. Rather than a fraud, I believe Rossi is on to something incrementally better than those that came before. He has more success starting the reaction, however I think he has little control over it once

Re: [Vo]:Control Mechanism

2011-11-09 Thread David Roberson
From: Jeff Sutton jsutton.sudb...@gmail.com Hello. I have been following Rossi and the posts since the beginning and am very fascinated. Rather than a fraud, I believe Rossi is on to something incrementally better than those that came before. He has more success starting the reaction,

Re: [Vo]:Control Mechanism

2011-11-09 Thread Jeff Sutton
The self sustaining mode as demonstrated basically is just a quasi exponentially damped energy source that cools down at its internally determined rate. It must be reheated to operational temperature. He once talked of using a duty cycle of power input followed by zero power input to keep it

Re: [Vo]:Control Mechanism

2011-11-09 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 11-11-09 11:21 AM, Jeff Sutton wrote: Hello. I have been following Rossi and the posts since the beginning and am very fascinated. Rather than a fraud, I believe Rossi is on to something incrementally better than those that came before. He has more success starting the reaction, however

Re: [Vo]:Control Mechanism

2011-11-09 Thread Axil Axil
*The Rossi reactor has evolved over time and these changes inform how Rossi controls his reactor.* * * *Initially, Rossi had an internal heater whose function it was to produce exotic forms of hydrogen.* * * *It is these little known hydrogen assemblages that make the Rossi reactor work.* * *

Re: [Vo]:Control Mechanism

2011-11-09 Thread Jeff Sutton
Good points. But then what is the control mechanism that does this? Surely not the water flow rate as that is typically constant, nor the heating element (especially with self-sustaining mode). Were there any other control boxes or wires that were never specified? Some mysterious frequency

Re: [Vo]:Control Mechanism

2011-11-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jeff Sutton jsutton.sudb...@gmail.com wrote: He has shown it in self-sustaining mode but always shuts it down after a few hours with some excuse. Why does he do that when the blockbuster note would be the ecat just keeps on going. I suggest this must mean that the ecat cannot just keep on

Re: [Vo]:Control Mechanism

2011-11-09 Thread Jeff Sutton
You make some good points and we know that there are neat and as yet unknown processes at play. wrt *In detail, the area around and very close to the internal heater produces hydrogen plasma. * Great but why doesn't the heat produced by the reaction itself form more plasma? You are treating one

Re: [Vo]:Control Mechanism

2011-11-09 Thread Jeff Sutton
Agreed regarding self-sustaining time and there is something in the reactor that needs to be reset. I suggest however, that simply adding heat again cannot be it as that is saying one type of heat is different from the other. Is the heater a DC device or AC with some important frequency? On

Re: [Vo]:Control Mechanism

2011-11-09 Thread Axil Axil
*Great but why doesn't the heat produced by the reaction itself form more plasma? You are treating one heat different from the other, unless there is some geometry involved?* * * *Geometry is involved.* * * *I have always assumed that there is a space between the powder and the heater where

Re: [Vo]:Control Mechanism

2011-11-09 Thread Axil Axil
*If memory serves, someone on vortex saw that the internal heater was pulsed from looking at a movie of a scope either in the first or a very early demo.* * * *I would think that an alternating plasma would increase the production of Rydberg matter since RM condenses out of the plasma as the

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Control Mechanism

2011-11-09 Thread Roarty, Francis X
of the Black Light powders and be done. Fran From: Jeff Sutton [mailto:jsutton.sudb...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 1:54 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Control Mechanism Agreed regarding self-sustaining time and there is something in the reactor that needs

RE: [Vo]:Control Mechanism

2011-11-09 Thread jean guy moreau
Heat a secondary effect ? Could the heater be a coil fed with sawtooth pulses to create collapsing magnetic fields that somehow promote the reactions ? QM wonderland ;) Non physicist speculation here... JG Moreau Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 14:29:56 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Control

Re: [Vo]:Control Mechanism

2011-11-09 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Rossi has said that each of the 107 E-Cat reactor boxes in the 1 MW demo had a individual control system. Running in self sustain mode, with the heater not being activated, the only other wires going into the reactor box are those called RF as per the attachment. One would then assume these

Re: [Vo]:Control Mechanism

2011-11-09 Thread Jeff Sutton
Thank you and nice thoughts regarding control/gain. I had missed the RF wires. On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: Rossi has said that each of the 107 E-Cat reactor boxes in the 1 MW demo had a individual control system. Running in self sustain