At 08:20 AM 10/8/2014, Alan Fletcher wrote:
Releasing the report during Nobel week means that all the
scientific journalists will be busy on that and/or won't have space
for it (print versions).
Still no media mention -- not even NyTeknik. So it can't go in the
wiki article yet. (Also, as a
NyTeknik just make an article about the Boss of Elforsk who play the
cautious man, but say he will launche a research effor on that subject with
partners...
http://www.nyteknik.se/asikter/debatt/article3854541.ece
david made a translation
Greetings Vortex-L,
Just saw thishave not evaluated it:
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/10/08/e-cat-report-leaked/
Ad Astra,
Ron Kita, Chiralex
Doylestown PA
A very positive test.
Craig
On 10/08/2014 08:24 AM, Ron Kita wrote:
Greetings Vortex-L,
Just saw thishave not evaluated it:
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/10/08/e-cat-report-leaked/
Ad Astra,
Ron Kita, Chiralex
Doylestown PA
It's here! And it's positive! I suppose not too shocking to any of us here.
COP looks very healthy and somewhere in between French's magic numbers and
Jones'/Brian Ahern's speculations. Also looks like the ash changed
significantly indicating some kind of novel nuclear reaction, as indicated
by
Also wasn't this supposed to have been carried out by others beside Levi,
Essen, and company? I don't see any new names here. Not that it matters to
me, but won't we just hear the same bullshit objections that it's a inside
job?
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote:
It's an impressive result, despite running it in a way to make measurement
convenient and to minimize the likelihood of damaging the device. They ran
the power at a constant rate rather than allowing for self-sustained
periods. The COP was 3.13 to 3.74 depending on the power input level.
Given
Levi, Essen, and company have made the chalorimetry, look down in the
paper, there are more reports made by other people.
On Wed, 8 Oct 2014
09:34:19 -0400, Foks0904 . wrote:
Also wasn't this supposed to have
been carried out by others beside Levi, Essen, and company? I don't see
any new
Aha. Thanks torulf.
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 9:43 AM, torulf.gr...@bredband.net wrote:
Levi, Essen, and company have made the chalorimetry, look down in the
paper, there are more reports made by other people.
On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 09:34:19 -0400, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com
wrote:
Also
This was not leaked. Essen gave a copy to someone who uploaded it with
permission. (I think it was Mats Lewan.) This has been submitted to arXiv
but it has been delayed for unknown reasons.
- Jed
not 6 month... the longitudinal hair cutters will say Rossi lied !
moreover it was done by LEVI, and others accomplice... thus since Levi have
seen an E-cat test work, and have not said it is a fraud (a sure fact), you
know that he is himself part of the fraud, and thus his report have no
Yeah exactly...that's going to be the pseudo-skeptical talking-point that
get's hammered home till we all want to puke.
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
not 6 month... the longitudinal hair cutters will say Rossi lied !
moreover it was done by LEVI,
Although LENR supporters will be impressed at first glance, the biggest
problems – already being mentioned - and they could be fatal to wider
acceptance, are that Levi remains the lead author and the lack of reliable
calorimetry, and the strange isotope shifts. Look at these ! Bizarre and
*This is probably not going to be the instant bombshell, or extremely
well-prepared announcement from truly independent scientists that we had
hoped for.*
Agreed. I don't think any of us should be pinning all our hopes on this
overturning establishment beliefs, but I think it's a rather
The report cites the fuel as a combination of LiAlH4 and Ni + Fe. It
appears the Ni is treated with an Fe catalyst as I surmised - this is the
powder I have been working with. The LiAlH4 means that Rossi is using a
hydride supplying only H2 and not D.
Bob Higgins
What does that indicate about the reaction to you Bob?
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
The report cites the fuel as a combination of LiAlH4 and Ni + Fe. It
appears the Ni is treated with an Fe catalyst as I surmised - this is the
powder I have
From: Foks0904
This is probably not going to be the instant bombshell, or
extremely well-prepared announcement from truly independent scientists that
we had hoped for.
Agreed. I don't think any of us should be pinning all our
hopes
My opinion is that it will matter to the people who can do something with
the information. It will matter to people with money to fund research and
companies who don't live in ivory towers. It will matter to potential
industrial customers of IH.
In the end, I think Rossi will be proven correct
Correction and addition. We seem to going from Ni58 all the way to Ni62,
much of the time without the orderly progression 58-59-60-61-62.
As for “hopping”… guess who is on the case:
https://inis.iaea.org/search/search.aspx?orig_q=RN:27064120
On the possibility of neutron hopping in crystals
Mats Lewan via eCat world : The report has been uploaded to Arxiv.org which,
however
has put it on hold, without specifying any motive for this. It has
also been sent to Journal of Physics D. I got the report sent to me
by Hanno Essén who said that he now considers it to be public,
although not
Jones -- I've been in contact on-and-off with Peter H. since last
October, but he's a very busy man with his teaching duties, etc. and I try
not to bother him too much. But I agree he is on my short-list no doubt and
will get a hold of him sooner than later.
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Jones
There a few things I noticed in this. First is that Rossi's powder appears
to be less actively thermochemically processed than what I have first used
- I.E it seems more lightly thermochemically processed.
The second observation is that the reactor is not very clean. There
appears to be no
Interesting, thanks.
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
There a few things I noticed in this. First is that Rossi's powder
appears to be less actively thermochemically processed than what I have
first used - I.E it seems more lightly thermochemically
Of further interest
https://archive.org/stream/TheLithiumAnomalyAndThe7li3he4he6liNeutronTransfe
rReaction/Lithium_Anomaly_2_djvu.txt
A thesis on “the lithium anomaly”
Correction and addition. We seem to going from Ni58
Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote:
So it appears that the air and water are not poisons for the reaction.
That is very surprising if true. Shocking!
- Jed
Releasing the report during Nobel week means that all the
scientific journalists will be busy on that and/or won't have space
for it (print versions).
The Lithium shift is interesting and doesn't seem to be by design :
it's purpose is just to supply the hydrogen, but it's obviously being
the four neutron absorption remind be the 2,4 or 6 deuteron absorbed in
Iwamura, as Ed Storms spotted.
It is coherent with a symmetric reaction involving either 2/4/6 neutrons,
or 2/4/6 hydrogen atoms .
since there is no thermal neutron observed, there is no neutron involved in
high quantity, or
indeed.
to be honest AFAIK they don't need that report to know it.
however it can help them not to be ridiculed and fired.
2014-10-08 16:40 GMT+02:00 Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com:
My opinion is that it will matter to the people who can do something with
the information. It will matter to
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Unfortunately there are some nuclear proliferation issues involved.
In what way
?
Harry
*the four neutron absorption remind be the 2,4 or 6 deuteron absorbed in
Iwamura, as Ed Storms spotted.*
*It is coherent with a symmetric reaction involving either 2/4/6 neutrons,
or 2/4/6 hydrogen atoms .*
Yeah absolutely. Ed is one of the few who consistently highlighted this
nugget as
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
This was not leaked. Essen gave a copy to someone who uploaded it with
permission. (I think it was Mats Lewan.) This has been submitted to arXiv
but it has been delayed for unknown reasons.
Physics has fallen into a low
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
The report cites the fuel as a combination of LiAlH4 and Ni + Fe. It
appears the Ni is treated with an Fe catalyst as I surmised - this is the
powder I have been working with. The LiAlH4 means that Rossi is using a
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 8 Oct 2014 11:03:17 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote:
So it appears that the air and water are not poisons for the reaction.
That is very surprising if true. Shocking!
- Jed
The Oxygen from the air will combine with
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