On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:11 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
It has been suggested that it is not possible to obtain the rapid increase
in output power measured for the Rossi ECATs. The reason stated is that
the core would have to have its temperature multiplied by a factor of
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:39 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
OK Horace, You have supplied the information that is needed to answer the
questions.
By my reading of the graphs, they contradict your ideas. They show that a
step increase in the power input results in a very gradual
You misread the graph. Ask Horace to help you understand what it shows as he
has the program that answers your question. Direct any further inquires to
him. I am confident he can straighten your problem out.
A graph is worth many words Cude. It is clear that a large instantaneous fixed
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:59 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
You misread the graph. Ask Horace to help you understand what it shows as
he has the program that answers your question. Direct any further inquires
to him. I am confident he can straighten your problem out.
A graph
Joshua Cude has completed his proof that Rossi's own data from the 1
MW demo shows unavoidably that it is certain that no excess heat was
produced. Q.E.D.
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2shva=1#inbox/133e0a55a24df9e5
Joshua Cude
7:20 AM (56 minutes ago)
to vortex-l
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011
I find it strange that anyone would assume that a proof has been generated that
the power output does not show excess heat. I think you should read Mr. Cudes'
mailings as he suggests that the power output
could be anywhere between 70kW and 470kW. I think I recall him suggesting that
if it is
On 11-11-28 11:21 AM, Rich Murray wrote:
Joshua Cude has completed his proof that Rossi's own data from the 1
MW demo shows unavoidably that it is certain that no excess heat was
produced. Q.E.D.
Jeeze, Rich, if you're going to post things that boil down to We are
the chorus, and we
Maybe you do not understand my position in this question. I am not convinced
that there is a large power increase that you speak of. Horace has produced a
graph and a method that should be able to answer that question. If it is in
fact there, his technique should reveal it. Do you argue
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:46 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Maybe you do not understand my position in this question. I am not
convinced that there is a large power increase that you speak of.
Neither am I. But according to Rossi's claims in his report, there has to
be one. He
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:36 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I think I recall him suggesting that if it is in fact 470 kW, then that
is due to LENR energy release. I would assume that he will come back and
respond to your
statement in that manner.
You recall incorrectly.
But does it fit the possibility of 470 kW also?
-Original Message-
From: Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Nov 28, 2011 12:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Large Temperature Increase of Core Not Required for 6 to 1
Output Delta
On Mon, Nov 28,
It appears there is debate here similar to the historic philosophical
debate about how many angels can sit on the head of pin, when it is
not determined the size or nature of the pin and whether angels exist.
I am responding to this only to bring some clarity to what it is I am
doing
Hello Stephen A. Lawrence,
By any chance, do you as an older brother often find yourself in
friendly exasperation rebuking a younger brother for impetuous,
intemperate outbursts, not based on sober prudent consideration of
much detailed evidence? Anyway, I admit being charmed by your
rebukes.
I
It has been suggested that it is not possible to obtain the rapid increase in
output power measured for the Rossi ECATs. The reason stated is that the core
would have to have its temperature multiplied by a factor of 6 or so to deliver
the needed power. This belief is based upon a
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:11 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Horace, please take a small amount of your time to explain the effect
Horace hibernates this time of year. It might be a while before he
sees this. You might try sending a message to him directly:
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:11 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com
wrote:
Horace hibernates this time of year.
Speaking about hibernation, there could be a contest to make the best
caption for this image:
Am 26.11.2011 21:15, schrieb Mary Yugo:
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:11 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com
mailto:dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Horace hibernates this time of year.
Speaking
Horace, I have suggested that your FEA program would be able to demonstrate the
time domain operation of the scam ECATs. I assumed that you have device
temperature as a function of x,y,z and t so that we can observe the expected
operation of the ECATs. Could you confirm that this is true?
On Nov 26, 2011, at 7:11 AM, David Roberson wrote:
It has been suggested that it is not possible to obtain the rapid
increase in output power measured for the Rossi ECATs. The reason
stated is that the core would have to have its temperature
multiplied by a factor of 6 or so to deliver
Dave,
I don't have time for this kind of discussion now. I am only about
half way through my E-cat analysis, so I see no point in discussing
that. Results will be available if and when I finish writing them.
I haven't even finished my photographic analysis.
It seems to me a waste of
Hi Horace,
Thanks for the information concerning your model. It helps to visualize the
time delay effects that have been difficult to get a handle upon. I notice
that the model has only one dimensional variable which is this case is X, but
we probably get a fairly good idea about the
OK Horace, You have supplied the information that is needed to answer the
questions.
Thanks,
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Nov 26, 2011 11:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Large Temperature Increase of Core Not
Here is a Run I did Nov. 6 that shows what can happen if water is
exposed directly the internal thermal storage without a damping
influence, like intervening insulation:
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Graph2Sa.png
This clearly shows things can get fairly spikey, depending on the
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