Re: [Vo]:October is here : Pordenone program

2012-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
Joseph Fine October 10th, 2012 at 2:58 PM Andrea Rossi, Does the power rating of a module (1 kW, 5 kW, 10 kW) affect the time of startup or shutdown? If smaller or lower power modules heat up faster than larger ones (or vice versa), it might be possible to ramp up or rampdown a startup or

Re: [Vo]:October is here : Pordenone program

2012-10-04 Thread Alan J Fletcher
What’s up with a new E-CAT Meeting Scheduled for Pordenone, Italy on Oct 12. http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=733cpage=7#comment-343916 Andrea Rossi October 2nd, 2012 at 3:17 PM Dear Steven N. Karels: Your question is inspiring: well, I will not go to Pordenone to clean the

Re: [Vo]:October is here : Pordenone program

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Gibbs
Alan, ( He,he,he,he…) ... I see you left out the next sentence ... Dear Steven N. Karels: Your question is inspiring: well, I will not go to Pordenone to clean the tops of the Dolomites with the wax: it is possible that in the Pordenione convention I will bring the final results regarding the

Re: [Vo]:October is here : Pordenone program

2012-10-04 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:33 PM 10/4/2012, Mark Gibbs wrote: The clean of the tops of the Dolomites with the wax and the he-he-ing seem unusually odd even for Rossi ... Does anyone know if the former is a bad translation of a colloquialism? I took it to mean skiing : (wiki) A tourist mecca, the Dolomites are famous

Re: [Vo]:October is here : Pordenone program

2012-10-04 Thread Patrick Ellul
Cleaning the top of the dolomites with wax is a metaphor for wasting time doing something useless On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: At 12:33 PM 10/4/2012, Mark Gibbs wrote: The clean of the tops of the Dolomites with the wax and the he-he-ing seem

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-03 Thread Alain Sepeda
yes, after collaboration with Kresenn, he is working with LENR Cars CTO (Antoine Guillemin) for a replication under Fleishmann Memorial open replication project... If it succeed in a replicable toy experiment, it can convince. I'm jusr afraid that it failed like Spawar replication kit... working

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-03 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-03 08:50, Alain Sepeda wrote: yes, after collaboration with Kresenn, he is working with LENR Cars CTO (Antoine Guillemin) for a replication under Fleishmann Memorial open replication project... Interesting; do you know more information or are you in contact with Guillemin or

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-03 Thread Alain Sepeda
all I have is from the video of discussion of N Chauvin with a student on you tube, and people commenting it. 2012/10/3 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com On 2012-10-03 08:50, Alain Sepeda wrote: yes, after collaboration with Kresenn, he is working with LENR Cars CTO (Antoine

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:57 AM 10/2/2012, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: It has now been one year since Rossi's big demonstration. Products were to come out at the end of last year, then in the Summer of 2012. Now its one year later and there is nothing. No products, no independent tests by a reputable group. I

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-03 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: e) There are multiple reports of NiH generating excess energy (So Rossi must be faking something real?) That's the point I was trying to make when I noted there have been many

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Time will tell. A lot of people are now working openly on NiH. Yup. I think Rossi deserves a lot of the credit for that. Not all of it. As far as I am concerned, Rossi has done no harm and plenty of good for this field. He is a rascal at times

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:49 PM 10/2/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 07:57 AM 10/2/2012, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: It has now been one year since Rossi's big demonstration. Products were to come out at the end of last year, then in the Summer of 2012. Now its one year later and there is nothing. No products,

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: b. Safety certification can be obtained with a nonfunctional product. Are you sure about that? I doubt it. Rossi has successfully created the appearance of being a con artist. Some of his defenders think that he is doing this deliberately,

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:20 PM 10/3/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: b. Safety certification can be obtained with a nonfunctional product. Are you sure about that? I doubt it. Safety certification is according to codes that cover design. I

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-03 Thread fznidarsic
Still, I also have some stainless steel yarn (12 micron wire, 2x275 strands) and it would be fun to use a nickel cathode with the stainless as an anode and see what it does to some LR-115 radiation detectors. I have done this with several solvents, potash, sodium hydroxide, and weak acid

[Vo]:October is here

2012-10-02 Thread fznidarsic
It has now been one year since Rossi's big demonstration. Products were to come out at the end of last year, then in the Summer of 2012. Now its one year later and there is nothing. No products, no independent tests by a reputable group. I predict that even Jed will give up within the

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Now its one year later and there is nothing. No products, no independent tests by a reputable group. On the other hand, we do have independent replications of Ni-H heat by Celani and others. I never expected products from Rossi. I predict that even Jed will

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
Well, those are replications of NiH, not of Rossi's device. 2012/10/2 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Now its one year later and there is nothing. No products, no independent tests by a reputable group. On the other hand, we do have independent replications

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-02 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Frank sez: ... I predict that even Jed will give up within the next five years. This, of course, is an incredibly open-ended proclamation to make. I have no idea what you are claiming Mr. Rothwell will give up on. It is never a wise course of action to predict the behavior of another

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-02 Thread James Bowery
True enough but the verification of the NiH system is, itself, a condition for the reality of the Rossi effect. So to be rational, people have to distinguish between the probability of the Rossi effect being real GIVEN THAT the NiH system is real, and the probability that the Rossi effect is real

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-02 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-02 16:57, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: its one year later and there is nothing. No products, no independent tests by a reputable group. Apparently [1], by hearsay [2], something along those lines should come out at around mid-October but I'm personally not expecting much, or that

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-02 Thread Alain Sepeda
Does anyone here have information on the two other evenst that Daniele Passerinit talk about : 1- Ugo Abundo team conference at IIS Pirelli on that 20th of October 2- and a very interesting, very high scientific value that seems leaked by MISTERI commentator...

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-02 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-02 18:34, Alain Sepeda wrote: Does anyone here have information on the two other evenst that Daniele Passerinit talk about : 1- Ugo Abundo team conference at IIS Pirelli on that 20th of October I think they will report in a more traditional manner on the latest developments on

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-02 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 07:57 AM 10/2/2012, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: It has now been one year since Rossi's big demonstration. Products were to come out at the end of last year, then in the Summer of 2012. Now its one year later and there is nothing. No products, no independent tests by a reputable group. From:

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: e) There are multiple reports of NiH generating excess energy (So Rossi must be faking something real?) That's the point I was trying to make when I noted there have been many other Ni-H reports. Rossi's claims seem similar to many others, especially

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-02 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-02 16:57, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: It has now been one year since Rossi's big demonstration. Products were to come out at the end of last year, then in the Summer of 2012. Now its one year later and there is nothing. No products, no independent tests by a reputable group. Just

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-02 Thread Jouni Valkonen
On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:08 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Rossi's claims seem similar to many others, especially Celani. The most worrisome thing is that indeed Celani's quantum reactor does resemble that of Rossi's, because he too refuses any independent confirmation or

Re: [Vo]:October is here

2012-10-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: The most worrisome thing is that indeed Celani's quantum reactor does resemble that of Rossi's, because he too refuses any independent confirmation or replication of his technology . . . That is incorrect. He is assisting other people who are