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Bob As far as I understand the details, the sea-quarks are a not unreasonable explanation for the probe data. Interestingly, the Stubbs alternative proposal removes sea-quarks but then effectively introduces sea-electrons as the main constituent of muons.  The Stubbs model would need to be

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Nygel-- How do you reconcile the Stubbs evaluation of real probe data? Bob From: Nigel Dyer <l...@thedyers.org.uk> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:10:57 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR Bob Up until a year

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Thoughts undoubtedly exist. The existence of anything else can be doubted. At least no one has shown otherwise. harry On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Nigel Dyer wrote: > Bob > > Up until a year or so ago I might have gone along with the idea that > quarks do not exist.

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Without getting too Clintonesque, the resolution to any disagreement here most likely depends on the meaning of “exist”… (or what is ‘is’)... If the lifetime is sufficiently short, then either stance is viable. A ‘meme’ exists for quarks, which if nothing else, guarantees (almost) eternal

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Bob Up until a year or so ago I might have gone along with the idea that quarks do not exist.  However, my son has produced a nice paper from which the fundamental particles (electrons, neutrinos and quarks) emerge in such a beautiful way that I am now completely convinced that they are

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22, 2018 at 3:35 AM, Russ <russ.geo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Redefining the language in mid-stream always makes exchanging ideas > >> difficult. The long standing convention is that all neutrons have the > same > >> mass, the binding energy in collections of

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tps://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: mix...@bigpond.com <mix...@bigpond.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 12:59:00 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR In reply to Andrew Meulenberg's message of Tue, 22

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In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 21 May 2018 18:11:35 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Is the binding energy released from a change in the configuration of the >nucleus derived from the protons and neutrons that comprise the nucleus or >does it come from the nucleus itself? [snip] Are these two mutually

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ult. The long standing convention is that all neutrons have the same >> mass, the binding energy in collections of nucleons in different nuclides >> varies. >> >> Everything gains mass as it approaches the speed of light. >> >> -----Original Message- >>

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nd.com> >Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 10:42 PM >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR > >In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 21 May 2018 11:00:54 -0400: >Hi, >[snip] >>Russ <russ.geo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >

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es. > > Everything gains mass as it approaches the speed of light. > > -Original Message- > From: mix...@bigpond.com <mix...@bigpond.com> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 10:42 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR > > I

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. -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com <mix...@bigpond.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 10:42 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 21 May 2018 11:00:54 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Russ <russ.geo...@gmai

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bjgect: Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR Is the binding energy released from a change in the configuration of the nucleus derived from the protons and neutrons that comprise the nucleus or does it come from the nucleus itself? On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 5:42 PM, <mix...@bigpond.com&l

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Is the binding energy released from a change in the configuration of the nucleus derived from the protons and neutrons that comprise the nucleus or does it come from the nucleus itself? On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 5:42 PM, wrote: > In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 21

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In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 21 May 2018 11:00:54 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Russ wrote: > >Might you point to a reference where the mass of neutrons in deuterium vs. >> other nuclides is said to be different. >> > >I do not understand. Is the claim here that a

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ot due to difference in mass of the constituent particles, then to what would you ascribe it? > >-Original Message- >From: mix...@bigpond.com <mix...@bigpond.com> >Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:56 PM >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reactio

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bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: Neutrons would change their mass if they approach the speed of light. If > they happen to circulate in a coherent system they may become more massive > based on their velocity in the system. I doubt that rest mass changes any. > IMHO a

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CSU campus. Bob Cook From: Jed Rothwell<mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 8:01 AM To: Vortex<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR Russ <russ.geo...@gmail.com<mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com>> wrote: Might

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Russ wrote: Might you point to a reference where the mass of neutrons in deuterium vs. > other nuclides is said to be different. > I do not understand. Is the claim here that a neutron in deuterium is heavier or lighter than a neutron in some other element? There are

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Might you point to a reference where the mass of neutrons in deuterium vs. other nuclides is said to be different. -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com <mix...@bigpond.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:56 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction i

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>From the Lugano report: "The Lithium content in the fuel is found to have the natural composition, i.e. 6Li 7 % and 7Li 93 %. However at the end of the run a depletion of 7Li in the ash was revealed by both the SIMS and the ICP-MS methods. In the SIMS analysis the 7Li content was only 7.9% and

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In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 20 May 2018 15:10:28 -0400: Hi, [snip] > The proton proton (PP) fusion reaction is the most enigmatic nuclear >reaction that you will ever run across. This reaction has concerned me a >lot and still confuses me. > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... >

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The proton proton (PP) fusion reaction is the most enigmatic nuclear reaction that you will ever run across. This reaction has concerned me a lot and still confuses me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... Proton–proton chain reaction The PP reaction should not occur, but it is said to occur as