: Chemical Engineer [mailto:cheme...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:07 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)
Just tell Defkalion to setup a US Company of which the Greek company will be
a subsidiary, call Stephen Chu and apply
On 2012-07-18 23:01, Andre Blum wrote:
according to http://lenrnews.eu/?p=113, DGTG is considering to leave
Greece.
Source is unclear and we are used to better English from Xanthoulis.
Maybe this is a translation by someone from a Greek letter.
By the way, come to think about it, what
the problem seems to be that client don't trust a greek company,
so they don't pay, yet.
Don't forget that they talk about Escrow account.
maybe also the payment is spread in time.
for now maybe they only have debt and technology.
another reason is that they might try to make pressure about tax
If there are hundreds of investors, there should be hundreds of
investigators doing due diligence research on the technology. Due
diligence would include talking to experts in the field. Most agents would
be willing to share news of the deal in return for quality information from
the expert.
Q:
On 2012-07-19 17:11, Alain Sepeda wrote:
the problem seems to be that client don't trust a greek company,
so they don't pay, yet.
Don't forget that they talk about Escrow account.
maybe also the payment is spread in time.
for now maybe they only have debt and technology.
another reason is that
The speculation is pretty reasonable. While I
prefer to leave all the cards on the table until
we know more, I'll say that the behavior of Rossi
and DGT has been consistent with a hypothesis
that Rossi did see some kind of major heat
effect, and maybe even had some cells -- or a
single cell
the two claimed change in the test are the following :
- first they did full calorimetry, while they initially wanted just rough
test to convince skeptics...
- second they decided to make analysis of burned reactants
What seems evident is that the testers take the control of the situation,
which
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Do people here know that Pons and Fleischmann were seeing 100% of their
cells showing excess heat at the time that they announced?
I do not recall that every sample worked. Most of them did. It was no
mystery why. This was Pd developed by
seems rational.
Rossi have a big history of hiding problems, and anticipating success.
DGT seems more rational, but you can have various opinions. mine is
optimistic.
I interpret the silence after the tests as new tests and as stability
problems that push them, rationally to stop claiming much.
At 01:30 PM 7/19/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Do people here know that Pons and Fleischmann were seeing 100% of
their cells showing excess heat at the time that they announced?
I do not recall that every sample worked.
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Well, Jed, you may be right. However, when I wrote that Pons and
Fleischmann only had one out of six cells work -- I really don't recall
where I got that idea, and it might be from later work, whatever -- I was
immediately corrected with a
At 07:09 PM 7/19/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Well, Jed, you may be right. However, when I wrote that Pons and
Fleischmann only had one out of six cells work -- I really don't
recall where I got that idea, and it might be
.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 19, 2012 9:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)
At 07:09 PM 7/19/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman
according to http://lenrnews.eu/?p=113, DGTG is considering to leave Greece.
Source is unclear and we are used to better English from Xanthoulis.
Maybe this is a translation by someone from a Greek letter.
Andre
On 2012-07-18 23:01, Andre Blum wrote:
according to http://lenrnews.eu/?p=113, DGTG is considering to leave
Greece.
Source is unclear and we are used to better English from Xanthoulis.
Maybe this is a translation by someone from a Greek letter.
Wording aside (it appears it's a translation
Seems to me, Peter Gluck may be the one to ask.
- Original Message -
From: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)
On 2012-07-18 23:01, Andre Blum wrote
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
To put it bluntly, it looks like a last call for potential investors,
implicitly urging them to hurry and take advantage of this opportunity
before DGTG will go elsewhere.
This statement gives me a bad impression as well, for two reasons:
1.
- Original Message -
From: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)
On 2012-07-18 23:01, Andre Blum wrote:
according to http://lenrnews.eu/?p=113, DGTG is considering
Jed, on your point 2 -- to me they seem not be saying they base their
claims on the cold fusion experiments of others. They said NASA, US Navy,
publicly traded companies from America, Canada, Germany and England and
universities abroad* have visited us and have turned their attention to our
Frank Acland ecatwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Jed, on your point 2 -- to me they seem not be saying they base their
claims on the cold fusion experiments of others. They said NASA, US Navy,
publicly traded companies from America, Canada, Germany and England and
universities abroad* have visited us
Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
My conclusion is: This company is getting ready to abscond. Correct me if
I'm wrong and argue from facts, not opinion. I am willing to be wrong
about this.
No one outside the company can know whether you are right or wrong. None of
us has any facts to go
.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Jul 18, 2012 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)
Frank Acland ecatwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Jed, on your point 2 -- to me they seem not be saying
Just tell Defkalion to setup a US Company of which the Greek company will
be a subsidiary, call Stephen Chu and apply to the US Dept of Energy for a
$1.6B loan guarantee for independent green power production in California
(equivalent to 40, $40M license agreements). Spend at least 5% of that
How much longer can this continue until there is some proper 3rd party validation.
Original Message
Subject: Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)
From: David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com
Date: Thu, July 19, 2012 10:03 am
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
I have to question
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co wrote:
How much longer can this continue until there is some proper 3rd party
validation.
Until Standard Oil of NJ approves. :-)
T
They are still busy deciding on the electric car's future...
On Wednesday, July 18, 2012, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Craig Brown
cr...@overunity.cojavascript:;
wrote:
How much longer can this continue until there is some proper 3rd party
validation.
Until
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