Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

My criticism allows for such a possibility. Harry On Wed., Jul. 17, 2019, 4:06 p.m. , wrote: > In reply to H LV's message of Tue, 16 Jul 2019 19:49:22 -0400: > Hi Harry, > > You are making the assumption that it actually has something to do with > nuclear > structure. However it is by no

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

I am interested in the vagaries of human physiology, when faced with releasing long held bedrock foundational concepts. Transmutation does not produce energy in the LENR reaction. Fusion is a non factor in energy production in LENR. LENR is a process that elevates the weirdness of quantum

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Tue, 16 Jul 2019 18:53:04 -0400: Hi, All the anecdotal stories I have heard to date report the engine running "cold", sometimes "hand cold". >One of the formats that energy production in the LENR reaction can assume >is shock wave generation. The Papp engine

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to H LV's message of Tue, 16 Jul 2019 19:49:22 -0400: Hi Harry, You are making the assumption that it actually has something to do with nuclear structure. However it is by no means certain as of yet, that such is the case. That's precisely why the energy release per atom would be

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

In my view, there are two independent processes at play in the LENR reaction such as happens in the Mizumo mesh: transmutation and vacuum energy extraction. This leads to confusion about what nuclear reactions are producing energy because we don't see any energy produced by transmutation but we do

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

If mass energy conversion is treated as a cause of nuclear structure then you are correct. I am looking at it as an effect of nuclear structure so the energy produced per atom would only tell us that nuclear forces are involved. Harry On Tue., Jul. 16, 2019, 6:23 p.m. , wrote: > In reply to

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

One of the formats that energy production in the LENR reaction can assume is shock wave generation. The Papp engine produced a huge amount of energy inside the combustion chambers of its paired cylinders but no heat. The first Papp engine was based on the production of a fuel cycle based on water.

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to H LV's message of Tue, 16 Jul 2019 12:44:27 -0400: Hi, [snip] >IMO the focus on mass-energy equivalence at the present time is not helpful >in this field. It should be set aside until there is a rough explanation of >the nuclear dynamics without it. Harry [snip] Calculation of the

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

Bob, also if the force on the spring is removed then the extra mass will be re-converted back into energy in addition to the transformation of potential energy into the kinetic energy of the spring's motion as it returns to equilibrium. However, the reconversion of the extra mass back into energy

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

Harry— Good questions. I would say pulling on the spring adds potential energy to the spring and the entity creating the tension. The entiity may be a closed system which entails the weak “gracity” EM field forces as Jurg suggests. Bob Cook From: H LV Sent:

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

On Tue., Jul. 16, 2019, 1:12 p.m. Jürg Wyttenbach, wrote: > My model shows that all mass is EM mass and in fact gravitation is the > weakest EM force. > > EM mass behaves exactly as Einstein and others before Einstein already > found. A spring under tension has more mass than a relaxed spring

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

My model shows that all mass is EM mass and in fact gravitation is the weakest EM force. EM mass behaves exactly as Einstein and others before Einstein already found. A spring under tension has more mass than a relaxed spring etc., chemical reactions produce heat --> reduces mass. The only

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

On Tue., Jul. 16, 2019, 9:51 a.m. Jed Rothwell, wrote: > H LV wrote: > > How much of the energy in a nuclear reaction is actually due to mass >> change? A chemical reaction is accompanied by mass change but the change >> is so small that it can be ignored so that essentially all the energy is

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

Energy is still the ability to do work. That hasn't changed, although some new concepts and math has been introduced. Harry On Tue., Jul. 16, 2019, 11:56 a.m. bobcook39...@hotmail.com, < bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I consider it likely possible to measure mass loss or gain in small >

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

I consider it likely possible to measure mass loss or gain in small systems—nano or micro scale in size—where temperatures change and entropy increases or decreases. However, Jurg”s theory regarding the parameter of mass may indicate a different ratio between mass and energy, depending upon

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

H LV wrote: How much of the energy in a nuclear reaction is actually due to mass > change? A chemical reaction is accompanied by mass change but the change > is so small that it can be ignored so that essentially all the energy is > due to EM forces performing work. > All forms of energy

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

How much of the energy in a nuclear reaction is actually due to mass change? A chemical reaction is accompanied by mass change but the change is so small that it can be ignored so that essentially all the energy is due to EM forces performing work. Even if there were no mass change in a nuclear

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

Am 16.07.19 um 09:27 schrieb Axil Axil: Living things can transmute elements. This ability is very hard to understand in terms of theory. May be you should start to learn a better theory... SM is fringe science in regard to nuclear physics. LENR is no mystery as there usually is no

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

Regarding: - I assume there is one fundamental cause of cold fusion in all systems. It is the same thing in all cases. This is similar to saying that fission is the same in reactors and bombs, although it looks and acts quite different. Living things can transmute elements. This

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

Axil: SM people never could measure a strong force ( all forces are EM forces..) and a unification with gravity of something inexistent - to enable LENR - is nonsense (gravity is a very tiny residual EM force see NPP 2.1.7) . Please stop producing childish noise by mixing everything you

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

Mizuno has what is needed to measure 4He in his cold fusion reactions. He merely needs to employ a good carbon cold trap to reduce the level of deuterium in the gas aliquot going into his RGA. Without the cold trap the D2 signal will swamp the 4He signal and it won’t be observable. With the

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

*The unification of the *electromagnetic , weak , and strong interactions could explain where

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

*For further study as follows:* *Grand Unified Theory* (*GUT*) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Unified_Theory A *Grand Unified Theory* (*GUT*) is a model in particle physics in which, at high energy ,

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

It is generally recognized in grand unification theories that the electroweak force (EMF) and the force of gravity were combined when the universe was just starting out. This is why science believes that the unification of gravity and EMF can occur at high energies. If there is enough gravity

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

All past experiments doing deuterium LENR I know always directly produced 4-He. If somebody believes that no fusion would happen at all, then he should visit a priest. The key feature of LENR is that fusion happens without any hard radiation that is significantly above background. We, in

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

Dewey July 13, 2019 at 1:13 PM Dr Rossi, I return to the comment of Neri Accornero: can you give a hint, not superficial, but not too difficult, about what can happen if your effect is not fusion, not fission, not chemical reaction? Andrea Rossi July 13, 2019 at 1:33 PM Dewey: Please go to

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

First, PP fusion is not possible on earth. It can only occur deep inside the cores of stars where the mass of protium reactants is huge. The roll of hydrogen in the LENR reaction is to promote the nanoplasmonic reaction enabled by a irregular micro surface such as cracks, pits and holes. Fusion

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

From: Jed Rothwell ➢ I assume there is one fundamental cause of cold fusion in all systems. It is the same thing in all cases. This is similar to saying that fission is the same in reactors and bombs, although it looks and acts quite different. This “one fundamental cause” could be the problem