Re: [Vo]:http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090127131654.htm

2009-03-24 Thread mixent
In reply to grok's message of Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:59:36 -0700: Hi, [snip] I always knew there was a way to burn up all that fission waste product (million-year storage my hairy ass...) What about all the containment vessels and tubing and equipment damaged by neutron bombardment? That's some huge

Re: [Vo]:Fear and Loathing in Las Vortex

2009-03-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Kyle Mcallister's message of Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:53:48 -0700 (PDT): Hi Kyle, [snip] Alright, if Morton's experiment (which I seem to have shot down in my own research, will post more if any interest) is not worth discussing, let's talk cold fusion. What can I do? I'm giving no one any

Re: [Vo]:Fear and Loathing in Las Vortex

2009-03-24 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Kyle Mcallister's message of Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:53:48 -0700 (PDT): /Can we build a damn thing that will make a cup of warm coffee or tea?/ If not, why not??? I suspect not. CF (or LENR) is finicky, and no one is yet certain of the precise

Re: [Vo]:Fear and Loathing in Las Vortex

2009-03-24 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Kyle Mcallister's message of Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:53:48 -0700 (PDT): /Can we build a damn thing that will make a cup of warm coffee or tea?/ If not, why not??? I suspect not. CF (or LENR) is finicky, and no one is yet

[Vo]:The Mueller Motor

2009-03-24 Thread thomas malloy
Vortexians; I read the first chapter of this book. It talks about the Mueller Motor. I corresponded with Mr. Mueller in the '90's I didn't heard any more from him. The book mentions the use of his motor as a generator for wind machines. This is an application, which is so obvious, that the

[Vo]:Inertial Propulsion

2009-03-24 Thread Terry Blanton
Anyone know what become of Robert L Cook? His web site has been closed circa Dec 2007 but is available on archive.org (see forceborne.com)? Also, I noticed in the Laithwaite patents (approved posthumously) there is a claim of IP. Anyone know of someone pursuing Eric's ideas? Terry

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno reports from ACS

2009-03-24 Thread Terry Blanton
Yikes! Do we actually have a positive article in Scientific American??!? (Lizabeth, this is the big one, I'm coming to see you.): http://www.sciam.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=after-20-years-new-life-for-cold-fu-2009-03-23 Terry On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:Fear and Loathing in Las Vortex

2009-03-24 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, mix...@bigpond.com mix...@bigpond.com mounted the barricade and roared out: /Can we build a damn thing that will make a cup of warm coffee or tea?/ If not, why not??? I suspect not. CF (or LENR) is finicky, and no one is

Re: [Vo]:Inertial Propulsion

2009-03-24 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know what become of Robert L Cook? His web site has been closed circa Dec 2007 but is available on archive.org (see forceborne.com)? Don't know much about Cook, myself. Also, I noticed in the Laithwaite patents (approved

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno reports from ACS

2009-03-24 Thread Harry Veeder
Yikes! Do we actually have a positive article in Scientific American??!? (Lizabeth, this is the big one, I'm coming to see you.): http://www.sciam.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=after-20- years-new-life-for-cold-fu-2009-03-23 Terry video link from the same page Is Dark EnergyAn

Re: [Vo]:Inertial Propulsion

2009-03-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Kyle Mcallister's message of Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:02:18 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] Laithwaite's trolley? Precess a mass one way, drag it back nonprecessing the other way, slinky your way through space. The only problem seems to be, from reading the patent (Laithwaite Dawson) and from a

Re: [Vo]:Inertial Propulsion

2009-03-24 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Since a = f/m, and m is constant, if there is a force in one direction only, then that force should accelerate the mass while it operates. That acceleration should increase the speed, which should then remain constant until the next acceleration pulse. IOW

Re: [Vo]:Fear and Loathing in Las Vortex

2009-03-24 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: I suspect not. CF (or LENR) is finicky, and no one is yet certain of the precise requirements (though there are now a few claims of complete replicability). Those who can achieve it have been trying for quite a while to get it right. Even

Re: [Vo]:Fear and Loathing in Las Vortex

2009-03-24 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- grok g...@resist.ca wrote: But the Mylow HoJoRotor is _exactly_ the kind of thing you can do in your garage -- or on the kitchen table, even. However, people are flat-out stating that the magnets are giving up their magnetic energy as they de-magnetize. If this be the case -- then

Re: [Vo]:Inertial Propulsion

2009-03-24 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Kyle Mcallister wrote: --- mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Since a = f/m, and m is constant, if there is a force in one direction only, then that force should accelerate the mass while it operates. That acceleration should increase the speed, which should then remain constant until the next

Re: [Vo]:Fear and Loathing in Las Vortex

2009-03-24 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Kyle Mcallister kyle_mcallis...@yahoo.com mounted the barricade and roared out: I haven't read much about Johnson's motor, but I will listen to the MP3 Esa provided a link to. If (BIG if) the thing does work, I'd doubt the

Re: [Vo]:Fear and Loathing in Las Vortex

2009-03-24 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com mounted the barricade and roared out: With that said, I should add that gas-phase CF at room temperature, which operates without a large external energy source, *might* produce enough

Re: [Vo]:Inertial Propulsion

2009-03-24 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Kyle Mcallister kyle_mcallis...@yahoo.com mounted the barricade and roared out: Since a = f/m, and m is constant, if there is a force in one direction only, then that force should accelerate the mass while it operates.

Re: [Vo]:Fear and Loathing in Las Vortex

2009-03-24 Thread Edmund Storms
On Mar 24, 2009, at 8:35 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Kyle Mcallister wrote: --- Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: [Robin von Spaandock wrote:] I suspect not. CF (or LENR) is finicky, and no one is yet certain of the precise requirements (though there are now a few claims of

Re: [Vo]:Inertial Propulsion

2009-03-24 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: 1. Mass M is moved say 10 units to the right by precession, thus (supposedly) forcelessly. F=0 at this point. This is a neat trick. He he he. Let me add this: neat trick... /if it works/ If you can do this you've already shattered

[Vo]:Quad S

2009-03-24 Thread thomas malloy
A mental control system, patented by the American Arny. This will make Grok throw out his T V set. http://proliberty.com/observer/20090118.htm --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---

Re: [Vo]:Quad S

2009-03-24 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, thomas malloy temal...@usfamily.net mounted the barricade and roared out: A mental control system, patented by the American Arny. This will make Grok throw out his T V set. http://proliberty.com/observer/20090118.htm I

Re: [Vo]:The Mueller Motor

2009-03-24 Thread Esa Ruoho
got this from evgray list: you spelled his name wrong (Muller) Look at this video if you doubt anything; 300W light bulb lit by single coil held in hand nest to rotor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2fF9aSEeVo His daughter Carmen and the Muller-tech guys still have that machine seen in video.