Re: [Vo]:what ever happened with this?

Terry Blanton wrote: > Hi, Mr. Xook: I'm not Frank; but, you can look here: >> >> https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg01635.html >> > > For some reason, the hard links don't seem to work today; so, here it is > on Jed's site: > > https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/DOEreportofth.p

Re: [Vo]:Verification of Mizuno experiment

bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: > “Figure 1. Principle of nuclear fusion. (Deuterium and tritium are shown > undergoing fusion to produce energy, neutrons and helium.)” > > > > “In the present study, by using this new hydrogen energy from fusion, we > hope to confirm a new power generation metho

Re: [Vo]:Verification of Mizuno experiment

bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: I am very surprised that Mizuno uses tritium. > He does not.

Re: [Vo]:UV-C Mask Direct Sterilization

Several hospitals have made room-sized UV facilities to sanitize N95 masks. Example: https://news.vumc.org/2020/04/09/vumc-groups-unite-to-sanitize-n95-masks-with-ultraviolet-light/ The masks are not supposed to be reused, but because of shortages they have been. Nurses and doctors are also cov

Re: [Vo]:UV-C Mask Direct Sterilization

This gadget produces UV light to filter air coming into a face mask. Mizuno invented something similar when he was working with glow discharge. He made a mask with very high voltage glow discharge screen. The amperage is so low it can run all day on a cell phone battery. It has slight blue glow in

[Vo]:Verification of Mizuno experiment

Here is a short paper describing a verification of Mizuno's experiment at the Hokkaido University of Science. This document includes an English version and the original Japanese version. https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IgarashiJdevelopmen.pdf

[Vo]:JCMNS 32 uploaded

J. Condensed Matter Nucl. Sci., Vol. 32, May 2020 is here: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BiberianJPjcondensedze.pdf There are only three papers in this volume.

Re: [Vo]:Better than N95

Terry Blanton wrote: You may have walked in the same space a beautiful woman just passed and > experienced her nice perfume. If she was shedding virus at that time you > are likely infected . . . > What if she is plain-looking? Am I safe?

Re: [Vo]:Masks

In Atlanta, a large group of people organized over the weekend. They are sewing mask covers. Not the masks themselves, but covers needed to protect hospital grade masks so that the masks can be re-used. Normally, they are only used once, but hospitals are running out. All over the country, research

Re: [Vo]:Chloroquine trials in New York

Michael Foster wrote: > I'm happy to see that rare cooperation between Trump and Cuomo will see a > large scale "trial" of chloroquine and Zithromax, already known to work as > a treatment for covid19. I hope this will expose FDA/CDC as owned by the > pharmaceutical business, as exemplified by t

[Vo]:Cuomo presentation on coronavirus

Here is a SUPERB presentation by Gov. Cuomo of New York, on Sunday March 22. This is one of the best analyses of the situation I have seen. It is long, but I suggest you see the whole thing. It is one of the best examples of leadership since FDR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlZeKTlpcqU Other

Re: [Vo]:Trial treatment starts today.

New York begins trial treatments on Tuesday. QUOTE: New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Sunday that drug trials to test coronavirus treatments will begin in the state Tuesday, after President Trump on Thursday said the Food and Drug Administration approved one of the drugs for clinical trials, as New

Re: [Vo]:COVID19 Scenario Explorer

Sean True wrote: You can set the duration of the simulation in a calendar control: > Ah, thanks. Those numbers are grayed out so I thought they were disabled. You have to click on the lower number to extend into the future. (I am using my awkward laptop, which is hard to navigate with.) The ac

Re: [Vo]:COVID19 Scenario Explorer

Charles wrote: > 'We are a research group at the Biozentrum, University of Basel, > Switzerland . We are broadly > interested in evolution, ecology, and population genetics with a focus on > rapidly evolving pathogens such as HIV, influenza virus, or pathogenic

Re: [Vo]:model of COVID-19 spread

Here is something similar. The title is odd, but it is well worth reading: https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56 Here is an important appeal to Congress from doctors in New York: https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/488585-a-plea-from-nyc-physicians-o

Re: [Vo]:Corona Virus

0:40 How bad is Coronavirus 4:00 Is the virus an "old persons" disease 5:18 Incubation period 7:50 What can be done to prevent infection 13:45 Drug shortages 15:20 Sauna use effect on infections 18:00 Was Coronavirus man-made 22:00 American Wild Deer diseases and Prions 32:00 Is Corona seasonal 35:

Re: [Vo]:A flu irony - less total deaths !!!

Terry Blanton wrote: You can't really define mortality of a disease until you either > a) have experience with the disease > b) count the dead > The mortality is the number of infected divided into the number of dead. > The Chinese now have enough data from recovered and dead patients to draw so

Re: [Vo]:A flu irony - less total deaths !!!

Terry Blanton wrote: Corona virus vaccines are difficult because the immune system attacks the > RNA; but, it's the spike proteins which cause the infection by "unlocking" > the cell wall. If they were easy, we would have a common cold vaccine. > A few years ago I read about efforts to develop

Re: [Vo]:A flu irony - less total deaths !!!

Terry Blanton wrote: > If you want to track the data in near real time > https://ncov2019.live/data > > the tables are sortable. > This site is also good: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Note that it has detailed information for several countries, such as: https://www.worldometers

Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

Video: "New York City doctor says he has to ‘plead to test people’ for coronavirus" https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/02/coronavirus-new-york-city-doctor-has-to-plead-to-test-people.html Lots of interesting technical comments in the video portion. This doctor thinks there are thousands of undiagnosed

Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

That was a superb presentation by Bruce Aylward. Jones: thanks for pointing it out. I must ruefully admit that Chinese communism does seem well suited for dealing with this. But, more than that, what Aylward emphasized is the scientific, rational, pragmatic, data-driven approach. That's as much pa

Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

Jones Beene wrote: This is an incredible must-see video by an expert on the new virus- which > will change your entire understanding of the Chinese response to Covid. > Essentially they reversed an epidemic situation in a short time. > Maybe they did. That is still not 100% sure. Granted, they d

Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

Here is frightening news. The Trump administration is politicizing this, lying about it, and suppressing the truth the way the Chinese government did. Pence Will Control All Coronavirus Messaging From Health Officials https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/us/politics/us-coronavirus-pence.html Here

Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: Jurg- > > > > How many cases in Switzerland—where? > https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#europe

Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

Terry Blanton wrote: *All schools in Japan told to close until April over virus outbreak* > That is a very serious response. I am surprised they are going this far. Here is an article by a political scientist in Japan who is outraged by the Japanese government's response to the crisis: https:/

Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

Here is some encouraging news. Look carefully at these graphs, especially the last two: Serious and Critical Cases Outcome of Cases (Recovery or Death) https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases/ Note that the first graph, "Total Cases (worldwide)" can be changed to the logarit

Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

Somewhat good news, from the N.Y. Times: A W.H.O. mission to China has said that the daily tally of new cases there peaked and then plateaued between Jan. 23 and Feb. 2, and has steadily declined since. Chinese officials reported 508 new cases and 71 deaths as of Monday, a slower pace than in pre

Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

Jones Beene wrote: > It is possible that many flu deaths there could have been intentionally > labeled as the known types, in order to prevent public panic. > I doubt it. Anyway, full-scale public panic is underway, so if that happened, it did not work. Panic is fully justified, in this case.

Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: But mortality is 2,3% for confirmed severe cases only not for the > average infected ones. This, so far, looks like being well below > influenza. > I do not think so. I believe the 2.3% projection is for all cases, but I agree it is probably too high. Because uncounted in

Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

Here is the latest news about the coronavirus pandemic. The New York Times reports the mortality rate is now estimated at 2.3% by the Chinese CDC. That compares to the rate of 0.1 for ordinary influenza. The Times also reports that the Director of a hospital in Wuhan has died of the disease. That

Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

Terry Blanton wrote: > Those are quotes, not citations. > Quotes from Chinese doctors who are treating people with the flu. That's authoritative. > I was looking for a citation for your comment that "Most appear to be > okay now." I have seen quotes that the mortality rate is 15.6%. > Su

Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

Terry Blanton wrote: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 3:37 PM Jed Rothwell > wrote: ...Most appear to be okay now. > > Citation? > Dr. Peng and other researchers wrote that 40 health care professionals at his hospital had been infected in January, a third of the cases incl

Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

Terry Blanton wrote: > The Chinese government reported that 1,700 health care workers have > contracted the virus, and 6 have died. That is a mortality rate of 0.4%. > > A mortality rate cannot be determined without the number that recover. We > don't know that yet. > Ah, but we probably do kn

Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

The Chinese government reported that 1,700 health care workers have contracted the virus, and 6 have died. That is a mortality rate of 0.4%. It is about 4 times higher than ordinary flu. I think this is a reliable estimate because they probably keep close track of health care workers, and they prob

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Vipervirus Truth?

Jonathan Berry wrote: > Along with the lockdown and arrests... Welding building shut... > > If the Virus isn't higher than 2-3% fatality, then I think they are > probably using it as an excuse to kill off some of their population > under the guise of a virus. > Such things are not happening, b

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Vipervirus Truth?

wrote: > Also the numbers are too low because of people that are infected and die > away from medical care and thus don't get > included in the statistics. > The number of people who die is too low for this reason. But, the number of people who get sick and get no medical care is far higher tha

[Vo]:J. Condensed Matter Nuclear Science Vol. 31 uploaded

See: https://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BiberianJPjcondensedzd.pdf

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Vipervirus Truth?

Jones Beene wrote: > The population for China is over 1.4 billion. Thus, in a normal year with > normal flu rates, they would expect more than 10 million deaths from all > causes. > > Since there are normally almost one million deaths per month in China > expected - and being dealt with by the c

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Vipervirus Truth?

I wrote: > I am pretty sure news of it would leak out. Many dreadful false rumors are > spreading. News that is both dreadful and true would leak out, I think. > Just now, Chinese and world mass media reported: A doctor who was among the first to warn about the coronavirus outbreak, only to be

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Vipervirus Truth?

Jones Beene wrote: The normal death rate for China before this tragedy is at least 2.1 % > according to Wiki the wise. > That seems high. Wouldn't that mean the average lifespan is 48 years? It is 78 years, and the median age is 37, so I don't see how 2.1% per year could be dying. See: https://

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Vipervirus Truth?

This report indicates there may be 25,000 dead. I think such large numbers would impossible to cover up. They could only be dealt with by mass burials with machinery, like after a large battle in war. Most people in China nowadays have cell phones with cameras. Photos and accounts would circulate.

[Vo]:Quotes from Wilfred Trotter

Here are quotes from Wilfred Trotter, FRS (1872 - 1939), who knew what from what. Many are relevant to cold fusion: https://todayinsci.com/T/Trotter_Wilfred/TrotterWilfred-Quotations.htm Some good ones I have not seen before: If mankind is to profit freely from the small and sporadic crop of the

[Vo]:Some more interesting results from Saito et al.

See: https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/6017-mizuno-replication-and-materials-only/?postID=127666#post127666

Re: [Vo]:Looking for feedback on gravity control experiment

Andrew Meulenberg wrote: I suspect that, like me few have bothered with Kindle readers. > Kindle readers are great! But you don't need one to read a Kindle book. You can read it with any browser on a PC, a Mac, Chromebook, etc. Amazon sells about half of all books in U.S. Amazon does not report

[Vo]:AIP mentions cold fusion

QUOTE: Final FY20 Appropriations: National Science Foundation *Low-energy nuclear reactions.* The House report encourages NSF to “evaluate the various theories, experiments, and scientific literature surrounding the field of LENR,” which is most associated with the pursuit of cold fusion

[Vo]:JCMNS 30 uploaded

Here is the latest issue of J. Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. The papers are from the 13th International Workshop on Anomalies in Hydrogen Loaded Metals, Oasi di Greccio (Lazio, Italy), 5–9 October 2018. But there are only four papers. There were many more presented at that conference. I gather

Re: [Vo]:Andrew Riley memorial

Brian Ahern wrote: I TRIED TO WARN THEM AT 11;20 est; > I called again at 1;40 PM AND I WAS TOO LATE! > > I LEARED FROM mARTIN fLEISCHMAN ON 12./23 AT MIT that they wereb using > bulk samples of Pd. This was storing energy equal to a plastic explosive > that could be detonated by a simple shock.

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno experiment replication at Hokkaido University of Science

I added some information from Saito et al., including a schematic, and calibrations and excess heat tests at 72 W, 345 W and 750 W. See pages 6 - 12: https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTsupplement.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Andrew Riley memorial

Jonathan Berry wrote: I have heard of Palladium cubes exploding violently in cold fusion > tests, this wasn't the accident I hope? > No, it was a chemical explosion. It was investigated in detail. See: https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IkegamiHthirdinter.pdf#page=147 (I have other documents ab

[Vo]:Andrew Riley memorial

On January 2, 1992, cold fusion researcher Dr. Andrew Riley was killed in a tragic accident at SRI. His sister Jane Riley recently planted a memorial tree to him. See: Former mayor dedicates tree to brother 27 years after his death https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/ipswich-mayor-jane-riley-dedic

[Vo]:Phys. Rev. C paper, "Nuclear fusion reactions in deuterated metals"

Abstract here: https://journals.aps.org/prc/accepted/ff073P1eKf41950715597a86203c464d727b8de5b

[Vo]:OT: The toxic rhetoric of climate change

xperts at Wikipedia. > who have decided on their own that the IPCC reports are too conservative > for their agenda. > > Harry > > On Mon., Dec. 16, 2019, 10:35 p.m. Jed Rothwell, > wrote: > >> Global warming is a real problem, and very serious. The notion that >&

Re: [Vo]:OT: The toxic rhetoric of climate change

Global warming is a real problem, and very serious. The notion that species will quickly adapt to extreme changes is contrary to everything we know about biology. Even now, a slight change in the onset of flowing plants threatens to wipe out migratory birds and other animals. Furthermore, the speed

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno experiment replication at Hokkaido University of Science

I described this as a "replication," but as you see in my brief report, it should be called a "verification." Mizuno provided both the reactor and the mesh. Still, Saito and his students made the calorimeter and confirmed the excess heat. This is a step forward. Other efforts to replicate have not

[Vo]:Mizuno experiment replication at Hokkaido University of Science

I am pleased to report that Mizuno sent me some photos and data from a replication now underway in at the Hokkaido University of Science in Sapporo (https://www.hus.ac.jp/eng/). Input is 500 W and output is ~650 W. I uploaded some details and graphs. See p. 6: https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Miz

Re: [Vo]:Status of Mizuno Pd-Ni replications

Jones Beene wrote: > However, one of the early images coming from the photos Mizuno sent out - > showed the metal piece which was used for the rubbing and it was not a new > rod but looked used pretty "gnarly", for lack of a better term. As if it > had been used for years. > > Given that Mizuno

Re: [Vo]:Status of Mizuno Pd-Ni replications

Axil Axil wrote: Sometimes, the LENR reaction can be active even if there is no excess heat > produced. The LENR reaction will sometimes produce transmutation without > the production of excess heat. > It cannot as far as I know. There are examples in the literature such as Iwamura where transmu

Re: [Vo]:Status of Mizuno Pd-Ni replications

Jones Beene wrote: > Has an isotope analysis of Mizuno's own original and successful mesh been > performed to determine the exact composition? > Not yet. We sent samples to two different labs. We sent three samples to each lab: mesh as received; mesh prepared by Mizuno; mesh that produced exces

[Vo]:Status of Mizuno Pd-Ni replications

Several replications of the Pd-Ni experiment are underway, but they have not been going well. Zhang reported small excess heat. It went away, came back, and now it has gone again. Others say it is not working. I asked Mizuno to comment on what the problems may be. Here is a summary (not an exact tr

[Vo]:Good introduction to AI

This is off topic, but there is a new book introducing AI for the general reader. It is short. Not detailed, but technically accurate. It is also hilarious, with cute illustrations. You Look Like a Thing and I Love You: How Artificial Intelligence Works and Why It's Making the World a Weirder Plac

Re: [Vo]:Tennenbaum articles in Asia Times

Frank Znidarsic wrote: I have been reading so much about Asia and China lately. In 2020 China is > to be the country with the largest GDP in the world. > Nope. Most sources say it is around $15 trillion versus $22 trillion for the U.S. https://mgmresearch.com/china-vs-united-states-a-gdp-comp

[Vo]:Tennenbaum articles in Asia Times

This is a 3-part article. The author attended ICCF22 so he knows what he is talking about. 1. https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/11/article/cold-fusion-1-a-potential-energy-gamechanger/ 2. https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/11/article/cold-fusion-japan-takes-the-lead/ 3. https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/1

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Galileo’s craven refusal to support Copernican astronomy

bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: > The essay you provide highlights the effect of the “hard wired” instinct > to be part of the HERD of people making up a society of economically driven > humans and a FEELING it is good to be the most aggressive pecker in the > flock, the top dog, the biggest ram

[Vo]:Galileo’s craven refusal to support Copernican astronomy

Here is an essay I wrote about this, over at LENR Forum. You might think this has nothing to do with cold fusion, but you would be wrong. https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/6165-galileo%E2%80%99s-craven-refusal-to-support-copernican-astronomy/?postID=123657#post123657

[Vo]:Lewis Larsen dies

Steve Krivit reported that Lewis Larsen died on October 25, 2019, at age 72. See: http://news.newenergytimes.net/2019/10/31/lenr-theorist-lewis-larsen-dies/

[Vo]:SAFIRE project report

Easier to follow than the video: https://www.safireproject.com/ewExternalFiles/SAFIRE-Project-Report.pdf Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTaXfbvGf8E

[Vo]:Uploaded LANL. Workshop on Cold Fusion Phenomena. 1989

LANL. Workshop on Cold Fusion Phenomena. 1989. Santa Fe, NM: Los Alamos National Laboratory Program Committee, Agenda and Abstracts https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LANLworkshopon.pdf This shows that there was a lot of support for cold fusion research at the DoE initially. A number of these abs

[Vo]:Mizuno ICCF22 PowerPoint slides uploaded

Mizuno, T. and J. Rothwell. *Increased Excess Heat from Palladium Deposited on Nickel (PowerPoint slides)*. in *The 22nd International Conference for Condensed Matter Nuclear Science ICCF-22*. 2019. Assisi, Italy PowerPoint slides in Handout format with notes in English and Japanese. https://www.

Re: [Vo]:Fake it till you make it

Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > You can always sell a good idea without any true relation to reality if > you manage to produce/show the investors a better reality... > The company did not only sell that idea to investors and bigwigs such as a former Secretary of State. It also sold the idea to many ski

Re: [Vo]:Fake it till you make it

I agree that is a good book. Very interesting. There are some unsettling parallels to some aspects of cold fusion research. I think some of the reviews and comments got the story wrong. They portrayed both Holmes and the company as complete fakes, with no redeeming qualities. She was a fake, but m

[Vo]:ICCF21 Proceedings uploaded

JOURNAL OF CONDENSED MATTER NUCLEAR SCIENCE Proceedings of the 21st International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science, Lory Student Center, Colorado State University in Fort Collins, Colorado, USA, June 03–08, 2018 VOLUME 29, August 2019 https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BiberianJPjco

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Mizuno mesh experiment by Zhang

Previously, I wrote that Zhang's tests tend to "peter out" after about 3 hours. I said they stop producing heat. That is incorrect. The spreadsheet shows the heat did not peter out completely. At the end of Test 1 the reactor was still producing 0.2 W. At the end of Test 2 it was producing 0.4 W, a

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Mizuno mesh experiment by Zhang

I wrote: > Be careful when comparing this to the original experiment, because the > mass of nickel mesh is smaller. > Nope. That was a typo in the report, which I shall fix tomorrow. The mass is about the same.

Re: [Vo]:Replication of Mizuno mesh experiment by Zhang

JonesBeene wrote: This is not exactly a “replication” at least in qualitative terms - in > that the gain relative to the input power is tiny. > The gain relative to input is irrelevant, and meaningless. You can change it to any value you like, by improving the insulation around the cell. It is

[Vo]:Replication of Mizuno mesh experiment by Zhang

I am pleased to report a replication of Mizuno's experiment by H. Zhang: https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ZhangHreproducti.pdf Excess heat started at ~4 W and has now reached 9.6 W. Be careful when comparing this to the original experiment, because the mass of nickel mesh is smaller. The calori

Re: [Vo]:Deneum early results

>From the video, I gather Deneum is are trying to measure heat with a single thermocouple on the outside of the reactor. This is a bad idea. As I said in the paper, you should use a calorimeter. If they were to get ~100 W of excess heat I suppose they could detect it with a single thermocouple, but

[Vo]:More supplemental information on Mizuno experiment

I added some new info to the supplement document, including some instructions from Mizuno to someone he sent a prepared mesh to. See: https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTsupplement.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Deneum early results

JonesBeene wrote: > > You seem to be missing the point… and adding a dose of silly pedantry to > boot. > > > > The goal here is to clean and completely degas the reactor --- NOT to > learn the identity of the last bit of gas which was removed. > Mizuno and other experts have told me that withou

Re: [Vo]:Deneum early results

JonesBeene wrote: It is unwise and too early to belittle this fine effort . . . > I am not belittling it. I am pointing out that they are not following the recipe. They are not doing it the way Mizuno recommended. If it works, more power to them. If it does not work, we will not know why. > A

Re: [Vo]:Deneum early results

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 1:36 PM JonesBeene wrote: > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKRt3fa4lfU > > > > They are doing a professional job but nothing anomalous is showing up so > far. > At LENR-forum this person stated that they do not have a mass spectrometer. So they are not doing a pr

[Vo]:Another warning about nickel dust in the Mizuno experiment

ANOTHER WARNING ABOUT NICKEL DUST A person who is replicating the experiment told me that after vigorous rubbing, the weight of the mesh decreased. I asked Mizuno to comment. He said that some forms of Pd are hardened, to the point where they are harder than typical Ni. If you are using one, inste

[Vo]:Some information on the mesh from the Japanese vendor

See: https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/6017-mizuno-replication-and-materials-only/?postID=115073#post115073

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Solar could be the death of LENR for the grid level segment... but hey … that's OK.

JonesBeene wrote: Where does this ongoing sea-change in power cost leave LENR? > > > > In two words: portable power. This market is not too shabby - even if you > can only get low penetration. > There is no way PV can compete with cold fusion. When it matures, cold fusion will be hundreds of tim

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to betheprecursor to all future devices

H LV wrote: How much of the energy in a nuclear reaction is actually due to mass > change? A chemical reaction is accompanied by mass change but the change > is so small that it can be ignored so that essentially all the energy is > due to EM forces performing work. > All forms of energy conver

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

I wrote: > ULVAC quadrupole mass spectrometer: model YTP-50M. > Built in precision meter, ULVAC, GCMT G-Tran ISG-1 > > I do not know if this has the umph to measure helium. > Let me put that in more technical terms. I mean I do not know whether it has enough resolution, power, moxie or chutzpah.

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Axil Axil wrote: > If the reactor stops producing heat at some later time, the fuel > consumption rate can be calculated and this data might indicate what energy > production mechanism is producing energy in the mesh reactor. > I have a feeling that might be caused by contamination rather than

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

JonesBeene wrote: > > Good point. Jed knows the details of the mass spec Mizuno had available, > which was damaged in the earthquake. IIRC it was being repaired when the > paper was written and its present status has not been reported. Perhaps he > will comment on this. > ULVAC quadrupole ma

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

Axil Axil wrote: Lutz Jaitner has commented on the images of craters found and shared on the > Pd coated Ohmasa vibrator plates > I know nothing about this device, but perhaps the vibrations caused a problem. Anyway, Mizuno ran a cell for 3 years, producing considerable excess heat, but there was

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be theprecursor to all future devices

JonesBeene wrote: > > The problem with any analysis being touted as the basis for future devices > - is pinpointing the full and correct understanding of the operating > principle. Unfortunately, the operating principle of this device is not > well-described by Ed Storms. It would be a big mist

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

Axil Axil wrote: > *Furthermore, from studying LENR results over the years, it is becoming > increasingly apparent to me that LENR has a major issue to deal with. LENR > makes matter and energy disappear. A major problem with LENR reactors is > that they fall apart over time. This highly corrosi

[Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

I believe that if Mizuno's results are correct, and especially if Ed Storms' theory is right, this design will be the precursor to all future devices. As I usually do, I look back at other technologies. The first transistor was the precursor to all subsequent devices, even though the methods of mak

Re: [Vo]:How to make money with cold fusion

JonesBeene wrote: If palladium is being consumed then the economics are much less favorable – > even when the correct price is used… > Yes. That is what I said in the book, on p. 35: https://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcoldfusiona.pdf Consumed or transmuted in secondary reactions. If it is

Re: [Vo]:How to make money with cold fusion

JonesBeene wrote: > The first products will be the ones highest in commercial need for > portable source of electricity, not heat. I doubt that mining > cryptocurrency will be high enough in value as a niche market for any > advanced energy generator. They only need cheap - nothing else override

Re: [Vo]:How to make money with cold fusion

H LV wrote: When the electric battery was first discovered in the early 1800s and > little was known about the phenomena, to some people it seemed like it > could become the next great source of energy. I think people should temper > their commercial and scientific expectations when faced with t

[Vo]:Supplemental information on Increased Excess Heat paper

I have created a new document to supplement Mizuno's recent paper: Mizuno, T. and J. Rothwell, *Supplemental Information on 'Increased Excess Heat from Palladium Deposited on Nickel'* 2019: LENR-CANR.org https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTsupplement.pdf So far it includes three sections:

Re: [Vo]:How to make money with cold fusion

Esa Ruoho wrote: You could always sell/rent a cold fusion-based diesel-aggregator > replacement to a bunch of electronic music hippies. or other types of > festivals, too. > Seriously, that kind of thing would never make any money. I am sure it will take billions of dollars to develop cold fusio

Re: [Vo]:How to make money with cold fusion

Robert McKay wrote: > > So, how do you make this money? Not by trying to sell energy! That is > > a highly regulated industry. It is a difficult and complex business. > > > Mine cryptocurrency.. I *hate* that stuff! You may have a good point. That might be a good way to make money with cold

[Vo]:How to make money with cold fusion

The world energy market is roughly $6 trillion per year: https://www.enerdata.net/publications/executive-briefing/world-energy-expenditures.html $1.8 trillion per year is invested in energy, in things like digging wells, R&D, erecting wind towers and so on. That is the pot of money you can tap i

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Jack Cole wrote: We disagree, so I'll drop it as not being productive. I believe that the > falseness of Mizuno's previous results was exposed and he/you are unwilling > to spend the time to address the issues that showed how his experiments > were likely compromised. > I did, at the time. I ju

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I wrote: > You have to address the issues that Kowalski et. al. raised and I quoted >> above. >> > > I am not obligated. I do not agree, and I am not going to take the time to > explain why. > I should at least explain the main reasons. Mizuno did not use the same method of calorimetry Kowalski

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