Re: [Vo]:List integrity

You know that Mary was between probably 11 to 13 when she gave birth to Jesus, right? Menses was considered adulthood, and children were considered adults when they reached puberty, and treated that way, with all the rights and responsibilities. On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Jojo Jaro

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Truth about islam and little girls.

On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 2:22 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: First, I would like to apologize to the list for posting this despite my promise not to do so And everything you might have to say from this point doesn't matter. This has nothing to do with the list , or modern muslims.

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Truth about islam and little girls.

I sharpen my machete every time I hear that the WBC is in town. Oh, and look at how the mormons were treated. And since you seem so fond of using past behavior to villify a group today, hows about how the Catholic Church treated the protestants? On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Jojo Jaro

Re: [Vo]:something to consider

there's a big difference between disdain for having a view, and suggesting that because you belong to a group, you must be a murdering pedophile bent on the destruction of other groups. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: ** Eric, I forgot to mention. What

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Truth about islam and little girls.

Red. Blue. YELLOW! Chartruese. That has been your color commentary, we now return you to the action. Alex Hollins On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: ** Jones and Robin are acceptable

Re: [Vo]:something to consider

with equal disdain. Insults to my faith started from multiple members of this group long long long before I started insulting Lomax by telling the truth about his religion. You might say there is nothing that leaking pen has posted in this post that would constitute an insult but you need to take

Re: [Vo]:OT: The truth about who's continuing the cycle of insults here

It's too bad you see insults in simple statements of fact. in addition, many of the comments were replys to earlier posts , and because of the thread it's in, your statement that you will stop may not have been seen by everyone. I would suggest making a new thread, with an appropriate title,

Re: [Vo]:PLEASE READ, two new rules

shoot, I seem to have resubscribed with the wrong email address. Let me fix that! On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: Those two rules are on a very good way, yet I propose slight deviation, in the same spirit. About Feeding a troll, or as said here

Re: [Vo]:PLEASE READ, two new rules

I'll be completely honest. My insults back at JoJo were intentional, and horrible behavior. I shouldn't have done it. Also, Bill, I'm trying to sign up on the list on an email that contains my name, and I'm not getting a response. Is signup still turned off? On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:02 AM,

Re: [Vo]:PLEASE READ, two new rules

real name! :-) Some sort of foreign name thing. Dave -Original Message- From: leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Jan 9, 2013 11:58 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:PLEASE READ, two new rules I'll be completely honest. My insults back at JoJo were

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

flip a coin 99 times, if it comes up heads 99 times, what is the probability that it will come up heads the 100th time? And not sure where Fox got their 10 tons, but the volume, 15 meters across, is pretty much been the estimate since the beginning. perhaps someone mis estimated what 15 cubic

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

have you tried printing it out? On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 2:20 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: All should work, but it does make a difference. LED/LCD seems best, I have not yet tried it on a CRT. On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri,

Re: [Vo]:Curious irony

Makes perfect sense. excess heat is being generated by the motion of the particles involved, and becoming more tightly bound and higher forces to create the new atoms would move everything more, yes no? On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: On April 15th, an

Re: [Vo]:MODERATOR: J. Cude, extensive Rule 2 violations

The standard skepticism that any scientist should have, wishing to explore, to look at the evidence, to experiment and refine, is , from what I've seen, welcome here. What is not is blindly saying, THis cannot be true, and then, THEN, after deciding something is false, going about poking every

Re: [Vo]:Percentage of Physicist who reject LENR

zero percent of those who have actually run the experiments themselves? On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote: Just a practical question . (serious, I need a number) is there any statistic about the ratio of physicist who think LENR is not real? is there

Re: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent detailed measurement of the power input?

Because when he DOES finally allow it, and its fine, people will look stupid. Its never what the magician tells you NOT to look at thats important, its what he tells you to look at. On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: This has only just occurred

Re: [Vo]:MODERATOR: andrewppp removed

I had to go through the past few threads that I honestly wasn't following to see what was meant. Yeah... I wouldn't have tolerated him as long as Bill did. It seemed he lived to say, Oh Really? On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: William Beaty

Re: [Vo]:I confess

I do know that beta particles, used in the famous gold foil experiments, are .75 c in vacuum, but often faster than c in other materials. On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Roger B rogerbi...@hotmail.com wrote: I confess to being an ignoramus. I confess to having only a B.A. in psychology, a

Re: [Vo]:I confess

/entry/Alpha_decayalpha particles typically have an energy around 5 MeV which works out to be a velocity of 5% that of light. - Joe On 6/4/2013 6:12 PM, leaking pen wrote: I do know that beta particles, used in the famous gold foil experiments, are .75 c in vacuum, but often faster than c

Re: [Vo]:I confess

This. Outlook is for suckers and people required to use it at the office. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Roger, Open a gmail account. WYSIWYG.

Re: [Vo]:Reifenschweiler effect rediscovered in Japan

vice versa. if it is decreasing the half life, it is INCREASING the reaction rate, it's decaying faster. On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: I don't know much about nuclear physics, but wouldn't it be endothermic? Endothermic is the wrong

Re: [Vo]:Reifenschweiler effect rediscovered in Japan

That seems speculative. Do we have any proof of that? It may be a completely different decay pathway. On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The BEC formed by the nanoparticles shields the gamma rays produced by the acceleration of half life radiation relaxation

Re: [Vo]:Quantum teleportation done between distant large objects

They made entangled particles interact with each other at a distance for a while, sending complex info, rather than a single on off communication like we've done at distance before. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Roger Bird bachc...@gmail.com wrote: That really sounds interesting. I don't

Re: [Vo]:Bold attempt at OverUnity via gravity

are crackle and pop really higher order derivatives of motion, or are you having some fun there? (im serious, my physics and mechanics is not quite enough to tell if you're jerking my chain with those two.) On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Grimer seems

Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth

Considering that nuclear plants in the US are designed around the idea of EMP from nearby nuclear explosions not being able to stop them running, I don't believe there is a problem. (From my father in law, who is a senior reactor operator at Palo Verde, they have mechanical backups to completely

Re: [Vo]:A new theory of electromagnetism is in the works.

That never makes sense to me. It makes more sense to place a photon as a different energy version of the same type of thing. Electrons exhibit the same particle wave duality as photons, why are both not just particles in the same class, mediated by a force we don't yet have set down, and THAT

Re: [Vo]:Wanted: Pilot Customer for ECAT 1 MW plant

Dibs on minting the copper into commemorative coins. one side will have rossi in profile, above the ecat, the other will have In Honor of All Cold Fusion Deniers inscribed around the rim, and a giant middle finger. On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: Why

Re: [Vo]:eCat weaponizable after all?

indeed, there are easier and cheaper ways to burn down a building. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Rossi has previously said the eCat is no danger : at most it would melt and stop working. Andrea Rossi November 13th, 2013 at 12:24

Re: [Vo]:Quote from Guy Murchie about Ptolemaic astronomy

How is that triple? On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Ruby r...@hush.com wrote: I have been moving into a new old house and moving stuff out of storage. I have about 2000 books, covering every phase of my life's interests. I just pulled this very

Re: [Vo]:Local Calculated Velocity of Space Ship

* However if we consider ourselves using our initial clock synchronisation, then we know our true accumulated speed because we can see that the light pulse is only just travelling a bit faster than us (it takes the pulse a very long time to travel from the back of the ship to the front) and so we

Re: [Vo]:Local Calculated Velocity of Space Ship

I'm lost. Time dilation would continue to effect the synchonized clock, right? On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:17 PM, jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au wrote: On 16/11/2013 12:25 PM, leaking pen wrote: *However if we consider ourselves using our initial clock synchronisation, then we know our true

Re: [Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination

Waldo anyone? On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:19 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, I think Doppler Weather and Military radar pulsing 750,000 to 3,000,000 watts 24/7 into the atmosphere is potentially the worst of the offenders. The NEXRAD Doppler weather towers cover a 150

Re: [Vo]:[OT] ten core beliefs that most scientists take for granted

Heh i've been playing around with that idea since reading a book on chemical memories when I was 12. On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 2:26 AM, Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote: My suspicion is that many of Sheldrakes 'non-materialist' ideas, such as the idea that memories are not just physical

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

Doesnt say what he acquired it for, probably cash, royalties, and stock. if he's smart. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: So if Rossi sold the rights to the product, then doesn't this mean that he's out of the business? If so, then it seems like quite a

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

I've never heard anyone malign his programming skills. moral character, visual design skills, absolutely, but never his coding chops. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Somehow I think millions plus your name to live

Re: [Vo]:Magnetism doesn't exist

may i suggest googling the phrase? 245 results. On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:25 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Except for when I have written it, I have never seen the words Magnetism doesn't exist written. But this confuses me because while the illusion of magnetism is

Re: [Vo]:Magnetism doesn't exist

John, don't forget the around the line when googling to get exact phrase only! On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:58 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Pen, googling it finds results but I have not found anything that are saying the same things. For instance lines such as 'animal

Re: [Vo]:Too much solar PV electricity in Hawii

hmm, sounds like a need for a power intensive industry to move in. Say, something that uses seawater as well? like, oh, I dunno... water desalination and hydrogen separation? On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Hawaii has the most expensive electricity

Re: [Vo]:Too much solar PV electricity in Hawii

Yes, but iirc, they are on the shipping path to a few areas that aren't, and might not always be returning with full cargoes from dropping off in north america. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: hmm, sounds like

Re: [Vo]:Drop a clock

gravity is an acceleration vector, it IS accelerating in relation to itself, not just in relation to you. In addition, it's an accelerating acceleration vector. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:57 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: If you are in an accelerating space elevator, and you

Re: [Vo]:Drop a clock

, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:00 AM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: gravity is an acceleration vector, it IS accelerating in relation to itself, not just in relation to you. In addition, it's an accelerating acceleration vector. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:57 PM, John Berry berry.joh

Re: [Vo]:Drop a clock

with the distortion of space (falling) isn't as far as space is concerned. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:00 AM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.comwrote: gravity is an acceleration vector, it IS accelerating in relation to itself, not just in relation to you. In addition, it's an accelerating

Re: [Vo]:Drop a clock

, and a cursory google search shows me not to have gone nuts in this regards. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:40 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:12 PM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: Not at all, however, if you are accelerating at a rate away from

Re: [Vo]:Drop a clock

acceleration they are undergoing from the earth. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:38 PM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I am missing something at this point as well. Isn't dilation an effect of VELOCITY

Re: [Vo]:Drop a clock

-02-27 0:40 GMT+01:00 John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:12 PM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: Not at all, however, if you are accelerating at a rate away from the body that the clock is falling towards, No offence to you, but I thought that misunderstanding

Re: [Vo]:Drop a clock

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=237212 On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:49 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:41 PM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: Berry, I'm fairly certain that is dilation from the velocity copresent with the acceleration

Re: [Vo]:Plastic detector find

terry, HIGH SPEED is the key. very interesting project. good luck! On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:43 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Thank you Jones. I want to detect the bottles before they are shredded and washed.

Re: [Vo]:CBI to decommission floating reactor

stationary floating. On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose they forgot about aircraft carriers and submarines. :-) On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:01 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: CBI to decommission floating reactor 14 April 2014

Re: [Vo]:Recent news on Podkletnov's gravity shielding work...

reading the article... shoot. That soundsalmost identical to a gravity shielding experiment I created fictionally for my webcomic... Zounds! On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:58 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to MarkI-ZeroPoint's message of Sun, 18 May 2014 17:27:53 -0700: Hi, [snip]

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

Okay, so can we get them to test the emDrive now? On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: See: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-07/31/nasa-validates-impossible-space-drive Eric

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

is that the thrust will be shown to be an error once everything is taken into account. The power to generate the large amount of RF must enter the device from somewhere and that is likely the root of the thrust. Dave -Original Message- From: leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com To: vortex-l

Re: [Vo]:Paper proves Bill Nye's faked 'greenhouse effect' experiment is also based on the wrong 'basic physics'

so run it again with a fan inside. issue fixed! On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:18 AM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Paper proves Bill Nye's faked 'greenhouse effect' experiment is also based on the wrong 'basic physics'

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

Except, in all those cases, there are specific TIME FRAMES and LOCATIONS tied to the theory. Failure to understand that is your problem. May I suggest study and learning, instead of ridicule? You know, being a, dare I say it, SCIENTIST AND SCHOLAR? On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Jojo Iznart

Re: [Vo]:global warming?

ehh, no, that one is fair. Some guys got caught fudging numbers. it happens, sadly. On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: If it's all about science and scholarship then why did the IPCC get caught fraudulently

Re: [Vo]:Sintered Aluminia

not. it still ignores the fact that the transmitted light was more than the power coming in. On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe stefan.ita...@gmail.com wrote: I find GoatGuy's comment interesting, how valid is his objection?

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

No, its very laughable. He uses phrases like, well know that. as in, we should all know this. but... he gives no sources, no numbers, and has failed to notice that there are DIFFERENT types of sintered alumina, some of which are DESIGNED to be transparent (sapphire shielding), and some which

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

to get to the nickel powder. An infrared insulator is not good reactor design. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:19 PM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: No, its very laughable. He uses phrases like, well know that. as in, we should all know this. but... he gives no sources, no numbers, and has

Re: [Vo]:The scientific method

*The Way It Is* Standing in line, marking time Waiting for the welfare dime 'Cause they can't buy a job The man in the silk suit hurries by As he catches the poor old lady's eyes Just for fun he says, Get a job. That's just the way it is Some things will never change That's just the way it is

Re: [Vo]:Orbital Science Rocket- Explodes...6:22 PM

oh god.. the live video of it burning on the pad is still streaming. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Vortex-L, Rockets..a bad track recordand a bad technology: http://www.space.com/17933-nasa-television-webcasts-live-space-tv.html Ad

Re: [Vo]:Exhaled Pounds: How Fat Leaves the Body

that.. makes perfect sense, but I never thought about it. I wonder if... hmm. Aerobic exercise that increases oxygen brought into the body is generally considered better for losing fat, and people with nasal issues that lower oxygen intake often are larger. I wonder if low oxygen levels tie

Re: [Vo]:Looking for feedback on a BLP POC disagreement

The issue here is that no matter what the science says, and what the experiment shows, ramping up an effect to a usable product is never certain, and lots of REALLY useful known facts fall apart when you try to make a product out of them. This is why we MAKE proof of concepts. Not to prove the

Re: [Vo]:Re: QM rant

*Experimental evidence always trumps theory.* *I need that on a bumpersticker. * On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:19 AM, pjvannoor...@caiway.nl wrote: Hello Stefan I couldnt agree more with what you say. It is really strange that almost nobody is looking into the theory of R.Mills. I

Re: [Vo]:Why are there still so many jobs?

! On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:44 PM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: blaze, if not for the overhead eating efficiency created by mass building, those things wouldn't exist. and the jobs you are describing are a SMALL fraction of the jobs available, and the ones Joe is listing the vast

Re: [Vo]:Why are there still so many jobs?

blaze, if not for the overhead eating efficiency created by mass building, those things wouldn't exist. and the jobs you are describing are a SMALL fraction of the jobs available, and the ones Joe is listing the vast MAJORITY. On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Blaze Spinnaker

Re: [Vo]:Why are there still so many jobs?

Because a lot of things still require the human touch and cant be replaced by a robot. On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/08/04/why-are-there-still-so-many-jobs-the-case-for-the-persistence-of-middle-skill-employment/

Re: [Vo]:The quest for everlasting power

Personally, if i had the ability, inventing and creating new energy sources would BE the pleasures in my life. On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Why is Rossi spending the best part of the little life that he has remaining in a shipping container for 18 hours

Re: [Vo]:WIRED: Paradoxical Crystal Baffles Physicists

Interesting. You know, I would consider this an obvious one, but since they just figured it out through an Enh, why not moment... Has anyone tried measuring its normal conductivity while its under that magnetic field? On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Check

Re: [Vo]:The Ahmed Mohamed case and distrust of experts

They never claimed they thought it was a bomb. They KNEW it wasnt a bomb. They claim to have thought that he was trying to pass it off as a bomb to scare people. (which is even more assinine) On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > The Ahmed Mohamed case

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:[Vo]: Dallas Police’s ‘Bomb Robot’

you mean, drones? we already have them. On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > a.ashfield wrote: > > >> I would be surprised if the military are not working on robots designed >> to kill people. >> > > They would be remiss if they

Re: [Vo]:test

didnt get it. sorry. On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 9:14 PM William Beaty wrote: > test > >

[Vo]:Wing tip vortices of an owl

https://mobile.twitter.com/snake_flyer/status/1232176873481920513 BILL! check out the video, vortices off the wingtips of an owl in flight.

Re: [Vo]:Corona Virus

"seen from space" ugh. they dug two 300 foot trenches in an existing cemetery. a couple hundred graves, which matches existing numbers. no "pits" On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 9:42 AM JonesBeene wrote: > > > Here is a visual synopsis – burial trenches in Iran - large enough to be > seen from space

Re: [Vo]:Covid 19 from Wuhan BSL4

WASHINGTON — The Energy Department concluded with "low confidence" that the Covid-19 pandemic "likely" originated from a laboratory leak

Re: [Vo]:Covid 19 from Wuhan BSL4

basically like like saying P approaches 1. On Sun, Feb 26, 2023, 5:56 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > leaking pen wrote: > > WASHINGTON — The Energy Department concluded with "low confidence" that >> the Covid-19 pandemic >> <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/covid-1

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