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That's a good question Rich. I will have to review it. It may have only to do
with the elastic constant and the wave number. I am not sure if these systems
have a zero point orbit.
Very good question. I have no answer for now.
Frank Znidarsic
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Could be no location with an 866 area code.
866: Toll-free telephone service (see also 800, 822,
833, 844, 855, 877, 888, 880–882, 883–887,
and 889 in this list)
-Original Message-
From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
I have been trying to publish peer review articles for years. I have been
universally blocked. I thank IE and Amazon for helping to get my work out
there. I need to publish one good peer reviewed article. I had a peer
reviewed conference paper published but the peer reviewer (co-author)
Thank you for your interest Harvey. Parts of that video sequence have been
removed due to an image copyright complaint.
I do have good news, however, a peer reviewed journal of chemistry at Benham
has approved my paper for publication.
We will have to see how this goes. Someone may step
Yes indeed, thank you Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-textfield-keywords=%22znidarsic+science+books%22rh=n%3A133140011%2Ck%3A%22znidarsic+science+books%22
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l
About 2 years ago I purchased a lithium ion electric bike. I wanted to learn
about the technology and have fun. I learned abut the technology because
everything on the motor, bike, and drive broke down. I replaced, upgraded, and
beefed up everything that failed. The bike will now do 30
Thanks Terry.
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Jul 5, 2014 3:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:what is bluestar?
The mysterious partner:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/23/us-japan-panasonic-idUSBREA4M0DS20140523
On
http://pro.moneymappress.com/NVXTESLAMMP60NEW/PNVXQ520/?iris=218598h=true
Saw a brief comment about the flying saucer for mars aloft for 30 minutes. It
did not say if the propulsion was conventional.
Frank Znidarsic
How fast could cold fusion progress? I took a graphic picture of technological
change now in progress.
What was once of great value, like a projection TV, is now just junk.
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temp/TechnologyChange.jpg
enjoy
Frank Znidarsic
http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/2000
I don't know about that but I am back in the top 20 in sales of my book and
making progress slowly. I have followed my own path.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/digital-text/159789011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_kstore_1_6_last
Frank Z
-Original Message-
From: Roarty, Francis X
I met Martin Tjmar during one of my lectures.
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/movies/jhu.wmv
-Original Message-
From: David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Apr 13, 2014 8:57 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:anti-gravity
Thanks for the link Steve. I
They are doing it here in Western Pa and it seems to be working.
http://marcellusdrilling.com/2013/11/co2-instead-of-water-for-fracking-seriously/
Frank
I attended to a funeral two weeks ago. He was a veteran of WW2.
The bugle player was excellent. He played taps. Many cried.
I went to another funeral today. Taps were played again,the bugle
player sneezed and, the bugle kept on playing.
I asked about it, They are now using digital
see page 7
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aag/main/ref=olp_merch_name_2?ie=UTF8asin=1480270237isAmazonFulfilled=0seller=AOF27X3QXPO7Y
Frank
snip
produced via external pumping that keep the quasiparticle excited. Such pumping
can create remarkably high effective temperatures in a narrow spectral region
of the lowest energy states in a quasiparticle gas, resulting in strikingly
unexpected transitional dynamics of Bose–Einstein
Some in this list believe that spin coupling has a large impact upon the rate
of LENR activity and there may well be other magnetic interactions associated
with nano particles and their large local magnetic fields. I tend to think
that these couplings are a key concept that needs to be
Thats a common mistake. We cannot reduce the Coulomb barrier. The static
force fields are conserved and cannot be reduced in a two body problem. The
static force field can, however, be bypassed by a force with longer range.
The magnetic component of the strong nuclear force is called the spin
-Original Message-
From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Mar 25, 2014 1:00 pm
Subject: Fwd: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier
Nuclear physicists limit themselves to two bodied problems and don't seem to
understand collective motions.
Electrical
Imagine this. What if the magnetic component of the electromagnetic field was
ignored. We would VanderGraphs, Winhurst motors, and fur rupped rods emitting
jumping sparks. We would not have employed the very strong magnetic force. No
generators, motors, electromagnets, or speakers would
-
From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Mar 25, 2014 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic Barrier
Thats a common mistake. We cannot reduce the Coulomb barrier. The static
force fields are conserved and cannot be reduced in a two
under certain conditions.
They do not consider that it can be expelled from a condensate.
These are big omissions and the reason that they cannot understand cold fusion.
They are working with the wrong force.
Frank Z
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From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com
The barrier is still there. Its like a rabbit trying to get over you garden
fence. The barrier stops it. You just step over it because the length of your
step exceeds that of the barrier. Over you go, no thump. The ONLY way the
Coulomb barrier can be crossed without emitting radiation,the
Jed, I hope that they did not deep 6 you after all of the excellent work you
did. You said this may happen. If they did, you can send it somewhere else.
They are looking for papers like that in Scotland but its a bit to far to
travel to. I sent you a note on this also.
Frank
It's there and leaving the competition behind!
Go Jed!
-Original Message-
From: Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 1:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:FQXi essay contest
http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/2000
It's
I looked at this and came up with the source of electromagnetic inertia is the
acceleration of an energy flow.
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapter7.html
-Original Message-
From: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 5:42 pm
Special Relativity that came out of my analysis of cold fusion.
http://gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Essays/View/3900
Frank Z
I thought of that. Some bottles are wet inside. Water has a very high
dielectric constant.
Such a device would be a moisture detector.
What about different dielectric values different for the plastic? (or more
in-depth analysis dielectric hysteresis)
Maybe different
That's a nice cover. How did you make it?
Frank
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From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Plastic detector find
Thank you Alan G.
How?I really want to do this. I am lacking in my knowledge of digital
signal processing. What software? Once I process the signal how do I get a 1
or 0 out of my old computer? I used to know how to get out a one with C and
Basic. How do I get the two software
-
From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:09 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Plastic detector find
Thank you Alan G.
How?I really want to do this. I am lacking in my knowledge of digital
signal processing. What software? Once I process
Sorry about the rant but getting the 1 and 0 out of the computer brings back
bad memories.
I had an office/ plant computer on my office. I used to print out documents
and to print out data from a PLC, a PLC programmer, and local displays in the
plant. It was OK and I was happy with it. They
Thanks Alan.
I really still have a lot to learn. Its fun! Industrial products are the way
to go.
Today I'm going to turn over my #1 detector over to the dump owner. #5 false
signals should not be a problem since there are no #5 bottles. We shall see
how it goes in actual operation.
What book did you write?
I sold 3 books in February, but I found out one sale was my wife, does that
count?
I think more people are interested in watching Justin Beiber pee in a trash can.
-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l
I was at a Sheetz gas station and a woman approached me. She said she was in
the military and trying to get back to base. Someone stole her purse. She had
a check but they would not cash locally; it was good. Would I cash it for her?
If I had an account in a local bank it would be no
I am still working on my plastic detector. It can't discriminate between #1
and #5 plastic. The #5 plastic produces a rainbow of colors when placed
between two linear polarizes. The #1 does not. #1 randomizes the polarization
and the light path and becomes clear. The effect is dramatic. I
Here is video of the detector in operation. they are ready at the dump. I am
not, as I had promised, ready.
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temp/PlasticDetect.mp4
-Original Message-
From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:49
I voted for Obama and I listened to what he said. He said to start a small
business and hire someone. Its the thing to do after you have retired. I have
tried.
Cold fusion proved to be to hard of a nut for me to crack and I backed off.
I next built a cell phone adapter for older cars. I
Thank you Jones. I want to detect the bottles before they are shredded and
washed. All of the intact bottles float. They arrive dirty, crushed flat, and
with the labels on and off.
Large recyclers have methods to do this. These methods are expensive at
$100,000. There are a lot of small
Need Ideas. video linked below 3mb type mp4.
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temp/PlasticCir.mp4
Conditon #1 Two opposed circular polarizers block the light.
Condition #2 #1 PET plastic between the polarizers lets in the light. The
effect is dramatic and easily detectable.
I know. I am looking for a robust low cost solution. I have found that if you
look at the number #5 though a opposed circular polarizers you get an array of
colors with light and dark spots. ref the video. If you look at the same
plastic with the second circular polarizer reversed (+ for -)
Why don't you just read the code off the bottom of the bottle?
Thank you Terry. The bottles arrive crushed flat in the garbage truck.
I have to make another video of the reversing of the colors its neat.
I am still thinking and why not, its to cold to go outside.
Frank
Thank you Harry. The polarizing technique almost works. I don't need a robot.
A vacuum hose sucks up one bottle at a time from a bin. The vacuum in the
blocked hose retracts the hose. We then test it and spit it one way of the
other with another blast of air. Upon release of the bottle the
If I can't solve the world's energy problems perhaps I can help manage its
waste. Progress report on #1 plastic detector. Video linked below type mp4 5
MB.
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temp/PlasticDetect.mp4
Frank Znidarsic
The one that is giving me trouble is phi a circle with a line though it. This
is what Greek has:
φ Φ
They are not quite right. Here it is in symbol
font.
Φ
Frank
Thanks H Veeder. These characters do text in Kindle while the font symbol does
not. I updated my e book with these symbols and removed words like omega.
Frank
θ ω ε ρ τ ψ υ ι ο π α σ δ φ γ η ς κ λ ζ χ ξ ω β ν μ
Θ Ω Ε Ρ Τ Ψ Υ Ι Ο Π Α Σ Δ Φ Γ Η ς Κ Λ Ζ Χ Ξ Ω Β Ν Μ
Harry
This has been an enigma for me. There are Greek letters in the font symbol and
just plain Greek letters. I could never quite figure out what the difference
is. Kindle does not text symbol characters. That's been a problem. I will
try these.
Frank
I produced something like that from my model. My model taken to the extreme
states that electrons are rigid. One of my theorems is, Electrons do not
bounce. They cannot bounce their energy away and all wind up in the lowest
energy state. This is the root cause of Fermi statistics.
The
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temporary/Quack.wmv
Frank Z
I am still working at plastic bottle detection. I have found that #1 soda
bottle plastic has a strong resonance at tera hertz frequencies.
J. Beene stated that this was useful. Another nice property is that #1
plastic is transparent to optical light.
#1 plastic is not good at letting in
I am working with my friend Howard Walker. He is in the junk plastic business.
The plastic bottles are worth 12 cents a pound in bulk. If separated into
1,2,3,4 and 5 the plastic is worth 24 cents a pound.
I found that #1 the clear coke bottle plastic if opaque to mid infrared. I
blocks a
Thank you Axil. We only want to do plastic bottles.
There is a company that does this in the mid IR but I believe crushed up dirty
bottles may confuse it.
The ratio to mid IR to blue light is really profound with the #1 soda bottles
and the
#2 milk bottles. I was surprised how well those
I don't have any poloriod. If you do, please look at the plastic transmission
through poloroid let me know what happens. How do the plastics react to
poloroid light?
Frank Znidarsic
a rf stimulation of 5-30 THz
Forget about the cracks, hydrinos, and the like. My Constants of the Motion
theory told of this in 1998, Now add the size and get the velocity 1,094,000
meters per second. I presented the theory at a meeting of the American Nuclear
Society in 2000. That's a
, and Antigravity
Frank Znidarsic
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From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:53 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:NASA Bushnell quote on 5-30 THz stimulation for LENR
a rf stimulation of 5-30 THz
Forget about the cracks
very cheep paperback,Energy, Cold Fusion, and Antigravity
Frank Znidarsic
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From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jan 28, 2014 10:53 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:NASA Bushnell quote on 5-30 THz stimulation for LENR
a rf
I have had a different experience than a nuclear engineer.
When I was just out of high school I was building unlicensed radio
transmitters. I had an old radio with a tuning eye. I had one transmitter
that when I turned it all the radio's eye wrapped twice around. I got scared
and gave it
I don't know if anyone is now interested in this. Its old stuff. If you watch
Walter Lewin at MIT Academic Earth
he says often the the magnetic force is non-conservative.
Energy and momentum are conserved in equations. No one ever wrote an equation
that conserves magnetic flux. This just
He could not put the book down. What would you expect, is it not a book about
antigravity?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A1YHIGP67NX9UO/ref=cm_cr_pr_auth_rev?ie=UTF8sort_by=MostRecentReview
Frank Z
The inside of a carbonnanotube would seem to favor a single line of dense
hydrogen.
Low level nuclear reactions work with atomic hydrogen. Atomic hydrogen is
stored in a proton conductor.
Carbon nano-tubes store molecular hydrogen.
Frank
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene
Hydrinos, shmeamos. Jones is on the right track with his energy coherence.
Exaggerated claims do not attract me. Mill's device is a million times hotter
than fire! That would place the temp at 3 billion degrees. That would be
hotter than a Tokamak. I uses very hot hydrodynamics. What
Also the hydrino reaction is much more energetic ( 200x).
So then where are the X-rays?
-Original Message-
From: P.J van Noorden pjvannoor...@caiway.nl
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Jan 25, 2014 6:48 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Understandin BLP: Chapter 3
Frank,
You
Oh I was not there.
Very interesting. Can such a device convert terahertz radiation into DC power?
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:31 am
Subject: [Vo]:MHD- from Russia with Love...
Speaking of intentional deception in a
Brilliant work Jones.
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Jan 19, 2014 10:47 am
Subject: [Vo]:Triple Coherency
About 7 years ago here on Vortex - before the plasmon/polariton technology
was being spread around cyberspace
Yes, when the group velocity of the dissolved protons = 1 million meters per
second magic happens.
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Jan 19, 2014 1:34 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Triple Coherency
Thanks Frank … and BTW– for
No have seen pictures of Alkena the beautiful alien on the internet. I would
like to meet her.
Does that nullify my aliens farting through a wormhole induced by coherent
EMF theory of cold fusion?
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From: torulf.greek torulf.gr...@bredband.net
To: vortex-l
http://phys.org/news/2014-01-instance-ball-lightning-captured-video.html#ajTabs
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Sent: Fri, Jan 17, 2014 1:46 pm
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To view this email as a web page, gohere
If they put 1,200 amps in at lets say 100 volts that is 120 KW. Its is an
electrical fault. I seen this action and yes it will explode.
There device is not sold state. LENR is a sold state reaction. I am not
convinced.
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From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
At the bottom of my web page there is a table. The web page reads your
browsers time zone and language and presents this info on a table. I can tell
something about the readers. It then goes on to check what chapters they have
read. This has been up for many years. It used to get the data
Message-
From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Jan 12, 2014 10:06 am
Subject: get your cookie read
At the bottom of my web page there is a table. The web page reads your
browsers time zone and language and presents this info on a table. I can tell
Here is how the special link works. If you pick the link below it extracts
the name after the ? mark. In this case it is Vortex_Demo. That name is
presented on the table at the bottom of my web page. If I post a link to a
blog I can then tell if anyone has picked the link.
to do this. The
name after the ? mark will come up on the blog.
http://www.amazon.com/COMPUTER-PROJECT-Znidarsic-Science-Books-ebook/dp/B00HQ79JPC/ref=sr_1_3?s=digital-textie=UTF8qid=1389541701sr=1-3keywords=%22znidarsic+science+books%22
Frank
-Original Message-
From: fznidarsic
Thanks for the HI Frank on my web page monitoring system. I have added a short
chapter to my book Computer Project. It tells how to put data after the
question mark. A HTML form normally sends data to a Perl script after a
question mark. This data can also be manually sent to the Perl
I have read the file several more times and I believe that all of the errors
are out. The cover is nice. I have released rev 0.
http://www.amazon.com/COMPUTER-PROJECT-Znidarsic-Science-Books-ebook/dp/B00HQ79JPC/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-textie=UTF8qid=1389107308sr=1-1keywords=computer+project
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Frank Znidarsic
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/02/isaac-asimov-2014_n_4530785.html
What do you see?
Frank Z
They are building a giant drone Zepplin here in Johnstown. It will be tethered
and fly at 20,000 feet. The other parts will be built in Texas. The
technology is classified. What next?
Frank
-Original Message-
From: Chris Zell chrisz...@wetmtv.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Maybe it will hold a death ray. Such a thing was predicted 75 years ago.
-Original Message-
From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Jan 2, 2014 5:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC? Goodyear blimps to be replaced with zeppelins
They are building
I don't know Jed. The details are unknown to me. Why bother building such a
thing? As the found out in WWI they are extremely vulnerable. Satellites are
better and more secure.
That is quite a long tether! I wonder what it is made of.
That's good question also.
Frank
Jan 2 to 4th free promotion of Electronic Project
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Computer Project will not be ready for at least 40 days. Energy, Cold
, however, I cannot be happy without her.
Frank
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From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com; rvargo1062 rvargo1...@yahoo.com;
acgravity acgrav...@gmail.com; mldaisley mldais...@yahoo.com; pjgonwa
pjgo...@msn.com; stevek ste
I learned how to write books in order to bypass journal editors. Now, with
this knowledge, I am writing books in other fields. I hope to sell a few.
The introduction to my next book, of course, it is technical.
Do you already know how to build client side HTML webpages? You have never
I am doing my share to help cold fusion.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/digital-text/159789011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_kstore_1_6_last#1
Frank Znidarsic
My book Electronics Project will be free on Kindle from the 2d to the 4th of
Jan 2014.
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enjoy
Frank Znidarsic
The same will be true for the many math based quantum mechanical versions of
reality. That is why LENR is so important. It can be used to select the proper
mathematical interpretation of reality.
I agree. I noted a velocity in cold fusion and gravitational experiments.
1,094,000 meters
I wrote a book on physics Energy Cold Fusion and Antigravity.
I wrote another on electronics. It was just a test book.
Electrons Project build a hands free cell phone adapter.
They are selling OK.. I am surprised the Electronic Project book sells better
than the physics book. People want
Its me Frank Znidarsic. I learned a lot from my cold fusion hobby. The latest
spin off was how to write Books for Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-textfield-keywords=%22znidarsic+science+books%22rh=n%3A133140011%2Ck%3A%22znidarsic+science+books%22
Another interspersing story. I was doing some electrolytic cold fusion
experiments.
The anode dissolved and I got slop at the cathode. Not what I wanted. Where
did my anode go? Was it was a useless sloppy mess.?
A man approached me Howard. He wanted to extract metal from acid mine
My friend Howard who is in the garbage business wants to extract metals from
acid mine drainage. I don't think it is economic. The DEP may require him to
completely clean up the waste stream after partially cleaning it up while
extracting metals. This is a non starter.
Howard showed me
In short, if you can't even get in the ball park of white dwarf matter in
the lab, what chance in hell have you of even approaching muon catalysed
reaction rates?
snip
Yes, No chance at all for any kind of fusion, especially with heavy metals.
Forget about shrunken atoms, the heavy
to they have to go you say, 1.094,000 meters per second.
Frank
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From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 19, 2013 9:05 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]: White Dwarves
In short, if you can't even get in the ball park of white dwarf matter
I made a book blog by morphing the Tom Katz blog into a new blog. It took less
then 1 hr because the code was already developed. If I get a lot of crazy and
profane comments I will remove the blog. The book is selling OK so let's see
what comes it.
Below is what the spambots send you if you don't lock them out. It will crash
my blog. I don't believe the the bots are smart enough to read my password
prompt. Maybe they are. Lets see.
Frank Z
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