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Re: [Vo]:Directional quantization of an oscillatory magnetic dipole moment associated with a moment of inertia

[H Ucar]

"Only in a static field you can fix the tilt angle not the axes!!! of the
magnetic moment."

This also true for an oscillatory magnetic moment which can oscillate
spatially. The article only considers its time-average. Here is a video of
my early experiment where the orientation of a trapped magnet in air spans
a large space. This effect develops after one minute in this video:

https://youtu.be/oZ0y-a4lO0Y


On Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 20:23 Jürg Wyttenbach  wrote:

> We know since quiet a long time that QM's foundation is based on a lack of
> knowledge about the physical reality. Spin up/down has nothing to do with
> QM states, it's just a picture of the moment of measurement. All particles
> are up/down at the same time as the winding of flux is just a matter of
> definition. Only in a static field you can fix the tilt angle *not the
> axes!!! *of the magnetic moment.
>
> J.W.
> On 13.07.2023 13:51, H Ucar wrote:
>
> This is the article related to a research that I made in early 2021 and
> recently submitted to a preprint server. The below comment summarizes the
> subject.
>
> Hamdi
>
> The Richtungsquantelung (directional quantization) hypothesis leads to the
> Stern-Gerlach experiment in 1922. This experiment shows that a silver atom
> sent with random orientation becomes polarized both in parallel and
> antiparallel orientation with respect to a magnetic field it traverses.
> This result caused serious difficulties within classical physics and shaped
> the emerging quantum mechanics. However in this article 
> (*https://doi.org/10.31219/osf.io/pkusx
> <https://doi.org/10.31219/osf.io/pkusx>*) titled "Directional
> quantization of an oscillatory magnetic dipole moment associated with a
> moment of inertia", it is shown that a similar result can obtained within
> classical physics if one performs such an experiment with a magnet having
> oscillatory dipole with asymmetry (for example an electromagnet driven by
> an AC but having a DC bias) instead of a permanent magnet. This dual
> alignment behavior is explained with Landau’s Effective Potential model
> which is also used in the Kapitza pendulum (inverted pendulum). This result
> leads to the question whether half spin particles can have rapidly
> oscillating magnetic moments while we are only aware of their time averages.
>
> --
> Jürg Wyttenbach
> Bifangstr. 22
> 8910 Affoltern am Albis
>
> +41 44 760 14 18
> +41 79 246 36 06
>
>

[Vo]:Directional quantization of an oscillatory magnetic dipole moment associated with a moment of inertia

[H Ucar]

This is the article related to a research that I made in early 2021 and
recently submitted to a preprint server. The below comment summarizes the
subject.

Hamdi

The Richtungsquantelung (directional quantization) hypothesis leads to the
Stern-Gerlach experiment in 1922. This experiment shows that a silver atom
sent with random orientation becomes polarized both in parallel and
antiparallel orientation with respect to a magnetic field it traverses.
This result caused serious difficulties within classical physics and shaped
the emerging quantum mechanics. However in this article
(*https://doi.org/10.31219/osf.io/pkusx
*) titled "Directional quantization
of an oscillatory magnetic dipole moment associated with a moment of
inertia", it is shown that a similar result can obtained within classical
physics if one performs such an experiment with a magnet having oscillatory
dipole with asymmetry (for example an electromagnet driven by an AC but
having a DC bias) instead of a permanent magnet. This dual alignment
behavior is explained with Landau’s Effective Potential model which is also
used in the Kapitza pendulum (inverted pendulum). This result leads to the
question whether half spin particles can have rapidly oscillating magnetic
moments while we are only aware of their time averages.

[Vo]:Magnetically chained bodies using rotating fields

[H Ucar]

I recently realized setups where two magnetic bodies are held in air
chained manner. However the middle body is an arrangement of two dipole
magnets and a steel piece instead of a single magnet. Anyway this is the
first time two magnetic bodies having full degrees of freedom get bound by
the help of an external rotating field and the gravity.

http://twitter.com/Sudanamaru1/status/1625620233204408335

http://twitter.com/Sudanamaru1/status/1627753330016456715

http://youtu.be/FTV4tipMSSA

http://youtube.com/shorts/fmpipkqubCs

The Twitter channel also has some threads explaining the effect and giving
details.

Hamdi

Re: [Vo]:SARS-Cov-2 Origin

[H Ucar]

This is evident now since no animal ever found in the wild carrying the
original strain or its ancestor.

Even though the release can be accidental, its spread to the world was
intentional. It is too bad that a government  cooperated with a parazite.

On Sat, Dec 3, 2022, 22:45 Terry Blanton  wrote:

>
> https://nypost.com/2022/12/03/scientist-who-worked-at-wuhan-lab-says-covid-man-made-virus/
>

[Vo]:Frequently asked questions about the magnetic levitation / trapping solutions based on the effect called polarity free magnetic repulsion

[H Ucar]

A FAQ about the effect which permits to keep/trap magnets in air using
rotating magnetic fields without resorting to equations and using familiar
terms of physics is available.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m9GDsITBT5XspQi6Y0Ff7ks3xzA4ffGK/view


Hamdi

[Vo]:Live test of Yildiz motor

[H Ucar]

Tests may start within hours.

Live video stream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikP6n0YYG-A

There are some information on this test at https://www.dambros.com/en/

Re: [Vo]:Non polar magnetic repulsion

[H Ucar]

On the other videos I recall, angular phase of the magnets are fixed to the
axial displacement through the gearbox.

It is too bad that inventors locks them selves into patents and monetary
deals. More than year ago I was on a big invention exhibition at istanbul
where I meet M. Yildiz and watched his motor running for two hours. There
is no doubt about it. In their recent announcement they said they are in
production and they would not accepts new orders until 2018, July. A
problem with such a high power motor is fixing the magnets (not the
demagnetization). Due to impulsive forces magnet can melt plastic housings,
Al is better but even a numbers of fixing screws may not suffice for long
periods.



On Mar 10, 2017 20:24, "Jones Beene" <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:


 H Ucar wrote:

> Here is the video of the experiment https://youtu.be/ZofshixkMg4 , which
> I first observed the non-polar repulsion and gave the sign of possibility
> of levtation / bound state.
>

It is no wonder from watching phenomena like this, that the idea of a
self-powering magnetic motor is one which will probably never die. Many
have come close and are still trying - but the issue of demagnetization is
always there.

Here is another effort that is very alluring and advanced in its
implementation, but alas, may not be the answer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWggsnpEk_s=1

Re: [Vo]:Non polar magnetic repulsion

[H Ucar]

Demonstrated non-polar repulsion can be perfectly explained by classical
physics. I don't see any arguments here to involve explicitely Boscovich's
theory. BTW, a nice article dated 1957, "Boscovich and Particle Theory"
written by L. L. WHYTE can be read from

http://www.nature.com.sci-hub.bz/nature/journal/v179/n4554/abs/179284a0.html




On Mar 9, 2017 16:33, "ROGER ANDERTON" <r.j.ander...@btinternet.com> wrote:


>>If we understand the mechanism of the repulsion between particles...

again with things that are consequences of Boscovich's theory published
1758. The doctrine of atomism led to Boscovich's point-particles, where
since there was no contact between particles everything had to be explained
by fields of attractive and repulsive forces. Basis of modern atomic
physics and unified field theory.

talks on unified field theory at: http://unifiedfieldtheory.co.uk/





On Thursday, 9 March 2017, 10:50, H Ucar <jjam...@gmail.com> wrote:


If we understand the mechanism of the repulsion between particles may we
can find smarter way to overcome. About two years ago I observed a rotating
magnet, dipole revolving on the rotation plane repels another dipole magnet
regardless its orientation. Despite being a simple phenomenon, it doesn't
take place in textbooks, even in the literature, at least in a way that I
can understand. Bound states that I obtained between magnets are based on
this effect. On the other hand the mechanical version of the stability case
(is known as Inverted Pendulum and is based to Mathieu/Hill's equation. In
1974,  van der Heide discovered a magnetic counterpart of the inverted
pendulum "Stabilization by oscillation", Philips tech. Rev. 34, 61-72,
1974, No. 2/3, although the demonstation involves quadrupolar magnet and
can not be interpreted as bound state (article do not mentions too). Here
is the video of the experiment https://youtu.be/ZofshixkMg4 , which I first
observed the non-polar repulsion and gave the sign of possibility of
levtation / bound state.

As the bound state obtained this way is mainly kinetic (rather than
static), there are many way to disturb it, resulting in breaking it apart
or collapse. Interestingly, kinetic energy of the system can be higher than
the total kinetic energy of the unbounded components, a case expressed as
positive binding energy. This condition arose when a resonance build up in
some parts, and mostly destroy the stability but they are cases the bound
state kept alive.

In, now the abandoned idea of neutron as composite of p and e, its mass
exceeds the total of p and e, suggests positive binding energy. May the
instability/beta decay can be explained this way. Barut had theoreticized
nuclear forces by magnetic/electromagnetic interactions, bound state of
permanent magnets may fit in this if presence of rotational/oscillatory
magnetic fields can be proved within nucleons.

Looking to elastic p - e- and p - e+ scatterings, they are similar (by a
brief examination), which can be expected if the interaction is in magnetic
nature. From point of view of my scattering experiment, polarization of
protons may have importance rather than electron (positron) polarization.
It would be interesting to observe the difference of unpolarized and
polarized electrons in different energies of the electron beam on
scattering experiments. Enough speculations for now.

[Vo]:Non polar magnetic repulsion

[H Ucar]

If we understand the mechanism of the repulsion between particles may we
can find smarter way to overcome. About two years ago I observed a rotating
magnet, dipole revolving on the rotation plane repels another dipole magnet
regardless its orientation. Despite being a simple phenomenon, it doesn't
take place in textbooks, even in the literature, at least in a way that I
can understand. Bound states that I obtained between magnets are based on
this effect. On the other hand the mechanical version of the stability case
(is known as Inverted Pendulum and is based to Mathieu/Hill's equation. In
1974,  van der Heide discovered a magnetic counterpart of the inverted
pendulum "Stabilization by oscillation", Philips tech. Rev. 34, 61-72,
1974, No. 2/3, although the demonstation involves quadrupolar magnet and
can not be interpreted as bound state (article do not mentions too). Here
is the video of the experiment https://youtu.be/ZofshixkMg4 , which I first
observed the non-polar repulsion and gave the sign of possibility of
levtation / bound state.

As the bound state obtained this way is mainly kinetic (rather than
static), there are many way to disturb it, resulting in breaking it apart
or collapse. Interestingly, kinetic energy of the system can be higher than
the total kinetic energy of the unbounded components, a case expressed as
positive binding energy. This condition arose when a resonance build up in
some parts, and mostly destroy the stability but they are cases the bound
state kept alive.

In, now the abandoned idea of neutron as composite of p and e, its mass
exceeds the total of p and e, suggests positive binding energy. May the
instability/beta decay can be explained this way. Barut had theoreticized
nuclear forces by magnetic/electromagnetic interactions, bound state of
permanent magnets may fit in this if presence of rotational/oscillatory
magnetic fields can be proved within nucleons.

Looking to elastic p - e- and p - e+ scatterings, they are similar (by a
brief examination), which can be expected if the interaction is in magnetic
nature. From point of view of my scattering experiment, polarization of
protons may have importance rather than electron (positron) polarization.
It would be interesting to observe the difference of unpolarized and
polarized electrons in different energies of the electron beam on
scattering experiments. Enough speculations for now.

Re: [Vo]:The borderline between hot and cold fusion

[H Ucar]

On Mar 5, 2017 22:32, "Jones Beene"  wrote:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0009261417301641

This is an interesting abstract - "Quantum controlled fusion." It concerns
hot fusion done on an extremely small scale using a laser, about the same
footprint as the Holmlid work. In fact it is very similar to Holmlid in a
lot of ways but they expect hot fusion. Holmlid apparently gets muons and
some hot fusion but mostly muons.

The paper is behind a pay wall. [snip]

Almost any paper can be downloded from Sci-Hub
(have mirrors too)

http://dx.doi.org.sci-hub.bz/10.1016/j.cplett.2017.02.045

[Vo]:Tresino, EZBW, Barut, h and bound state of spinning magnets

[H Ucar]

You may be aware of tresino model of F. J. Mayer which have similar energy
figures of hydrino. This model depends purely to electrostatic and
magnetostatic equilibrium, workable on 1D but likely unstable under more
degrees of freedom that Earnshaw theorem do not permit such a equilibrium
but here is still a possibility due to angular momentum of electrons (or
spin) may provide the angular stabilization like Levitron but unlikely to
tolerate disturbances. The article does not evaluate such criteria and only
give equilibrium in one axis. On the other hand, bound state based purely
on magnetic interaction on fermi distances inside nucleons (where Coulomb
forces can be safely ignored in presence of very large magnetic
interaction) or on combined attractive Coulomb forces and repulsive
magnetic interaction in presence of proposable rotating or oscillation
magnetic field provided by involved particles (see my exeriments at
www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3KwdWTgl7fisd3h_tK1YLhFeuzkPATNt).
The latter can be formed in Compton wavelenth scale similar to tresino.
There is also a general model based on angular oscillation of electron spin
called Extended Zitterbewegung (EZBW) proposed by A. Niehous which open a
possibility to explain quantum behavior of particles by classical mean.
Indeed quantum mechanics definition of spin (as z and x,y components)
allows stochastic interpretations. All is remaining is experimental
evidence. If provided, Barut's hypothesizes on unification of nuclear
forces on electromagnetism and building all particles from electron, proton
and neutrino would be realized.This open also the way to explain full
quantum phenomena classically. A newly submited paper on arxiv.org "Derivation
of Schrödinger’s equation (https://arxiv.org/abs/1702.01880) formulates the
Planck's constant with this comment:
>From (58) it follows that the Planck constant is not a fundamental physical
constant, but rather a random variable which may be expressed in terms of
more basic parameters of a stationary stochastic process.

It would be nice that appearance of h in all formulas of physics would make
sense according this.

A note about bound states I obtained is they are highly stable under
disturbing effects most of time but some 'bad' resonances can kill them.

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Greek version of Rossi on PBS

[H Ucar]

It is John Kanzius (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kanzius) first
reported to split water with RF. Otoh, I think I did it at 1996 with self
resonating coil circuit (Bipeg) to split the water in air having high
humidity and produced ozone as by product. Fields of the coil have rich
harmonics and now known to produce evanescent waves (near fields). Such a
combination make it little hazardous like ionization radiation.


On Dec 29, 2016 18:11, "Jones Beene"  wrote:

Frank,

The voice in the video is Stefan Hartmann who is German. He has an online
blog where... IIRC... he says that there are two GHz frequencies used in
the range of 150 GHz.

The implication is that that the lower frequency waves from the two sources
interact via interference to produce other harmonics including terahertz.

Frank Znidarsic wrote:

This video said microwaves.  The other said terahertz radiation.  I noticed
that the hydrogen burned.  When water is split hydrogen and oxygen are
produced.  This mixture explodes with a poping noise.  For the combustion
that the video shows the oxygen must have been be removed from the gas
stream.  This may have been done as the oxygen consumed the aluminum.  This
supports Jones claim that the consumption of aluminum produces the energy.


-Original Message-
From: Frank Znidarsic

He says he is using Terahertz radiation.  I has a frequency that is orders
of magnitude higher than microwave.  That's the frequency of nano-meter
cold fusion operation.  He does not state how he produces the terahertz
radiation.

Frank


-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene

Terry,
Here is a video of an older device, showing the basic setup - curiously
using microwaves. The amount of gas is indeed impressive but there is no
valid proof or even raw data to show that it could be anomalous.
Plus- he is not being clear that there is a metal electrode - which is
almost certainly consumed as water is split. He seems to be in denial of
that part.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE6k5eOJ4e8

 Terry Blanton wrote:


Jones Beene wrote:

> PETROS ZOGRAFOS is a Greek inventor who claims to split water in a way to
> get more energy out than was put into the system.


Transcript:

http://www.off-grid.net/power-tap-water/

Re: [Vo]:Inside tiny tubes, water turns solid when it should be boiling

[H Ucar]

This would be interesting from calorific point of view. If it is possible
to boost or disturb the phase change process fast enough this can be work
as a heat pump.

Re: [Vo]:Abstract of new Holmlid paper

[H Ucar]

Paper is available from http://sci-hub.bz/10.1142/S0218301316500853

On Oct 25, 2016 10:19, "Axil Axil"  wrote:

> Holmlid has also showed that the "Hole" theory of superconductivity is
> valid and this theory must now replace the current BCS theory.
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:
>
>> Paraphrased abstract of new Holmlid paper - Published 18 October 2016. It
>> is paraphrased since the original wording assumes familiarity with a long
>> string of earlier work.
>>
>> This would be the most important experimental work in all of physics
>> (including the over-hyped LHC experiments, etc.) IF IT WERE TO BE FULLY 
>> REPLICATED
>> by an independent, respected Lab. There is no high quality replication
>> to date. In fact, it is generally ignored.
>>
>> This work is a continuation of the line of research using a low powered
>> laser (yellow-green spectrum) to irradiate “ultra-dense hydrogen” or UDH
>> which has been formed and deposited* in situ* in a catalyst. Prior work
>> focused on dense deuterium; this is protium. Despite similarities this
>> active target is not the Mills hydrino, although there are similarities. The
>> catalyst is iron-oxide based.
>>
>> Kaons and pions are observed by their characteristic decay times of 12,
>> 52 and 26 ns after impact of relatively weak ns-long laser pulses, as
>> reported previously. Deflection of emitted particles in a weak magnetic
>> field or penetration through metal foils cannot distinguish between the (
>> supposed) decaying mesons. The signals observed are primarily not caused
>> by decay but by fast particles, often at >50MeV, formed in pion decay.
>>
>> The fast particles are concluded to be muons from their relatively small
>> magnetic deflection and strong penetration. This is further supported by
>> published studies on the direct observation of the beta decay of muons
>> in scintillators and solid converters.
>>
>
>

[Vo]:The principle of the mutual energy

[H Ucar]

This theory appears to contradict to basic facts, I wonder authors did found a 
phenomenon or application to leading it. Even this theory fits well to a 
phenomenon hard to explain it would be very useful.
For example in my past self resonant coil experiments very efficient energy 
transfer between two air coils at a distance does not fit to magnetic coupling 
working for transformers, nor to standard electromagnetic wave transmission 
despite of presence of substantial electric and magnetic fields. These fields 
are now known   as evanescent waves. May the coupling through evanescent waves 
have a similarity with the handshake described on this paper. 
OTH, I think self resonant coils (Tesla coils) could not be substituted by a LC 
tank. Coils can resonate in multiple frequencies at the same time and may cause 
some odd effects depending to waveshape and to geometry.
BTW, Imrecons appears specialized in computer tomography.
http://arxiv.org/abs/1606.08710

The principle of the mutual energy
Shuang-ren Zhao, Kevin Yang, Kang Yang, Xingang Yang and Xintie Yang∗ 
Imrecons Inc

Abstract
Many scientist do not agree the probability explanation of quantum mechanics. 
Einstein has said the God do not play dice. Advanced potential solution of 
Maxwell equations are not accept by most scientist. The reason of that is in 
the engineering it seems without advanced potential, everything still fine. We 
have proven if without advanced potential, it is not possible to satisfy the 
Maxwell
equations. We also shown that it is not the Poynting vector related energy 
current transferring energy in the space and it is the mutual energy really did 
that. A important result of the mutual energy theorem is that the advanced 
potential can suck energy from the transmitter. This sucked energy is equal to 
the energy received at the receiver. Hence a transmitter can not send any 
energy out without the receiver. The energy is transferred by the retarded 
potential together with an advanced potential. If the sucked energy is 
discrete, the summation of mutual energy current of the infinite background 
atoms or currents (which can be seen as receivers) is a random process. This 
means that the photon energy sent by the transmitter is actually grabbed by the 
receiver. Hence the photon from very beginning knows their destination which is 
the receiver applying the advanced potential to the transmitter. This receiver 
send advanced potential to the transmitter. This explanatio
 n also avoided the wave function collapse. We obtain the result the 
electromagnetic wave and photon are two concepts. Wave is the retarded 
potential and advanced potential and photon is a handshake process between 
receive and transmitter. The retarded potential first reached the receiver, 
cause the current in the receiver, the current of receiver send a advanced 
potential to the transmitter with a reversed time, in the same time, a photon 
minus-time-instantly runs from receiver to transmitter. In our normal feeling, 
the photon is still runs from the transmitter to the receiver with a positive 
time. Hence there is no any causality violation. The reason of light speed is 
also discussed.

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu - the newly discovered boson

[H Ucar]

Assuming the boson is made of e- and e+, their kinetic energy would be
equal to mass of the boson minus the pair. This condition might
prevent the anhilation which explain the absence of the gamma. About
e- e+ pairing different from positronium there is a paper of A. O.
Barut titled THE ELECTRON-POSITRON SYSTEM AT SHORT DISTANCES
available from http://library01.ictp.it.

On 5/29/16, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: H Ucar
>
> ... I had speculated about possibility of a bound state of e- and e+ at a
> short distance through magnetic interaction different from para/ortho
> positroniums and if the bond will be stable this would be a candidate for
> dark matter (WIMP).
>
>
> The lack of the characteristic gamma is the most problematic feature of this
> boson, and the same with Holmlid's muons. Why is it missing? Don Hotson had
> an answer - there is no real annihilation event. This explanation is moving
> into the EPO/Epola territory of Hotson/Simhony where the electron and
> positron are the actual makeup of the vacuum, and annihilation events are
> not favored and rare. It would be analogous to ordinary salt crystal
> lattices where ions oscillate in and out but do not convert substantial mass
> to energy when they neutralize into the crystal. But with epos, the
> "crystal" is the background state which is hidden from sensory perception.
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu - the newly discovered boson

[H Ucar]

Few weeks ago in a private mail I had speculated about possibility of
a bound state of e- and e+ at a short distance through magnetic
interaction different from para/ortho positroniums and if the bond
will be stable this would be a candidate for dark matter (WIMP).

The new boson has only 10^-14 second lifetime meanwhile authors wrote:
"Such a boson might be a good candidate for the rela-
tively light U(1)d gauge boson [2], or the light mediator
of the secluded WIMP dark matter scenario [3] or the
dark Z (Zd) suggested for explaining the muon anoma-
lous magnetic moment [5]. The coupling constant (ǫ
2) of the dark Z having a mass of 18 MeV is predicted to be in
the 10−6 range for explaining the g-2 anomaly [5], which
could fairly well explain the boson to γ-decay branching
ratio measured in the present work. The lifetime of the
boson with the above coupling strength is expected to be
in the order of 10−14 s [4]. This gives a flight distance of
about 30 µm in the present experiment, and would imply
a very sharp resonance (Γ ≈ 0.07 eV) in the future e+e−
scattering experiments."


On 5/26/16, Jones Beene  wrote:
> Imagine a previously unrecognized bosonic nuclear force, somewhat like a
> gluon - but which has an associated force which is "protophobic" meaning
> that it attracts and binds neutrons, and repels protons. By analogy - this
> new force acts like a magnet for neutrons and a diamagnet for protons.
>
> The new force/particle has received little attention . and since we are
> among the first to consider it in all its newfound glory, let's name it
> "neuglu" for the obvious reasons. It has a lot of mass-energy - nearly 17
> MeV, and possibly can provide the lost mass needed to account for the
> thermal gain seen in LENR.
>
> The neuglu-boson is thus a range force which can arise between neutrons and
> electrons or between small groups of low Z nuclei if the neutron alignment
> is correct, since the above description of "protophobia" is eliminates it
> from large nuclei. Even so, these groups must present exposed contact zones
> of only neutrons, and possibly it adds stability. Plus, it is not easy to
> account for why the neuglu boson has been completely unrecognized all these
> years - but if SLAC says is so, then I am not going to argue with SLAC.
>
> To continue, if neuglu is real and it can act between exposed neutrons when
> groups geometrically favorable, then it will be found in predictable
> circumstances. Such a particle would carry a force that acts over distances
> only several times the width of an atomic nucleus and could temporarily
> bind
> atoms like deuterium ***without fusion*** into agglomerations which mimic
> other atoms and provide excess energy on decay.
>
> Now, imagine a cluster of four deuterons arranged in a tetrahedron, such
> that all the four neutrons pointed inward to the focal point of the
> arrangement, where the neuglu boson is spatially active. The four protons
> point outward - giving a rather pronounced positive near field. We can call
> this species beryllium-8, and it is short lived, but ironically the neuglu
> may prohibit fusion. Yet, this isomer does not need to decay to alphas and
> may instead sequentially form and reform from only UDD.
>
> Moreover, other neuglu bound nuclei are possible which are longer-lived,
> including 10B, 12C, 14N, 16O. Thus - here is a prediction which will
> provide
> some falsifiability to the premise that neuglu can bind deuterons in a way
> that mimics low Z elements.
>
>
> --
> One way that the "fifth force" (or sixth, since the fifth force is already
> spoken for) could be relevant to LENR relates to Takahashi's TSC theory, or
> a revised version of it. This involves a Tetrahedral Symmetric Condensate .
> which, of course, has four vertices, or four active components - normally
> four deuterons. This is a very stable platonic solid form, and it can look
> very much like beryllium-8.
>
> This is sometimes called cluster fusion since more than two particles are
> involved. Four deuterons in the ultradense UDD state could react giving the
> fusion product or else the appearance of a 8Be atom which the Hungarians
> base everything on. If we want to go beyond Takahashi, fusion is NOT
> required -- merely the temporary formation of the tetrahedron, which has
> binding energy, followed by its energetic breakup back to deuterons -
> courtesy of the fifth force. Implied is asymmetry.
>
> That is one way to avoid the problem of lack of gamma radiation. Of course
> no one knows the expected ash, but if helium is found, then it is real
> cluster fusion - but this is highly unlikely IMO and otherwise, there would
> be a new type of gain based on 5th force dynamics.
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu - the newly discovered boson

[H Ucar]

This demonstation of 'correlated magnetic phenomenon' is not working
as explained. Obviously if magnets allowed to move freely they arrange
their positions for attraction only and they will stick. Otherwise
they had found a way to circumvent the Earnshaw theorem.

On 5/28/16, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: H Ucar
>
>> I experimentally show oscillatory magnetic interaction between dipole
>> bodies exhibits strong repulsion at short distance therefore provides
>> eqilibrium for the bound state in presence of attractive magnetic or
>> electric forces... This mechanism could be the origin of weak and strong
>> interactions without requiring new forces or glue particles Since the
>> bound states through magnetic interactions are fully dynamic, it might be
>> possible to disturb or break it easier than if based on static forces
>
>
> This is insightful - and I agree with the general conclusion despite the
> vast difference in scale, when moving from centimeters to angstroms. The
> same point is also made by the "correlated magnetic" phenomenon, in which
> "repel" and "attract" functions are coded into a single magnet, which does
> both depending on relative position.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POc32aioLFE
>
> The strong and weak force could be a similar situation - with the so-called
> 5th force being a relic of one or the other.
>
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu - the newly discovered boson

[H Ucar]

I'd experimentally showed (
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3KwdWTgl7fisd3h_tK1YLhFeuzkPATNt
) oscillatory magnetic interaction between dipole bodies exhibits
strong repulsion at short distance therefore provides eqilibrium for
the bound state in presence of attractive magnetic or electric forces.
This mechanism could be the origin of weak and strong interactions
without requiring new forces or glue particles. See 'Derivation of
strong and weak forces from magnetic interactions in quantum
electrodynamics (QED)'
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF01596194

(This link only allows to see the abstract and the first page free of charge)

Since the bound states through magnetic interactions are fully
dynamic, it might be possible to disturb or break it easier than if
they were based on static forces.


On 5/26/16, Jones Beene  wrote:
> Imagine a previously unrecognized bosonic nuclear force, somewhat like a
> gluon - but which has an associated force which is "protophobic" meaning
> that it attracts and binds neutrons, and repels protons. By analogy - this
> new force acts like a magnet for neutrons and a diamagnet for protons.
>
> The new force/particle has received little attention . and since we are
> among the first to consider it in all its newfound glory, let's name it
> "neuglu" for the obvious reasons. It has a lot of mass-energy - nearly 17
> MeV, and possibly can provide the lost mass needed to account for the
> thermal gain seen in LENR.
>
> The neuglu-boson is thus a range force which can arise between neutrons and
> electrons or between small groups of low Z nuclei if the neutron alignment
> is correct, since the above description of "protophobia" is eliminates it
> from large nuclei. Even so, these groups must present exposed contact zones
> of only neutrons, and possibly it adds stability. Plus, it is not easy to
> account for why the neuglu boson has been completely unrecognized all these
> years - but if SLAC says is so, then I am not going to argue with SLAC.
>
> To continue, if neuglu is real and it can act between exposed neutrons when
> groups geometrically favorable, then it will be found in predictable
> circumstances. Such a particle would carry a force that acts over distances
> only several times the width of an atomic nucleus and could temporarily
> bind
> atoms like deuterium ***without fusion*** into agglomerations which mimic
> other atoms and provide excess energy on decay.
>
> Now, imagine a cluster of four deuterons arranged in a tetrahedron, such
> that all the four neutrons pointed inward to the focal point of the
> arrangement, where the neuglu boson is spatially active. The four protons
> point outward - giving a rather pronounced positive near field. We can call
> this species beryllium-8, and it is short lived, but ironically the neuglu
> may prohibit fusion. Yet, this isomer does not need to decay to alphas and
> may instead sequentially form and reform from only UDD.
>
> Moreover, other neuglu bound nuclei are possible which are longer-lived,
> including 10B, 12C, 14N, 16O. Thus - here is a prediction which will
> provide
> some falsifiability to the premise that neuglu can bind deuterons in a way
> that mimics low Z elements.
>
>
> --
> One way that the "fifth force" (or sixth, since the fifth force is already
> spoken for) could be relevant to LENR relates to Takahashi's TSC theory, or
> a revised version of it. This involves a Tetrahedral Symmetric Condensate .
> which, of course, has four vertices, or four active components - normally
> four deuterons. This is a very stable platonic solid form, and it can look
> very much like beryllium-8.
>
> This is sometimes called cluster fusion since more than two particles are
> involved. Four deuterons in the ultradense UDD state could react giving the
> fusion product or else the appearance of a 8Be atom which the Hungarians
> base everything on. If we want to go beyond Takahashi, fusion is NOT
> required -- merely the temporary formation of the tetrahedron, which has
> binding energy, followed by its energetic breakup back to deuterons -
> courtesy of the fifth force. Implied is asymmetry.
>
> That is one way to avoid the problem of lack of gamma radiation. Of course
> no one knows the expected ash, but if helium is found, then it is real
> cluster fusion - but this is highly unlikely IMO and otherwise, there would
> be a new type of gain based on 5th force dynamics.
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Transparent glass like piece attracted by magnet

[H Ucar]

I hope these links to pictures of the item will work.
   https://goo.gl/photos/nPhqELc8WufQMen2A
   https://goo.gl/photos/oHn3eETYbzmPfpvx6   
   https://goo.gl/photos/71g3uqYPpddQAShv7

Re: [Vo]:Transparent glass like piece attracted by magnet

[H Ucar]

Working link for the image.
https://goo.gl/photos/nPhqELc8WufQMen2A


-- Original message--From: H UcarDate: Fri, May 6, 2016 22:00To: 
vortex-l@eskimo.com;Cc: Subject:[Vo]:Transparent glass like piece attracted by 
magnet

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNhhKH8uXidTN7sg6_dYlkVgfChaH-dXVB42oI0

I noticed this a 6mm length plastic or glass tiny piece has been sticked to a 
magnet dropped on the floor in my working room. Although some microscopic non 
transparent elements are present, I think they would not provide enough force 
to stick the piece to a N35 Nd magnet at distance of 1 cm. 
I have no idea about the origin of this piece. Only the dropped magnet has been 
broken less than 1 second ago.

[Vo]:Transparent glass like piece attracted by magnet

[H Ucar]

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNhhKH8uXidTN7sg6_dYlkVgfChaH-dXVB42oI0

I noticed this a 6mm length plastic or glass tiny piece has been sticked to a 
magnet dropped on the floor in my working room. Although some microscopic non 
transparent elements are present, I think they would not provide enough force 
to stick the piece to a N35 Nd magnet at distance of 1 cm. 
I have no idea about the origin of this piece. Only the dropped magnet has been 
broken less than 1 second ago.

[Vo]:Now we have almost complete set of spin locked bound states

[H Ucar]

Spinning dipole magnets can establish stable magnetic bound states. Such bound 
states require at least one magnet spinning out of its magnetic axis. In 
experiments, the base magnet (BM) is driven by a motor and spins in a fixed 
axis. The floating magnet, on the other hand have no fixed spin axis and have 
angular oscillation. When the FM obtains spin, its oscillation became complex 
and exhibits hypotrichoidal or epitrochoidal angular oscillations covering 
amplitudes up to 70 degrees. FM can also spin locks, where its spin get fixed 
to an integer ratio of BM spin. This spin locks can be obtained when it spins 
in same direction or in opposite direction of BM spin. Earlier ratios from 1/6 
to 1/2 has been obtained and now ratios of 1/1 and -1/1 are obtained, that is 
FM can have spin lock while spinning at same speed of BM in same and in 
opposite dieections. This provides a symmetry between FM and BM and open the 
possibility of two magnets having same oscillation and spin can be bo
 und having parallel or antiparallel spins respect to their magnetic moments 
under gravity free environment. The latest videos on my playlists shows the 1/1 
locked spin ratio under bound state.
Experiments show also the spin axis (time averaged vector) of FM could be 
aligned with BM spin axis or be angled up to 90 degrees depending to setups and 
to dynamic conditions.
I think these results can be useful to carry these dynamics in to models of 
particles having spin and magnetic moment. and to their interactions.
https://youtu.be/_2RCXAA3VC0

Playlist:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3KwdWTgl7fisd3h_tK1YLhFeuzkPATNt

Re: [Vo]:Obtained stable magnetic bound state of locked counter wise spinning of magnets

[H Ucar]

I have a recent discussion of physics forums on these experiments, rather 
informative, for whom is interested.
https://www.physicsforums.com/conversations/bound-states-of-spinning-magnets.80338/

Re: [Vo]:Obtained stable magnetic bound state of locked counter wise spinning of magnets

[H Ucar]

Apperently an direct interaction causing counterwise rotation which not consume 
energy conflict with COE. This is similar to a case of a motorcyle accelerate 
on a freely rotating circular  track causing the track rotate backward due to 
Newton's 3rd law. Even the motorcyle does not accelerates the air resistance is 
transmitted to the track by the wheels and continue to push it back. 



-- Original message--From: H UcarDate: Thu, Mar 24, 2016 23:23To: 
vortex-l@eskimo.com;Cc: Subject:Re: [Vo]:Obtained stable magnetic bound state 
of locked counter wise spinning of magnets

Counterwise rotation in this case is an anomaly from engineering point of view 
where there is no friction and no rigid constraints, altrough vibrations are 
sources of all sort  of weird things hard to model. For example rogue waves has 
been never predicted and still no good model exists. Even it may be a link 
between LENR and rogue wave mechanism.
BTW, I uploaded a video of another realization of this cw spinning experiment 
athttps://youtu.be/-XKbRrea-CA


-- Original message--From: Vibrator !Date: Wed, Mar 23, 2016 23:15To: 
vortex-l@eskimo.com;Cc: Subject:Re: [Vo]:Obtained stable magnetic bound state 
of locked counter wise spinning of magnets
Thanks for the updates and clarifications, i'd inferred incorrectly that the 
samples were only suspended from below and that the reason for posting was 
anomolous levitation... having now watched the series on YT everything's clear. 

If you followed the original whipmag discussions, i concluded that Al was 
cruelly playing OC (OverConfident was the original designer) - there were only 
two possibilities; either a hidden pulse coil or an inadvertent Orbo 
replication.  Neos have near-infinitessimal Sv, so it seems unlikely that the 
relative velocity between rotor and stator was high enough to be affected by 
the response freqs of the magents.  Others (including myself) tested identical 
magnet grades across wider speed ranges without detecting any anomalies.  This 
isn't a conclusive dismissal, but the likelihood that he had a passive temporal 
asymmetry (the only viable means of genuine energy gain) is IMHO almost nil.

Perhaps most tellingly, Al himself always denied OU, in spite of the 
acceleration, instead proffering nonsensical appeals to tribolectric effects, 
and other guff..  it is inarguable that gain occurred, he knows what energy is, 
so the absolute refusal to acknowedge OU can only be construed one way, as far 
as i'm concerned; it was a little chest-beating display to indulge his 
pathoskeptic humour.  OC sadly became terminally ill not long after, so i hope 
Al did the decent thing while he still had time..
  
The "gearwise" and "counter-gearwise" neologisms were about his only redeeming 
contributions, but having established himself as a manipulative cynic i 
wouldn't trust a further word out of his mouth...

But whatever the inspirations, you're obviously doing genuine work and taking 
things forward, with a neat tracking solution too!  I'll have to read up on 
your reasearch when i get time..


On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 3:29 AM, H Ucar <jjam...@gmail.com> wrote:
This is true if diametrically polarised magnets are placed side by side as 
gears. Al (of whipmag) termed this config as 'gearwise' and the case of magnets 
spinning in same direction as 'counter gearwise'. He hed obtained cgw with a 
composite magnet assembly apperently self running. I had obtained cgw with two 
diametrically polar. magnets and I recall I reported on vortex. But on this 
floating magnet setup magnets spin axes are nearly aligned so not simply a gear 
like mechanism.
>Vibrator ! Tue, 22 Mar 2016 17:08:37 -0700

>(ETA. counterclockwise synch is interesting and also easily replicable, at 
>least in diametrically magnetised rotors, Again though, if this is an axially 
>polarised levitation then this too is anomolous.  Have to say, everything's  
>pointing to diametric polarisation - alternatig fields, so Earnshaw doesn't 
>apply, but the combination of levitation and counter-rotation is still cool.. 
>would make for a neat executive toy..)
Yes, I think it is cool invention too, but more interested to me the 
applicability of this bound state mechanism in particle physics. See my eariler 
submissions in vortex on this subject.

Re: [Vo]:Obtained stable magnetic bound state of locked counter wise spinning of magnets

[H Ucar]

Counterwise rotation in this case is an anomaly from engineering point of view 
where there is no friction and no rigid constraints, altrough vibrations are 
sources of all sort  of weird things hard to model. For example rogue waves has 
been never predicted and still no good model exists. Even it may be a link 
between LENR and rogue wave mechanism.
BTW, I uploaded a video of another realization of this cw spinning experiment 
athttps://youtu.be/-XKbRrea-CA


-- Original message--From: Vibrator !Date: Wed, Mar 23, 2016 23:15To: 
vortex-l@eskimo.com;Cc: Subject:Re: [Vo]:Obtained stable magnetic bound state 
of locked counter wise spinning of magnets
Thanks for the updates and clarifications, i'd inferred incorrectly that the 
samples were only suspended from below and that the reason for posting was 
anomolous levitation... having now watched the series on YT everything's clear. 

If you followed the original whipmag discussions, i concluded that Al was 
cruelly playing OC (OverConfident was the original designer) - there were only 
two possibilities; either a hidden pulse coil or an inadvertent Orbo 
replication.  Neos have near-infinitessimal Sv, so it seems unlikely that the 
relative velocity between rotor and stator was high enough to be affected by 
the response freqs of the magents.  Others (including myself) tested identical 
magnet grades across wider speed ranges without detecting any anomalies.  This 
isn't a conclusive dismissal, but the likelihood that he had a passive temporal 
asymmetry (the only viable means of genuine energy gain) is IMHO almost nil.

Perhaps most tellingly, Al himself always denied OU, in spite of the 
acceleration, instead proffering nonsensical appeals to tribolectric effects, 
and other guff..  it is inarguable that gain occurred, he knows what energy is, 
so the absolute refusal to acknowedge OU can only be construed one way, as far 
as i'm concerned; it was a little chest-beating display to indulge his 
pathoskeptic humour.  OC sadly became terminally ill not long after, so i hope 
Al did the decent thing while he still had time..
  
The "gearwise" and "counter-gearwise" neologisms were about his only redeeming 
contributions, but having established himself as a manipulative cynic i 
wouldn't trust a further word out of his mouth...

But whatever the inspirations, you're obviously doing genuine work and taking 
things forward, with a neat tracking solution too!  I'll have to read up on 
your reasearch when i get time..


On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 3:29 AM, H Ucar <jjam...@gmail.com> wrote:
This is true if diametrically polarised magnets are placed side by side as 
gears. Al (of whipmag) termed this config as 'gearwise' and the case of magnets 
spinning in same direction as 'counter gearwise'. He hed obtained cgw with a 
composite magnet assembly apperently self running. I had obtained cgw with two 
diametrically polar. magnets and I recall I reported on vortex. But on this 
floating magnet setup magnets spin axes are nearly aligned so not simply a gear 
like mechanism.
>Vibrator ! Tue, 22 Mar 2016 17:08:37 -0700

>(ETA. counterclockwise synch is interesting and also easily replicable, at 
>least in diametrically magnetised rotors, Again though, if this is an axially 
>polarised levitation then this too is anomolous.  Have to say, everything's  
>pointing to diametric polarisation - alternatig fields, so Earnshaw doesn't 
>apply, but the combination of levitation and counter-rotation is still cool.. 
>would make for a neat executive toy..)
Yes, I think it is cool invention too, but more interested to me the 
applicability of this bound state mechanism in particle physics. See my eariler 
submissions in vortex on this subject.

Re: [Vo]:Obtained stable magnetic bound state of locked counter wise spinning of magnets

[H Ucar]

This is true if diametrically polarised magnets are placed side by side as 
gears. Al (of whipmag) termed this config as 'gearwise' and the case of magnets 
spinning in same direction as 'counter gearwise'. He hed obtained cgw with a 
composite magnet assembly apperently self running. I had obtained cgw with two 
diametrically polar. magnets and I recall I reported on vortex. But on this 
floating magnet setup magnets spin axes are nearly aligned so not simply a gear 
like mechanism.
>Vibrator ! Tue, 22 Mar 2016 17:08:37 -0700

>(ETA. counterclockwise synch is interesting and also easily replicable, at 
>least in diametrically magnetised rotors, Again though, if this is an axially 
>polarised levitation then this too is anomolous.  Have to say, everything's 
>pointing to diametric polarisation - alternatig fields, so Earnshaw doesn't 
>apply, but the combination of levitation and counter-rotation is still cool.. 
>would make for a neat executive toy..)
Yes, I think it is cool invention too, but more interested to me the 
applicability of this bound state mechanism in particle physics. See my eariler 
submissions in vortex on this subject.

Re: [Vo]:Obtained stable magnetic bound state of locked counter wise spinning of magnets

[H Ucar]

Photos attached. See my comments below.
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMlej_5bSpRg2fZ6KbaTD7RYmQ0cgvU1RXC9BpX

> Vibrator ! Tue, 22 Mar 2016 17:04:38 -0700

> What are the relative polarities - are they axially or diametrically 
> polarised (poles on opposite faces or same face)?

Both are axially polarized. Base magnet is disk D30x5 and two stacked D10x10.

> Assuming axial magnetisation and that both are common permanent magnets, the 
> floating weight is levitated by reuplsion in apparent defiance of Earnshaw's 
> theorem (since, per Faraday's paradox, the fields themselves are
effectively stationary).

There are both repulsion and attraction.Earnshaw's theo. does not apply because 
the base magnet dipole axis is not aligned to rotation axis, angle is close to 
85° and as you wrote it generate an alternative field. This allows a condition 
for Mathieu equation.
> If OTOH one or both magnets are diamterically (or otherwise off-axially) 
> polarised, then we have an alternating field and Earnshaw doesn't apply.

> If the former case is true, then are the magents a solid alloy type, or 
> sintered (ie. soft ferromagnets and NdFeB are usually sintered, the latter in 
> a chromed jacket)?  Since this may influence the types of EMFs that could be 
> generated.


Magnets are NdFeB grade N35 or lower. EMF or Eddies effects are negligible. 
This setup contains a static third magnet at top in order to support this long 
floating upright.See my YouTube page for detailed description:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3KwdWTgl7fisd3h_tK1YLhFeuzkPATNt
> Earnshaw also specifically applies to ferromagnetic (ie dipolar) interacatons 
> - if the system is complicated by paramagnetic or diamagnetic materials, 
> stable levitation is not precluded.

> More info would be interesting!

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:03 PM, H Ucar > wrote:

> That is while the base magnet attached to motor in a vertical axis
> spinning clockwise, the floating magnet in air keeps spinning counter
> clockwise in phase locked mode 1 cm above the base magnet. In order to
> obtain this mode the floating magnet is initially forced to spin counter
> wise using air jet. Once it gains enough speed it continues to spin by
> itself by the 'negative' torque from the base magnet.
>
> Note that the floating magnet spin axis have small angular oscillation
> locked to base magnet spin too.
>
>

[Vo]:Obtained stable magnetic bound state of locked counter wise spinning of magnets

[H Ucar]

That is while the base magnet attached to motor in a vertical axis spinning 
clockwise, the floating magnet in air keeps spinning counter clockwise in phase 
locked mode 1 cm above the base magnet. In order to obtain this mode the 
floating magnet is initially forced to spin counter wise using air jet. Once it 
gains enough speed it continues to spin by itself by the 'negative' torque from 
the base magnet.
Note that the floating magnet spin axis have small angular oscillation locked 
to base magnet spin too.

Re: [Vo]:Quantum Spin Liquids and Kagome Space-Time Structures Ron Kita

[H Ucar]

Posting again.
-- Original message--From: H UcarDate: Wed, Mar 16, 2016 22:17To: 
vortex-l@eskimo.com;Cc: Subject:Re: [Vo]:Quantum Spin Liquids and Kagome 
Space-Time Structures Ron Kita
Inordered spins state point out to possibilty of magnetic moment of 
particles have extra degrees of freedom which remain intact despite cooling.

Re: [Vo]:Quantum Spin Liquids and Kagome Space-Time Structures Ron Kita

[H Ucar]

Inordered spins state point out to possibilty of magnetic moment of particles 
have extra degrees of freedom which remain intact despite cooling.

[Vo]:Re: Declaration from Eindhoven University of Technology related to M. Yildiz magnet motor

[H Ucar]

Hi Robin,
"My comment is that I think it's powered by a resonant connection with the 
cyclotron radiation of the protons of the Van Allen belts. IOW Tesla's 
"wheelwork of nature", but that implies a limited amount of energy available 
world wide."

Mr. Yildiz had mentioned a gravitational anomaly when the motor run at 
excessive speed. I would not enter to details but if it is correct, the 
phenomenon would be even more strange. May flying machines of scifi movies 
would emerge in time.

[Vo]:Re: Declaration from Eindhoven University of Technology related to M. Yildiz magnet motor

[H Ucar]

a.ashfield wrote:

"With known science the only way it could work is by using up the potential 
energy of the permanent magnets"

I think the energy related to permanent magnets are overstated. A NdFeB magnet 
can be demagnetized easily by heating without a spectacular energy outcome. 
From entropic view this process could be even endothermic, the energy stored in 
magnet could be negative.
We may ask such a question in physics stackexchange.
I expect a detailed report from TU/e soon which contain power and energy 
figures.

[Vo]:Re: Declaration from Eindhoven University of Technology related to M. Yildiz magnet motor

[H Ucar]

It is a complex situation for sure. It took 6 years for such an document to be 
publicly available. It is a first in the history for a device of apparently a 
perpetual machine of the first kind! 
The motor I observed running at the convention is a 5 kW design but only one of 
four of magnetic rows is populated said Yildiz. He said the earlier prototype 
demonstated in 2012 and 2014 was destroyed due centrifugal forces at over speed 
like 6 RPM while testing it without load (remind me the fate of Roschin and 
Godin's generator). This one with 1/4 of magnets ran comfortably at 2280 RPM 
with negligible load for 3 hours until manually stopped. It appears the speed 
is not vary much with the load and tend to fluctuate by itself. Mr. Yildiz 
expected th speed will gradually increase to 4500 RPM but only icreased from 
2200 to 2280 in this run. Motor surface temperature was 34 Centigrade, not much 
different from environment. I measured 37 degrees inside through a hole looking 
to the rotor. I can say the source of the energy is not thermal, assuming it 
would be cooler otherwise.
Reliability can be a long term issue like loosening of screws which fix the 
magnets in place or metal ageing.  In 2014, while examining the patent I 
thought bearings of rotor could be problematic if conventional steel bearings 
are used and they can not work well under strong magnetic field and can do 
short circuit the possible homopolar induction. At the convention I asked the 
bearing issue and he said he removed the bearings completely and the rotor is 
floating and kept in place with magnets very rigidly. That is magnetic bearing 
but even magnetic bearings needs mechanical stabilization on axis direction. I 
don't know he circumvented the Ernshaw theorem or not.
I will not speculate on the working principle of the device but the Nd magnets 
are very strong and really high quality, said having strength of 15K Gauss 
which correspond to grade N52 - N54. With hundreds of magnets the stress 
created on rotor and and stator and in between can reach several tons. In the 
context of new physics, a tiny asymmetry exploited from this stress would 
provide enough torque. 
The main mechanical issue appears to keep magnets in place. I recall from an 
earlier conversation that plastic armatures used in eariler prototypes would 
subject to partial melting due by the heat produced by microscopic work there. 
Anyway these are engineering issues, not obstacle for observing the phenomenon.
H Ucar

Jones Beene wrote:
 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 06:05:29 -0700

It is not ignored. It is a complicated situation. There are NDAs.

 


Like LENR, the technology works on occasion, but not reliably.

 

 

 

From: H Ucar 

 

I did not expected that this issue would be totally ignored here. So 
reciprocally, don't blame acedemic community for their own ignorances.Sent from 
mobile

-- Original message--From: H UcarDate: Mon, Mar 14, 2016 12:34To: 
vortex-l@eskimo.com;Cc: Subject:Re: Declaration from Eindhoven University of 
Technology related to M. Yildiz magnet motor
I did not expected that this issue would be totally ignored here. So 
reciprocally, don't blame acedemic community for their own ignorances.


-- Original message--From: H UcarDate: Sat, Mar 5, 2016 21:36To: 
vortex-l@eskimo.com;Cc: Subject:Declaration from Eindhoven University of 
Technology related to M. Yildiz magnet motor
This is a serious achievement I think where TU/e wrote a declaration about 
Mumammer Yildiz magnet motor that state it runs and drives a load (without an 
input) and consists of plastic parts, magnets, fixing screws and a steel axis 
(shaft) and disks.
https://plus.google.com/104472960710595563193/posts/4LMQV3TzmvM

BTW, Mr. Yildiz has been at Istanbul Inventors Fair at 3-6 March 2016 where I 
visited his stand and witnessed starting of the motor, running about three 
hours and stopping it manually.
In contrast to internet community, engineers, academicians, business men and 
institutional top people who visited him in my presence there were not 
skeptical at all. Actually the stand was quite ordinary and the motor is 
running in a corner quietly and boring and Mr. Yildiz explains that the motor 
runs with the 'magnetic energy'.
It expected important disclosure in April 2016
H Ucar

[Vo]:Re: Declaration from Eindhoven University of Technology related to M. Yildiz magnet motor

[H Ucar]

I did not expected that this issue would be totally ignored here. So 
reciprocally, don't blame acedemic community for their own ignorances.


-- Original message--From: H UcarDate: Sat, Mar 5, 2016 21:36To: 
vortex-l@eskimo.com;Cc: Subject:Declaration from Eindhoven University of 
Technology related to M. Yildiz magnet motor
This is a serious achievement I think where TU/e wrote a declaration about 
Mumammer Yildiz magnet motor that state it runs and drives a load (without an 
input) and consists of plastic parts, magnets, fixing screws and a steel axis 
(shaft) and disks.
https://plus.google.com/104472960710595563193/posts/4LMQV3TzmvM

BTW, Mr. Yildiz has been at Istanbul Inventors Fair at 3-6 March 2016 where I 
visited his stand and witnessed starting of the motor, running about three 
hours and stopping it manually.
In contrast to internet community, engineers, academicians, business men and 
institutional top people who visited him in my presence there were not 
skeptical at all. Actually the stand was quite ordinary and the motor is 
running in a corner quietly and boring and Mr. Yildiz explains that the motor 
runs with the 'magnetic energy'.
It expected important disclosure in April 2016
H Ucar

[Vo]:Declaration from Eindhoven University of Technology related to M. Yildiz magnet motor

[H Ucar]

This is a serious achievement I think where TU/e wrote a declaration about 
Mumammer Yildiz magnet motor that state it runs and drives a load (without an 
input) and consists of plastic parts, magnets, fixing screws and a steel axis 
(shaft) and disks.
https://plus.google.com/104472960710595563193/posts/4LMQV3TzmvM

BTW, Mr. Yildiz has been at Istanbul Inventors Fair at 3-6 March 2016 where I 
visited his stand and witnessed starting of the motor, running about three 
hours and stopping it manually.
In contrast to internet community, engineers, academicians, business men and 
institutional top people who visited him in my presence there were not 
skeptical at all. Actually the stand was quite ordinary and the motor is 
running in a corner quietly and boring and Mr. Yildiz explains that the motor 
runs with the 'magnetic energy'.
It expected important disclosure in April 2016
H Ucar

[Vo]:Heating of iron rod at proximity of spinning magnet

[H Ucar]

I observed dramatic heating of iron/steel rods of 2-4 mm diameter at 5 to 10 mm 
distance to spinning Nd magnet of medium size above 8000 RPM (poles nearly 
ortogonal to spin axis) where strong attraction is present. Motor consumes 
extra 2-3 watts on this load. Heat can rise to 80 degrees C in less than a 
minute, I guess, enough to melt hot glue. One atypical thing is the hottest 
part is not the closest point to the spinning magnet, so far I observed. 
Similar rods made of non ferromagnetic metals are not heated and practically 
don't load the motor. Only large copper and Al blocks slow down the motor but 
heating is not apparent.
Any alternative explanation?

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

[H Ucar]

The paper of the event
https://dcc.ligo.org/public/0122/P150914/014/LIGO-P150914%3ADetection_of_GW150914.pdf
The event leaves no room for the GW was propagated other than c.

Re: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

[H Ucar]

Energy equivalent of three sun mass is dissipated as GW in 1/10 second and this 
energy appears not well absorbed by the universe. This is interesting from 
conservation of energy. If dissipation takes too much time there would be 
always a GW background noise which correspond to a energy density. Kind of dark 
energy. More realistic than ZPE. It wouldn't be surprised if somebody fill a 
patent to convert it to usable one. 

[Vo]:Magnets levitate above a superconductor: New properties of superconductors discovered

[H Ucar]

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/02/160204150916.htm


"In this study, we identify some unexpected alignment of the electrons -- a 
finding that is likely generic to the high temperature superconductors and in 
time may turn out be a key ingredient of the problem," said Professor Hawthorn.


Why electrons or paired ones would not establish bound states like the spinning 
magnets in my experiments and exhibit such alignments? As the article above 
highlights the Meissner efect, magnetism is likely involved.
The way of the bound state in my experiments, spinning magnets have room for 
making bounds simultaneously on both sides of the axis,  allowing chains.

Re: [Vo]:On Arxiv censorship

[H Ucar]

The energy of the blackhole would not be necessarily electromagnetic waves or 
e/m fields in static form, there are views where gravitation field has energy 
density, allowing a bh can be made of pure gravity! As gravitational field can 
"escape" from event horizon, the energy of the bh might be comfortably stored 
as finite gravity energy density without requiring singularity.

mixent Mon, 01 Feb 2016 12:55:43 -0800

In reply to  Eric Walker's message of Sun, 31 Jan 2016 22:44:19 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
>On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 5:40 PM, > wrote:
>
>BTW, as I have said before, black holes are empty. All matter is converted
>> to energy at or before the event horizon, and circulates as EM energy at
>> the event horizon, warping spacetime into a circle. ;)
>
>
>What kind of energy?


Photons.

Sent from mobile

[Vo]:Knots and LENR

[H Ucar]

Axil wrote:"Why should the quark be any different than the electron. The quark 
must also be a toroid made out of a knotted photon with fractional charge 
connected to its anti particle by a monopole field."


See Barut article at 
https://books.google.com.tr/books?id=P4jkBwAAQBAJ=PA344=PA344=a.o.+barut+lepton+and+quarks=bl=j-RawR3zV7=ve1Tu2arEQK2OLzjuGWm4vfTQe8=en=X=0ahUKEwiFvYHpr7vKAhXDJA8KHfP1DIIQ6AEISjAN#v=onepage=true
Barut suggested quarks could merely electrons and bound together (and neutinos) 
with very strong magnetic forces.
He wrote "We see that magnetic interactions at short distance have a very rich 
structure, manifestations like 'strong interactions', like the rich structure 
of particle physics itself."
I demonstrated that spinning dipole magnets get bounded in very rich 
oscillation modes, the key is magnetic dipole moments are not fixed in one 
direction but have angular oscillations.

[Vo]:My rejected submission to physicsforum cached by google

[H Ucar]

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jaAhYtZ0-Z0J:https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/intoducing-my-research-on-bound-states-between-magnetic-bodies.851512/%2Bmagnetic+spinning+magnet+bound+state=50=0=en&=clnk


After submitting it I saw it was locked for moderation for a long time then I 
found an surprising statement on forum FAQ and wrote to moderator below and the 
response, day after.

Hello

I read from FAQ that "It is not part of our mission to aid in the advancement 
of science, only in the understanding of science.". This way may my post would 
not meet PF policy. Please advise.

Yes, that is correct. The PF is not a place to develop new theories or propose 
new ideas. Sorry. You can find a suitable journal to submit your paper to, and 
if it is published in a mainstream refereed journal, then it can be discussed 
here.

Thanks for your understanding. 


IMO, science is not an ensemble of books to understand. In this regard the 
physicsforums does not deserve its name.
H Ucar 

[Vo]:quantum knots accomplished!

[H Ucar]

Full article is athttp://arxiv.org/abs/1512.08981
I understand that spins of atoms in condensate become arranged for a short time 
in this topology similar to a vortex.

Re: [Vo]:Epitrochoidal oscillations

[H Ucar]

No, it fly away with speed about 5 to 10 m/s from air without making a contact 
with anything. Recall the spinning base magnet have enough force to accelerate 
it, I am not sure the energy of spin of floating magnet contribute this action 
or not, but such high speed ejections mostly occur when floating magnet have 
large spin.
David Roberson wrote:Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:14:42 -0800

You say that the magnets fly away with high speed using the spin energy.  Does 
this outward linear motion occur after the magnet falls to the table and makes 
contact with it in some manner?  Otherwise one might expect the magnet to spin 
rapidly as it drops towards the tabletop with a modest amount of horizontal 
velocity.  Angular momentum and linear momentum should be orthogonal to each 
other.


Dave
Sent from mobile

RE: [Vo]:Epitrochoidal oscillations

[H Ucar]

The problem is possible requirement of strong interaction at short distance 
with forces of several tens of Newtons while still maintaining the delicate 
levitation/stability. I don't want to play with larger magnets because when 
they become unstabilized can fly away in random directions and when meet iron 
furniture, materials or other magnets it get damaged.They are expensive too, to 
trash them few of them in a session.

Lately I tried to find spin lock while spinning the floating magnet in opposing 
direction of the base magnet spin using compressed air. There was no problem on 
spinning up the magnet while floating but when it reach a critical high speed 
while seeking the lock, possibly a resonance happens (It can be seen a 
precession like motion for an instance) and the magnet fly away with high speed 
using the kinetic energy of its high spin.


Jones Beene wrote:

Tue, 19 Jan 2016 08:36:53 -0800

Very interesting. 


If there is any possibility of creating a macro self-powered effect using the 
interplay of magnets, selective application of torque, and gravity - such as 
often claimed with the infamous “magmo” designs which never quite get there … 
it will likely exploit hypotrochoidal geometry - instead of simple rotation.

[Vo]:Epitrochoidal oscillations

[H Ucar]

I did focused on angular oscillation paterns of floating magnets in my 
experiments. I observed wide range of epitrochoidal angular oscillations as a 
result of forces between the spining base magnet and the spinning floating 
magnet. I only observed two cases where oscillations have hypotrochoidal 
pattern. From web search such oscillations did not phenomenically reported in 
general except path of particles in traps, I found. Most of recent videos I 
uploaded to YouTube scoped on these oscilations where floating magnet spin is 
locked to base magnet spin.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3KwdWTgl7fisd3h_tK1YLhFeuzkPATNt

RE: [Vo]:Electric Rocket-like Propulsion Patent Application by Banduric

[H Ucar]

http://displacementfieldtechnologies.com/specifications

The website of Richard Banduric show a device producing 0.1 Newton thrust. The 
setup remind me rotating disc experiments of Vladimir Samokhvalov which were 
available on youtube.

Re: [Vo]:Magnetic Wormhole Created

[H Ucar]

It is funny to rename essentially a dipole magnet as a wormhole.

Re: [Vo]:Magnetic levitation experiments

[H Ucar]

I put some new videos on the playlist and added description lines about the 
purpose of these experiments. Still lot of things waiting to test, one is 
forcing the floating magnet spinning in opposite direction using an air jet an 
see if it locks. 'counter gear-wise' coupling was possible on magnets mount on 
bearings. This coupling and the term was first introduced in OC MPMM (Whipmag) 
experiment in 2008.
H Ucar
jjam...@gmail.com Sun, 01 Nov 2015 12:27:36 -0800

I am conducting experiments on keeping pm magnets in air by interacton of a 
rotating magnet driven by small dc motor. Stability is basically provided by 
Mathieu eq. so there would be no 'new 
physics', I think. OTH, it provide new solutions to magnetic levitation by 
achieving stability on six degrees of freedom. I would like to have your 
suggestions on how this work woud be benefitable. Such a stable coupling 
between magnetic dipolar bodies excited me by possibity of similar interactions 
could exist in particle physics. Some of videos are at
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3KwdWTgl7fisd3h_tK1YLhFeuzkPATNt

While the clear shapes of magnets cannot be seen in videos, mostly Nd 10x10 mm  
cylendrical, 10 mm cube and smaller magnets are floated. In some tests spin of 
floating magnet is locked to base magnet by 1/n ratio, providing (stable) 
epicycloidal (epitrochoidal)patterns on floating magnet axis. These can be seen 
in some videos showing a laser beam reflected from magnet flat surface. Base 
magnets are typically oriented in rotating housing almost radially. Motor 
speeds are in 6000-22000 RPM range.
H Ucar

[Vo]: The Periodic Table of Elementary Particles and the Composition of Hadrons

[H Ucar]

The Periodic  Table of  Elementary Particles and the Composition of  Hadrons

http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/047

Originating from O. A. Barut's work, includes tables of accurate calculated 
mass of large number of particles.

Re: [Vo]:Blast from the past -

[H Ucar]

Regarding RAR:
They had modified the machine design around the telescopic arm and weights in 
the course of building. Without more info its a mistery.
H Ucar

Re: [Vo]:Attacking website

[H Ucar]

Beside the motivation, defaming scientists/researchers can have serious 
consequences as it happened in CF.
H Ucar

Lennart Thornros > wrote:


> How can anybody feel good from hurting or diminish another person.
>

[Vo]:Attacking website

[H Ucar]

Soon after my corresponce has been put on the blog 
(https://upitec.wordpress.com) a personal attack refering my name has been 
published on at https://crackpotwatch.wordpress.comI think this is ill practice.
H Ucar

[Vo]:OT: Puzzling appearance of the helix mark

[H Ucar]

The puzzle is how a mark of single turn helix on the wobbling magnet appears as 
double turn helix to eye and to camera under day lighting. Actually this exact 
apperance do not change with horizontal view angle tested about 45 degrees of 
difference. Mark appears as a ghost image with low contast. It also not clear 
how the mark can appears at all while the magnet is spinning. (note the day 
light condition)
First image is the magnet with mark standing on the table and the second is the 
puzzling apperance while the stack of four magnets vibrating in nearly circular 
motion at 120 Hz and spinning at 60 Hz under base magnet spinning at 120 Hz. 
This combination generally produce a single cusped/noded epicyloidal patterns 
shown on some latest videos on playlist.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzJym-YfdQbccW8td1M4aXQ5TjA/view?usp=docslist_api
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzJym-YfdQbcRnJka0tnYVpLZ3c/view?usp=docslist_api


H Ucar