Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-12-08 Thread Steven Krivit
The related SPAWAR work has now been published in two peer-reviewed journals, replicated by SRI and confirmed by RAS. Do the SRI replications include replication of the Forsley's observation of backside tracks being correlated with the frontside tracks? That looked like an *extremely*

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-12-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
By the way, the subject of this thread is intentionally put off. I gather this refers to the notion that Scott Little and Earthtech have deliberately screwed up cold fusion experiments or taken steps not to find excess heat. I think there is no chance they have done anything like that. They

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-12-04 Thread Steven Krivit
Excerpt from: http://newenergytimes.com/tgp/2007TGP/2007TGP-Report.htm * I asked the skeptic whether he could come up with any explanation, besides a nuclear particle emission, for this effect. Not only did he fail to provide a reasonable alternative explanation, but he

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-12-04 Thread Steven Krivit
EarthTech Assessment http://www.newenergytimes.com/news/2007/NET23.htm#earthtech

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-12-04 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Steven Krivit wrote: Excerpt from: http://newenergytimes.com/tgp/2007TGP/2007TGP-Report.htm * I asked the skeptic whether he could come up with any explanation, besides a nuclear particle emission, for this effect. Not only did he fail to provide a reasonable

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-12-04 Thread mixent
In reply to Steven Krivit's message of Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:30:39 -0800: Hi, [snip] EarthTech Assessment http://www.newenergytimes.com/news/2007/NET23.htm#earthtech Perhaps Dennis Letts laser triggered experiment only works around Solar max? (Increased quantities of Solar neutrinos?) If so, then

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-12-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
This document seems to be out of date: http://www.newenergytimes.com/news/2007/NET23.htm#earthtech In this document from 2007, Letts wrote that he could not make laser stimulation work. It stopped working for years. As I noted here, after he wrote this he discovered the problem (we hope)

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-12-04 Thread Esa Ruoho
hi im a ridiculous clueless twat, so here goes: 2008/12/5 Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heavy water is hygroscopic whats hygroscopic?

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-12-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Esa Ruoho wrote: whats hygroscopic? Look it up! This is why God gave us Google! The search term define: hygroscopic returns the following in item 2, appropriately from a roofing contractor: attracting, absorbing and retaining atmospheric moisture

[Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-28 Thread Taylor J. Smith
Hi Jed, contempt not content. Jack Smith Jones Beene wrote: First off - how does anyone benefit, even an oil company (if they were behind EarthTech's funding)? No oil company would ever benefit from maintaining the status quo in the face of a real breakthrough advance, by even a tiny

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-28 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Mike, What technology does BLP possess? I keep reading the hype and the laud, but where's the beef? Show me a single profitable, in service, useful product other than their magical ability to keep somebody else's money juggling in the air while selling tickets to the carnival. Gosh,

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-28 Thread Mike Carrell
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off? In reply to Mike Carrell's message of Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:24:15 -0500: Hi, [snip] One estimate is that a gigajoule

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-28 Thread Mike Carrell
-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off? In reply to Mike Carrell's message of Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:24:15 -0500: Hi, [snip] One estimate is that a gigajoule reactor would require 1 liter of water per second. A one GW reactor

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-28 Thread Terry Blanton
Last year it was close to $1.3M for a Nobel. Terry On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:15 PM, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jones Beene wrote: Terry, I strongly and respectfully disagree. We have heard this kind of sour grapes If Earthtech finds something that is a genuine robust anomaly -

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Mike Carrell's message of Fri, 28 Nov 2008 09:17:57 -0500: Hi, [snip] I was quoting somebody else. 200 eV sounds high. Even if it wedre 100 eV and the water consumption rate were 2 liter/second, that is still low. Sacling down to a small town or village, it doesn't take much water.

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-28 Thread mixent
In reply to R C Macaulay's message of Fri, 28 Nov 2008 08:03:31 -0600: Hi, [snip] Since the recent test at Rowan, I think you need to provide an alternate explanation for the excess energy produced if you want to claim fraud. Howdy Mike, What technology does BLP possess? I keep reading the

[Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-27 Thread Terry Blanton
This was recently (11/23/09) posted on the Hydrino group: As I have pointed out in the past, EarthTech is not to be trusted. Their purpose is to pretend to fail at replication so as to discredit experiments that risk upsetting the status quo:

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-27 Thread Jones Beene
turkey investors being led to the slaughter! Jones From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 6:02:31 AM Subject: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off? This was recently (11/23/09) posted on the Hydrino

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: JR: That is incorrect for several reasons First, oil company presidents, a U.S. Vice President and most recently the Japanese Min. of Science and Technology have told cold fusion researchers that they will not allow funding for cold fusion research because if it works

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-27 Thread Terry Blanton
@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 6:02:31 AM Subject: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off? This was recently (11/23/09) posted on the Hydrino group: As I have pointed out in the past, EarthTech is not to be trusted. Their purpose is to pretend to fail at replication so

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-27 Thread Jones Beene
As I am off for the yearly tryptophan fix, let me just state these seven obvious conclusions, which are closer to fact than opinion. 1) Yes the oil companies have been involved in our government at the highest levels. Doesn't matter. 2) Yes, the oil companies are awash in profits which would

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-27 Thread OrionWorks
This has been an interesting pro/con argument as rcently expressed by Jed and Jones. It's always makes for interesting debate when these two spar with each other on Votex. What personally goes through my mind is whether the petroleum cartel (both companies and respective countries) posses the

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-27 Thread thomas malloy
Jones Beene wrote: Terry, I strongly and respectfully disagree. We have heard this kind of sour grapes If Earthtech finds something that is a genuine robust anomaly - then you can be sure they will immediately try to buy or finance it, and then help to promote it - NOT hide That is the

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-27 Thread John Berry
The number of failures from them had me thinking the same thing, true or not it is a natural conclusion. On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was recently (11/23/09) posted on the Hydrino group: As I have pointed out in the past, EarthTech is not to be

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-27 Thread John Berry
And true or not they should be discredited regardless of the reason for their failed replications. On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 8:33 AM, John Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The number of failures from them had me thinking the same thing, true or not it is a natural conclusion. On Fri, Nov 28,

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-27 Thread Mike Carrell
be applied to aircraft, but I am willing to be pleasantly surprised. Mike Carrell - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off? As I am off for the yearly tryptophan fix

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-27 Thread mixent
In reply to Mike Carrell's message of Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:24:15 -0500: Hi, [snip] One estimate is that a gigajoule reactor would require 1 liter of water per second. A one GW reactor would require 1 L/sec. if the energy release / H atom were about 200 eV. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-27 Thread mixent
In reply to Mike Carrell's message of Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:24:15 -0500: Hi, [snip] Even with favorable assumptions, the rate of implementation of BLP technology may take one to two decades before the carbon-based fuels are replaced. That is comparable with some estimates of the decline of oil

Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?

2008-11-27 Thread Mike Carrell
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off? In reply to Mike Carrell's message of Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:24:15 -0500: Hi, [snip] Even with favorable assumptions