Re: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling

2017-10-30 Thread mixent
In reply to JonesBeene's message of Mon, 30 Oct 2017 15:17:46 -0700: Hi, [snip] > >Nigel > >With water, there is the phenomenon of “proton hopping” even without >cavitation. > >The Hagelstein paper you cite proposes a neutron analog of electron hopping in >semiconductors. This means that there

RE: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling

2017-10-30 Thread JonesBeene
Nigel With water, there is the phenomenon of “proton hopping” even without cavitation. The Hagelstein paper you cite proposes a neutron analog of electron hopping in semiconductors. This means that there are two natural phenomena on which to model neutron hopping. Protons hop from one water

Re: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling

2017-10-30 Thread Nigel Dyer
One of the systems mentioned in Hagelstein's 2015 paper (http://www.currentscience.ac.in/Volumes/108/04/0601.pdf) is the Vysotskii system where what appears to be a coherent collapse of cavitaion bubbles causes a shock wave to travel through a metal plate and generate a very sharp pulse of 1-5k

Re: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling

2017-10-29 Thread mixent
In reply to JonesBeene's message of Sun, 29 Oct 2017 08:19:31 -0700: Hi Jones, [snip] Another possibility is that fast daughter nuclei rip through the lattice creating lots of free electron - ion pairs. As the electrons return to the ions in a strong magnetic field, they will emit cyclotron radiat

RE: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling

2017-10-29 Thread JonesBeene
The Mossbauer effect has been mentioned in many past LERN experiments where gain is seen -- but in a nebulous way. In fact nickel as well as iron has a Mossbauer isotope (61 Ni) Despite the association of heat with gamma radiation of any kind, when a thermal anomaly is seen with iron it is ofte

RE: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling

2017-10-29 Thread JonesBeene
Robin, Yes it is clear that Meyer got the theory wrong - and possibly most of the data. Other features of the experiment are interesting in a historical context. I can find no claimed replication online. The significance of his experiment today is mostly in relationship to the more recent wor

Re: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling

2017-10-29 Thread Brian Ahern
Bob, thanks for the heads up. I will look at the references. From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 11:01 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling Here are some more ideas from Meyer. https

Re: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling

2017-10-28 Thread mixent
In reply to JonesBeene's message of Sat, 28 Oct 2017 07:06:06 -0700: Hi, [snip] > > >Going back to the general principle of stimulating the element iron with waves >of another type and/or frequency, in order to cause actual isotope >transmutation - there is another entry: the Meyer-Mace device w

RE: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling

2017-10-28 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
mo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling What happened to Meyer-Mace? Does anyone know? Another link from 2008-09 regarding the Meyer-Mace device withadditional comments is here: http://overunity.com/4333/meyer-mace-isotopic-nmr-generator/ Bob Cook ___

RE: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling-- additional Meyer ideas from 1976

2017-10-28 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
dynamo. Bob Cook Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: JonesBeene Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 7:06:06 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling Going back to the general princi

RE: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling

2017-10-28 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
7:06:06 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling Going back to the general principle of stimulating the element iron with waves of another type and/or frequency, in order to cause actual isotope transmutation - there is another entry: the Meyer-Mace device which

RE: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling

2017-10-28 Thread JonesBeene
Going back to the general principle of stimulating the element iron with waves of another type and/or frequency, in order to cause actual isotope transmutation - there is another entry: the Meyer-Mace device which received a flurry of attention 20 years ago, was patented and then all but disap

Re: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling

2017-10-27 Thread mixent
In reply to JonesBeene's message of Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:09:37 -0700: Hi, [snip] >Hi Robin > >The neutron “hopping” modality is indeed one way that gain could happen. > >In fact you are probably referring to Hagelstein’s 1993 paper where he >introduces this concept wrt palladium. > >I do not think

RE: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling

2017-10-27 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Hagelstein has been working om a coupling between phonic lattice spin energy states (thermal energy) and nuclear energy states, including (I believe) nuclear spin energy states. sonoluminescence testing has been accomplished in the past at PNL b

RE: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling

2017-10-27 Thread JonesBeene
Hi Robin The neutron “hopping” modality is indeed one way that gain could happen. In fact you are probably referring to Hagelstein’s 1993 paper where he introduces this concept wrt palladium. I do not think he was envisioning iron as the active metal at that time. Perhaps he will be reminded o

Re: [Vo]:Phonon–Nuclear Coupling

2017-10-27 Thread mixent
In reply to JonesBeene's message of Fri, 27 Oct 2017 13:06:29 -0700: Hi, 57Fe+57Fe => 58Fe + 56Fe + 2.399 MeV >Think about this: a process for converting sound into x-rays but not involving >hydrogen or sonoluminescence…. > >The conference papers from ICCM/20-Sendai includes an important but ov